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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 399
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/21/2006 9:24:42 PM | message detail |
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(2k5 xstats). This would be the reason for Snake/Squall SFF Soul. Snake is not that close to Mario (or above him if Squall doesn't bring it down). Shadow rSFFed Mario! Sonic > Mario for SC2K6! One thing that pisses me off about this series of topics is how quick most regulars point to a weird match and label it "SFF" and move on. The amount of SFF in this match is equal to the amount in Bowser/Leon or Ryu/Kratos. --- - Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 9:25:28 PM | message detail |
| MM's not likely going to be increasing, but he
ain't decreasing either in all probability. Someone's going to need a
big boost to catch up with him...and the Link Leech ain't the cat to do
it. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 10/21/2006 9:25:55 PM | message detail |
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Just to screw with us, Gordon Freeman will be the one to break the N9. Which, of course, will make both Phoenix Wright and Tingle look like upper midcarders in the process! THIS WAS HIS PLAN ALL ALONG, GUYS --- This was Ed Bellis. |
| Redtooth | Posted 10/21/2006 9:26:03 PM | message detail |
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Now on that note, MEGA MAN needs to be the one that people start
picking on. barring SSBB, I can't ever see him increasing again. I'm telling you, GF is doing it this year. Just watch our running joke lash back at us. --- Z1mZum>Redtooth Nice list, I counted twenty that would be in my top ten - BlondeAfroHero7 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/21/2006 9:26:19 PM | message detail |
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It's desperation to see the Noble Nine break. While the noble nine has held together through these years, and this was a bad match to pick to see it fall, it has come close to falling before. I don't think that the lower end noble niners should be seen as invincible outside other noble niners since they've shown signs of being able to lose to non-noble niners before. --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 10/21/2006 9:26:20 PM | message detail |
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Though if Dante gets Viewtiful Dante against Snake...good gravy. Wow, the one time Snake wouldn't get overperformed on in the sprite round! The amount of SFF in this match is equal to the amount in Bowser/Leon or Ryu/Kratos. Sure, if you think Snake's taking the main bracket (this includes Samus). --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. October 22 - Internal war rages between the Squallid and the Snake |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 9:26:27 PM | message detail |
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The amount of SFF in this match is equal to the amount in Bowser/Leon or Ryu/Kratos. We've discussed SFF between these two for a while now. This isn't some 'out of the blue' theory. Squall is simply not this weak, Snake is (sadly) not this strong. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 9:26:48 PM | message detail |
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Oh, Mr. Perfect(ly crazy) has a dead read on the KH2 boost now. And
apparently it's worth noticably less than AC and DoC. Why don't I
believe that? Oh yeah, 2k3. You mean the 2003 where there was a Square shift? Squall's role was likely not what boosted him to that level. We are seeing no such Square influx this year nor are we seeing any monstrous KH2 boost in effect. It's certainly there, but unless you think that Squall is going to be indirectly stronger, or actually beat, Vincent this year, then there's no reason to doubt Ganon beating him after TP or even beforehand. Squall is not worlds ahead of every other non-Noble Nine character. --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| meche313 | Posted 10/21/2006 9:26:58 PM | message detail |
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I think someone is forgetting how FFVII has completely crushed MGS in
the past and the fact that both Solid Snake and Squall are from PS1
games. --- You're in a clique with Vlado and Inviso. That's the nerdy group in the school cafeteria that sits away from everybody else gossiping about the cool kids in whispers, except instead of whispers, it's AIM, and instead of the school cafeteria, it's the board 8 community. -- Shake |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 10/21/2006 9:26:58 PM | message detail |
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Now on that note, MEGA MAN needs to be the one that people start
