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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 390

HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/15/2006 7:38:32 PM | message detail
I'm willing to bet Tron could beat a pre-DOA4 Kasumi!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/15/2006 7:39:10 PM | message detail
Tidus/Sora?
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 7:41:54 PM | message detail
Hmm.. yeah... Magus. Forgot about that. 'Course, it's not like Tidus was riding high on FFX love in 2k3.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2006 8:06:50 PM | message detail
Limit Division: Round 2 - Match 35 – (1)Tifa Lockhart vs. (4)The Boss

Moltar’s Analysis

Tifa
Round 1 – 76.18% vs. Ivy (23.82%)

Ivy might have challenged her in the chest department, but Tifa had no trouble winning.

The Boss
Round 1 – 61.08% vs. Celes (38.92%)

Ouch, FF6 embarasses once again, as Celes can’t even touch The Boss.

Well, after The Boss’s impressive performance last round, she hits a brick wall, in the shape of Tifa. Now, we already know The Boss can’t challenge Tifa, but also, we may get some of that funky FF7/MGS SFF we’ve seen in the past.

Even if we don’t see any, I’m not even sure anymore that Celes will even be at Terra’s level, and Tifa would destroy both of them. The Boss may do respectably, but don't count on it.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Tifa will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Tifa: 70% - The Boss: 30%



Ulti’s Analysis

The Boss's path in this contest was as predictable as could be, despite what Celes supporters would have you believe. And... that's it, really. she has no chance to beat Tifa at all.

Prediction: Tifa with 67.67%



HM’s Analysis

Tifa Lockhart

Previous Matches:

Tifa Lockhart – 76.18% -- 96,118

Ivy Valentine – 23.82% -- 30,046

The Boss

The Boss – 61.08% -- 66,787

Celes Chere – 38.92% -- 42,565

One of the highlights of last round was The Boss taking care of Celes with no problem at all. Right from the very beginning, the match was never in question. Tifa, on the other hand, put up some very good numbers against Soul Calibur II’s Ivy Valentine. Unfortunately, The Boss clearly stands no chance whatsoever in this match despite being far superior (YES, TIFA FAN…BABIES, THE BOSS IS BETTER)!

We probably won’t be able to get too good of a read here on Tifa, who has possibly benefited from Kingdom Hearts II, but we should at least get an idea of how weak Celes will be in relation to Terra. But other than that, I can’t imagine her performance here changing too much. Perhaps if Peach ends up being a surprise and pretty strong coupled with a pretty bad underperformance here, but eh. Tifa’s path is pretty cut and dry.

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: Tifa Lockhart

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: Tifa Lockhart – 67% ; The Boss – 33%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: The Boss



Yoblazer’s Analysis

You know, despite doing a disgraceful job on the crew in this contest, I've still learned a few things. Actually, I've learned one thing: writing stuff for the female matches is very, how you say, uninteresting and crappy. The entire half of the bracket has very few interesting matches, and unfortunately, this is not one of them.

As a Metal Gear fan, I was overjoyed with The Boss's performance in Round 1. Going into what was, believe it or not, one of the most debated female matches, the legendary soldier destroyed Celes Chere and made everyone who took her for the seeding upset look like they acted a fool. However, a 61/39 win over the weakest Final Fantasy femme in history does not equal a win over the strongest one, and that's exactly who Boss is up against here.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2006 8:07:19 PM | message detail
Tifa is simply far too strong for any Metal Gear character not named Solid Snake to contend with, and The Boss is no exception. We all know she will win; the skill comes into play only when trying to predict the margin of victory. Logically, the most comparable contest entrant to The Boss is Revolver Ocelot. Based on the stats from both the Villains Contest and SC2K5, pre-AC/KHII Tifa is expected to beat Ocelot with 65-68% of the vote. Now, even though I wouldn't be terribly surprised if The Boss were actually stronger than Ocelot, I also think it's obvious that Tifa has boosted in the past year based on everything we've seen so far. I'd say the range for this match is anywhere between the high 60's and low 70's, but I'll give Boss the benefit of the doubt due to fanboyism.

