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| Draco1214 | Posted 10/21/2006 10:16:37 PM | message detail |
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hey Leon, KH, others - how high up are Squall and Snake on your favourite character lists? 1) Solid Snake 27) Squall Leonhart Something like that. --- Character Battle V Score - 43/48 points Current Prediction - Solid Snake vs. Squall Leonhart |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 10:17:35 PM | message detail |
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A slow paced, turn-based RPG, Vs. a faster paced, third person
stealth game. Please explain to me how those fans are similar enough to
cause this much SFF in this match. Aside from the ownership rate amongst PS1 owners, both games are heavily story-centered, appealing to an RPGish fanbase. m i winnar? TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 10:17:38 PM | message detail |
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Soul, let me get this straight - do you seriously think nothing Weird happened in that Snake/Sora match? --- xyzzy |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/21/2006 10:18:15 PM | message detail |
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I'll make that question a bit easier... Soul, let me get this straight - do you seriously think? --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 10:18:30 PM | message detail |
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And let me just say that Snake is fast becoming my favourite character contest-wise. Move over Frog! TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/21/2006 10:18:41 PM | message detail |
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As for this SFF-issue...nah, SFF works fine. I think it's gettin'
thrown about more because so many characters are impressing this year,
plus now there's a new system that's been released since last year AND
we have the best vote-totals we've ever consistantly had, so that has
to play some kind of effect. Granted, I figured the 360 coming out
would have helped Joanna out more than it did, heh, but it still had to
do some kind of change-up. The upcoming systems-hype may play an effect
too for characters like Solid Snake, so that may change things too... ...but we don't need a new similar-but-not-exactly-SFF term. It's just that SFF doesn't always mean the shared fanbase is an easier traditional fanbase to figure out (like Square or Nintendo, for example). We should just know that, though MGS and FF/KH don't have alot in common, they're both liked by many more of the same fans than many other comparisons we could make...and that should be enough to dignify calling it SFF, no matter how weird it feels. --- http://wemajor12.myrockinprofile.com/ Next celebrity I hope to out-rank: Adam Sandler (#1) |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 10:18:58 PM | message detail |
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Although to be exact... 4.) Solid Snake 18.) Squall Leonhart It's quite funny how there's a good number of people in here that like both of them, but have a preference to Snake! No SFF here, folks! --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 10:19:19 PM | message detail |
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Damn guys chill out let's just bask in Snake's ownage for a while. ...aw yeah... --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/21/2006 10:19:44 PM | message detail |
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I have a better idea; how about instead of mocking playstation
square/mgs and mm/ninty sff you guys actually come up with an
explanation outside of sff for the obviously existing general
screwyness that occurs in matches involving those pairs? Fluctuations in vote totals and popularity, voting ceilings, releases, days/seasons of matches, significant gaming news, etc. There's a huge variety of possibilities, and I doubt we'd ever find them all. It's clearly just not one factor. I do think many matches result with SFF, though, so I don't know why I'm trying to anyway. Being Devil's Advocate or something. Mario would beat Cloud again if they ever fought again due to sharing the letter O. Mario having it on the end steals all of Cloud's "O voters" fanbase by having his O on the end. Mario would also win the "blue pants" fanbase, thus SFFing Cloud by 70 billion %. --- Hispanics 1 | Whites 5 Asians 4 | Blacks 3 |
| Redtooth | Posted 10/21/2006 10:19:58 PM | message detail |
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Let me further improve on the question: Soul, think about this one - are you seriously straight? --- Z1mZum>Redtooth Nice list, I counted twenty that would be in my top ten - BlondeAfroHero7 |
| The Real Truth | Posted 10/21/2006 10:20:10 PM | message detail |
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Squall > Everyone. I like Snake a lot though. --- Nominate Barret Wallace for SC2k7, you know you want to |
| Kyle Bowen | Posted 10/21/2006 10:20:26 PM | message detail |
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2. Squall Leonhard 23. Solid Snake KB --- I admit, Kyle Bowen's Social Bar and Lounge was the worst series of topics ever. Also, I hate Shadow Hearts.-10/21-10/28 |
| The Real Truth | Posted 10/21/2006 10:22:18 PM | message detail |
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I thought you hated Snake Kyle? Oh btw, 1. Squall 2. Dante 3. Liquid Snake I haven't thought out a solid list of who I like other than these 3. --- Nominate Barret Wallace for SC2k7, you know you want to |
| MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/21/2006 10:22:23 PM | message detail |
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There's only one way to solve all of this: Create a new term. Thus I coin PFF: Pathetic Fodder Factor. Characters overperform against fodder because the fodder's too ****ing weak to draw that many votes. See 90% of the Female Bracket for reference of PFF. --- Hispanics 1 | Whites 5 Asians 4 | Blacks 3 |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/21/2006 10:22:31 PM | message detail |
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Soul, let me get this straight - do you seriously think nothing Weird happened in that Snake/Sora match? Something weird did happen in that match. Something weird happened in a lot of matches. But I'm sure as hell not going to call Mario > Shadow SFF, nor am I going to call Snake > Squall SFF. --- - Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 10:23:25 PM | message detail |
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So today's result is due to Squall being pathetic fodder who couldn't possibly hope to match Snake's vote drawing abilities? lol TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/21/2006 10:23:27 PM | message detail |
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As for positioning on my favorites list, Squall would probably bein the mid 3000's on my list, and Snake in the high 8000's. --- Hispanics 1 | Whites 5 Asians 4 | Blacks 3 |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/21/2006 10:23:34 PM | message detail |
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But yeah, I'm done with this argument since I'm too tired to actually continue it. --- - Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII. |
| Cavalier Lowen | Posted 10/21/2006 10:23:42 PM | message detail |
| Snake and Squall don't even make my top 100, I
don't get the appeal for either of them at all. "teh badass" doesn't
cut it for me. --- Z1mZum owned me in the guru contest (by two points!). Damn you Z1mZum! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/21/2006 10:23:47 PM | message detail |
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Then call it whatever, but we're talking about the same thing. It's
just that you're not comfortable saying there may be a shared fanbase. --- http://wemajor12.myrockinprofile.com/ Next celebrity I hope to out-rank: Adam Sandler (#1) |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 10:23:49 PM | message detail |
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okay, then we're good. you can call it whatever the hell you want, I
don't really care and no one else does either. people use the SFF
blanket term since everyone knows what it means. now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go argue about something more interesting! --- xyzzy |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 10:24:00 PM | message detail |
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Wait.... who was calling Mario > Shadow SFF? TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 10:24:08 PM | message detail |
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But I'm sure as hell not going to call Mario > Shadow SFF Mario/Shadow wasn't SFF, it was Shadow being a Mario proxy. Also, some matches are just weird. Snake/Frog and Samus/Lara are good examples of both. But there is REASON for this match to be SFF...how many FF characters does Snake have to overperform on before you take it into consideration? --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 10:25:00 PM | message detail |
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*Sonic proxy I meant Sonic proxy DAMMIT --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/21/2006 10:25:03 PM | message detail |
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So today's result is due to Squall being pathetic fodder who couldn't possibly hope to match Snake's vote drawing abilities? More like SSBB + MGS4 + Huge support from the casual increase. I think Snake's strength is influenced greatly by vote totals, moreso than most others. --- Hispanics 1 | Whites 5 Asians 4 | Blacks 3 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 10:25:27 PM | message detail |
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And for that matter, who was calling Yuna and Zelda's matches SFF? TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/21/2006 10:26:43 PM | message detail |
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Anyway, I'm gonna go watch some porn and SFF my penis until it bleeds. --- Hispanics 1 | Whites 5 Asians 4 | Blacks 3 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/21/2006 10:28:36 PM | message detail |
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MR, that's probably the most uncomfortable statement I've ever read in these topics. That includes suicides. --- http://wemajor12.myrockinprofile.com/ Next celebrity I hope to out-rank: Adam Sandler (#1) |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 10:30:40 PM | message detail |
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So, prediction percent for Snake. Over 91%? TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 10:32:36 PM | message detail |
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91% for Snake? Good gravy, I would hope the combined power of Squall
and Tidus would be worth more than that. Especially given that Snake
wasn't exactly uber dominating in his PP against Soma. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| redrocket | Posted 10/21/2006 10:33:26 PM | message detail |
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Then why not create a new acronym for those matches! Not the
Link/Ganondorf (which is obvious SFF), but the Snake/Squall or the
Link/Mega Man (which do not have the same fanbase). We can keep the term SFF, but we should make a new term for those other matches that are not SFF, but the results are similar to SFF. This was already done, ages ago. It's called the Something Fishy Factor, aka SFF |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2006 10:33:33 PM | message detail |
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Zelda did get 92%, and Snake was the clear casual favourite to win this. I can see him breaking 90% TuRtLe ~~~ 43/48 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/21/2006 10:35:52 PM | message detail |
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Zelda did get 92%, and Snake was the clear casual favourite to win this. I can see him breaking 90% Zelda was against Terra (or potentially Kerrigan), while Snake is against Squall... or potentially Tidus, both of which would be more likely to be upset picks over Snake than crap like Terra or Kerrigan over anyone. --- Dancing with myself! Oh-oh! Dancing with myself! Oh-oh! And I'll sweat! Sweat! Sweat! Sweat! Sweat! Sweat! SWEAT! SWEAT! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 10:36:55 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, Samus got 93% or so against the
combined power of Nidoran F, Jade, and Ada Wong. Um...the bracketmakers
love Snake, but not that much. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/21/2006 10:37:16 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, Zelda got 92% with Carmen Sandiego, Terra, and Kerrigan in her
four-pack. She got 45% on Solid Snake last year. Solid Snake has Soma
Cruz, Squall Leonhart, and Tidus in his four-pack. Solid Snake also had
about 1.5% less brackets supporting him in the first round than Zelda,
to boot. There's absolutely no way Solid breaks 90%, and he'll be very
good to break 80%. For the record, in a four-pack with Manny, Zelda, and Vivi, Solid Snake had 72.06% of the brackets last year. --- http://wemajor12.myrockinprofile.com/ Next celebrity I hope to out-rank: Adam Sandler (#1) |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/21/2006 10:43:28 PM | message detail |
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Set Squall = Squall 2K3 (31.72%). Let's say Snake goes down to 58% with
his infamous drop in percentage throughout the day. Snake ends up at
37.76% on BL, not too much higher than last year. Yeah, OMG using
3-year-old data is dumb, but besides Vincent's score against Crono, and
Squall's SFF-dominance over Tidus, was there anything convincing about
Squall being ever-stronger? Nope. Can we make any good conclusions? Not
really. I figure I'll just assume there's SFF today, though. That's because...this would probably mean Squall got about 15% worth of SFF on Tidus. That would be the most SFF we've seen any match (EVER) for a 55/45 match (or so) pre-SFF...for those matches we have data on, anyway. Plus, I would expect something out of KH2. --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/21/2006 10:45:49 PM | message detail |
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I'm still surprised at Zelda's bracket support over
Terra/Kerrigan/(Carmen). Terra had 12% bracket support over Dante last
year when she was an eight
seed, and Kerrigan's support isn't all that much less. I wouldn't be
surprised if she had around 60% bracket support against Aeris next
round. --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/21/2006 10:46:44 PM | message detail |
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I'm pretty sure Zelda was a far bigger upset pick over Snake last year
than Squall/Tidus will be this year. I could see Snake getting 80%. --- Demyx > Axel Z1mZum owned me in the Guru Contest with his mad skills! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 10:49:50 PM | message detail |
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I can't see Squall at his 2k3 level. That would mean that Vincent 2k5
is around the same level, and unless you give him a HUGE boost from DoC
he shouldn't have even been competing with Ganondorf. I guess we'll need to wait until Sonic/Vincent for clarification, but Squall is simply not this weak. --- *kills self Commit it to memory. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/21/2006 10:53:37 PM | message detail |
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Speaking of which, how are we feeling percentage-wise on Sonic/Vincent now? --- http://wemajor12.myrockinprofile.com/ Next celebrity I hope to out-rank: Adam Sandler (#1) |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 10:55:27 PM | message detail |
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I don't think this match would change any feeling on Vincent/Sonic. --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 10:55:52 PM | message detail |
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Same as before. Sonic with 53-55% --- *kills self Commit it to memory. |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 10:57:03 PM | message detail |
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For the record, I think that match is somewhere around 51/49 Sonic. --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/21/2006 10:58:00 PM | message detail |
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Xd Wylvane wtf ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX, FFL2 |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 10:58:29 PM | message detail |
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man, Snake is going to look like the sexiest upset pick ever vs. Mega
Man - potential SFF on Squall and the same with Dante, assuming he
wins. Mega Man on the other hand gets Sora on KH2-roids. I fully expect
Snake to be the board favourite by the time that match comes around. --- xyzzy |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/21/2006 10:58:48 PM | message detail |
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54.30% for Sonic ;>_> --- Dancing with myself! Oh-oh! Dancing with myself! Oh-oh! And I'll sweat! Sweat! Sweat! Sweat! Sweat! Sweat! SWEAT! SWEAT! |
| The Real Truth | Posted 10/21/2006 10:59:16 PM | message detail |
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lol --- Nominate Barret Wallace for SC2k7, you know you want to |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 10:59:35 PM | message detail |
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And while I'm at it, that 51/49 Sonic match would basically require
Sonic to remain about equal to 2005 and Vincent to gain 2% from 2005. --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/21/2006 10:59:40 PM | message detail |
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Sonic > Vincent with 59% on his way to a male bracket victory! --- Demyx > Axel Z1mZum owned me in the Guru Contest with his mad skills! |
| The Real Truth | Posted 10/21/2006 10:59:42 PM | message detail |
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meow mix --- Nominate Barret Wallace for SC2k7, you know you want to |