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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 399
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 9:55:37 PM | message detail |
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I'd take MM SFFing Nintendo over SFFing Capcom. Mega Man has SFFed exactly one thing from Nintendo. And everyone is SFFing everything these days. --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| Cavalier Lowen | Posted 10/21/2006 9:56:29 PM | message detail |
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And everyone is SFFing everything these days. Calling it right now. Yoshi SFFs Dante en route to a 55/45 win!! --- Z1mZum owned me in the guru contest (by two points!). Damn you Z1mZum! |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/21/2006 9:56:53 PM | message detail |
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Or hell, different fanbase factor, acronym'd to SFF! God damn do I ever hate that term. It basically lost all meaning over the years. SFF is overused a lot of the time, but it seems like more then just a coincedence that whenever playstation square and MGS meet up the match finishes with an extremely screwy result. --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/21/2006 9:56:57 PM | message detail |
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And everyone is SFFing everything these days. I'm hoping one of you genius' in here can find a different term for SFF soon, as SFF is basically a stupid term to use now that it can be used for any match at all. --- - Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII. |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 10/21/2006 9:57:05 PM | message detail |
| I don't buy "Capcom SFF" as intrinsically existing
between two Capcom characters - there's got to be more to it than that
for SFF, I'd wager. I'd be curious to see where Ryu's popularity
largely comes from before making that judgment call, but I have
difficulty seeing it happen. --- This was Ed Bellis. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 9:57:26 PM | message detail |
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Here's a different reason: MMX and SF2 were two of the SNES' biggest games <_< Although to make Mega Man/Snake as dramatic as possible, Dante needs to beat Yoshi and MM needs to struggle with Sora and Ryu TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| LegendarySnake | Posted 10/21/2006 9:58:12 PM | message detail |
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Stats based on the early goings of this match: Solid Snake – 44.90% Samus Aran – 41.69% Squall Leonhart – 35.16% Princess Zelda – 33.71% Tifa Lockhart – 33.57% Aeris Gainsborough – 32.81% Rikku – 26.55% Yuna – 26.10% KOS-MOS – 25.17% Chun-Li – 24.92% Princess Peach – 23.75% Jill Valentine – 23.74% Kairi – 22.15% Lara Croft – 22.15% Claire Redfield – 21.23% Marle – 19.83% Tidus – 19.68% Sheena Fujibayashi – 18.03% Amy Rose – 17.40% The Boss – 17.09% Ada Wong – 16.86% Soma Cruz – 16.03% Ivy Valentine – 15.99% Kasumi – 15.58% Nidoran F – 15.13% Terra Branford – 13.85% Celes Chere – 13.30% Lenneth Valkyrie – 13.28% Joanna Dark – 11.46% Sarah Kerrigan – 11.45% Roll – 10.81% Alyx Vance – 9.94% Carmen Sandiego – 9.38% Cortana – 9.11% Jade – 8.13% Princess Daisy – 8.03% Exactly. --- Deluded boy. Nobility is forever. The Snake has triumped over the Squallid. |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 9:58:17 PM | message detail |
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Snake is really interesting.. he acts like a Square character and he's
becoming a Nintendo character. it's like Mario RPG on steroids! --- xyzzy |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/21/2006 9:58:24 PM | message detail |
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SFF is overused a lot of the time, but it seems like more then just
a coincedence that whenever playstation square and MGS meet up the
match finishes with an extremely screwy result. When I said that, I wasn't only referring to this match here. I was thinking of every match that didn't have the same fanbase, yet there was SFF in the match (MM/Yoshi, MM/Link). --- - Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII. |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 9:59:13 PM | message detail |
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I'm hoping one of you genius' in here can find a different term for
SFF soon, as SFF is basically a stupid term to use now that it can be
used for any match at all. SFF at this point is just attached to any character that significantly overperforms on another character, regardless of actual relation to that character. Yuna/Joanna? Hardcore SFF. Zelda/Terra? Insane SNES SFF. Squall/Snake? Awesome MGS/FFVII SFF! --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 10/21/2006 9:59:58 PM | message detail |
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When I said that, I wasn't only referring to this match here. I was
thinking of every match that didn't have the same fanbase, yet there
was SFF in the match (MM/Yoshi, MM/Link). But it makes sense to me that Mega Man shares a large fanbase with Nintendo characters, since it's likely that most of is popularity on this site from the NES and SNES. --- This was Ed Bellis. |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/21/2006 10:00:58 PM | message detail |
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Link is going to kill Cloud so who cares anyway --- The Little Mermaid 2-Disc Platinum Edition DVD Coming October 3, 2006 |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 10:01:38 PM | message detail |
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Link is going to kill Cloud so who cares anyway Hero SFF, no doubt~! --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/21/2006 10:01:46 PM | message detail |
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SFF - some frivolous factor ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX, FFL2 |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/21/2006 10:02:07 PM | message detail |
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SFF at this point is just attached to any character that
significantly overperforms on another character, regardless of actual
relation to that character. Yuna/Joanna? Hardcore SFF. Zelda/Terra? Insane SNES SFF. Squall/Snake? Awesome MGS/FFVII SFF! That's why I want SFF changed into something that actually makes sense! And no, I don't have ideas because I'm dead ****ing tired right now. That's why I asked one of you to do it... --- - Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 10:03:45 PM | message detail |