My prediction: Tifa Lockheart def. The Boss (69-31)



Lopen’s Analysis

The Boss had little trouble dispatching our little friend Celes last round. I thought it'd be close, but it wasn't! A 60-40 on Celes makes The Boss look like she's probably above the fodder line, at least. But… but, we've all seen MGS and FF7 (FF8 too?) have their weird interactions. I won't throw our favorite three letters out there, but fishy? … yes… fishy!

However, The Boss is only in MGS3, a game not on the PS1... so she might just be a bit stronger against that… fishiness. In fact, I don't expect much… fishiness… around this match. But, I won't factor it out. The Boss could manage anywhere between 25 and 40 and I wouldn't be too surprised.

I guess if The Boss got 40 there'd be a Tifa doom saying squad forming, and that'd be funny. I think, anyway… who's the 2 seed here? Peach? Oh ho ho… yeah right!

Lopen's Prediction: Tifa with 67.21%



KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

Tifa Lockheart

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 16th Place [30.77%]

Tifa dispatches of Ivy in one HELL of a high voting match, proving how big of a draw those bigguns were. But now thanks to the faceshot round (and a not especially feminine opponent) TJF is out of the picture, and we hopefully get a better idea of where Tifa stands this year.

...hopefully.

The Boss

lol N/A

The Boss turns arguably the most debated match of the female bracket into an absolute slaughter, shaming those that bet against the power of MGS3 (and moreso those that bet on the 'power' of FFVI characters). Though the victory itself was impressive enough, doing in a FFVI character with ease isn't exactly the most marvelous feat in the world. Now she's up against a character from a FF that counts, and with KH2 power to boot. Time to show what you're made of, soldier.

Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

Tifa Lockheart: Kingdom Hearts 2 (PS2)
The Boss: Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2)

Upcoming Releases

Tifa Lockheart: N/A
The Boss: N/A

Yeah...if The Boss evades the doubling or even comes close to it I'll be absolutely astounded, and Squall will barely be a blip on my (err, Snake's) map as I look forward to Mega Man once again. Yes, she's an untested character, but I'd like to think I'm in touch enough with the fanbase to know that her simply being on Ocelot's level would be a great accomplishment. Being significantly higher (y'know, stronger Tifa and all) would be a great sign for MGS.

Alas...

Karma Hunter's Vote: The Boss. For the second time in a row I vote for her despite not being fond of her at all...I blame her opponents making her look like a goddess in comparison.

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Tifa Lockheart with 70.55% .
Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2006 8:07:58 PM | message detail
Due to The Boss still being an unstable character, in the face of FFVII/KH2 and the power of a potential overperformance here, I'm calling for Tifa to crack 70% without too much of a sweat. For the sake of true patriots everywhere Boss, please prove me wrong.

Upset Potential: 0%

*sheds a tear*



Guest’s Analysis - DaruniaTheGoron

Well, this isn't even debatable. Tifa is gonna easily beat The Boss here before going on to beat either Jill or Peach. I'm predicting the Boss keeps it a little respectable after her sound defeat of Celes however.

Prediction: Tifa with 68.76%




Tran-man's non-Crew and therefore doesn't count for anything, yet I'm posting it anyway Analysis Super Happy Fun Time!

we have two cases of FF7 SFFing MGS - FF7 vs. Metal Gear Solid in the Game Contest and Sephiroth beating the hell out of Liquid Snake in the Villain Contest. we also have Solid Snake beating Sora far harder than he should have. if you look at it, it's almost like Snake shares a fanbase with Square. if this is true, The Boss may be in for the beating of her life.

fortunately for her, The Boss is a PS2-exclusive while Tifa is mostly just an FF7 character. The Boss looked pretty impressive against Celes and Solid Snake looked noticably stronger in 2005 thanks to MGS3. I think it's safe to say that The Boss will perform admirably despite the possibility of her getting SFFed for some stupid reason. she probably won't escape a doubling, but I think she can keep it below a triple.

prediction: Tifa with 70.34%
Janus5000 | Posted 10/15/2006 8:09:02 PM | message detail
If Lopen gets this point, I demand KH eat a copy of every MGS game.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/15/2006 8:10:14 PM | message detail
Lot of low Tifa predictions. I thought the consensus would be much higher.