picking on. barring SSBB, I can't ever see him increasing again. If anything, the N9 member I consistently expect to see decreasing is Crono. Weird how that works out. >_> --- This was Ed Bellis. |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 9:27:51 PM | message detail |
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undeniable proof that Zelda > Ganondorf! and that Snake > Mega Man! ...yeah, I'm not taking a thing away from this. I do think this is a whole different Snake that we have seen before - I refuse to believe Soma is that weak. I don't like having Mega Man > Snake here. at all. ..but having seen Snake/Sora and Snake/Squall before, this isn't really surprising at all. I wanted to go Snake with 60% here but didn't have the balls to stick to such a bold prediction. --- xyzzy |
| Cavalier Lowen | Posted 10/21/2006 9:28:31 PM | message detail |
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MM>CRONO AND SONIC! New Sonic the Hedgehog will probably be a huge flop like the other 3D Sonic games and Crono will never have an opportunity to increase again. MM on the other hand has new games every year, constantly keeping his value afloat, plus I say it's far more likely for him to be in SSBB than Sonic. --- Z1mZum owned me in the guru contest (by two points!). Damn you Z1mZum! |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 9:28:34 PM | message detail |
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and the Link Leech ain't the cat to do it. There's always the character named after the series! She's not taking on her traditional role in TP after all !! --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/21/2006 9:28:46 PM | message detail |
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Someone forgot I was one of the main proponents of Snake/Squall SFF. It's in my analysis! Or someone got incredibly high before and is still coming down! Either way, I just said that because it lessens the validity of KHF existing, not because of anything you might have said. I take Noble Nine + Ganon & Vincent > Squall. Aside from that Squall takes everyone else down. --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 9:28:46 PM | message detail |
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Perhaps ONE of my upsets will pay off for me. At least Snake is looking all right. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 9:28:48 PM | message detail |
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Now on that note, MEGA MAN needs to be the one that people start
picking on. barring SSBB, I can't ever see him increasing again. Now that you said that, MM is going to make an SSB:B appearance and have a rediculously successful series of FPS-like games on the Wii >_> TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 10/21/2006 9:29:49 PM | message detail |
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Perhaps ONE of my upsets will pay off for me. Chun Li over Yuna is still happening! ...somehow! --- This was Ed Bellis. |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/21/2006 9:29:50 PM | message detail |
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Sure, if you think Snake's taking the main bracket (this includes Samus). Snake has definitely increased from last year. It is really obvious to see that. He made Soma look like fodder, has the most casuals backing him to win the contest, had reasons to actually increase, had the first overall seed in the contest... what more do you need to see in order to realize that this isn't the same Snake we've seen before? Sure, Squall isn't getting what he's expected to get, but come on now. There is no freaking way this is SFF. --- - Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 9:30:52 PM | message detail |
| At the rate this round is going, all the winners
of the top halves of their division are going to be the stars of the
round, and all the winners of the bottom halves are going to be the
turds >_> TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/21/2006 9:30:57 PM | message detail |
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"You mean the 2003 where there was a Square shift?" I'll give you 5 seconds to figure out what caused it before I pimp slap yo' azz. Kingdom Hearts. KH2 might not have the same effect, but you damn well better not be trying to say it's not going to have a noticable one that should damn near keep Squall's growth even with Vincent's. --- If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot. If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 9:31:22 PM | message detail |
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Why won't anyone believe in the MGS/FF SFF? --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 10/21/2006 9:31:23 PM | message detail |
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Soul, there are like five or so matches floating around that clearly
indicate a strong fanbase overlap between Final Fantasy and Metal Gear.
