GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 400
| transience | Posted 10/22/2006 1:03:26 AM | message detail |
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you know how we roll, yo - if something goes against our expectations it's SFF! and therefore Squall > Zelda makes sense. but yeah, I'd take Squall over Zelda. --- xyzzy |
| CyberMachine08 | Posted 10/22/2006 1:03:49 AM | message detail |
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Predict: Yoshi 50.57% Dante 49.43% I'll say this will be close. --- I thought lolicon would mean LOL ICON as in Lol internet - XIII is cool *is raytan7585* in the Purg'D Prison (39 days left) |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/22/2006 1:05:07 AM | message detail |
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If Snake was say, doubling Squall right now, would you guys still take him (Squall) to beat Zelda? I'd be tempted to take zelda anyways, although I'd probably refrain. If snake was doubling him though, I'd be lying if I said it wouldn't tempt me more; possibly enough to take her. --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/22/2006 1:05:17 AM | message detail |
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Oh yeah, forgot Mega Man's stuck shoving his arm cannon up Sora's ass in round 3. Yoshi might do better than Squall if he somehow does the unthinkable and win over Dante. The alternative, Viewtiful Dante's hardly a step up from Solid ****. Yeah, Snake would be better off if next round was Sprites. --- Hispanics 1 | Whites 5 Asians 4 | Blacks 3 |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/22/2006 1:06:29 AM | message detail |
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The extent of the overperformance is irrelevant. You honestly believe there could have been potential for that much SFF, or are you just fooling around? --- The Little Mermaid 2-Disc Platinum Edition DVD Coming October 3, 2006 |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/22/2006 1:07:30 AM | message detail |
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I'm really tempted to take Zelda over
Squall now. She was pretty close last year and she seems stronger this
year...but in all likelihood it'd be Squall for this year. I would
definitely take her next year though. --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| LegendarySnake | Posted 10/22/2006 1:07:58 AM | message detail |
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Cloud tripled Squall. Is that going to stop me from taking him over a
lot of characters? No. The extent of the overperformance doesn't change
my mind at all. It's an overperformance. --- Deluded boy. Nobility is forever. The Snake has triumped over the Squallid. |
| Redtooth | Posted 10/22/2006 1:08:17 AM | message detail |
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Wait, this doesn't count as the day yet, right? So are we expecting Squall to win an update or two sometime today? --- Z1mZum>Redtooth Nice list, I counted twenty that would be in my top ten - BlondeAfroHero7 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/22/2006 1:08:49 AM | message detail |
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From Redtooth Posted 10/22/2006 4:08:17 AM #108 Wait, this doesn't count as the day yet, right? So are we expecting Squall to win an update or two sometime today? I hope he does. That would be a moral victory after the beating he took early. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX, FFL2 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2006 1:09:20 AM | message detail |
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Barring something cataclysmic, Squall will take more than a few updates during the day. --- *kills self Commit it to memory. |
| MrPotatamoto | Posted 10/22/2006 1:10:00 AM | message detail |
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You're complaining about me on MBH now? Because you stole my topic? Jesus. --- Pacmaaaaaaaaantis |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/22/2006 1:10:41 AM | message detail |
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Uh, no. Get over yourself, kiddo. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX, FFL2 |
| transience | Posted 10/22/2006 1:11:04 AM | message detail |
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I remember that before Ganon took out Auron, all people could do was
bring up that match against Link and call him a leech. some people
still do this occasionally. anyway, the point is that some people do take quite a bit away from SFF matches while some don't. I wouldn't think much at all about a crazy Snake overperformance unless Squall was up against a similar character such as Tifa. --- xyzzy |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/22/2006 1:11:21 AM | message detail |
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Cloud tripled Squall. Is that going to stop me from taking him over
a lot of characters? No. The extent of the overperformance doesn't
change my mind at all. It's an overperformance. The extent of the overperformance certainly does matter in some cases, especially when it's against a character who it hardly makes much since to be sffing you in the first place. Getting doubled by snake would put squall on yoshi's level of unpredictability in many peoples eyes. You constantly refer to ganon as a leech of links fanabse and little more; what point do you think squalls status of fanbase leech gets put at if he can't avoid a doubling from solid snake? --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| MrPotatamoto | Posted 10/22/2006 1:12:40 AM | message detail |
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Uh, no. Get over yourself, kiddo. Of course. It's clearly just bad timing on your part making it look as though that topic was made because of me. --- Pacmaaaaaaaaantis |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2006 1:13:00 AM | message detail |
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Um, you can share a fanbase with a character without leeching off their
popularity. It's just that for Link/Ganondorf that's pretty much the
ONLY explanation... --- *kills self Commit it to memory. |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/22/2006 1:14:43 AM | message detail |
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You know what sucks? Yuna will probably win as many matches as Snake
and three times as many matches as Squall or Bowser. I need to show
this bracket to my Women's Studies class and be all "You see what equal
rights gets us?!?!!?" ... jk guys --- The Little Mermaid 2-Disc Platinum Edition DVD Coming October 3, 2006 |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/22/2006 1:15:26 AM | message detail |
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Smurf, Soma was the SFF victim to Snake this year. :S Oh, and since a Snake (at his weakest)
got 59.5% on Knuckles, and Squall only got 54% on Knuckles...and factor
in another Snake boost, and what's wrong with this match being legit,
even after accounting for a Knuckles boost? Snake 2K5 on Knuckles 2K4 (adj): Snake w/63.84% (59.54% with Snake 2K4) Squall vs. Knuckles: Squall w/53.8% Add in another possible growth for Snake with SSBB hype, which should cancel out some of Knuckles' gaining. You could argue for Vincent/Dante's strength and what-not, but that's measuring from several matches away. For all we know, Squall vs. Vincent (or something else) could be an anomaly. That all said, I think the key here is that Snake might've gained in popularity by more than given credit for. You know, the parallels in the vote updates between Lara Croft/Chun Li and Kratos/Alucard are strikingly similar...well, sort of. Both had nearly 61% in the early hours, but then fell to 55.5%. Lara got more of the morning vote than Kratos, though. But, I'm just weird that I found that fascinating, and I doubt anyone cares. o_O http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2538 http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2076 --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| transience | Posted 10/22/2006 1:16:26 AM | message detail |
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I don't think you need an explanation for
Link/Ganondorf. it's not like Ganondorf is getting his strength from
anything besides Zelda and SSB - games he shares with Link. it's just
SFF. --- xyzzy |
| SmurfFAQs | Posted 10/22/2006 1:16:57 AM | message detail |
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Knuckles boosted like crazy last year, or was sheltered behind Snake
all the other years. It's not fair to use his 2004 performance as a
judge for Squall. I'd take Playstation SFF before Konami SFF. <_< --- President Of Board 8. (10/14/2006 onwards) |
| SmurfFAQs | Posted 10/22/2006 1:17:43 AM | message detail |
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You're complaining about me on MBH now? Because you stole my topic? Jesus. It's best to ignore him. He gets a kick if you credit his trolling. --- President Of Board 8. (10/14/2006 onwards) |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/22/2006 1:18:01 AM | message detail |
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Um, you can share a fanbase with a character without leeching off
their popularity. It's just that for Link/Ganondorf that's pretty much
the ONLY explanation... What do you call getting tripled by cloud then? >_> No, I'm not being serious about squall being a fanbase leech if such a thing exists, but I don't think ganon is either. I doubt zelda would fare much better then him against link... link is simply an sff monster, and has proven himself to be one countless times. --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| FFDragon | Posted 10/22/2006 1:18:11 AM | message detail |
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SFF or not, the crowning glory of these contests was seeing CATS do better on Link than Ganon did. --- Married to PepsiPlunge June 01, 2005: HERO'S PLUNGE! (Metal Gear Solid 2) |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/22/2006 1:18:11 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, Snake/Soma SFF doesn't make much sense. Their games are totally different and on different systems too. --- Dancing with myself! Oh-oh! Dancing with myself! Oh-oh! And I'll sweat! Sweat! Sweat! Sweat! Sweat! Sweat! SWEAT! SWEAT! |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 10/22/2006 1:19:30 AM | message detail |
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I'm really tempted to take Zelda over Squall now. She was pretty
close last year and she seems stronger this year...but in all
likelihood it'd be Squall for this year. I would definitely take her
next year though. I almost hate thinking about the Zelda characters next year; they're strong enough now that they don't have to fall back on TP to beat these same level characters. Squall/Zelda was always a good matchup, as was Bowser/Zelda, Bowser/Squall, Squall/Ganondorf, and Ganon/Bowser. It just feels like we're underestimating Zelda and Ganon by saying that these close predictions now becomes certainties after TP, (plus it is a bit presumptuous, too). --- Revenge is a dish best served by Z1mZum in the 2k6 Series Guru Contest. |
| LegendarySnake | Posted 10/22/2006 1:19:32 AM | message detail |
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What do you call getting tripled by cloud then? >_> Not leeching. Considering the extent of the SFF beatdowns that Link has put up on some Nintendo characters, Squall held up fairly well, especially for somebody you would expect to have more overlap with Cloud than anyone not from his own game. --- Deluded boy. Nobility is forever. The Snake has triumped over the Squallid. |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/22/2006 1:21:43 AM | message detail |
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All this Ganon SFF talk is reminded me of Link's run in 2004. Man, was elfie ever pissed off. --- The Little Mermaid 2-Disc Platinum Edition DVD Coming October 3, 2006 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/22/2006 1:22:33 AM | message detail |
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Not leeching. Considering the extent of the SFF beatdowns that Link
has put up on some Nintendo characters, Squall held up fairly well,
especially for somebody you would expect to have more overlap with
Cloud than anyone not from his own game. Did you not read the rest of my post? My point is that the entire idea behind leeching is ridiculous. If ganon wasn't a well enough liked character in his own right then he wouldn't be hanging around near the top of the xstats. --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/22/2006 1:24:14 AM | message detail |
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So, guys...do you think Dante could possibly do better than Squall on Snake? --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/22/2006 1:24:33 AM | message detail |
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Ahem, assuming he gets past Yoshi... --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| transience | Posted 10/22/2006 1:24:46 AM | message detail |
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Squall still lost worse to Cloud than Mario did to Bowser.. Cloud is
stronger, but they were probably SFFed the same amount despite Cloud
not appearing in FF8 for one second. that's really not impressive, no
matter how you look at it. --- xyzzy |
| transience | Posted 10/22/2006 1:25:18 AM | message detail |
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Dante does worse than Squall. write it in a book or something. --- xyzzy |
| PlatinumSmurf | Posted 10/22/2006 1:25:53 AM | message detail |
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I loved that time when Mario lost to Bowser! --- Smurf The Cream of Sonic Fanboyism |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/22/2006 1:26:31 AM | message detail |
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That was definitely the greatest upset we've ever seen. :P --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/22/2006 1:27:11 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, I'd be incredibly surprised if Dante did better than Squall. I
think Yoshi would have a good shot at outdoing Squall's score, though,
if he can oust Dante. --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/22/2006 1:28:40 AM | message detail |
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I'll be pleasantly surprised if yoshi can just break 45% on dante. --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| LegendarySnake | Posted 10/22/2006 1:28:52 AM | message detail |
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Cloud is stronger, but they were probably SFFed the same amount
despite Cloud not appearing in FF8 for one second. that's really not
impressive, no matter how you look at it. All things considered, you would expect FFVII and FFVIII to have heavy overlap. There's a reason why FFVIII had such heavy sales that were so frontloaded. And it's hard for Squall to outdo what Bowser did on Mario when Cloud's already projected to beat him that badly BEFORE SFF. --- Deluded boy. Nobility is forever. The Snake has triumped over the Squallid. |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/22/2006 1:29:41 AM | message detail |
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Dante would perform terribly, thereby making Yoshi and Riku look weaker
and Hayabusa look like complete fodder. It's so easy to see his fanbase
jumping ship when his opponent is the Mecca of badassery. --- The Little Mermaid 2-Disc Platinum Edition DVD Coming October 3, 2006 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/22/2006 1:31:13 AM | message detail |
