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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 398

Janus5000 | Posted 10/20/2006 3:05:13 PM | message detail
First rule of Contest Stats: Never base anything off the stats of a character below the fodder line.

Well, duh. I'm sure no one actually thinks Yuna is on par with Solid Snake. >_>
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SquallidSnake | Posted 10/20/2006 3:20:26 PM | message detail
I love how people use worthless matches as an opportunity to bash the stats. It's not like we needed them to know Yuna was going to rip Joanna a new one. Plus, she's not cult. She's just weak. She won't have a dedicated fanbase that votes her over everything. She's just from an unpopular genre.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/20/2006 3:24:05 PM | message detail
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/20/2006 3:25:39 PM | message detail
Actually, Perfect Dark is a popular game (47% on SOTN is no joke, IMO). It's just that no one cares about FPS characters.
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/20/2006 3:29:44 PM | message detail
1) Dante
8) Prince of Persia
4) Yuna
5) Sora
3) Tidus
6) Ryu Hayabusa
2) Master Chief
7) KOS-MOS

Emerald Division

1) Knuckles
8) Sam Fisher
4) Rikku
5) Chun Li
3) Ryu
6) Lara Croft
2) Luigi
7) Shadow the Hedgehog

Neo-Arcadia Division

1) Zero
8) Liquid Snake
4) Jill Valentine
5) Gordon Freeman
3) Yoshi
6) Riku
2) Auron
7) Diablo

Time Division

1) Magus
8) Sub-Zero
4) Vivi
5) Frog
3) Leon Kennedy
6) Alucard
2) Donkey Kong
7) Miles 'Tails' Prower

Sora
Luigi
Auron
Magus

The most difficult Round 1 matches: DK/Tails, MC/KOS-MOS, Luigi/Shadow. Most Difficult Round 2: Dante/Sora, Tidus/MC. Most Difficult Round 3: Knuckles/Luigi, Magus/Leon. Difficult Round 4: Sora/Luigi. Auron destroys everyone. *looks at others' picks* Dante over Sora? Well, Dante got 65% on Hayabusa...Sora got 62% on a slightly weakened Hayabusa, but he's had KH2 since then.

First rule of Contest Stats: Never base anything off the stats of a character below the fodder line.

EVAH.


Or, rather, expect them to work at random times, but also expect them to fail at random times.

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therealmnm | Posted 10/20/2006 3:29:49 PM | message detail
Okay, I'm not even reading what I missed since I'm headed right back out the door, but I have to say this. This match should be proof enough that fodder DOES fluctuate (and even some slightly stronger characters). Yuna is doing 3% less than freakin' 2k5 MARIO on Joanna. And there's nothing "fishy" about this.

Seeing how Perfect Dark Zero came out AFTER 2k5, there is absolutely no reason why Joanna Dark would drop in popularity. And I definitely would not call for an overperformance on friggin' 2k5 Mario when Mario went on to own the rest of the main bracket. I don't want to hear a thing about N64 "rSFF" or anything. Plus, there is absolutely NO connection between Joanna Dark and Yuna, so there's no reason for Yuna to specifically overperform on Joanna (don't want to hear any of that Tifa/Vyse SFF crap here either!!) And no I don't see Yuna even being near the elites. No excuses here. Joanna is just getting her ass beat.
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/20/2006 3:35:05 PM | message detail
Predictions!

Round 1:
1) Dante
5) Sora
3) Tidus
2) Master Chief

1) Knuckles
4) Rikku
3) Ryu
2) Luigi

1) Zero
4) Jill Valentine
3) Yoshi
2) Auron

1) Magus
4) Vivi
3) Leon Kennedy
2) Donkey Kong

Round 2:
1) Dante
3) Tidus

1) Knuckles
2) Luigi

1) Zero
2) Auron

1) Magus
3) Leon Kennedy

Round 3:
1) Dante
2) Luigi

2) Auron
1) Magus

Finals:
1) Dante
2) Auron

Winner: 2) Auron

Dante/Luigi was easily the hardest match for me. Everything else wasn't too difficult.
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Current Prediction - Yuna vs. Joanna Dark
UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/20/2006 3:36:33 PM | message detail
From SquallidSnake Posted 10/20/2006 6:20:26 PM #052
I love how people use worthless matches as an opportunity to bash the stats. It's not like we needed them to know Yuna was going to rip Joanna a new one. Plus, she's not cult. She's just weak. She won't have a dedicated fanbase that votes her over everything. She's just from an unpopular genre.

