CNET Networks Entertainment GameSpot: PS3 - Wii | GameFAQs | Metacritic | MP3.com | TV.com

Home What's New Contribute Features Boards Help

GameFAQs Contests

advertisement

Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 396

wavedash101 | Posted 10/18/2006 9:23:55 PM | message detail
Well obviously. XSII killed off the series pretty much. XS1 actually sold well, enough to garner a GH anyways.
---
Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude!
Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down
transience | Posted 10/18/2006 9:24:11 PM | message detail
Fei won't crack the fodder line.. Serge has a much better chance of doing that. his game is just too old and past its prime.

I have nominated him and Citan every year since 2k3 though.. though I had to drop Fei this year because of the whole 7 noms thing.
---
xyzzy
Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/18/2006 9:24:53 PM | message detail
Xenogears still ranked quite highly in the Top 100 list. I don't quite buy that it's time has passed.

---
Let the snow fall deep, the rain drive down, and the wind buffet my cloak. I care not for I've a road worth walking ~ Drizzt Do'Urden
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/18/2006 9:25:11 PM | message detail
"Or do I only like it cause I am a big movie fan lol!!"

Wow, thanks for bringing us full circle there and making the obvious "bad movie" joke.
---
If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot.
If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/18/2006 9:25:23 PM | message detail
From YoAriel33 Posted 10/19/2006 12:23:07 AM
Regardless, I wouldn't take Aeris to beat Luigi after this match. After all the Aeris/Tifa debates we've had, it's weird to realize that one of them has such a clear edge in strength.

I coulda told you that before the contest. Though I had no idea it would be this bad. Good to see the useless whore being exposed.


TuRtLe
~~~
"Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy"- trancer1
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/18/2006 9:25:27 PM | message detail
Fei would be bottom of the barrel fodder if I had to venture a guess.
---
CB5 Points: 39/42, Current Oracle placement: 37/163
Now playing: Okami
KingBartz | Posted 10/18/2006 9:26:30 PM | message detail
xenogears SFFed by Xenogears?
---
That was too close. You were almost a Jill sandwich.
SC2k6: 36/40 Today's pick: Zelda
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/18/2006 9:26:40 PM | message detail
Serge would do terribly. If CC was released last month, I'd give him a great shot at breaking the fodder line.

As it is, he would be bottom of the barrel.


TuRtLe
~~~
"Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy"- trancer1
Draco1214 | Posted 10/18/2006 9:27:03 PM | message detail
I still maintain that Xenogears would be a low to decent midcarder in a games contest.

Now about its characters...eh...
---
Character Battle V Score - 35/40 points
Current Prediction - Zelda vs. Terra Branford
MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/18/2006 9:27:18 PM | message detail
I don't think the Xenogears guy would be insanely weak.

Sure, he'd get owned by Nidoran F, but he'd still get over 60% on Mr. Driller.
---
Hispanics 2 | Whites 5
Asians 5 | Blacks 3
YoAriel33 | Posted 10/18/2006 9:27:20 PM | message detail
As opposed to the useful whore?


jk guys, as you all know, I've never played FFVII. I only know most of these FF characters through Kingdom Hearts, but at least I like them now!
---
The Little Mermaid 2-Disc Platinum Edition DVD
Coming October 3, 2006
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/18/2006 9:28:08 PM | message detail
I think Citan would be the strongest possible 'gears character. And even then, he'd still preform pretty poorly against anyone.
---
CB5 Points: 39/42, Current Oracle placement: 37/163
Now playing: Okami
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/18/2006 9:28:09 PM | message detail
FFVII, you know what I mean.

And clearly this and Zero's performance all means that Sonic overperformed against Cloud in 2003 !!

Hopefully this will put a nail in the "Tifa/Vyse was an SFF fest!!!!!1111111111111" crew. I guarentee you if we ever see Vyse again, his value would be close to, if not smaller than his 2k5 value.

Forgettable characters like Vyse and KOS-MOS fall off the map without a steady influx of new games.


And see, this is where you go from a semi-good point to, "God, why do I ever bother listening to Turtle?"
---
*kills self*
Commit it to memory.
wavedash101 | Posted 10/18/2006 9:28:34 PM | message detail
I had always been under the impression that Xenogears was a relatively unpopular game with an ensemble cast...but after taking the fact that it beat Pokemon GSC with little trouble and was almost certainly SFFed by Xenogears, along with the fact that it does have a very obvious main character (why do people rally for Citan?), I think Fei could have a shot at cracking the fodder line.

Though XG's time may be past, and that could be a little much to ask.


Well Citan was just very likable and extremely good in combat. Sort of like the Magus of XG. And most XS fans like XG but many XG fans look down on XS as inferior. So XG character benefits from both fanbases, even if they overlap some. Plus XG sell way better than any game in the XS series. Its just that damn 2nd disk that brought it down...

I just want someone to get in just once to see how they would fair.

---
Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude!
Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down
MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/18/2006 9:28:41 PM | message detail
Serge would be a step above Xenogears guy in that if he faced Nidoran F, it'd be a toss-up who won.

I'd love to see a fodder character contest. I mean, besides the Villain/Female contests.
---
Hispanics 2 | Whites 5
Asians 5 | Blacks 3
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/18/2006 9:28:49 PM | message detail
"but at least I like them now!"

Psh! You should play FF7. Then you'd really like them, as they have substance there.
---
If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot.
If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/18/2006 9:29:01 PM | message detail
From Draco1214 Posted 10/19/2006 12:27:03 AM
I still maintain that Xenogears would be a low to decent midcarder in a games contest.

Now about its characters...eh...


I dunno. It beat G/S/C, but we have no idea whether or not that's an accomplishment at all. Which makes me wonder, how the hell did G/S/C get in instead of R/B/Y?

R/B/Y would've beaten XG


TuRtLe
~~~
"Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy"- trancer1
transience | Posted 10/18/2006 9:29:34 PM | message detail
Fei wouldn't be bottom of the barrel fodder, no. but I think he'd be about equal to Vyse. Xenogears isn't insanely weak or anything now, it just happened to get a good matchup with a game that got antivoted pretty heavily. it'd be at about the fodder line and I'd take a Pokemon game over it now.
---
xyzzy
Aprosenf | Posted 10/18/2006 9:29:52 PM | message detail
I'd love to see a fodder character contest. I mean, besides the Villain/Female contests.

Oh god, that'd be horrible. Are you a masochist or something?
---
If life gives you lemons, make lemonade. Then try to find someone whose life has given them vodka.
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/18/2006 9:30:09 PM | message detail
"Its just that damn 2nd disk that brought it down..."

And still better than the first couple of hours of XS.
---
If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot.
If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it.
Draco1214 | Posted 10/18/2006 9:30:16 PM | message detail
Xenogears ranked very close to the fodder line being behind a wall of SFF courtesy of FFVII. It could actually have some legitimate strength here.
---
Character Battle V Score - 37/42 points
Current Prediction - KOS-MOS vs. Aeris Gainsborough
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/18/2006 9:30:22 PM | message detail
Well Citan was just very likable and extremely good in combat. Sort of like the Magus of XG.

Yeah, but there's a reason why Magus is weaker than Crono. Citan has reason to be a lot closer to Fei, but I wouldn't imagine him being stronger.
---
*kills self*
Commit it to memory.
MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/18/2006 9:30:32 PM | message detail
Oh god, that'd be horrible. Are you a masochist or something?

Come on, who wouldn't love a Nidoran F/CATS final?
---
Hispanics 2 | Whites 5
Asians 5 | Blacks 3
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/18/2006 9:30:51 PM | message detail
Games =/= characters, though.

In a games contest, I could see 'gears doing ok. But characters...as much as I love the game, I just can't see it.
---
CB5 Points: 39/42, Current Oracle placement: 37/163
Now playing: Okami
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/18/2006 9:30:57 PM | message detail
And see, this is where you go from a semi-good point to, "God, why do I ever bother listening to Turtle?"

Name a niche character that only starred in 1 or 2 games that didn't fall completely off the map after not getting any games.


TuRtLe
~~~
"Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy"- trancer1
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/18/2006 9:31:29 PM | message detail
Name a niche character that only starred in 1 or 2 games that didn't fall completely off the map after not getting any games.