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All things considered, you would expect FFVII and FFVIII to have heavy overlap. Well all things considered, I'd like to think that there is also a "heavy overlap" between ganons and links fanbases... which implies very similar fanbases... which makes what happened to squall no different then what happened to ganon, except less extreme. --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/22/2006 1:33:21 AM | message detail |
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I'll be pleasantly surprised if yoshi can just break 45% on dante. Uhh... I'm pretty sure he'll be able to manage that with ease. Yoshi has legitimate strength, and it's pretty sad how his loss to Mega Man has made anyone forget that. --- The Little Mermaid 2-Disc Platinum Edition DVD Coming October 3, 2006 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/22/2006 1:35:49 AM | message detail |
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He could still get under 45% on dante and have legitimate strength. If
the dante we saw last year was for real, he's well above 30% on bl. I
don't see yoshi being that far up, although I could be wrong. Wouldn't
be the first time. --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/22/2006 1:38:39 AM | message detail |
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The Dante we saw last year is projected to beat Knuckles with less than
51%. Now, I'm not even ready to concede Yoshi's being weaker than
Knuckles, but even if he were, there's no way it'd be by such an amount. --- The Little Mermaid 2-Disc Platinum Edition DVD Coming October 3, 2006 |
| transience | Posted 10/22/2006 1:40:31 AM | message detail |
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I'm with yo here - people have gone from Yoshi/Dante being the most
debated round 2 match to Dante being a near-lock. Yoshi has a good
chance of winning that match and Dante going over 55% seems pretty
unlikely to me. --- xyzzy |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/22/2006 1:41:29 AM | message detail |
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The Dante we saw last year is projected to beat Knuckles with less than 51%. You say that like were talking about a knuckles valued at the same level as the one that couldn't break 40% on snake. Dante got over 46% on vincent. I'd say that's impressive enough to make his value justified, and his match against ryu didn't exactly give me the impression that he's dropped or that he was overrated last year. --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/22/2006 1:42:15 AM | message detail |
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I'm surprised no one brought up potential Devil Division overrated stuff given this match. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX, FFL2 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/22/2006 1:42:16 AM | message detail |
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Or rather he got exactly 46% on vincent. --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/22/2006 1:44:45 AM | message detail |
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I'm surprised no one brought up potential Devil Division overrated stuff given this match. While it's morel ikely that were just seeing plastation square/mgs sff awkwardness for the fourth time, then an overrated devil division I'm surprised it hasn't been brought up as well. Then again, vincent and dante both performed impressively last round, and squall sff'd the hell out of tidus to the point where we had no read on him. --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/22/2006 1:49:20 AM | message detail |
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I'm with yo here - people have gone from Yoshi/Dante being the most
debated round 2 match to Dante being a near-lock. Yoshi has a good
chance of winning that match and Dante going over 55% seems pretty
unlikely to me. I'm just taking yoshi's value given to him by the board with a grain of salt is all. His chances against dante seem almost entirely based on linking him to luigi. I'm not saying he can't be strong or potentially win, but I'm not personally expecting much out of him in the match. --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| transience | Posted 10/22/2006 1:52:30 AM | message detail |
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and Dante's strength is entirely dependent on his match with Vincent. it goes both ways. though you could gauge Yoshi's strength through Bowser as well as Luigi. --- xyzzy |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/22/2006 1:58:19 AM | message detail |
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and Dante's strength is entirely dependent on his match with Vincent. it goes both ways. And his match with ryu hayabusa in round one of course. though you could gauge Yoshi's strength through Bowser as well as Luigi. The problem of course is that we don't know for sure if yoshi has increased with them. Evenif he has, it wouldn't be enoguh to beat 2k5 dante, assuming that value is legit. --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |