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| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/18/2006 11:22:51 AM | message detail |
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From WarThaNemesis Posted 10/18/2006 1:57:32 PM HM, I had thought Crono had only gotten 35% on Link, not 37%. I still think there is SLIGHT SFF in this match, but only 2% at max >_> SFF can't be used to explain small variations like that. It's either full-blow, 5% difference SFF, or it's a negligible factor. TuRtLe ~~~ 35/40 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/18/2006 11:23:36 AM | message detail |
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Squall can't beat Snake because of a clear SFF between FF and Metal Gear? Remember how Aeris evaded SFF against Snake? Has anything, err, EVER SFFed FFVII? --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/18/2006 11:26:01 AM | message detail |
| How did Luigi really exceede expectations. With
the strength he was finally able to show off last year (yay for not
being behing SFF for the first time) and the fact that MM characters
suffer heavy SFF from Nintendo characters that are stronger than them
(Mario vs. Zero!!) it makes perfect sense. --- If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot. If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it. |
| WarThaNemesis | Posted 10/18/2006 11:26:47 AM | message detail |
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Except that last yearZero was stronger than Luigi. --- War13104 had something weak beating something strong and he looks smarter than you or something - TessaTestarossa |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/18/2006 11:28:37 AM | message detail |
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| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/18/2006 11:28:44 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, if a SFFed Zero is still above Luigi's ranking in 2k5, that
definitely looks even better for Luigi. I don't think there's any major
SFF going on with Zero, and that we've either got a Luigi boost/Zero
drop/combo of both. Zero just doesn't seem to be susceptible to
SFF...if Mega Man couldn't do it, I wonder if anyone can. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| transience | Posted 10/18/2006 11:28:56 AM | message detail |
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if you were to make a case for Snake being part of the Square fanbase,
it'd go something like FF7 > CT > Metal Gear Solid > FF8 >
KH > FF10 > etc etc. that's how popular the games are here and
clears up Solid Snake / Frog a wee bit. it would also help explain why
Aeris didn't get beat down while Sora did. it's all unfounded, but in a
week we'll be able to see what happens to Squall. also, lol nintendo boost x 2 --- xyzzy |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/18/2006 11:30:12 AM | message detail |
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For some reason I thought he was adjusted in the stats. --- If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot. If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/18/2006 11:30:25 AM | message detail |
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KH > FF10 Uh Tidus v. Riku who ya got --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| transience | Posted 10/18/2006 11:31:23 AM | message detail |
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I could seriously see that being a tossup. but, Tidus. now, Sora vs. Tidus? I'll be amazed if anyone debates that at this point. --- xyzzy |
| TehMissingLink | Posted 10/18/2006 11:31:35 AM | message detail |
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Zero was actually predicted to beat Luigi with 51.2% last year. I'm not
sure there was much "SFF" in that match this year. I think you could
just say Luigi boosted and Zero dropped some and there's your result. --- "Thank You Mario! But our Princess is in another castle!" |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/18/2006 11:33:25 AM | message detail |
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CT won't SFF MGS because they aren't on the same system. There actually
has to be some relevant link between the two things for their to be
SFF. FF7/CT same company. FF7/MGS same system. --- If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot. If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/18/2006 11:34:11 AM | message detail |
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CT/MGS - both have main characters part of the Noble Nine >_> <_< --- CB5 Points: 37/40, Current Oracle placement: 38/163 Now playing: Okami |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/18/2006 11:34:29 AM | message detail |