CRONO
---
*kills self*
Commit it to memory.
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/18/2006 9:31:33 PM | message detail
"how the hell did G/S/C get in instead of R/B/Y?"

People who are bigger fans of the series prefer it. The casual pokemon players that wouldn't nominate either are more likely to vote in favor of RBY, though.
---
If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot.
If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it.
MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/18/2006 9:31:53 PM | message detail
Name a niche character that only starred in 1 or 2 games that didn't fall completely off the map after not getting any games.

If you go mainstream, one could make a good argument for Crono.
---
Hispanics 2 | Whites 5
Asians 5 | Blacks 3
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/18/2006 9:32:46 PM | message detail
I guess that makes sense. Although I could see R/B/Y performing MUCH better.

And Crono is niche? Where the hell did you get that idea from??


TuRtLe
~~~
"Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy"- trancer1
transience | Posted 10/18/2006 9:32:57 PM | message detail
I think Citan would be stronger than Fei. to me it's more like Auron/Tidus - Citan is just superior to Fei in every way for a good chunk of the game. Fei spends a good amount of the game being reluctant and "emo". I like Fei quite a bit, but I can see why some people wouldn't like him.

Citan, though? you'd be hard-pressed to see someone like Fei but not him.
---
xyzzy
MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/18/2006 9:33:17 PM | message detail
And Crono is niche? Where the hell did you get that idea from??

He sure as hell isn't Mario.
---
Hispanics 2 | Whites 5
Asians 5 | Blacks 3
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/18/2006 9:33:19 PM | message detail
Yes, let us take into consideration what happens to FF6 characters. Xenogears would be the same way (except the characters would be reasonably closer to their game), leaving us with fodder characters who we can only be happy for in the fact that they even showed up.
---
If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot.
If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it.
Redtooth | Posted 10/18/2006 9:33:19 PM | message detail
Fodder contest for 2k7!

---
Z1mZum>Redtooth
Nice list, I counted twenty that would be in my top ten - BlondeAfroHero7
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/18/2006 9:33:48 PM | message detail

If you go mainstream, one could make a good argument for Crono.


CT is one of the most popular games on this site. It's a pretty memorable game.

Xenosaga is random PS2 RPG #342 that will fade into obscurity in a few years.


TuRtLe
~~~
"Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy"- trancer1
falcofan88 | Posted 10/18/2006 9:33:50 PM | message detail
KOS-MOS. EASILY.
---
Just watch 'Gnarkill88' on the leaderboard.
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/18/2006 9:34:05 PM | message detail
I'd vote Krelian over the rest of the cast >_>

Krelian > Bart > Citan > the rest
---
CB5 Points: 39/42, Current Oracle placement: 37/163
Now playing: Okami
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/18/2006 9:35:01 PM | message detail
Xenogears isn't really an ensemble cast game though, not like FF6 is. It has a very clearly defined main character, and the game more or less follows him throughout. I was actually shocked when I came to that realization, after all I'd heard about the characters being so weak. I expected Fei to be Terra 2.0.
---
*kills self*
Commit it to memory.
YoAriel33 | Posted 10/18/2006 9:35:14 PM | message detail
Fodder contest? I hope not...

Let's see, we've had games, villains, series, and (in a way) females. If CJayC still wants to introduce new contests, looks like either side characters or gaming systems are next on the list.
---
The Little Mermaid 2-Disc Platinum Edition DVD
Coming October 3, 2006
Draco1214 | Posted 10/18/2006 9:35:21 PM | message detail
Name a niche character that only starred in 1 or 2 games that didn't fall completely off the map after not getting any games.

Laharl
---
Character Battle V Score - 37/42 points
Current Prediction - KOS-MOS vs. Aeris Gainsborough
dragoontheguy | Posted 10/18/2006 9:35:31 PM | message detail
Forgettable characters like Vyse and KOS-MOS fall off the map without a steady influx of new games.


Here's my problem with that argument: Soa:l came out in early 2003. Why would vyse drop right the hell out of nowhere in 2005 and not 2004 if he's so forgettable, and is inclined to lose his popularity so quickly?
---
When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory!
MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/18/2006 9:36:34 PM | message detail
And unless you want to make a case for his being a hidden character in some of the portable games, Alucard is another example.
---
Hispanics 2 | Whites 5
Asians 5 | Blacks 3
transience | Posted 10/18/2006 9:37:03 PM | message detail
you heard that Xenogears characters were an ensemble cast and weak?

..who the heck were you talking to?

Xenogears would be the same way (except the characters would be reasonably closer to their game), leaving us with fodder characters who we can only be happy for in the fact that they even showed up.

I'd fit into the latter category. I wouldn't mind Fei getting quadded just to see how he did.
---
xyzzy
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/18/2006 9:37:11 PM | message detail
Aeris is starting to ramp up, here. It was fun while it lasted...
---
CB5 Points: 39/42, Current Oracle placement: 37/163
Now playing: Okami
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/18/2006 9:37:12 PM | message detail
Aeris looking to break 62% next update.


TuRtLe
~~~
"Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy"- trancer1
MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/18/2006 9:37:53 PM | message detail
A fodder contest would pretty much boil down to Final Fantasy vs Smash Bros. The only non Nintendo/Square character who could do anything would be Akuma.
---
Demyx > Axel
Z1mZum owned me in the Guru Contest with his mad skills!
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/18/2006 9:38:48 PM | message detail
From dragoontheguy Posted 10/19/2006 12:35:31 AM
Forgettable characters like Vyse and KOS-MOS fall off the map without a steady influx of new games.


Here's my problem with that argument: Soa:l came out in early 2003. Why would vyse drop right the hell out of nowhere in 2005 and not 2004 if he's so forgettable, and is inclined to lose his popularity so quickly?


I'd say it'd take more than a year to fade into obscurity. KOS-MOS could still do well next year, but unless she gets a new game, she's far below the fodder line in 2k8


TuRtLe
~~~
"Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy"- trancer1
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/18/2006 9:39:01 PM | message detail
We need another games contest before anything else. I wouldn't mind characters taking a break next year if we could get a June-ish Games Contest.

---
"Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!"
transience | Posted 10/18/2006 9:39:02 PM | message detail
oh, and Aeris vs. Zelda is going to start out being an absolute blowout. if Aeris is within 55% at the first freeze, I think she'll have enough to win that match. unfortunately she's probably going to be behind by a whole lot more, from bracket voting to the board vote favourite Nintendo to ff7 antivoting.
---
xyzzy
Draco1214 | Posted 10/18/2006 9:39:10 PM | message detail
I wonder if Fei would be stronger than Citan just because he's the main character. I'd wager that the popularity heirarchy of XG characters works like ToS, with Citan being the strongest.
---
Character Battle V Score - 37/42 points
Current Prediction - KOS-MOS vs. Aeris Gainsborough
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/18/2006 9:39:11 PM | message detail
From MegatokyoEd Posted 10/19/2006 12:37:53 AM
A fodder contest would pretty much boil down to Final Fantasy vs Smash Bros. The only non Nintendo/Square character who could do anything would be Akuma.

Protoman!


TuRtLe
~~~
"Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy"- trancer1