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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 397
King Bowser | Posted 10/19/2006 11:32:03 AM | message detail |
What does Zelda have to do with anything? ...I wasn't telling you anything; I was just making mention of Zelda. Every performance Aeris has relates directly to her match with Zelda. It doesn't have to be all XS III anyway. 24% at base Link is still under her 2k4 value. Yeah. By a whopping .24%. Woohoo! --- "Thank You Mario! But our Princess is in another castle!" |
Kaxon | Posted 10/19/2006 11:33:06 AM | message detail |
I think you tend to overexaggerate boosts for characters just a bit too much. To see that coming from you, XD. I don't think a 2.7% boost is a stretch for a couple reasons. One, it's a lot easier to boost when you're down at KOS-MOS's level than, to pick a totally random example, Ganon's level. Second, she's just returning to her old strength anyway... so if people who voted for her in 2003 and 2004 have liked her new game, or even just heard good things about it, she could recover that strength much more easily than someone trying to move up to a new level. Of course, I can't claim that this isn't disappointing for Aeris. I'm just saying it doesn't mean she'd lose to Luigi (especially Luigi 2k5). --- ....TCELES B HSUP |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/19/2006 11:34:01 AM | message detail |
totally random example Yeah....random...right... >_> --- CB5 Points: 39/42, Current Oracle placement: 37/163 Now playing: Okami |
consolefreak | Posted 10/19/2006 11:34:19 AM | message detail |
...I wasn't telling you anything; I was just making mention of
Zelda. Every performance Aeris has relates directly to her match with
Zelda. Yeah well, we can agree on that then. Zelda's the huge favourite. Yeah. By a whopping .24%. Woohoo! You're going to take me on the wording? Whatever. "Around" her 2k4 level then. And that's still being conservative; she's had XS II and III since then. --- CB: 38/40. Today: Zelda vs. Terra. Tomorrow: KOS-MOS vs. Aeris. |
__Smurf__ | Posted 10/19/2006 11:35:19 AM | message detail |
I think it's perfectly acceptable for Aeris. Without a boost since last year, Zelda loses to Aeris. --- Smurf. The Cream of Jill Valentine Fanboyism. |
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/19/2006 11:42:14 AM | message detail |
Why the hell is everyone so sold on SMS boosting Mario to ridiculous
levels to thwart Cloud in 2K2? How about things were just different
back then. Would Cloud have won without it? Yeah, but that doesn't mean
Mario boosted into the stratosphere due to it coming out that day, we
have no idea where either of those characters stood back then. I'm
really not sold on day of the match releases boosting characters that
much. I'd rather have the match come a week later when people have
actually played the game. --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/19/2006 11:43:34 AM | message detail |
If it had boosted Mario that much, he probably would have beaten Link too, no? --- CB5 Points: 39/42, Current Oracle placement: 37/163 Now playing: Okami |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/19/2006 11:44:31 AM | message detail |
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/19/2006 11:45:06 AM | message detail |
Considering Megaman gave Sephiroth a run for his money, I don't think
Cloud would have beaten Mario too badly. Though I do think he would
have won without those circumstances, if only by like, 1% In any case, Cloud technicaly doing worse than Crono is ridiculous --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/19/2006 11:45:54 AM | message detail |
Depends where you think his value without it sat. Either way, people need to just realize we can't draw anything solid from 2K2. --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/19/2006 11:47:18 AM | message detail |
No, because Link has the SFF advantage over Mario. --- If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot. If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it. |
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/19/2006 11:48:53 AM | message detail |
No one is trying to draw anything conclussive from 2k2. ANy talk of it is for fun at this point, no doubt. --- If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot. If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it. |
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/19/2006 11:51:38 AM | message detail |
No one is trying to draw anything conclussive from 2k2. ANy talk of it is for fun at this point, no doubt. KHF, releases on the day of matches causing huge boosts? Both of those have been talked about very seriously, yet rely on 2K2. Either way, I don't want to start up another KHF debate, just that people do take things from that year and draw conclusions for years past then. --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/19/2006 11:53:41 AM | message detail |
Again, anyone talking about them at this point is talking about them
for fun. Those of us with a predisposition towards X-Stat addiction
will talk about any numbers/factors seriously, it doesn't mean that
anyone if going to use those numbers for anything. Really, it's for personal enjoyment. You know, fun. :) --- If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot. If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it. |
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/19/2006 11:56:49 AM | message detail |
KOS looking to win the day vote again? I sure hope so! --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
Kaxon | Posted 10/19/2006 11:57:38 AM | message detail |
In any case, Cloud technicaly doing worse than Crono is ridiculous For a contest held in 2002, it's not that ridiculous... Poll 366 (11/29/2000) What's the best Squaresoft game of all time? 441 5.03% Chrono Cross 1886 21.53% Chrono Trigger 1358 15.5% Final Fantasy VI (III) 1882 21.48% Final Fantasy VII 751 8.57% Final Fantasy IX 728 8.31% Final Fantasy Tactics 987 11.27% Xenogears 727 8.3% Other --- ....TCELES B HSUP |
MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/19/2006 12:03:59 PM | message detail |
It's ridiculous because the match was so close. Even if Cloud would of
only ended up a sliver better than Crono, he WOULD of beat Mario
without Sunshine coming out on the day of the match. I don't see how
anyone can debate that. --- Demyx > Axel Z1mZum owned me in the Guru Contest with his mad skills! |
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/19/2006 12:05:17 PM | message detail |
No one debates that, I'm disagreeing about it giving Mario a huge ass boost. --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/19/2006 12:06:58 PM | message detail |
KOS-MOS is overperforming because of her boobs --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
Haste_2 | Posted 10/19/2006 12:11:37 PM | message detail |
I think SMS didn't only affect Mario on his match with Cloud, but also
his match with Crono (it was only 4 days later), though more on
Mario/Cloud. Mario would've beaten Crono with 51.5% if CJayC actually
bothered to take out the remaining 2,500 stuffed votes for Crono... --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
Haste_2 | Posted 10/19/2006 12:13:24 PM | message detail |
Oh, and what The n00b avenger said. That said, I wouldn't want to count
Aeris out (see foreshadowing of Mario/Crono in 2K3), but obviously
Zelda should be favored. --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/19/2006 12:16:01 PM | message detail |
Well, more like a 51.25% victory. Under 56% for Aeris that time. GO JUG FACTOR --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
LeonhartForever | Posted 10/19/2006 12:16:19 PM | message detail |
I'm pretty sure you're underrating Tifa and Zelda's 4-packs, and overrating Rikku's and possibly Peach's. At this point, I'm not trying to look for potential boosts and whatnot. I'm mostly just sticking in a value from a previous contest and seeing what it looks like. I think this will help give an idea of who boosted, who dropped, etc. It's not meant to be accurate. Serge's time has come and gone. He would have been a good new character in 2003 or maybe 2004. I doubt he'd be worth much now - I certainly wouldn't take him over Zidane. Meh, after seeing Marle come awfully close to breaching the fodder line and Lavos looking half decent, I still want to see what the Chrono Cross main can do. He probably wouldn't do much, but you never know. I'm really not up for trusting KOS-MOS 2k4 when there is nothing wrong with KOS-MOS 2k5, which is her more recent strength. Nothing wrong with it except it drops Aeris down in the 29% range on BL, and she loses to Luigi 2005 with 46.05% of the vote. I'm all for Tifa > Aeris, but not by THAT much. --- Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship: Round 2: (1) Solid Snake |
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/19/2006 12:17:44 PM | message detail |
KOS "The Day Vote Queen" MOS --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
LeonhartForever | Posted 10/19/2006 12:17:54 PM | message detail |
Oh, and since someone was asking for the projected stats from round 1, I still have them. Samus Aran – 41.69% Crono – 39.87% Mega Man – 38.79% Sonic the Hedgehog – 38.50% Solid Snake – 36.97% Bowser Koopa – 36.54% Auron – 36.28% Vincent Valentine – 35.58% Squall Leonhart – 35.16% Kirby – 34.99% Luigi – 34.66% Dante Sparda – 34.12% Ganondorf – 33.74% Princess Zelda – 33.71% Tifa Lockhart – 33.57% Aeris Gainsborough – 32.81% Leon Kennedy – 32.56% Zero – 32.09% Sora – 32.00% Sub-Zero – 31.50% Master Chief – 30.87% Ryu – 29.98% Yoshi – 29.01% The Prince of Persia – 26.80% Rikku – 26.55% Yuna – 26.10% Riku – 25.99% Alucard – 25.83% Kratos – 25.72% Gordon Freeman – 25.60% Chun-Li – 24.92% Ryu Hayabusa – 23.75% Jill Valentine – 23.74% Princess Peach – 23.50% Axel – 23.37% The Boss – 23.00% Phoenix Wright – 21.40% KOS-MOS – 21.30% Captain Falcon – 20.60% Marle – 19.83% Tidus – 19.68% Kairi – 19.39% Terra Branford – 18.65% Ada Wong – 18.64% Claire Redfield – 18.58% Sheena Fujibayashi – 18.03% Celes Chere – 17.90% Lara Croft – 16.75% Joanna Dark – 16.50% Ivy Valentine – 15.99% Tingle – 15.61% Kasumi – 15.58% Sarah Kerrigan – 15.41% Nidoran F – 15.13% CATS – 14.82% Amy Rose – 14.73% Lenneth Valkyrie – 13.28% Soma Cruz – 13.20% Cortana – 13.12% Roll – 10.81% Carmen Sandiego – 9.38% Jade – 9.00% Princess Daisy – 7.94% Alyx Vance – 7.52% *points and laughs* Oh, and Ulti can't say I was calling Peach total joke fodder at the end of round 1. --- Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship: Round 2: (1) Solid Snake |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/19/2006 12:20:33 PM | message detail |
Holy crap, KOS-MOS. She could even win a update in here somewhere if this keeps up. --- CB5 Points: 39/42, Current Oracle placement: 37/163 Now playing: Okami |
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/19/2006 12:22:05 PM | message detail |
Holy crap, KOS-MOS. She could even win a update in here somewhere if this keeps up. In her best update Aeris still went up 65 votes. >_> --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/19/2006 12:22:45 PM | message detail |
Could, damnit! I said could! --- CB5 Points: 39/42, Current Oracle placement: 37/163 Now playing: Okami |
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/19/2006 12:26:16 PM | message detail |
Oh man the kiddies love the boobs. And now I bid you all farewell, because I know you need to know that I'm leaving. --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
AmazingKirby | Posted 10/19/2006 12:52:13 PM | message detail |
Aeris is losing the day vote to KOS-MOS. Zelda is going to destroy her. --- caps |
LeonhartForever | Posted 10/19/2006 12:58:19 PM | message detail |
The FFVII ladies don't appear to be too good with the day vote. And remember that trends don't determine the outcome, folks. --- Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship: Round 2: (1) Solid Snake |
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/19/2006 12:59:50 PM | message detail |
Zelda is going to destroy her. It won't be just the day vote where she destroys her either! The whole match will be one awesome Zelda domination!! --- "Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!" |
AmazingKirby | Posted 10/19/2006 1:00:18 PM | message detail |
No, but getting 63% on KOS-MOS and 80% on Terra do! --- caps |
MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/19/2006 1:02:46 PM | message detail |
I think this is explaining why Sheena did so good in the day against
Jill. The kiddies appearantly love cleavage from anime looking girls! --- Demyx > Axel Z1mZum owned me in the Guru Contest with his mad skills! |
Master Moltar | Posted 10/19/2006 1:06:16 PM | message detail |
Cult character winning the day vote over popular FF7 character? Man,
FF7 females do suck with the day vote, while the men are good with it. Then again, I can't blame Aeris, KOS-MOS looks great. And woo for being right about Luigi overperforming on KOS-MOS and not trusting that 2005 value, because I don't think Luigi has boosted that much over Aeris. --- Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded. KOS-MOS vs. Aeris - Bracket: Aeris - Vote: KOS-MOS (38/42) |
LeonhartForever | Posted 10/19/2006 1:07:16 PM | message detail |
No, but getting 63% on KOS-MOS and 80% on Terra do! 80% on Terra means nothing to me right now. You can't base anything off of an obvious overperformance. But for a good comparison of day vote suckitude, Zelda took Snake from 57.21% to 54.41% there. --- Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship: Round 2: (1) Solid Snake |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/19/2006 1:07:39 PM | message detail |
Or maybe he did and that's how he kicked Zero's ass. SONIC IS SO SCREWED --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/19/2006 1:11:51 PM | message detail |
Also, just curious... ...but Carmen Sandiego is expected to get 40.99% against Kerrigan according to the stats. Do you feel that's too much for Carmen's exposure -- exposure she couldn't use against Zelda -- to take advantage of Kerrigan's weakness and make it close? I'm not saying win, but to make it a close affair? --- http://wemajor12.myrockinprofile.com/ Next celebrity I hope to out-rank: Weird Al Yankovic (#9) |
LeonhartForever | Posted 10/19/2006 1:19:58 PM | message detail |
Eh, cult characters aren't as bad with
the day vote as people think. KOS-MOS won it against Ryu before (then
again, it IS Ryu), and Albedo won it against Bison (once again, it's SF