Okay LOL @ PD and FPS being unpopular.

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SquallidSnake | Posted 10/20/2006 3:37:30 PM | message detail
That's more like it.

Although it's really FPS characters. FPS games actually did fairly well for themselves.

LOL Master Chief
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/20/2006 4:40:58 PM | message detail
Okay, I'm not even reading what I missed since I'm headed right back out the door, but I have to say this. This match should be proof enough that fodder DOES fluctuate (and even some slightly stronger characters). Yuna is doing 3% less than freakin' 2k5 MARIO on Joanna. And there's nothing "fishy" about this.

Seeing how Perfect Dark Zero came out AFTER 2k5, there is absolutely no reason why Joanna Dark would drop in popularity. And I definitely would not call for an overperformance on friggin' 2k5 Mario when Mario went on to own the rest of the main bracket. I don't want to hear a thing about N64 "rSFF" or anything. Plus, there is absolutely NO connection between Joanna Dark and Yuna, so there's no reason for Yuna to specifically overperform on Joanna (don't want to hear any of that Tifa/Vyse SFF crap here either!!) And no I don't see Yuna even being near the elites. No excuses here. Joanna is just getting her ass beat.


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Janus5000 | Posted 10/20/2006 4:41:55 PM | message detail
We can't read words on our own heads.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/20/2006 4:51:44 PM | message detail
You can when you look in the mirror! (clearly I would be branding the mirror image of the words so that they could be readable)
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YoboD | Posted 10/20/2006 4:52:54 PM | message detail
Devil Devision

Dante
Sora
Tidus
Master Chief

Emerald Devision

1) Knuckles
5) Chun Li
3) Ryu
2) Luigi

Neo-Arcadia Division

1) Zero
4) Jill Valentine
3) Yoshi
2) Auron

Time Division

1) Magus
4) Vivi
3) Leon Kennedy
2) Donkey Kong

Devil Devision

Sora
Master Chief

Emerald Devision

1) Knuckles
2) Luigi

Neo-Arcadia Division

1) Zero
2) Auron


Time Division

1) Magus
3) Leon Kennedy

Sora
Luigi

Auron
Leon

Sora
Auron

Auron
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/20/2006 5:11:26 PM | message detail
Just a thought, but did Joanna have her full name in the match with Mario? Because if her name in the poll was Joanna Dark instead of just Joanna, I think she might be doing better for herself.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/20/2006 5:12:16 PM | message detail
Oh nevermind, she does have her full name today >_>

Hmmmm <__<

TuRtLe
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/20/2006 5:24:53 PM | message detail
Snake looks terrible, Dante looks terrible, Sora looks awesome and LOL Mega Man.

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TheCruelAngel | Posted 10/20/2006 5:29:16 PM | message detail
Squall FTW!

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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/20/2006 5:32:07 PM | message detail
Snake looks much, much cooler than Squall.

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Gaddswell | Posted 10/20/2006 5:33:21 PM | message detail
We finally got a Gordon face pic!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/20/2006 5:33:28 PM | message detail
I can't help by look at Sora/Gordon and want to vote Gordon. He's like "Phoenix couldn't beat me, so some ***** with a key ain't gonna do it either."
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/20/2006 5:34:04 PM | message detail
I'm definitely voting for Gordon based on that picture.

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KingBartz | Posted 10/20/2006 5:38:51 PM | message detail
Gordon looks absolutely awesome. Snake doesn't look great, but definately badass. Dante doesn't look bad, Sora looks funny, megaman is the ****!

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KingBartz | Posted 10/20/2006 5:39:39 PM | message detail
oh, and Ryu looks like a caveman.
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Yesmar | Posted 10/20/2006 5:41:01 PM | message detail
Gordon has turned into Dr. Gregory House!!!

And I was actually gonna vote for him too.
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MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/20/2006 5:43:09 PM | message detail
Gordon looks like he's ass-sexing Sora.

That can't be legal.
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KingBartz | Posted 10/20/2006 5:44:59 PM | message detail
Actually, megaman looks like he's getting buttsecks'd too.

And enjoying it.
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SC2k6: 40/44 Today's pick: Yuna
Who Cares? | Posted 10/20/2006 5:45:38 PM | message detail
Heh, I like Gordon's look. He's all like: "Yeah, I'm in the 2nd round, what now suckas! :P"

Ryu/Mega Man not as good as I hoped. I was expecting the pic of Mega pointing his arm cannon at the screen, & the pic of Ryu charging his Hadoken on the Super SF2 title screen. Now THAT would've been awesome!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/20/2006 5:46:59 PM | message detail
Haha, I just notice, look at the characters who are in the front, as opposed to the back.

Snake
Yoshi
Sora
Mega Man

Hidden meaning? I think so!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/20/2006 5:47:44 PM | message detail
Mega Man just got hit with his worst match picture ever. Ryu overperformance!
Master Moltar | Posted 10/20/2006 5:47:58 PM | message detail
Snake looks excellent, though Squall looks good to.

I like Yoshi's pic, and it definitely draws more attention than Dante's.

Valor form Sora looks alright, but man, you gotta admit Gordon looks badass.

lol Ryu/Mega Man. Ryu is ok, but Mega Man...wow, what the hell?
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Yuna vs. Joanna - Bracket: Yuna - Vote: Joanna (40/44)
Kaxon | Posted 10/20/2006 5:52:46 PM | message detail
Yoshi's picture just makes me laugh. Funny how Yoshi and Mega Man have almost the same pose and expression, just facing in opposite directions.
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Kaxon | Posted 10/20/2006 5:55:33 PM | message detail
Mega Man just got hit with his worst match picture ever. Ryu overperformance!

Worst ever? Not even close!!

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=2&pos=62
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/20/2006 5:56:56 PM | message detail
Yoshi looks awesome though...MM, not so much

Yoshi's like "ladedadedadeda I'm a dinosaur lol!"
Your finished Dante, your FINISHED!!!

I am curious to see if the Old SS pic affect the match at all, it shouldnt but you never know...

anyways...loliphuants are massacring MM, what a bad pic...XD
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Dekar TKB | Posted 10/20/2006 5:58:11 PM | message detail
That's Mega Man's MvC2 art, I think. You know what that means!

FIGHTING GAME RSFF! RYU BEATS MEGA MAN! YES!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/20/2006 6:05:44 PM | message detail
Didn't MM get his Mega Man 1 cover art in 2k2? Before Ceej changed the pic?

TuRtLe
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/20/2006 6:10:05 PM | message detail
Didn't MM get his Mega Man 1 cover art in 2k2? Before Ceej changed the pic?

Yup it was against Ms. Pac-Man
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HoorayProxies | Posted 10/20/2006 6:14:13 PM | message detail
ATTN: Yoshi

GET THE **** OUT DANTE'S PIC JEEZE

Oh, and I'm totally voting for MM now, that pic made me hard.

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Yesmar | Posted 10/20/2006 6:34:57 PM | message detail
Am I the only one who's a little worried about Old Snake being used. I don't think Snake's in any real danger, but Squall might still manage to give him a little scare.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/20/2006 6:36:30 PM | message detail
I doubt the Old Snake picture will do him any harm.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/20/2006 6:47:50 PM | message detail
I would consider MGS artwork or Solid **** to be considerably worse.

Anyways, Lara > Chun-Li. The Magus/Knuckles of this contest? I can see Lara winning it, especially after the rest of Dream has bombed terribly.

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Big Bob | Posted 10/20/2006 6:50:43 PM | message detail
Eh, Snake's fine. Everyone's hyped about MGS4 anyway.

Yoshi/Dante is just awesome. Cute & Cuddly vs Badass.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/20/2006 6:52:23 PM | message detail
Blargh, I can't wait for Chun-Li/Lara to begin, and then watch Chun-Li clean house, putting an end to all this silly upset talk.

That's right, I said it's silly!!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/20/2006 6:52:59 PM | message detail
Squall is the hottest piece of ass ever <_<

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/20/2006 6:55:04 PM | message detail
From Big Bob Posted 10/20/2006 9:50:43 PM
Eh, Snake's fine. Everyone's hyped about MGS4 anyway.

Yoshi/Dante is just awesome. Cute &amp; Cuddly vs Badass.


Hmmm, where have we seen that before....

TuRtLe
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/20/2006 6:55:14 PM | message detail
Match XL: (3) Chun Li vs. (2) Lara Croft

Previous Matches

Chun Li
Defeated Kasumi, 68.74% - 31.26%

Lara Croft
Defeated Alyx Vance, 77.55% - 22.45%

Analysis:

Last round Chun Li proved that the 2k2 stats are worthless or really overrated by doubling a character who ranked 25th that year. Lara Croft proved that she doesn’t have as many anti-votes as she used to by easily tripling Alyx in the lowest scoring match of the contest. Sure it was expected that Alyx was one of the weakest character in the bracket, but for Lara, who couldn’t break 70% on an Onion she did really well.

Final match of the female half and this one has gotten some talk. Chun Li is still the huge favorite to take the match, but people think that Lara could make this a close match. It is possible for Lara to pull the upset, but it is highly unlikely and she would need about everything going for her.

First of all Lara’s 2k4 ranking (her latest and is what most people go by) might be underrated. She took a massive drop from 2k3 to 2k4; sure her movie was released during the weekend before the match against Zelda, but even if you go further back to 2k2 she still takes a nasty drop. Sam Fisher did help prove Lara’s point by taking a huge jump right after he fell in 2k4, but the problem is that Sam was in Master Chief’s four pack in 2k5 and right at the end of the first round he lost to Sub-Zero (because of the new MK game), so unless Sub-Zero is a near elite MC probably overrated DK which made Sam overrated which means him being underrated in 2k4 doesn’t look so good.

Something that will help Lara’s strength was Tomb Raider: Legend being released a few months ago. From what I heard TR fans are calling this the RE4 of TR and I can see why, both were “almost dead” series, both games were very well taken by fans and they both introduced new fans to the series. The only difference is RE4 probably helped Leon more than TRL will for Lara, but I do expect Lara to get a healthy boost.

Finally Chun Li may be overrated from last year. As we’ve seen during the first round of the male bracket both Ryu and Bowser underperformed against their opponents (so did Kirby, but he was against an unknown). I believe that the Dream Division was overrated because of Snake/Bowser, which trickles down all the way to Chun Li. This makes Kasumi look worse, but I would be surprised if Chun Li is as strong as the x-stats say last year.

I think Lara could make this match close, but in the end I don’t think she has the strength to beat Chun Li, especially if her 2k4 numbers were somewhat true (which now look possible). TRL has made her stronger and unless she gets destroyed in this match by Chun Li I wouldn’t mind seeing her in another contest.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Chun Li over Lara Croft

charmander6000’s Prediction: Chun Li wins, 56.82% - 43.18%

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/20/2006 6:58:35 PM | message detail
I would consider MGS artwork or Solid **** to be considerably worse.

Not to disagree, but you wouldn't know.

Anyways, Lara > Chun-Li. The Magus/Knuckles of this contest? I can see Lara winning it, especially after the rest of Dream has bombed terribly.

Using the biggest extreme of overratedness (using Bowser through Leon 2k5), that puts Chun-Li at KOS-MOS 2005's level. Not only could I never see her there, but that value still beats Lara 2k4 with 65%. She barely loses to Lara 2k2 with 49% of the vote and loses a little more to Lara 2k3 (who is likely overrated from the movie coming out the weekend of the match).

Basically, Lara has to be nowhere near her 2k4 level and Chun-Li has to be completely and utterly overrated to the extreme, not to mention Leon has to gain nothing from RE4 on the PS2.

And this STILL wouldn't compare to Magus/Knuckles. I don't know why people keep throwing that comparison around like it means something.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/20/2006 7:03:13 PM | message detail
Squall is the hottest piece of ass ever

Peach and Raiden outclassed, Ulti?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/20/2006 7:05:45 PM | message detail
And this STILL wouldn't compare to Magus/Knuckles. I don't know why people keep throwing that comparison around like it means something.

"Obvious" match that winds up being a huge stat upset.

I still think Chunners has this, but TR: Legends has me a little worried. I can definitely see Lara dominating during the day.

TuRtLe
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/20/2006 7:08:18 PM | message detail
"Obvious" match that winds up being a huge stat upset.

We get tons of those all the time. Ocelot/Pac-Man, Kirby/Tidus, Mario/Samus...there are stat upsets, and then there is Magus/Knuckles. To compare freaking Chun-Li/Lara to it...ugh.
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Tediz247 | Posted 10/20/2006 7:10:50 PM | message detail
Snake/Squall: I'd totally go gay for Squall. Hottest video game character not named Sheena, Nova, and several assorted other females ever. That said, I definitely prefer Old Snake to MGA Snake. Let's see how he does.

Yoshi/Dante: Yay NintendoFAQs! My Yoshi pick still lives!

Sora/GF: Damn, Sora looks totally badass. And to think, as little as two years ago, I thought that wouldn't be possible. Of course, I didn't anticipate KH2 changing my opinion of Sora >_>

Ryu/Mega Man: Ryu looks awesome. Mega Man... is the following emoticon: ^o^
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