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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/18/2006 9:09:42 PM | message detail
Meet me in the club. IT'S GOIN DOWN.



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, and thanks to RockMFR for finding the missing ones!
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games (down for now, so here's a new link):
http://transience.paragonsigma.com/top100.txt



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Chinballz | Posted 10/18/2006 9:12:34 PM | message detail
But what if it goes up?
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And that's The Word.
KingBartz | Posted 10/18/2006 9:21:43 PM | message detail
Meet me in the school?
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That was too close. You were almost a Jill sandwich.
SC2k6: 36/40 Today's pick: Zelda
MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/18/2006 10:45:08 PM | message detail
How is Mewtwo less known than any pokemon not named Pikachu?

Mewtwo's definitely up there, but I'd still argue the RBY starters and maybe Jigglypuff have more popularity than him.

Of course, this is GameFAQs, so who knows how much that would affect voters. RBY starters may tug their nostalgia, or Mewtwo could just get more votes from being badass.

Of course, the best thing to do would be to get Mewtwo and a RBY starter in the same contest and see what happens (as long as they don't face each other Round 1, which I wouldn't put past CJayC).
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Asians 5 | Blacks 3
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/18/2006 10:45:53 PM | message detail
Here, better.

Mewtwo
Fox
Wario
Mog
Rocket (DQ Heroes: Rocket Slime)
FFXII character (Vaan, I guess, but he looks so lame ;_;)
Midna (That's the TP character, right?)
Gato (He has metal joints)
Knuckles
Bomberman
Pac-Man
Shadow
Magus
Akuma
Vivi
PROJECT H.A.M.M.E.R. GUY



Wario and Mewtwo are top two we need next contest (barring Pac- or Bomber Men in SSBB). Wario has the potentially to boost hugely, and Mewtwo would just be interesting to see... and I think he's probably the strongest Pokemon... him or Charizard.

Mog and Rocket could test how much recognizability factors in... due to them being a Moogle and a Slime... it could be neato.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/18/2006 10:46:35 PM | message detail
I'd say Mewtwo being playable in SSBM solidifies him as the strongest pokemon.

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Ed Bellis | Posted 10/18/2006 10:46:41 PM | message detail
I don't know the Pokemon fanbase very well, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Mewtwo ended up strongest of all the Pokemon, even Pikachu. He's definitely got more casual appeal than any other Pokemon does, I'd think.
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Who Cares? | Posted 10/18/2006 10:46:59 PM | message detail
Going to bed now...I'll laugh so hard if KOS-MOS actually broke 40% before morning hits.
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Chun-Li's Road to the Female Final Four: vs Lara (October 21st) One down, two to go!
*Currently playing Tales of the Abyss*
transience | Posted 10/18/2006 10:47:29 PM | message detail
the one guy who needs to make next year's bracket is Akuma. well, him and Serge, but I've made my thoughts public on him making it for quite some time.
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xyzzy
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/18/2006 10:47:33 PM | message detail
I don't question for a moment that Mewtwo would be stronger than Pikachu. Pikachu is the face of Pokemon, but he gets pretty major hate.
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Xuxon | Posted 10/18/2006 10:47:52 PM | message detail
I'd guess Charizard is the most popular pokemon. Everyone went nuts over its card back in the day; it had the ultimate kiddy appeal, plus nostalgia now.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/18/2006 10:48:27 PM | message detail
Ye gods, who would win a female villain contest? The only female in the regular villains contest was Mother Brain (and that's stretching it), which means Kerrigan probably wouldn't be eligible. And the only villains in this bracket are...The Boss and Carmen Sandiago (I guess). Yikes.
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Mustache...and green...
http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Top100.pdf
Gaddswell | Posted 10/18/2006 10:48:40 PM | message detail
Hey, don't forget about Frog on your list. Him and Jill returning could make some more interesting matches next year.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/18/2006 10:48:43 PM | message detail
I traded a Mewtwo card for a Charizard card back in the day....
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Let the snow fall deep, the rain drive down, and the wind buffet my cloak. I care not for I've a road worth walking ~ Drizzt Do'Urden
Ed Bellis | Posted 10/18/2006 10:48:45 PM | message detail
Am I the only one that doesn't think Akuma would be all that great? I can't see him being stronger than any of the original 12 Street Fighter characters... well, maybe, y'know, Dhalsim, but you know what I mean.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/18/2006 10:49:17 PM | message detail
who would win a female villain contest?


Jenova.


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Let the snow fall deep, the rain drive down, and the wind buffet my cloak. I care not for I've a road worth walking ~ Drizzt Do'Urden
MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/18/2006 10:49:27 PM | message detail
I don't know, Charizard was THE card to have in the card game, had much more exposure in the Anime than Mewtwo, and is overall just much more badass-looking than Mewtwo, not to mention all the RBY players who likely chose Charmander and have fond memories of Charizard owning stuff.

I think Charizard could beat Mewtwo. All Mewtwo really has over Charizard is SSBM and maybe the movie.
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Hispanics 2 | Whites 5
Asians 5 | Blacks 3
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/18/2006 10:49:43 PM | message detail
1 - Mario 3
8 - Dragon Quest VIII

4 - Oblivion
5 - Castlevania: SOTN

3 - Goldeneye 007
6 - Fable

2 - Kingdom Hearts 2
7 - Contra


Very nice. Although the winner of the division is never in doubt, there is some good stuff with Goldeneye and Kingdom Hearts II. Oblivion might be worth something, too, but with SOTN being underrated last year, it seems pretty doubtful.


1 - OOT
8 - Gran Turismo 3

4 - Devil May Cry
5 - Mega Man X

3 - Final Fantasy X
6 - Mario Kart DS

2 - Starcraft
7 - Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow


I love that Ocarina of Time gets to maul everything in this division. DMC/MMX would have been great before the Series Contest, I think, but I would have complete confidence in MMX. Still, it's a great match-up that I bet a lot of people would be thrown for a loop on. FFX/SC in the second round is great as well.

1 - Halo 2
8 - Diablo 2

4 - Sonic 3 & Knuckles
5 - Mega Man 3

3 - Super Mario World
6 - Devil May Cry 3

2 - FF8
7 - Soul Calibur


...This whole division is pretty crazy. Halo 2/Diablo 2 should be good. S3&K/MM3 is another insane one -- though I favor MM3 quite a bit -- and Super Mario World against FFVIII is gold as well. ...Hell, that division doesn't even really have a clear winner.

1 - FF6
8 - Kirby Superstar

4 - Super Metroid
5 - World of Warcraft

3 - Metal Gear Solid
6 - Pac-Man

2 - Mario 64
7 - Tales of Symphonia


SM64/MGS is brilliant. SM/WoW is great, too, but it doesn't get much debate past that considering its second round opponent.

1 - GTA:SA
8 - Super Smash Brothers

4 - Final Fantasy 9
5 - Soul Calibur 2

3 - Zelda: MM
6 - Metal Gear Solid 2

2 - RE4
7 - Skies of Arcadia


Pretty much every damn match in this division is good. RE4 against MM/MGS2 is very nice; GTA/SSB is pretty good.

1 - LTTP
8 - Katamari Damacy

4 - Half-Life 2
5 - GTA: VC

3 - Pokemon Red
6 - Tetris

2 - Metal Gear Solid 3
7 - Sonic 2


Eh, not too much here that I really like. I suppose you have to have that one lesser division though.


1 - CT
8 - Donkey Kong Country 2

4 - Starfox 64
5 - Chrono Cross

3 - Halo
6 - Zelda 1

2 - Metroid Prime
7 - Super Mario RPG


SF64 and Chrono Cross is great. Halo/LoZ is damn awesome. MP/SMRPG is awesome considering that SMRPG could be underrated. The winner of that match against Halo/LoZ is crazy, too.

1 - SSBM
8 - Xenosaga Episode I

4 - Final Fantasy Tactics
5 - God of War

3 - Kingdom Hearts
6 - Mario Kart 64

2 - Mario 1
7 - Street Fighter 2


Most of this division seems pretty easy to me. SSBM wins it without trouble, GoW/FFT is great, KH/MK64 is good, SMB beats SF2, and then beats the winner of KH/MK64.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/18/2006 10:50:01 PM | message detail
1 - Mario 3
5 - Castlevania: SOTN
3 - Goldeneye 007
2 - Kingdom Hearts 2

1 - OOT
5 - Mega Man X
3 - Final Fantasy X
2 - Starcraft

1 - Halo 2
5 - Mega Man 3
3 - Super Mario World
2 - FF8

1 - FF6
4 - Super Metroid
3 - Metal Gear Solid
2 - Mario 64

8 - Super Smash Brothers
5 - Soul Calibur 2
3 - Zelda: MM
2 - RE4

1 - LTTP
5 - GTA: VC
3 - Pokemon Red
2 - Metal Gear Solid 3

1 - CT
5 - Chrono Cross
6 - Zelda 1
7 - Super Mario RPG

1 - SSBM
4 - Final Fantasy Tactics
3 - Kingdom Hearts
2 - Mario 1

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1 - Mario 3
2 - Kingdom Hearts 2

1 - OOT
2 - Starcraft

1 - Halo 2
3 - Super Mario World

1 - FF6
2 - Mario 64

8 - Super Smash Brothers
2 - RE4

1 - LTTP
2 - Metal Gear Solid 3

1 - CT
6 - Zelda 1

1 - SSBM
3 - Kingdom Hearts

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1 - Mario 3
1 - OOT
3 - Super Mario World
2 - Mario 64

8 - Super Smash Brothers
1 - LTTP
1 - CT
1 - SSBM

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1 - OOT
3 - Super Mario World

1 - LTTP
1 - CT

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1 - OOT
1 - LTTP
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CB5 Points: 39/42, Current Oracle placement: 37/163
Now playing: Okami
wavedash101 | Posted 10/18/2006 10:50:01 PM | message detail
I doubt Akuma beats M. Bison in strength...and thats not good for Akuma.
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Xuxon | Posted 10/18/2006 10:50:25 PM | message detail
Haha, female villians... JENOVA I would think.
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MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/18/2006 10:50:49 PM | message detail
And yeah, both are easily above Pikachu.

Hell, Nidoran F is probably above Pikachu.
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Hispanics 2 | Whites 5
Asians 5 | Blacks 3
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/18/2006 10:51:06 PM | message detail
FFXII character (Vaan, I guess, but he looks so lame ;_;)
Midna (That's the TP character, right?)


Balthier and Ashe will probably be much better than Vaan will be. He's going to be like Tidus except worse off.

And Midna is indeed the character from TP.

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"Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!"
Ed Bellis | Posted 10/18/2006 10:52:10 PM | message detail
All Mewtwo really has over Charizard is SSBM and maybe the movie.

To be fair, those are very big factors for Mewtwo. =P
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/18/2006 10:52:55 PM | message detail
Akuma would probably be above everyone but Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li, and M. Bison...

Really... I don't see E. Honda or Guile drawing a lot of votes.
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MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/18/2006 10:53:10 PM | message detail
And for my last post of the night, I'll nominate the guy from Bully.

I don't know anything about him, but it'd be an interesting nomination, considering all the media hype (though that won't help him next year). Of course he'll be fodder, but it'd still be interesting fodder.
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Hispanics 2 | Whites 5
Asians 5 | Blacks 3
Janus5000 | Posted 10/18/2006 10:53:40 PM | message detail
Charizard is better than Mewtwo in SSBM. >_>
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"Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything."
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Xuxon | Posted 10/18/2006 10:54:32 PM | message detail
It's true. Mewtwo is awful; Charizard kills people just by touching them!
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/18/2006 10:54:36 PM | message detail
Oh, I just remembered, Meta Knight and and Nightmare had some rallying going for them this year as well. With Meta Knight in SSBB, think he'll be able to get fairly close with Kirby?
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PokemonPatriarch | Posted 10/18/2006 10:55:17 PM | message detail
Mewtwo is the proven "most popular" Pokemon.

-He has virtually no hate, and no reason to get hate (Pikachu and Charizard are considered cheesy mascots of the game)
-He is always remembered as the badass ultimate Pokemon that would tear apart your opponents.
-Super Smash Bros. Melee
-Forms of media such as the TV show and first movie make him out to be something of an anti-hero.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/18/2006 10:55:54 PM | message detail
I hate Mewtwo.
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CB5 Points: 39/42, Current Oracle placement: 37/163
Now playing: Okami
transience | Posted 10/18/2006 10:56:24 PM | message detail
oh yeah, that bracket was FF7 vs. the winner at the end. it needs a lot of tweaking, especially given the results of the series contest. (Diablo 2 looked like Starcraft part 2 before FF laid the smackdown -- and it still might be, but 86% sure makes me think otherwise)
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xyzzy
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/18/2006 10:57:01 PM | message detail
In that case...

FFVII
OOT
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CB5 Points: 39/42, Current Oracle placement: 37/163
Now playing: Okami
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/18/2006 10:57:09 PM | message detail
Okay. Aeris is getting hammered right now.


1:35 -- 58.81%
1:40 -- 57.83%
1:45 -- 60.04%
1:50 -- 58.64%

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"Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!"
wavedash101 | Posted 10/18/2006 10:57:19 PM | message detail
I respected the Ultimate Uber man. And I bet in a head to head, Mewtwo curb stomps Charizard.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/18/2006 10:57:35 PM | message detail
It's too bad The Arbiter missed his best chance right after Halo 2... he could have been interesting...
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/18/2006 10:57:46 PM | message detail
KOS-MOWNAGE m i rite
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CB5 Points: 39/42, Current Oracle placement: 37/163
Now playing: Okami
transience | Posted 10/18/2006 11:00:57 PM | message detail
heh, KOS is gonna need to be stronger than Vivi.
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xyzzy
wavedash101 | Posted 10/18/2006 11:01:50 PM | message detail
I would laff if KOS-MOS hits 40%

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Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude!
Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down
NewLib | Posted 10/18/2006 11:13:18 PM | message detail
I like to defend the Villian's contest real quick. It did give us two of the better days that this board has seen.

PSYCHO CRUSHER!
ITS A ****ING HAND!!
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Z1mZum made me look like Toadette. And made me nominate her.
Haste_2 | Posted 10/18/2006 11:13:32 PM | message detail
KOS-MOS had a new game, yes, but I also think TJF is for real today.

Why are you guys almost unanimously picking Halo 2 over Starcraft? Wouldn't the sequel do slightly worse? Judging by the series contest, things seems a bit more in favor of Starcraft rather than Halo these days, seeing Halo lose and Warcraft win. MC lose to Sub-Zero, and I'm skeptical MC (Halo) is even as strong now as he was last year.

Nice game bracket, whoever did it...there are some nice potential upsets, like Metroid Prime/Super Mario RPG, or even the possibility of 8-seeded SSB winning its division.

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Xuxon | Posted 10/18/2006 11:17:24 PM | message detail
I picked H2, but I figured H2/SC was a tossup, whoever wins keeps winning til the division finals.
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transience | Posted 10/18/2006 11:18:37 PM | message detail
I think it's more of Starcraft being a one-time thing. if we see it again, people are going to overestimate the hell out of it because they're afraid of being burned.
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xyzzy
Gaddswell | Posted 10/19/2006 12:01:43 AM | message detail
Ouch, Aeris seems to be on the rise, and KOS-MOS lost the day vote to Amy (going from 70% at the start to 65.4% by the end). Will this match go over a doubling?
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/19/2006 12:03:47 AM | message detail
Considering that Aeris gained a 1% during the day and then lost it by the end of the match, I'm pretty sure this won't go too much further than it already has.

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"Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!"
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/19/2006 12:06:45 AM | message detail
In fact, KOS-MOS has never really given up too much during the day against any character she was up against (Luigi, Ryu). I think that was just Amy Rose benefiting from that great Sonic day vote.

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"Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!"
Kaxon | Posted 10/19/2006 1:26:22 AM | message detail
And I've got the ultimate Spring contest: The Female Villain Character Battle.

Is that even possible? I'm sure we'd get characters Tanner would blow out.


Oh god, don't let Ceej hear you say that.

Carmen Sandiego would win a match... maybe two!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/19/2006 1:35:10 AM | message detail
I think the original SF characters should have the most strength (the popular ones, that is).

Someone like Akuma won't outdo Bison.
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Jill vs. Peach / Bracket: Jill / Vote: Peach (36/38)
Tomorrow / Bracket: Zelda / Vote: Zelda
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/19/2006 1:38:10 AM | message detail
I'm really hoping XS3 was just really good to KOS.
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greatone10 | Posted 10/19/2006 1:39:24 AM | message detail
Hey, Gruntilda could finally get her chance to shine.
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Z1mZum made me look like Shadow Hearts in the Guru contest.