Oh well, let's hope that she scores higher so I do better in the Oracle.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2006 8:17:48 PM | message detail
I have a feeling Tifa will overperform...but I don't want to put The Boss any closer to Terra.
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Rikku vs. Kairi - Bracket: Rikku - Vote: Rikku (30/34)
transience | Posted 10/15/2006 8:38:36 PM | message detail
I have a weird feeling about this match.. just no idea what to expect. I can't see Tifa overperforming here, but at the same time all evidence points to it being a possibility. I don't know, I could see The Boss going as low as a doubling here. I could also a tripling happen. blah.

Rikku with.. 61% of the brackets.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2006 8:43:59 PM | message detail
I hope The Boss does well. It would sure make up for today to see an actual good character perform nicely!
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Tifa vs. The Boss - Bracket: Tifa - Vote: The Boss (32/36)
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 8:44:47 PM | message detail
The Boss will be more than fortunate to avoid a doubling. She's gonna get beat down.
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transience | Posted 10/15/2006 8:45:08 PM | message detail
given what I've seen of The Boss's fanbase, I don't think they'll abandon her for Tifa. the ones who like her seem to be really big fans.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 8:52:17 PM | message detail
The Boss and fanbase in the same sentence, what is the world comming to? Before the contest started I had her pegged at Big Boss level, and the only thing that has stopped me from believing that is that it makes no sense for Celes to be that far from Terra.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 8:52:40 PM | message detail
Round 2

Limit Division Semifinals- Match 1

Tifa (1) vs The Boss (4)


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2503
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2504

In round 1, Tifa completely demolished Soul Calibur's Ivy while The Boss took a debated match that people were expecting her to perform around Big Boss levels and destroyed Celess and winding up better looking than Ocelot in the process.

Gah I hate this damn femal bracket >_<

TuRtLe's Prediction: Tifa with 68.13%
TuRtLe's Bracket: Tifa
TuRtLe's Vote: Tifa


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transience | Posted 10/15/2006 8:53:44 PM | message detail
well, fanbase being a relative term. obviously it's not very big, but the ones that do like her seem quite devout.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 8:53:59 PM | message detail
And let me just say right now that if Tifa overperforms and makes Celes look much weaker in the stats than Terra, heads will roll!!

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 8:54:13 PM | message detail
'Course, considering the SFF he's behind I suppose it wouldn't be that far off from Terra. Either way, I'd expect her to lose to Ocelot without SFF, so take that as you will.
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Janus5000 | Posted 10/15/2006 8:54:28 PM | message detail
Better make them start rolling now.
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therealmnm | Posted 10/15/2006 8:59:54 PM | message detail
Tifa triples The Boss!
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2006 9:00:15 PM | message detail
Tifa Lockhart 55.56%

5
The Boss 44.44%

4
TOTAL VOTES 9

Woo!
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Tifa vs. The Boss - Bracket: Tifa - Vote: The Boss (32/36)
Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2006 9:00:57 PM | message detail
58.22% for Rikku, ouch Kingdom Hearts
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Tifa vs. The Boss - Bracket: Tifa - Vote: The Boss (32/36)
transience | Posted 10/15/2006 9:01:09 PM | message detail
ooh, this looks like it could get ugly.

HAHA CELES
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 9:01:34 PM | message detail
..... daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn

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charmander6000 | Posted 10/15/2006 9:01:42 PM | message detail
Only 49 -1 left.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/15/2006 9:01:48 PM | message detail
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 9:02:11 PM | message detail
Over 70% with plenty of early-match FF7 hate votes to go! Beat. Down.
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/15/2006 9:03:06 PM | message detail
Wow, Celes is going to look like ass.
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Current Prediction - Tifa Lockhart vs. The Boss
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 9:03:19 PM | message detail
This doesn't make sense. Either Celes is considerably weaker than Terra, or Tifa boosted to hell since last year....