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But here's the thing -- you can have certain characters boost and not
have the whole company boost with you. You just don't leap to that
conclusion, which is why the Nintendo Boost was so shocking to most. Link boosted significantly in 2004 to regain his crown, yet Mario got his ass handed to him by Crono by over 6000 votes. Next year Mario does Crono in even worse than he did last year, but Link? Barely budges. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/18/2006 11:35:07 AM | message detail |
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"now, Sora vs. Tidus? I'll be amazed if anyone debates that at this point." I'd have been amazed if anyone tried to debate it last year, but I'm sure someone would have. --- If this post was overly verbose, that means I tried very hard to not call you an idiot. If you mark someone for flaming/trolling, you probably deserved it. |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/18/2006 11:35:33 AM | message detail |
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But here's the thing -- you can have certain characters boost and
not have the whole company boost with you. You just don't leap to that
conclusion, which is why the Nintendo Boost was so shocking to most. Exactly. You can't say it much better than that. --- "Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!" |
| consolefreak | Posted 10/18/2006 11:35:35 AM | message detail |
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I think this performance is enough for her to solidify her position as the second strongest female in the bracket though. I don't know. Even if Zelda ends with 80%, she still loses to Tifa if Celes = Terra. Of course, that's not accounting for any SFF (or the SFF being proportionally split). Zelda > Tifa would baffle me. I just don't see it happening this year. if you were to make a case for Snake being part of the Square fanbase, it'd go something like FF7 > CT > Metal Gear Solid > FF8 > KH > FF10 > etc etc. that's how popular the games are here and clears up Solid Snake / Frog a wee bit. it would also help explain why Aeris didn't get beat down while Sora did. it's all unfounded, but in a week we'll be able to see what happens to Squall. SFFing still depends on the character though. Chrono Trigger might SFF MGS a little (though I kinda doubt it), but Frog Snake? No way. --- CB: 38/40. Today: Zelda vs. Terra. Tomorrow: KOS-MOS vs. Aeris. |
| consolefreak | Posted 10/18/2006 11:37:06 AM | message detail |
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That is, Tifa - The Boss SFF. --- CB: 38/40. Today: Zelda vs. Terra. Tomorrow: KOS-MOS vs. Aeris. |
| consolefreak | Posted 10/18/2006 11:38:13 AM | message detail |
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Also, I'd be careful putting KH over FFX on the SFF chain. I don't think Auron - Sora would be very flattering for Sora. --- CB: 38/40. Today: Zelda vs. Terra. Tomorrow: KOS-MOS vs. Aeris. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/18/2006 11:39:24 AM | message detail |
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Has anything, err, EVER SFFed FFVII? Aw, I realized that before I posted it, but I just thought maybe nobody would think of that, anyway...=p Too bad people here aren't nearly as naive as they were a few years ago. --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/18/2006 11:42:47 AM | message detail |
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Cait Sith/Tidus? --- http://wemajor12.myrockinprofile.com/ Next celebrity I hope to out-rank: Weird Al Yankovic (#9) |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/18/2006 11:42:58 AM | message detail |
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I don't know. Even if Zelda ends with 80%, she still loses to Tifa
if Celes = Terra. Of course, that's not accounting for any SFF (or the
SFF being proportionally split). I really don't think that Celes = Terra. I never even thought that was going to be the case before the contest started. She'll probably be quite a bit weaker than Terra in the end. Zelda > Tifa would baffle me. I just don't see it happening this year. I would have taken Zelda over Tifa this year were there the opportunity. I have doubts about how much Tifa got from KH2 and I was always kind of anticipating Zelda being stronger this year without reason. Perhaps it's that whole female bracket thing. --- "Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!" |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/18/2006 11:54:07 AM | message detail |
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Tifa is the silent killer to me...I wouldn't be surprised to see her
outrank Squall and Vincent thanks to KH2 (though I wouldn't bet on it).
It seems more likely to me since I take her in a match against Auron
pre-KH2 -- and I think he'll be pretty close to them as is -- but
it's...y'know...Tifa. Her outranking characters like Vincent just screams wrong. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/18/2006 11:55:42 AM | message detail |
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Then again, Auron may beat her down today for the sole reason that his role in KH2 was infinitely cooler and more badass. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/18/2006 12:06:27 PM | message detail |
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I remember telling Tran Man that Zelda's best time had yet to come last
night and how she would be pulling consistent 80%+ updates. Now take a
look at her!! 14:50 -- 81.56% 14:55 -- 80.27% 15:00 -- 81.91% 15:05 -- 83.68% Oh yes!! --- "Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!" |
| MyworldisSmurf | Posted 10/18/2006 12:08:26 PM | message detail |
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Nobody cares about Zelda. Give it a rest. --- Smurf The cream of Sonic Fanboyism. smurf. forever inferior to harmonica. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/18/2006 12:08:36 PM | message detail |
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Good Lord FF6 sucks with the day vote. I no longer feel ashamed of Snake. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/18/2006 12:09:09 PM | message detail |
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This is brutal. Damn you CJayC! Tifa gets her menu pic, why not Terra? :( --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/18/2006 12:17:58 PM | message detail |
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Zelda > Samus is more likely than Vincent > Sonic. --- Demyx > Axel Z1mZum owned me in the Guru Contest with his mad skills! |
| consolefreak | Posted 10/18/2006 12:22:11 PM | message detail |
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I really don't think that Celes = Terra. I never even thought that
was going to be the case before the contest started. She'll probably be
quite a bit weaker than Terra in the end. Why is that? Aren't they both the main character? Terra only scored 1% better on the favourite FFVI character poll. I would have taken Zelda over Tifa this year were there the opportunity. Knowing TP's late release? I have doubts about how much Tifa got from KH2 and I was always kind of anticipating Zelda being stronger this year without reason. Perhaps it's that whole female bracket thing. I could see Zelda boosting. But boosting more for no apparent reason than Tifa, who got her first Kingdom Hearts role and Advent Children? Those things should give her a rather massive boost. Remember 75% of this site has seen AC and Tifa was pretty awesome and very prominent. I'm very impressed with Zelda today, and I'm pretty sure she'll beat Aeris, but Tifa? That's a whole different story now. I would be very, very surprised to see her ending up stronger than Tifa this year. Then again, with the possibility of Samus-Zelda SFF, we may never know. --- CB: 38/40. Today: Zelda vs. Terra. Tomorrow: KOS-MOS vs. Aeris. |
| consolefreak | Posted 10/18/2006 12:22:40 PM | message detail |
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Zelda > Samus is more likely than Vincent > Sonic. Er no. Not by a longshot. --- CB: 38/40. Today: Zelda vs. Terra. Tomorrow: KOS-MOS vs. Aeris. |
| MyworldisSmurf | Posted 10/18/2006 12:23:28 PM | message detail |
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They're both impossible. --- Smurf The cream of Sonic Fanboyism. smurf. forever inferior to harmonica. |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/18/2006 12:23:43 PM | message detail |
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By the gods, look at Zelda. Zelda > Samus is more likely than Vincent > Sonic. Agreed! I'd rather bank on Zelda pulling some crazy SFF action than Vincent being legitimately stronger than Sonic. --- The Little Mermaid 2-Disc Platinum Edition DVD Coming October 3, 2006 |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/18/2006 12:24:53 PM | message detail |
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What Yo said. --- CB5 Points: 37/40, Current Oracle placement: 38/163 Now playing: Okami |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/18/2006 12:27:02 PM | message detail |
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Aren't they both the main character? Celes doesn't attain "main character status" until over half-way through the game. And if FF6 is anything like FF7, where according to that poll, a quarter of the people who played it never even beat it, they may not even have gotten that far. --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/18/2006 12:28:38 PM | message detail |
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Not to mention that the story practically just... stops at the time Celes is the main character X_X --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
| consolefreak | Posted 10/18/2006 12:29:46 PM | message detail |
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Vincent > Sonic is far from impossible, and not even farfetched, really. --- CB: 38/40. Today: Zelda vs. Terra. Tomorrow: KOS-MOS vs. Aeris. |
| HoorayProxies | Posted 10/18/2006 12:30:00 PM | message detail |
