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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 390

ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/16/2006 1:51:58 PM | message detail
Zero looks like he lines up pretty well with his score last year.

But take into consideration these factors:

He faced Mario last year
He faced Luigi this year
MM has proven that he has SFF to contend with in regards to Nintendo characters (See: Link, possibly Yoshi)
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/16/2006 1:52:23 PM | message detail
So, what potential sff matches are there left in the contest in everyones opinion? I don't know about the rest of the contest, but for this round it seems like kirby vs. luigi is the only possibility left.

Luigi/Kirby and maybe Snake/Squall depending on how that goes. Maybe not SFF, but Snake overperforming more than he should has been tossed around a lot. Other than that, I can't think of anything.

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transience | Posted 10/16/2006 1:54:02 PM | message detail
Samus/Zelda has potential SFF. Sonic/Luigi could be weird if Mario/Shadow is any indication, but that's questionable at best. Crono/Auron could be interesting.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/16/2006 1:54:56 PM | message detail
"Sonic/Luigi could be weird if Mario/Shadow is any indication,"

I'd like to see Luigi put the fear into Sonic.
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/16/2006 1:56:10 PM | message detail
I'd like to see Zelda crack 45% with some hardcore rSFF !!


I forgot about Crono/Auron, but that should be pretty interesting to see.

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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 10/16/2006 1:56:37 PM | message detail
SFF matches eh?

Well, Mega Man/Samus will likely be fishy (since of course it is going to happen).

Luigi/Kirby and Luigi/Sonic are the only other ones I could think of. Samus/Zelda might be wierd, but I really don't think Samus/Ganon is that wierd, unless Ganon just sucks as bad as Samus does with SFF, in which case Zelda should do better, so she might get an overperformance.
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LordOfDabu | Posted 10/16/2006 1:56:39 PM | message detail
Sometimes I think characters have a minimum percentage threshold that they'll always obtain no matter who they face (with a few SFF exceptions). That is, any character at a certain tier or above is going to get roughly the same percentage against them.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/16/2006 1:58:18 PM | message detail
You would think so, but the past has indicated that isn't really so. And, due to characters like Vyse it almost seems as if the reverse is more likely. Heh.
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/16/2006 2:02:33 PM | message detail
Aeris vs. Yuna? o_O;

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/16/2006 2:04:11 PM | message detail
I would suggest Aeris v. Yuna, but fortunately Chun-Li winning her division is going to put all our minds at ease.
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transience | Posted 10/16/2006 2:04:47 PM | message detail
yeah, Aeris/Yuna could be ugly. TAKE THAT ZELDA
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/16/2006 2:05:06 PM | message detail
I would suggest Aeris v. Yuna were it not for the fact that Zelda is going to be beating Aeris!

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/16/2006 2:07:19 PM | message detail
Correct, HM!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/16/2006 2:08:59 PM | message detail
Seeing you guys place your faith in yet ANOTHER doomed Zelda character makes my heart go out to you.

With laughter. HA. HA. HA. HA. HA. HA. HA. HA.
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/16/2006 2:09:11 PM | message detail
No one expects... Aeris vs. Chun Li!

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/16/2006 2:10:31 PM | message detail
*Aeris VS Joanna Dark
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/16/2006 2:11:53 PM | message detail
Seeing you guys place your faith in yet ANOTHER doomed Zelda character makes my heart go out to you.

It's going to be fantastic when Zelda is beating Aeris, placing above both FFVII females, Ganon is extremely close to Sonic, and Link beats Cloud worse than he ever has!

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transience | Posted 10/16/2006 2:12:50 PM | message detail
I'd expect Tifa to place comfortably above Zelda in the stats if Zelda beats Aeris.
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/16/2006 2:14:44 PM | message detail
Pfft! Zelda's going to outperform Tifa against a direct opponent!

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/16/2006 2:17:41 PM | message detail
It could (and probably will) all depend on the Samus/Zelda SFF. There's no doubt in my mind that if Ganon, the ultimate leech, can break 40%, a stronger Zelda can avoid SFF altogether and even rSFF Samus. Seeing Zelda hit 45% wouldn't surprise me at all.
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/16/2006 2:18:48 PM | message detail
This match saddens me :( I was hoping The Boss could at least avoid a tripling.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/16/2006 2:18:54 PM | message detail
You crazy cats. Talking about 2002 stats is more relevant than a Samus/Zelda match that will never happen!
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transience | Posted 10/16/2006 2:28:08 PM | message detail
It could (and probably will) all depend on the Samus/Zelda SFF. There's no doubt in my mind that if Ganon, the ultimate leech, can break 40%, a stronger Zelda can avoid SFF altogether and even rSFF Samus. Seeing Zelda hit 45% wouldn't surprise me at all.

who says Zelda does any better vs. Link? I think people read into that Link/Ganon match more than they should. no, I don't think Zelda will suddenly rSFF Samus. if that were the case, people should have picked her to win the match when they thought Twilight Princess would be out.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/16/2006 2:38:32 PM | message detail
It's certainly not a guarantee; it's more of a gut feeling that Zelda will do better with regards to SFF. If I ask who the stats topic (or the board in general) would take in a Ganon/Zelda match, I'd be pretty surprised if there were more than a select few Ganon supporters.
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/16/2006 2:39:53 PM | message detail
Really? I always assumed Ganondorf would be favored there. Maybe not now since he's lost to Vincent (and now he has two Non-Noble blemishes on his record as opposed to Zelda having none), but I always considered Zelda the underdog here.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/16/2006 2:40:20 PM | message detail
Ganon is extremely close to Sonic

Ganon can't get "extremely" close unless Vincent beats Sonic outright because you'll be looking at 53%+ for Sonic otherwise. That's not what I call "extremely" close.
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consolefreak | Posted 10/16/2006 2:45:05 PM | message detail
What is this crazy nonsense about Tifa breaking 45% on Samus? Assuming she wasn't underrated in those stats that year, Tifa would have to be stronger than Solid Snake in 2005 for that. Yeah...no.

What's so unreasonable about a 3.65 boost? 2% boosts are being tossed around all over the place, but Tifa gaining 3.65 from KH2 and AC is totally impossible? If you think Samus adjusted is underrated, then I can see how you can't possibly fathom Tifa breaking 45%. I never realised that was a popular sentiment on the board?

It actually isn't too bad, really. It hurts for discussion -- minus today which had three pages worth of new discussion about something as silly as Tifa breaking 45% on Samus -- but it's a nice break!

Not as silly as her failing to break 40%!


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Master Moltar | Posted 10/16/2006 2:49:12 PM | message detail
Tifa couldn't even break 45% on Sonic. You're asking alot from me to say she'll break 45% on Samus. Yeah, she's probably boosted, but I doubt it's anything huge. Tifa's role in KH2 wasn't that big at all.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/16/2006 2:59:33 PM | message detail
I agree with Moltar, but at least this is more reasonable than the talk of Tifa beating both Sonic and Mega Man last year.
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/16/2006 3:17:39 PM | message detail
And Dante > Tifa this year? Not happening. She was stronger last year, and KH2 + AC >>>>>> DMC3: SE and DMC collection.

AWW HELLS NAW!

A movie and a cameo in a game is going to be better than DMC3 more than doubling it's sales since last contest, DMC2 going greatest hits, AND DMC: Greatest Hits Collection? Yeah, and the Irish Jig Master is going to win the contest.

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/16/2006 3:20:32 PM | message detail
That crossed my mind briefly, but Sephiroth doubling up on poor Mega Man changed my mind toot sweet. Unless Sephiroth getting that much-hyped optional boss fight gave him a MUCH bigger boost in 2003 than Cloud got.

Which means, err...Sephiroth for 2k6 Champ?


OH HEY I'VE ONLY BEEN SAYING THIS FOREVER. It's been one of the many reasons why I don't believe in 2K2 to 2K3 being caused by KH, and size of the role mattering.

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/16/2006 3:21:29 PM | message detail
Pic is up!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/cb5/cb536.jpg

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/16/2006 3:22:54 PM | message detail
Um...err, I was hoping for RE3 Jill, but I guess this is cool.
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HoorayProxies | Posted 10/16/2006 3:25:12 PM | message detail
Jill is looking fugly, and Peach as sexy as ever! Book this one for the princess baby!

