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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 391

Xuxon | Posted 10/17/2006 2:33:53 AM | message detail
This is a school day. The morning vote generally comes fairly soon. About an hour, hour and a half from now.
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Terran | Posted 10/17/2006 2:35:12 AM | message detail
True, at the same time (and I don't know at all) wouldn't that give Jill a second wind while most are at school? Say between 12-3?

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Xuxon | Posted 10/17/2006 2:40:42 AM | message detail
Yeah, and it's a little longer than that. Something like 9:30-2:30.

Jill now has a lead larger than Peach's largest. Too bad it only took her like two and a half times as long to build.
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NewLib | Posted 10/17/2006 2:41:21 AM | message detail
Yes.

Claire didnt even get the lead until the during school vote.
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SmurfFAQs | Posted 10/17/2006 2:42:42 AM | message detail
That second wind was by far Claire's strongest time. I'd expect Jill to rack up another 1000 votes during that time.
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SmurfFAQs | Posted 10/17/2006 2:46:56 AM | message detail
500 barrier broken and she'll soon be over 51%.
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Terran | Posted 10/17/2006 2:51:31 AM | message detail
Jill got over 57% of the vote over the last thirty minutes. It's hard to believe that her second wind would be much stronger then that. Of course given how quickly Peach got her 400+ vote lead in the beginning of the contest, it still might not be enough...

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Xuxon | Posted 10/17/2006 2:58:40 AM | message detail
And Peach wins her first update in almost 3 hours. By one vote.
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SmurfFAQs | Posted 10/17/2006 3:01:45 AM | message detail
And Jill's over 51% now.
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Xuxon | Posted 10/17/2006 3:03:42 AM | message detail
Heh, looks like the updater missed that one vote gain by Peach and it's now back in synch.
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SmurfFAQs | Posted 10/17/2006 3:04:50 AM | message detail
lol Peach. YOU WON NOTHING!
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Terran | Posted 10/17/2006 3:07:57 AM | message detail
Peach got that update by 7 votes.

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Giggsalot | Posted 10/17/2006 3:15:23 AM | message detail
stall'd
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/17/2006 3:32:49 AM | message detail
If Peach makes no progress within the next 20 minutes, I may actually call Jill the favorite in this match O_o
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/17/2006 3:33:59 AM | message detail
Yes, but n00b, don't forget the afterschool vote. Jill sucks with it.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/17/2006 3:45:40 AM | message detail
Hmm... yeah. I underestimated Jill's bad after school vote.

In this match, she averaged about 55% with her best time in the night. Vs. Sheena, she averaged almost 66% in that time.

But with the after school vote against Sheena, that fell all the way to 57%. So Peach just has to be as good as Sheena with the after school vote to start getting 53% to 54% of the after school vote.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/17/2006 3:52:25 AM | message detail
And... looks like she's losing it.
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SmurfFAQs | Posted 10/17/2006 3:57:09 AM | message detail
You were saying? n_n
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/17/2006 3:57:54 AM | message detail
Bah, just wait until the afterschool vote. This is Kairi/Claire all over again, just an earlier lead.
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SmurfFAQs | Posted 10/17/2006 4:49:03 AM | message detail
A 100 vote gain?
Yes, I'm sure Jill is shaking with fear at that morning vote. -_-
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/17/2006 4:50:28 AM | message detail
The morning vote is usually only half as effective as the after school vote. The fact that Peach was able to cut into the lead just in the morning should be cause for concern for anyone holding out for Jill here
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/17/2006 4:50:38 AM | message detail
Jill has done well for herself here...better was possible, but I'm sure Jill will take this. I figure Peach will have the lead when I get back to a computer (about 1:00 Eastern), but with a close match it's iffy to try to predict patterns exactly. I will go ahead and call that Peach will have the lead again at some point this match.
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EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 10/17/2006 4:51:04 AM | message detail
Hot damn! I really wanted to be around last night for this match, looks like it would have been fun. Damn good match so far, but I can't help but favor Peach despite the 450 vote lead by Jill.

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SmurfFAQs | Posted 10/17/2006 4:53:42 AM | message detail
Peach was going 50-50 for most of the morning vote, only scoring a few small wins with the cutting edge of the morning vote.

Which is only about a third as effective as Kairi was with it, and Peach certainly doesn't have the force in the day vote that Kairi has either.

If Jill can go over, maybe 1200. I'd say that's game over.
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Terran | Posted 10/17/2006 4:53:46 AM | message detail
Jill has made moderate gains for the past three updates. I doubt the morning vote is over but all-in-all it's been reasonably mild. Still, Jill doesn't have much of a lead to support her if Peach starts to break out with any force.

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/17/2006 4:55:02 AM | message detail
It's not even 8:00 Eastern, I don't think it's fair to call it the morning vote yet...unless we're talking about real early hours, in which case, **** semantics, heh.
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SmurfFAQs | Posted 10/17/2006 4:55:28 AM | message detail
Another intresting point is that Sheena performed twice as well with the morning vote than Peach did.
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SmurfFAQs | Posted 10/17/2006 4:57:01 AM | message detail
It's not even 8:00 Eastern, I don't think it's fair to call it the morning vote yet...unless we're talking about real early hours, in which case, **** semantics, heh.

By this time, Kairi had stopped dealing damage to Claire and they had started going 50-50 again. Sheena also stopped making % gains at this time.

Whatever time you want to call it, Jill's weak time is over.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/17/2006 5:01:48 AM | message detail
Peach was going 50-50 for most of the morning vote, only scoring a few small wins with the cutting edge of the morning vote.

Which is only about a third as effective as Kairi was with it,




Uh, what?

Peach went from 45% of the vote in the night vote prior to the morning, to just over 51% with the morning vote. That's a pretty damn impressive swing.


To compare, Claire was only getting 52.5% in the night prior to the morning vote, and was reduced to 47.5%.

The swings are almost equally impressive, but Peach actually has outdone Kairi a little here.

Also

Another intresting point is that Sheena performed twice as well with the morning vote than Peach did.

No. Sheena only went from 66% to 63.5% from the night to the morning. That pales in comparison to both Jill and Kairi

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/17/2006 5:06:24 AM | message detail
The lead isn't going to hold, but WOO JILL!
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Terran | Posted 10/17/2006 5:07:04 AM | message detail
I think your comparing the swings and he was just comparing raw data? If Peach swings from 45% to 51% while Claire-related swing was from 47.5% to 52.5%, that may be a bigger swing for Peach, but it's still better in the Claire match seeing as you'd rather have 52.5% then 51%.

To put it another way, it's not as helpful if Peach just overcomes more if she had more to overcome to begin with.

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PlatinumSmurf | Posted 10/17/2006 5:09:56 AM | message detail
She may have swung at lot, but with her supposedly most impressive time, she was still only barely making gains.

Which wasn't even nearly as good as Kairi's and Peach doesn't have a forceful day vote to rely on either.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/17/2006 5:21:25 AM | message detail
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/17/2006 5:21:55 AM | message detail
I made a lot of typos making that last post I was in a hurry. Sorry.

Anyway, I think you should also take into account the fact that going off of Jill Vs. Sheena, the morning vote was also one of Jill's best times. She only did a little bit worse with it than the night. Then she dropped off massively in the after-school vote, which was her worst time by FAR.
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Terran | Posted 10/17/2006 5:29:39 AM | message detail
Is there much relation between Tales of Symphonia/Sheena and Super Mario Bros/Princess Peach in terms of voters? And consider how much Jill won that match by, even just comparing the drops/rises in percentages, can you really take much from the Sheena/Jill match either way?

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EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 10/17/2006 5:31:21 AM | message detail
It's Smurf, people need to learn how to ignore him. None of his arguments can be taken seriously, so stop taking him seriously.

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charmander6000 | Posted 10/17/2006 5:32:38 AM | message detail
Why are people comparing this to Kairi/Claire when it looks more like Hayabusa/Jill.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/17/2006 5:33:16 AM | message detail
Well, you can take something.

% swings are fairly consistent regardless of what the overall % is.

and with the massive drop in overall performance Jill took in Sheena, you'd either have to view Sheena as someone who can give Master Chief a run for their money in the day, or you can attribute some of it to Jill just sucking then.

Regardless of the relation between Peach and Sheena which we don't know, a drop from 66% in the night, to 63.5% in the morning to 57% after school isn't going to look good for her. Although, it's not like you can conclude for a fact that things will go like that. It's just an indicator.
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Terran | Posted 10/17/2006 5:36:02 AM | message detail
Why are people comparing this to Kairi/Claire when it looks more like Hayabusa/Jill.

Perhaps, though again, what relation in terms of fanbase/voters does the character from Dead or Alive have with Princess Peach or Mario Bros? To me it seems like the only thing they have in common is they both had close matches against Jill through 8:30am, and that alone doesn't mean that one will follow the same pattern as the other.

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Who Cares? | Posted 10/17/2006 5:37:27 AM | message detail
So I see Jill is in the lead, very good for her. If this match continues to follow Kairi/Claire trends, then she should have an opportunity to build the lead as close to 1,000 as she can before the afterschool vote hits. From there it's all about how good Peach will be with it!
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PlatinumSmurf | Posted 10/17/2006 5:40:05 AM | message detail
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The 15 karma alt speaks all manner of truths. <_<
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params7 | Posted 10/17/2006 5:40:09 AM | message detail
great to see Jill leading, really is. Hope she takes this one.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/17/2006 5:40:31 AM | message detail
I'm just saying that Peach won't be getting anywhere as strong of a day vote as Kairi will and she will probably be coming back by more. If you keep at looking at Kairi/Claire Kairi stopped making her morning gains at 9am.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/17/2006 5:41:10 AM | message detail

The 15 karma alt speaks all manner of truths. <_<


That no one should take you seriously? Yeah, I agree.

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PlatinumSmurf | Posted 10/17/2006 5:42:14 AM | message detail
Kairi made a swing of 4500 with the day vote.
What's the max damage Peach can do? 2000?
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/17/2006 5:42:44 AM | message detail
You say that like 2,000 wouldn't be far more than enough.

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PlatinumSmurf | Posted 10/17/2006 5:42:48 AM | message detail
The 19 karma alt furthers my point.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/17/2006 5:47:05 AM | message detail
*looks at Smurf's karma*
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/17/2006 5:48:22 AM | message detail
If this match does follow Clare Vs. Kairi, then Jill should get almost 54% of the vote after the day vote ends all the way til school starts. And if she does manage to do that, she'd be looking at a 2000+ lead by the time the school vote hits.

Although, given how Peach's morning vote swing was more impressive than Kairi's, I doubt Peach will let Jill get quite that much on her.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 10/17/2006 5:50:25 AM | message detail
¬_¬ Well karma doesn't matter for me because everybody knows who I am....
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