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Agreed! I'd rather bank on Zelda pulling some crazy SFF action than Vincent being legitimately stronger than Sonic. I'd rather bank on Ganon being underrated last year thanks to Samus/Mario, Vincent still beating him pretty nicely thanks to DoC, and that putting him on the level of Sonic, rather than 10% of rSFF. --- Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies! |
| MyworldisSmurf | Posted 10/18/2006 12:31:06 PM | message detail |
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Ganon. The beast who barely slayed Tidus and scored a healthy 7% less on Alucard than Auron. And Vincent beat this maniac????? Sonic is so screwed. --- Smurf The cream of Sonic Fanboyism. smurf. forever inferior to harmonica. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/18/2006 12:32:28 PM | message detail |
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Smurf: truth to the masses. --- http://wemajor12.myrockinprofile.com/ Next celebrity I hope to out-rank: Weird Al Yankovic (#9) |
| HoorayProxies | Posted 10/18/2006 12:33:11 PM | message detail |
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While you're at it, why don't you just use Ganon's unadjusted value from Link. lol smurf --- Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies! |
| consolefreak | Posted 10/18/2006 12:33:39 PM | message detail |
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Ganon. The beast who barely slayed Tidus and scored a healthy 7% less on Alucard than Auron. And Vincent beat this maniac????? Sonic is so screwed. Or maybe you mean Ganon, the beast who broke 40% on Sephiroth? Ganon loses to Sonic 45.5-54.5 based on their performances on Diablo. Vincent covered the first 2.5, and the rest could be covered by any combination of Sonic dropping a little, bracket voting wearing off in the second round (Vincent got 52.5 despite 39% bracket support), AC and DoC. --- CB: 38/40. Today: Zelda vs. Terra. Tomorrow: KOS-MOS vs. Aeris. |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 10/18/2006 12:37:59 PM | message detail |
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This year we've had Vincent > Ganondorf Okay, but Dirge of Cerberus and Advent Children. Yoshi underperforming on Riku Kingdom Hearts II Kirby underperforming on PoP Okay. Falcon disappointing against Crono Says who? He didn't get tripled, it is Captain Falcon after all. Bowser underperforming on Leon Yeah, but RE4 on the PS2. and Princess Peach barely getting by Jill Valentine. Hey, Jill Valentine is no chump, it was still an impressive win. As much a supporter of her that I was, she never was going to be a powerhouse. Nintendo characters are doing okay; there were mitigating circumstances in a few of those matches. --- Revenge is a dish best served by Z1mZum in the 2k6 Series Guru Contest. |
| HoorayProxies | Posted 10/18/2006 12:40:29 PM | message detail |
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No one is saying they dropped, just that they didn't increase. If they
did, they'd be looking a lot better right now. The only people that
looked good were Zelda and Luigi. Zelda has had two matches against
total fodder, and Luigi had a match with Zero, who has been on the
decline, and there's plenty of reason to think he dropped again, tie in
the smallest of Luigi gains, and there you go. --- Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies! |
| Draco1214 | Posted 10/18/2006 12:42:01 PM | message detail |
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Kingdom Hearts II Considering people were taking Yoshi over a force like Dante, Yoshi's performance against Riku was underwhelming to say the least. Yoshi has to hope that Riku is able to 60-40 the guy he lost to last year in order to have a shot at Dante, which I think is unlikely, to say the least. --- Character Battle V Score - 35/40 points Current Prediction - Zelda vs. Terra Branford |
| HoorayProxies | Posted 10/18/2006 12:44:02 PM | message detail |
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Don't bother with that, falcon has deluded himself to the point of thinking Yoshi > Dante is a lock. --- Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies! |
| consolefreak | Posted 10/18/2006 12:45:03 PM | message detail |
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Yoshi - Riku may have been pretty disappointing to some, but Dante
should have been the favourite to begin with. Statistically, he was by
far. --- CB: 38/40. Today: Zelda vs. Terra. Tomorrow: KOS-MOS vs. Aeris. |
| HoorayProxies | Posted 10/18/2006 12:45:44 PM | message detail |
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BUT CAN'T BE WORSE THAN LUIGI THINK OF THE HORROR. --- Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies! |
| consolefreak | Posted 10/18/2006 12:46:37 PM | message detail |
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BUT CAN'T BE WORSE THAN LUIGI THINK OF THE HORROR. The favourite Nintendo poll may not be very accurate, it does show some potential SFF in favour of Yoshi. --- CB: 38/40. Today: Zelda vs. Terra. Tomorrow: KOS-MOS vs. Aeris. |
| HoorayProxies | Posted 10/18/2006 12:46:40 PM | message detail |
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Dante > Snake > Vincent > Sonic > Fecal Matter > BT --- Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies! |