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/16/2006 3:25:40 PM | message detail
Oh, and FEAST YOUR EYES ON THE WONDEROUS 2003 "Mega Man is so Awesome (and constant from 2002)" Stats!!!

Percentages are on 2002 Link.

*Cloud Strife – 56.48%
*Link – 55.03%
Sephiroth – 54.77%
Mega Man – 42.91%
Mario – 42.45%
Crono – 42.4%
*Samus Aran – 42.18%
Solid Snake – 39.9%
*Magus – 38.83%
*Sonic the Hedgehog – 38.82%
*Ganondorf – 38.59%
Shadow the Hedgehog – 38.1%
*Tidus – 38.08%
*Zero – 37%
*Aeris Gainsborough – 36.47%
*Squall Leonhart – 35.26%
*Bowser – 34.43%
Ryu – 33.79%
Zelda – 33.68%
*Auron – 31.94%
Dante – 31.38%
Alucard – 30.64%
Yoshi – 30.07%
Knuckles – 29.43%
Kirby – 29.28%
*Master Chief – 29.06%
Tommy Vercetti – 28.43%
*Jill Valentine – 28.22%
Donkey Kong – 28.17%
*Luigi – 28.05%
*Scorpion – 27.5%
*Felix – 27.35%
Wario – 26.76%
Yuna – 26.3%
*Sam Fisher – 26.2%
*KOS-MOS – 25.52%
Lara Croft – 25.4%
Ramza Beoulve – 24.8%
*Sora – 24.32%
*Ken Masters – 24.13%
*Tails – 22.69%
Bomberman – 21.78%
Vyse – 21.18%
*Issac – 20.81%
Duke Nukem – 20.52%
*Conker – 20.17%
Raziel – 19.9%
Kite – 19.77%
*Fox McCloud – 19.5%
*Crash Bandicoot – 19.41%
Max Payne – 19.16%
Kefka – 17.88%
Gordon Freeman – 17.63%
Pac-Man – 17.54%
*Ness – 17.16%
*CATS – 15.02%
*Ratchet – 14.29%
Ryo Hazuki – 14.03%
Raiden – 13.66%
*Pikachu – 12.22%
Tom Nook – 12.03%
Captain Olimar – 9.83%
*Aiai – 9.61%
Mr. Resetti – 9.47%

Please inform me if I did anything incorrectly. I'll start on trying to adjust this, uh, 'thing' later...but it's weird!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/16/2006 3:26:36 PM | message detail
The heck, guys? Jill looks bodacious.
transience | Posted 10/16/2006 3:28:23 PM | message detail
*Tidus – 38.08%
*Squall Leonhart – 35.26%

heh. I love stats.
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HoorayProxies | Posted 10/16/2006 3:30:52 PM | message detail
I agree with Moltar, but at least this is more reasonable than the talk of Tifa beating both Sonic and Mega Man last year.

Not really. Sonic is expected to get 46% on Samus using 2K5 stats, and that's assuming Samus really is that weak. Excuse me while I laugh at the notion that Tifa suddenly goes 50/50 with Sonic this year, after getting 43.5 on him last year.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/16/2006 3:31:48 PM | message detail
2002 Link is a chump !!
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/16/2006 3:31:54 PM | message detail
Expect Peach with 68% tomorrow!
HoorayProxies | Posted 10/16/2006 3:32:53 PM | message detail
Do you really have that much fun throwing out the stupidest predicitons possible?

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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/16/2006 3:33:48 PM | message detail
Why yes, yes I do.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/16/2006 3:34:49 PM | message detail
Hey partystar, Samus quadruples Rikku next round! BURN
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transience | Posted 10/16/2006 3:35:50 PM | message detail
Zelda? LOSING TO AERIS
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transience | Posted 10/16/2006 3:36:09 PM | message detail
Sora? GORDON FREEMAN'D
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goku z | Posted 10/16/2006 3:38:25 PM | message detail
Zelda > Aeris, easy.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/16/2006 3:39:10 PM | message detail
Tifa? LOSING TO PEACH!
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/16/2006 3:39:35 PM | message detail
Nothing to say about tommorrow's pic...

Nothing...
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/16/2006 3:50:50 PM | message detail
What picture of Jill is it?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/16/2006 3:51:39 PM | message detail
It's REmake Jill.
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