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therealmnm | Posted 10/15/2006 9:03:25 PM | message detail
therealmnm | Posted 10/15/2006 11:59:54 PM | message detail
Tifa triples The Boss!


Ha! Just made it!
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/15/2006 9:03:35 PM | message detail
Tifa will increase her lead even more during the day. Poor Celes.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/15/2006 9:03:36 PM | message detail
I called it!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 9:04:08 PM | message detail
And she's still going up O_O

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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/15/2006 9:04:16 PM | message detail
Ha! This must be the first thing I called right this contest.
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transience | Posted 10/15/2006 9:04:29 PM | message detail
Wow, Celes is going to look like ass.

we saw this last month!
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 9:05:23 PM | message detail
Well, there's the slight (and I do mean slight) chance of SFF... but that makes less sense than Celes being too far off from Terra. Tifa does have some reason to gain, though, so no need to rule out that possibility.
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/15/2006 9:05:37 PM | message detail
We need no more FFVI characters in these contests.

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2006 9:05:55 PM | message detail
Ouch, and this is Tifa's worst time too. Plus add in MGS's crappy day vote, and this may end up around a tripling.

Blargh...
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Tifa vs. The Boss - Bracket: Tifa - Vote: The Boss (32/36)
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 9:06:01 PM | message detail
2) BlAcK TuRtLe Rikku 58.12% 49.84 9.97

Holy crap I made the oracle top 5 for the first time this contest!!!

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Janus5000 | Posted 10/15/2006 9:06:19 PM | message detail
Haha, ow.

I'm hoping Tifa makes this even worse so that Kuja is actually not the weakest FF character ever!

*rolls 3m head into Turtle in advance*
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/15/2006 9:06:48 PM | message detail
73/27 Looks like Celes is weaker than I thought.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 9:06:58 PM | message detail
"And she's still going up O_O"

Of course. What do you expect from a FF7 character? they get anti-voted to hell and back in the first few moments. Even Cloud let CATS have the lead for a little while. That's just how ridiculous some of these kids are. Basically every FF character ends the match higher than they started it.
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transience | Posted 10/15/2006 9:06:58 PM | message detail
Kuja is hotter than Celes anyway.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 9:07:08 PM | message detail
From ChichiriMuyo Posted 10/16/2006 12:05:23 AM
Well, there's the slight (and I do mean slight) chance of SFF... but that makes less sense than Celes being too far off from Terra. Tifa does have some reason to gain, though, so no need to rule out that possibility.

Ok, forget what I said about Boss disappointing. If Tifa doesn't at least break 45% on Samus, heads will roll

<_<

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 9:08:27 PM | message detail
Oh, and did we just lose our last perfect to Kairi!?
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King Bowser | Posted 10/15/2006 9:08:29 PM | message detail
f Tifa doesn't at least break 45% on Samus

Haha! Funny.

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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/15/2006 9:08:40 PM | message detail
I can't believe Ultros is going to end up stronger than Celes... unless Tifa boosted a lot.


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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 9:08:48 PM | message detail
Of course. What do you expect from a FF7 character? they get anti-voted to hell and back in the first few moments. Even Cloud let CATS have the lead for a little while. That's just how ridiculous some of these kids are. Basically every FF character ends the match higher than they started it.

But that's CATS though. The board loves him, so it makes sense that he killed Cloud in the opening minutes. Though it wouldnt surprise me in the least to see Board 8 antivote something moderately popular.

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transience | Posted 10/15/2006 9:09:02 PM | message detail
yeah, the guy who had it admitted he was gonna lose his perfect to Kairi a couple days ago.
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Janus5000 | Posted 10/15/2006 9:09:22 PM | message detail
Too true, transy.
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