Snake's boosted, sure, but why is it out of the realm of possibility
that this is SFF? There's ample evidence for it to be. --- This was Ed Bellis. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 9:31:23 PM | message detail |
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Soma being fodder surprises you? TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/21/2006 9:31:25 PM | message detail |
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Sure, Squall isn't getting what he's expected to get, but come on now. There is no freaking way this is SFF. Yeah, it's not like this is the 4th time we've seen something weird involving MGS and FF. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 4: #21 Doctor Zoidberg (3-0) |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 9:31:39 PM | message detail |
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Sure, Squall isn't getting what he's expected to get, but come on now. There is no freaking way this is SFF. You know that Samus is projected to get 57.83% on Squall, right? --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/21/2006 9:32:45 PM | message detail |
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Clearly Snake is stronger than Mario for no reason AND KH2 actually hurt Squall. I'm sure HM is banking on that second part with his "Squall can't beat Ganon" ********. --- If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot. If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/21/2006 9:32:54 PM | message detail |
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You know... after Lara/Alyx I told Soul to stop talking stats jokingly, but now I mean it. --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/21/2006 9:32:55 PM | message detail |
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A Mega Man FPS for the Wii would kick ass. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX |
| Super Luigi | Posted 10/21/2006 9:33:00 PM | message detail |
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lol "projections" --- Currently playing : Splinter Cell DA(Xbox 360), NBA 2K7(Xbox 360), NHL 07(Xbox 360). XBL GT - SuPeR MiKe 86 |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 9:33:21 PM | message detail |
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KH2 might not have the same effect, but you damn well better not be
trying to say it's not going to have a noticable one that should damn
near keep Squall's growth even with Vincent's. Good thing we have zero indication that it will or will not. Squall is going to increase, sure, but he's not far above Ganon. At all. Thinking he is is just stupid. --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 10/21/2006 9:33:24 PM | message detail |
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A Mega Man FPS for the Wii would kick ass. I WANT IT RIGHT NOW --- This was Ed Bellis. |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/21/2006 9:33:37 PM | message detail |
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I think someone is forgetting how FFVII has completely crushed MGS
in the past and the fact that both Solid Snake and Squall are from PS1
games. FF7, being this site's main game and the reason why this site still exists, would SFF any game that has any shot of being SFFed by it, simply because it's ranked #1 by so many people here. FF7 =/= it's characters. And saying that Snake and Squall having SFF in a match because they are on the same console is like saying Mario and Crono will have SFF because they are both on SNES. --- - Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII. |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 9:34:24 PM | message detail |
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I'm sure HM is banking on that second part with his "Squall can't beat Ganon" ********. ...I didn't say Squall couldn't beat Ganon. I say he wouldn't, which I don't think he would. It's not like he's incapable of doing such a thing. The match would be extremely close one way or another. --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 9:34:32 PM | message detail |
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From Karma Hunter Posted 10/22/2006 12:31:22 AM Why won't anyone believe in the MGS/FF SFF? I didn't because all those other matches had other explanations (save FF7/MGS oddly enough <_<). Liquid could have been overrated to hell by Frog fishyness, and Snake/Sora could have been the fact that for the first time in his career, Snake had an overwhelming pic advantage as opposed to an overwhelming pic disadvantage. I was always a bit skeptical on MGS/FF SFF, but this match has convinced me. This also seems to indicate that Squall gets a good margin of his strength from FF8 as opposed to KH being the only thing making him near-elite. I'd like to see FF8 in the next games contest >_> TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/21/2006 9:34:42 PM | message detail |
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"Why won't anyone believe in the MGS/FF SFF?" I believe. And I have believed for some time. I find it increadible that there are people who don't believe after seeing this. Playstation SFF is real. Hell, even Crash showed that by increasing in 2k3 without having a new game to his credit. --- If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot. If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 9:35:51 PM | message detail |
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From UltimaterializerX Posted 10/22/2006 12:32:55 AM A Mega Man FPS for the Wii would kick ass. ~*ST*~ I thought of it the last time I read one of your anti-MM games rants. It could have Metroidish gameplay and kick serious ass! TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 10/21/2006 9:36:10 PM | message detail |
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And saying that Snake and Squall having SFF in a match because they
are on the same console is like saying Mario and Crono will have SFF