we're talking about). Sora/HK-47 had very minimal shifts, despite the KH day vote, which he ripped Hayabusa using. Vyse did lose it to Cloud, but then again, it's Cloud, one of the most anti-voted characters by the board. He's almost guaranteed to gain with the day vote, unless he's facing Link. The same thing happened with Sephiroth/Ramirez. Vyse actually DID take the day vote from Tifa, however. ...I just realized that Ultros had 39%+ on Wily before the morning vote hit. Man, the FFVI day vote sucks. Mithos took the day vote from Kefka when Wesker did NOTHING with it. Man, the FFVI and RE day votes suck. Giygas got beat down pretty badly with the day vote. Ghaleon did take it from Vergil, and Lavos took it from Liquid Snake. Man, the MGS day vote sucks. KOS-MOS actually took the after school vote from Luigi and didn't get utterly destroyed by the morning vote. She gained 1.5% from her lowest percentage in the morning. Laharl lost ground to Yoshi though. Kratos Aurion took the day vote from Diablo, who destroyed Kefka and Bison with it (then again, it's FFVI and SF). Lloyd took it from Wesker, too. Then again, it's RE. In general, it seems that cult characters face characters who suck with the day vote. --- Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship: Round 2: (1) Solid Snake |
LeonhartForever | Posted 10/19/2006 1:20:47 PM | message detail |
...but Carmen Sandiego is expected to get 40.99% against Kerrigan
according to the stats. Do you feel that's too much for Carmen's
exposure -- exposure she couldn't use against Zelda -- to take
advantage of Kerrigan's weakness and make it close? I'm not saying win,
but to make it a close affair? Zelda overperformed on Terra. She did. Denying this is just silly. --- Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship: Round 2: (1) Solid Snake |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/19/2006 1:24:36 PM | message detail |
I would buy Terra and Kerrigan both dropping before I buy an
over-performance there. I ain't saying Zelda's beating Mario or is even
a Noble Nine breaker now, but you're cutting Zelda afew props short
there too. --- http://wemajor12.myrockinprofile.com/ Next celebrity I hope to out-rank: Weird Al Yankovic (#9) |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/19/2006 1:25:08 PM | message detail |
I actually would have taken Carmen Sandiego over Kerrigan before I saw any matches this year >_< --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
LeonhartForever | Posted 10/19/2006 1:25:30 PM | message detail |
This ain't all Zelda increasing and likewise it's not all them
dropping. It's in the middle ground, and thus, it's an overperformance. --- Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship: Round 2: (1) Solid Snake |
wavedash101 | Posted 10/19/2006 1:26:33 PM | message detail |
Man what I would give to see HK-47 win a match...too bad he only has the Xbox/PC fanbase which isnt good enough... Also they better get to work on KOTOR 3 soon, Mass Effect or not.. *imagines Mass Effect-like KOTOR with the graphix, huge worlds and a Wookie Jedi...yeah that would be the best...* --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
Samurai7 | Posted 10/19/2006 1:27:57 PM | message detail |
There won't be a KotOR 3 unless obsidian does it... Mass Effect is all ready slated to be a trilogy --- It's a sad fact that you had to derail this topic because you are afraid of the power of the PS3 -- cade |
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/19/2006 1:28:22 PM | message detail |
Zelda definitely looks stronger than she did last year. I would wager
she increased along with her ability to blowout fodder and maybe a bit
of Terra decreasing. --- "Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!" |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/19/2006 1:36:33 PM | message detail |
There's a difference between one rising with one (or two here) dropping
and an over-performance though -- I think that's just the safe way of
saying SFF in a smaller way...and I think if you give Terra an equally
strong opponent as Zelda, that same result happens. If that is how it
really is, then Carmen's still expected to get 41% on Kerrigan
statistically. --- http://wemajor12.myrockinprofile.com/ Next celebrity I hope to out-rank: Weird Al Yankovic (#9) |
wavedash101 | Posted 10/19/2006 1:39:43 PM | message detail |
KOTOR was also slated to be a trilogy and both games sold alot. If they
can find time for Jade Empire 2 (lol inferior game) they'll find it for
one of (and I believe THE) best selling series they have. And Lucasarts better not rush the damn development to meet a holiday release...the HK factory was cut out of KOTOR 2 cause of that...as well as any semblance of an ending to the game... --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
LeonhartForever | Posted 10/19/2006 1:41:22 PM | message detail |
and I think if you give Terra an equally strong opponent as Zelda, that same result happens Dante didn't do it. --- Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship: Round 2: (1) Solid Snake |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/19/2006 1:43:50 PM | message detail |
Who said Dante's on Zelda's level this year? --- http://wemajor12.myrockinprofile.com/ Next celebrity I hope to out-rank: Weird Al Yankovic (#9) |