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Solid Snake – 44.90% Samus Aran – 41.69% And all was right with the world <_< Right now, my main gripe with an SFF labelled match is Tifa/Vyse. That was just Vyse falling off the map. TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 10/21/2006 10:03:48 PM | message detail |
| The fact that SFF gets bandied about as an
explanation for any match that doesn't follow trends isn't the
acronym's fault. I think it works with most of the matches that can be
logically ascribed to it, which does not include Yuna/Joanna or Zelda/Terra. That's OBOSBF (Overperformance Based On ****ty Bracket Factor)! --- This was Ed Bellis. |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/21/2006 10:05:23 PM | message detail |
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The fact that SFF gets bandied about as an explanation for any match that doesn't follow trends isn't the acronym's fault. Then why not create a new acronym for those matches? Just because the result is similar to SFF, it should not be labeled something it isn't. --- - Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII. |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/21/2006 10:06:01 PM | message detail |
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Right now, my main gripe with an SFF labelled match is Tifa/Vyse. That was just Vyse falling off the map. Why would vyse fall right off the map so far after his last release? Why would he show no change at all in 2k4 just to fall so far in 2k5? It makes no sense at all, and your continual insistence that he simply fell off the map at such a random time doesn't make it true. --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 10/21/2006 10:06:22 PM | message detail |
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But that's not the label's fault - it's people misusing the label.
People assume things that aren't true about the xstats; that doesn't
mean we should relabel or change them. --- This was Ed Bellis. |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 10:06:34 PM | message detail |
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but it is the same fanbase. it's not Same Company Factor or something like that. bah, this is silly to even argue over. --- xyzzy |
| MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/21/2006 10:07:31 PM | message detail |
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Another match, another opportunity to discuss the inevitable Female Villain Contest. And another opportunity to remind people to nominate Nidorina next year. It's the only logical step to take. --- Hispanics 1 | Whites 5 Asians 4 | Blacks 3 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 10:08:14 PM | message detail |
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Yuna and Zelda just randomly overperformed. Either that or they're both locks to beat Samus <_< TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 10/21/2006 10:08:35 PM | message detail |
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I reread that bunk about the Female Villain Contest and I cannot
believe such a hilariously inane topic arose without my presence. =P --- This was Ed Bellis. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/21/2006 10:09:00 PM | message detail |
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Just to talk about Leon's stats for a second... ...Marle > Tidus? Nobody'll take that upset, Tidus will win that, but does anybody think something fishy percentage-wise would happen in a Marle/Tidus match? --- http://wemajor12.myrockinprofile.com/ Next celebrity I hope to out-rank: Adam Sandler (#1) |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/21/2006 10:09:15 PM | message detail |
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But that's not the label's fault - it's people misusing the label.
People assume things that aren't true about the xstats; that doesn't
mean we should relabel or change them. Then why not create a new acronym for those matches! Not the Link/Ganondorf (which is obvious SFF), but the Snake/Squall or the Link/Mega Man (which do not have the same fanbase). We can keep the term SFF, but we should make a new term for those other matches that are not SFF, but the results are similar to SFF. --- - Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 10:09:57 PM | message detail |
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From MegaReincarnate Posted 10/22/2006 1:07:31 AM Another match, another opportunity to discuss the inevitable Female Villain Contest. And another opportunity to remind people to nominate Nidorina next year. It's the only logical step to take. But what are we to nominate the year after the year after next year? Actually, by then they'll have an additional 24 evolutions in Pokemon Platinum/Plutonium which has a paltry 1500 pokemon. TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 10/21/2006 10:10:02 PM | message detail |
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Or we could just recognize SFF as a blanket term... --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 10:10:07 PM | message detail |
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Either that or they're both locks to beat Samus Just wait until Zelda lays the smacketh downeth. --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/21/2006 10:10:33 PM | message detail |
| There's just one problem soul: without having
overlapping fanbases sff can't occur since that's the entire
explanation behind it. --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/21/2006 10:10:36 PM | message detail |
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Hey guys, I think Sub-Zero SFFed Master Chief due to both being in
violent games. And Gordon Freeman SFFed Phoenix Wright since they're
both fodder. lol Frog > Squall > Magus stats lol Ansem > Ganondorf stats --- Hispanics 1 | Whites 5 Asians 4 | Blacks 3 |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 10/21/2006 10:11:36 PM | message detail |
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but the Snake/Squall or the Link/Mega Man (which do not have the same fanbase). But they do have the same - ..you just want me to rip my hair out and start screaming "Alyx > Lara!!!", don't you? >_> --- This was Ed Bellis. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 10:11:51 PM | message detail |
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Soul, why don't Snake or Squall have the same fanbase? Same goes for Link/Mega Man. MGS and PS1 FFs were the must owns for the Playstation, and people tend to agree that FF > MGS, but Snake > FF characters. Same goes for Mega Man, who's a staple on Nintendo consoles and probably gets most of his fans from his SNES/NES games. TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 10/21/2006 10:11:52 PM | message detail |
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I can't wait for Zelda/Samus; it could finally be the match where she
definitely proves she's stronger than Ganondorf, and has much more
reliable strength. I'll never get over Link slaughtering Ganon the way
he did, part of me is happier believing Zelda's fanbase wouldn't
completely collapse behind her. --- Revenge is a dish best served by Z1mZum in the 2k6 Series Guru Contest. |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/21/2006 10:12:08 PM | message detail |
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There's just one problem soul: without having overlapping fanbases
sff can't occur since that's the entire explanation behind it. Then why are people so quick to say that this match is SFF, if the fanbases are completely different and have no reason to interlap at all. --- - Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII. |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/21/2006 10:12:18 PM | message detail |
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Question mark. --- - Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/21/2006 10:12:21 PM | message detail |
| Boo-****ing-who. Who cares what it's called? Call
it SFF, call it Ed Bellis' butt looks big in those jeans factor, it
doesn't matter. The only thing that matter is whether or not a
character significantly deviates how they would otherwise do in most
situations. I don't care if you call Zelda/Terra SFF or not, the point
is Zelda ain't that strong, and Terra ain't that weak. I don't give a
flying **** what label it's given, I care about what happened in the
match, and having an easy way of noting it, so everyone understands
what you're talking about. Nothing riles me up like the anti-SFF crowd. --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/21/2006 10:12:35 PM | message detail |
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I have a better idea; how about instead of mocking playstation
square/mgs and mm/ninty sff you guys actually come up with an
explanation outside of sff for the obviously existing general
screwyness that occurs in matches involving those pairs? --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 10:12:51 PM | message detail |
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lol Frog > Squall > Magus stats I see nothing wrong with this inequality!! TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 10:13:09 PM | message detail |
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MGS and FF fanbases are completely different? hey Leon, KH, others - how high up are Squall and Snake on your favourite character lists? --- xyzzy |
| Rodri316 | Posted 10/21/2006 10:13:12 PM | message detail |
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Why again was Squall supposed to make up a 30% differential from their last encounter? --- Character Battle V Score: 46/48 Current Prediction: Solid Snake vs. Squall Leonhart |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/21/2006 10:13:42 PM | message detail |
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Ignore the missing words, like I said, I'm not in the right state of mind right now. (But my post is still correct!) --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 10/21/2006 10:13:46 PM | message detail |
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Blue just isn't my color, that's all! =( --- This was Ed Bellis. |
| MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/21/2006 10:14:00 PM | message detail |
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..you just want me to rip my hair out and start screaming "Alyx > Lara!!!", don't you? >_> Lara rSFFed Alyx. Alyx would've doubled Jill and Peach but the huge "people who love the letters L and A" fanbase all prefered Lara since she had two A's while Alyx only had one. --- Hispanics 1 | Whites 5 Asians 4 | Blacks 3 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 10:14:24 PM | message detail |
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From FastFalcon05 Posted 10/22/2006 1:11:52 AM I can't wait for Zelda/Samus; it could finally be the match where she definitely proves she's stronger than Ganondorf, and has much more reliable strength. I'll never get over Link slaughtering Ganon the way he did, part of me is happier believing Zelda's fanbase wouldn't completely collapse behind her. I'll just assume you're referring to Zelda as in the Zelda games, and not the Princess, because that is the only logical interpretation. TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/21/2006 10:14:34 PM | message detail |
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hey Leon, KH, others - how high up are Squall and Snake on your favourite character lists? Snake > Prince > Squall = Dante --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/21/2006 10:15:27 PM | message detail |
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Soul, why don't Snake or Squall have the same fanbase? Same goes for Link/Mega Man. A slow paced, turn-based RPG, Vs. a faster paced, third person stealth game. Please explain to me how those fans are similar enough to cause this much SFF in this match. You can make a case for Link/MM, but again, it's a platformer Vs. an action adventure game. Fanbases are somewhat different... but they're not as different as the fanbases from MGS and FF though. --- - Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII. |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 10:15:30 PM | message detail |
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hey Leon, KH, others - how high up are Squall and Snake on your favourite character lists? Both close to each other with a pretty good favoring to Snake. --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 10:15:43 PM | message detail |
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1. Solid Snake 10. Squall Leonhart --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 10:16:22 PM | message detail |
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From what I've played of MGS: Zero > Mario > Squall > Snake > Link TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |