GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 398
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 12:29:46 AM | message detail |
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why do these conversations always come up in the offseason and during the female bracket? ...oh. --- xyzzy |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 12:30:48 AM | message detail |
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oh, and I really wish people would stop giving Twilight Princess legendary status before the game is even released. at least play it for an hour before anointing it best game ever. --- xyzzy |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/21/2006 12:30:54 AM | message detail |
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I fully expect ceej to announce a Female Villain contest for an April Fool's joke next year. Make it happen! --- CB5 Points: 43/46, Current Oracle placement: 29/165 Now playing: Okami |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 12:31:31 AM | message detail |
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oh, and I really wish people would stop giving Twilight Princess
legendary status before the game is even released. at least play it for
an hour before anointing it best game ever. Miyamoto is all like "Best game ever" and you expect people to not believe? Don't ruin the fun, Tran Man! =( --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/21/2006 12:31:37 AM | message detail |
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And yes, for whatever reason, I just can't see TP being OoT strength. I could be so wrong, but it's a gut feeling. --- CB5 Points: 43/46, Current Oracle placement: 29/165 Now playing: Okami |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 10/21/2006 12:31:58 AM | message detail |
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Honestly, at this point, anything less than being one of the greatest
games ever will cause Twilight Princess to be considered a flop. The
hype has been that huge. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. October 22 - Internal war rages between the Squallid and the Snake |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 12:33:57 AM | message detail |
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I could see TP being very strong (though not stronger than OOT -
nostalgia, folks!), but the fact remains that no one's even played the
thing yet. I'm sure it'll be good (what Zelda game has been poorly
received? any of them?), but to call it one of the five most popular
games ever before it's even been touched is a huge leap of faith I'm
not willing to take. anyway, off to play more Tales of the Abyss -- you know, a game that exists! --- xyzzy |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 12:34:13 AM | message detail |
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TP's ceiling to me is basically OoT, since I've seen nothing yet that
has shown me it's anything other than "shinier OoT". Which is why I
don't find it too interesting in a Games Contest setting...it crushes
more or less the entire field, sure, but I don't see it competing with
FFVII unless OoT has already surpassed it. Which isn't that unlikely at all, really. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 12:34:20 AM | message detail |
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I think Twilight Princess being on both the Wii and the GCN and having
been out for quite a while could easily put it up there with something
like Ocarina of Time. Nintendo made the bar OoT and made sure to surpass it in every way they could. Perhaps the lack of nostalgia may hurt, but if it's just that much better of a game then I don't think it would matter too much... --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/21/2006 12:34:34 AM | message detail |
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transience | Posted 10/21/2006 12:30:48 AM | message detail oh, and I really wish people would stop giving Twilight Princess legendary status before the game is even released. at least play it for an hour before anointing it best game ever. So true. Im fully expecting TP to be great, but its praise is getting out of hand when its not even out yet. --- "I have no fear of losing my life - if I have to save a koala or a crocodile or a kangaroo or a snake, mate, I will save it. " -Steve Irwin |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/21/2006 12:35:13 AM | message detail |
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Well, we'll find out in a month, won't we? --- CB5 Points: 43/46, Current Oracle placement: 29/165 Now playing: Okami |
| voltch | Posted 10/21/2006 12:35:18 AM | message detail |
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i'm sure TP will disappoint only because expectations of the game are above sky high. --- Z1mZum humiliated me to hell and back in the Best.Series.Ever contest. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 12:36:49 AM | message detail |
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what Zelda game has been poorly received? Wind Waker's reception wasn't poor, but the fact that it lost -- nay, was even in CONTENTION with Starcraft was absolutely humiliating. I don't care about Starcraft's history, influence, widespread popularity...it's Zelda, and to go down to something other than the true elites was sad indeed. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 12:36:58 AM | message detail |
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There's always hype for a Zelda game, yeah. I think the deal is here is
that you have places like IGN and GameSpot and everywhere else just
praising the hell
out of everything they played and even raising the question of it
indeed being the best game ever. And then Nintendo, from Miyamoto to
Reggie, saying it's the finest game they've made. And then add into the
fact it's Zelda with that artistic style and the hype is going to be insane. --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/21/2006 12:38:13 AM | message detail |
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The fact that it's a release game for Nintendo's new console doesn't hurt either. --- CB5 Points: 43/46, Current Oracle placement: 29/165 Now playing: Okami |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 12:39:49 AM | message detail |
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Wind Waker's reception wasn't poor, but the fact that it lost --
nay, was even in CONTENTION with Starcraft was absolutely humiliating.
I don't care about Starcraft's history, influence, widespread
popularity...it's Zelda, and to go down to something other than the
true elites was sad indeed. the fact that the bar is set that high is something to praise. WW is what, maybe 5th on the Zelda chain? and it came within inches of a game that came within inches of SSBM? we all know Starcraft's wins probably weren't legitimate anyway, so that's not really saying anything in the first place. I certainly wouldn't say it was "humiliating". --- xyzzy |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 12:40:50 AM | message detail |
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Yeah. It releasing at launch of Nintendo's new, widely available,
system along with the GameCube for those folks who don't immediately
make the jump will definitely give this game a boost, I think. I know I
fully expect TP to become the highest selling Zelda game and beat out
OoT. Heh. --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/21/2006 12:40:50 AM | message detail |
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OoT > LttP > Zelda > WW I'd say. --- CB5 Points: 43/46, Current Oracle placement: 29/165 Now playing: Okami |
| Draco1214 | Posted 10/21/2006 12:46:09 AM | message detail |
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Man, no one wants to give Starcraft any credit... --- Character Battle V Score - 41/46 points Current Prediction - Chun-Li vs. Lara Croft |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 12:48:05 AM | message detail |
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I refuse to give Starcraft credit because I refuse to give Halo credit. The reasons are unimportant, but it is not a game more popular than Final Fantasy X on GameFAQs. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 10/21/2006 12:51:39 AM | message detail |
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I just have the feeling that StarCraft would bomb (relatively) if we had another Games Contest. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. October 22 - Internal war rages between the Squallid and the Snake |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 12:52:16 AM | message detail |
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I don't think StarCraft would do nearly as well as it did if we have another Games Contest. --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 12:54:41 AM | message detail |
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StarCraft doesn't necessarily bomb if we have another Games
Contest...it *does* bomb if the voting is representative of the typical
GameFAQs voting pool. You put Super Smash Brothers Melee v. StarCraft tomorrow without any warning, and it's a total massacre (for Melee, duh). --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| Janus5000 | Posted 10/21/2006 12:59:47 AM | message detail |
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If 54/46 is your idea of a massacre, sure. --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=2916&diff=4 |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 1:00:29 AM | message detail |
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I agree that Starcraft would (relatively) bomb. higher vote totals
would mean that it's harder for a rally to be successful - imagine what
would have happened if the series contest was averaging 80,000 votes?
20-30k would have been enough to take down a ton
of series'. it's also not a novel idea, though it has been so long that
it may be novel again at this point. Starcraft is certainly
unpredictable, but I would err on the side of Nintendo or Square should
such a match arise. --- xyzzy |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 1:00:37 AM | message detail |
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More like 60%+ for Melee, and I feel like I'm being a bit too generous to SC there. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| Janus5000 | Posted 10/21/2006 1:03:19 AM | message detail |
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Funny; I thought I was being generous to Melee. >_> --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=2916&diff=4 |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 1:06:53 AM | message detail |
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to be fair, I think this is a stronger Melee than before - I know the
board overrates it and all, but after seeing what it did to Mario I'm
convinced it's a force on this site at this point. there aren't many
games I'd take over it at this point. --- xyzzy |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 1:07:49 AM | message detail |
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I know a new game I would take over Melee... !! --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 1:11:59 AM | message detail |
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WE KNOW WE KNOW WE KNOW WE KNOW --- xyzzy |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/21/2006 1:13:24 AM | message detail |
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You know, I was so going to say...SSBB. << --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/21/2006 1:17:20 AM | message detail |
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Final Fantasy III/Luneth/Dark Cloud for the Games/Character/Female Villain Contests! --- Hispanics 1 | Whites 5 Asians 4 | Blacks 3 |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 10/21/2006 1:25:06 AM | message detail |
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Wow, could Yoshi and Dante possibly look more opposite? That made me
chuckle, it's a shame Dante's going to be crushed so easily... Yoshi's happiness will prevail! --- Revenge is a dish best served by Z1mZum in the 2k6 Series Guru Contest. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/21/2006 1:30:28 AM | message detail |
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The top 10 isn't that bad of an indicator for the general strength of a
game. Yes, of course there are a lot of other factors to take into
consideration... But StarCraft would still have done decently well
without the cheating. Really, at most it was a couple thousand votes in
any given match. Enough to reverse the winner, not enough to overrate
its half of the bracket to hell and back. --- If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot. If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it. |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 1:32:36 AM | message detail |
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these updates are wacky... Lara's almost won two of them. Lara will probably win some come morning. --- xyzzy |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 1:35:42 AM | message detail |
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I'm not even referring to cheating. Frog/Snake almost assuredly wasn't
the result of cheating, and yet it still overrated Frog from what I
assume is approximately one billion percentage points. There are too many games that simply do not struggle with Halo...and while you can perhaps make the argument that it's non-linear (and you'd be right), the match with StarCraft was simply too damn close for me to *not* be skeptical. At the very LEAST, the SC that faced Melee was not the one that faced Halo. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/21/2006 1:41:54 AM | message detail |
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So where are all the people that care about Legends now? Did the 7 fans realize that Lara is still weak? ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 1:45:43 AM | message detail |
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To her credit, unless Chun-Li is as weak as...um...Jin Kazama, Lara isn't as weak as 2k4 says. But we all knew that anyway...I'd think this picture is doing more for her than Legends did. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 1:50:31 AM | message detail |
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I really think Lara's doing well here. if you went strictly by stats, this should be a doubling if not more. *looks* yeah, 70%. yeah the Lara pickers were a bit off the deep end, but it's not like there were more than a couple of them. hell, someone picked Joanna Dark yesterday. --- xyzzy |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/21/2006 1:54:26 AM | message detail |
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Hey, SC has that problem too... just in a different way. No one says
they're perfect. No one should. Hell, with a few years past no one in
their right mind is going to read those stats as if they're written in
stone without setting themselves up for a fall. The fact of the matter
is, however, that both of those games are highly popular and desevred a
decently high ranking. Maybe not that high, perhaps, but they aren't
far off from what their value should have been at the time. A time long
since past. --- If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot. If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/21/2006 1:56:22 AM | message detail |
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2k4 Lara is a case of utter abuse. You know, sorta like yesterday's
match or Vyse's last year. Not sure if we can track down the reason,
but sometimes stuff like that happens to the dregs. Some characters
just seem to have ceilings. --- If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot. If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/21/2006 1:59:52 AM | message detail |
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But still, people were calling for an upset here. ...WHY? ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/21/2006 2:02:02 AM | message detail |
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| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/21/2006 2:04:42 AM | message detail |
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Some people just lover to pick the blackest ****ing horse they can find. Really, between the new game (that was rather good, as I've heard) and a general feelign that 2k4 just couldn't be right on her part combined that some people will take any sort of upset they can half-assedly justify... how could you not expect it? --- If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot. If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 3:01:29 AM | message detail |
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Man, I hope Lara can sucker enough brackets to get me on the leaderboard soon...before Dante ruins my bracket. ;_; Though if Yoshi wins, I'm...great, actually. Erm...whatever, kick his ass anyway, Dante! --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 3:01:55 AM | message detail |
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Lara Croft wins her first update in three years! god, SF's overnight/morning vote is nothing short of legendary. --- xyzzy |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2006 3:04:19 AM | message detail |
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How many matches has it cost them? Probably Resident Evil/Street
Fighter, perhaps M. Bison/Diablo, it probably stopped SFII from at
least looking respectable against SMRPG... --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 3:10:47 AM | message detail |
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jeez, three in a row. and here I thought I made a good Oracle pick! darn you transience for changing from 56 to 59 --- xyzzy |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/21/2006 3:16:49 AM | message detail |
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3 years? I could have sworn the last update Lara won was against Ryo Hazuki in 2002. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2006 3:22:10 AM | message detail |
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well, for all I know she could have won a five minute update vs. Zelda. (not that we had those.) I know she didn't come even close to winning an update vs. Samus. --- xyzzy |