because they are both on SNES. That would only be true if Mario's main strength was derived solely from the SNES. Give me a match between Crono and Terra and I'd expect SFF, and not just because they're similar in terms of genre/company. --- This was Ed Bellis. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/21/2006 9:36:48 PM | message detail |
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Again...we've seen both Solid/Squall in 2k2 followed by Squall's jump
in 2k3 (which was behind Link/Samus, no less), FF7/MGS featured MGS
looking to be well below MGS2, Sephiroth/Liquid had Liquid look worse
than EVERY projection we had availible and was noticably worse as well,
Solid/Sora showed Sora collapsing though the pic may have made that
exaggerated, MGS's performance in the Top Ten showed FF7/MGS had to
have something screwy, and now today says Squall isn't looking good... ...consider how well Squall looked in 2k3, 2k4, and 2k5, then compare them to how well Squall looked in 2k2 and 2k6, the two years he faced Solid Snake. There is bound to be something hay-wire here. --- http://wemajor12.myrockinprofile.com/ Next celebrity I hope to out-rank: Adam Sandler (#1) |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 9:37:00 PM | message detail |
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FF7, being this site's main game and the reason why this site still
exists, would SFF any game that has any shot of being SFFed by it,
simply because it's ranked #1 by so many people here. FF7 =/= it's
characters. You mean like how it destroyed Chrono Trigger due to them both being Square RPGs? o wate TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/21/2006 9:37:04 PM | message detail |
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Holy crap, Snake is so beating Mega Man. --- CB5 Points: 43/46, Current Oracle placement: 29/165 Now playing: Okami |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/21/2006 9:37:10 PM | message detail |
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I didn't because all those other matches had other explanations
(save FF7/MGS oddly enough <_<). Liquid could have been overrated
to hell by Frog fishyness, and Snake/Sora could have been the fact that
for the first time in his career, Snake had an overwhelming pic
advantage as opposed to an overwhelming pic disadvantage. Your excuses are a lot more farfetched than simple SFF. You need about 3 different things to all align to cause weird overperformances and underperformances, or you can just accept the fact that FF and MG have a significant fanbase overlap. KHF NEVER HAPPENED. Believe. --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/21/2006 9:37:20 PM | message detail |
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So, Squall or Zelda? --- The Little Mermaid 2-Disc Platinum Edition DVD Coming October 3, 2006 |
| LegendarySnake | Posted 10/21/2006 9:37:35 PM | message detail |
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You've already seen what Crono did to Kefka. Liquid could have been overrated by Frog fishyness Then you'd have to believe that Frog overperformed on Samus because Liquid looks weaker, no matter what. This also seems to indicate that Squall gets a good margin of his strength from FF8 as opposed to KH being the only thing making him near-elite This should have been fairly obvious. --- Deluded boy. Nobility is forever. The Snake has triumped over the Squallid. |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 9:37:36 PM | message detail |
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EC and KHF is like Smurf and Sonic at this point. --- xyzzy |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/21/2006 9:38:08 PM | message detail |
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Soul, there are like five or so matches floating around that clearly
indicate a strong fanbase overlap between Final Fantasy and Metal Gear.
Snake's boosted, sure, but why is it out of the realm of possibility
that this is SFF? There's ample evidence for it to be. Take out the FF7/MGS match and the FF/MGS series match* (as games/series should be no indication of the character's strength or SFF abilities). Can you please tell me how the fans of a third person stealth game can interlap with fans of a turn-based RPG game? I mean, the genres are like the complete opposite of the spectrum here. Whatever that goes on in this match is not SFF, as both these character's fanbases have NOTHING in common at all. *Don't remember if it happened or not.... --- - Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/21/2006 9:38:10 PM | message detail |
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"he's not far above Ganon" Far? Bro, when I ever say "far"? Winning is winning, even if it's by some stupidly low margin like 7 votes. All I know is, anyone who'd blindly take Ganon before TP comes out would get to hear me laugh at them for days on end. That match would be damn close, Squall just has the definitive edge for a couple weeks. --- If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot. If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/21/2006 9:38:17 PM | message detail |
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Except I'm right !! --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/21/2006 9:38:40 PM | message detail |
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So, Squall or Zelda? Squall... relatively comfortably. --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 9:38:59 PM | message detail |
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So, Squall or Zelda? This year? Squall. Wait, I've already made my stance clear on this LOL looks like I'm wasting another post. =( --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| LegendarySnake | Posted 10/21/2006 9:39:04 PM | message detail |
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So, Squall or Zelda? Give me Squall every time. --- Deluded boy. Nobility is forever. The Snake has triumped over the Squallid. |