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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/14/2006 9:59:49 PM | message detail
Yes, Kairi actually has fans.



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, and thanks to RockMFR for finding the missing ones!
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games (down for now, so here's a new link):
http://transience.paragonsigma.com/top100.txt



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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/14/2006 10:00:29 PM | message detail
Kairi fan, here!
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/14/2006 10:00:54 PM | message detail
lol loli
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The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 10/14/2006 10:00:56 PM | message detail
Me too. At least, enough of a fan to vote for her over Rikku.
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King Bowser | Posted 10/14/2006 10:14:41 PM | message detail
Yes, Kairi actually has fans.

Quite unfortunate!

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falcofan88 | Posted 10/14/2006 10:15:32 PM | message detail
lolivote
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/14/2006 10:20:56 PM | message detail
Lies, I'm going to go on believing 35% on Kairi's vote are KH proxy votes.
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Rikku vs. Kairi - Bracket: Rikku - Vote: Rikku (30/34)
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/14/2006 10:28:12 PM | message detail
KH proxy votes?

So KH is a stuffer eh? 35% eh? That would explain how Boss beat Celes <_<

TuRtLe
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/14/2006 10:29:06 PM | message detail
Yes, Kairi actually has fans.



Porque?!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/15/2006 1:24:03 PM | message detail
I firmly believe that 1% here is Kairi fan votes, 25% is "We'll vote for anything KH!" votes, and the remaining 15% is Rikku anti-votes.
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_Harmonica_ | Posted 10/15/2006 1:26:11 PM | message detail
I'm in the 15%!
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therealmnm | Posted 10/15/2006 1:26:24 PM | message detail
I still don't understand why though. Besides the horny teenagers, I guess...
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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/15/2006 1:27:22 PM | message detail
Silly kids and their addiction to lolicon!
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__Smurf__ | Posted 10/15/2006 1:27:33 PM | message detail
So what was the 52% aganist Claire then? 52% anything KH?
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/15/2006 1:38:49 PM | message detail
Silly kids and their addiction to lolicon!

Loving lolicon doesn't mean loving Kairi, you know. Plenty of loli fans hate Kairi.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/15/2006 1:40:53 PM | message detail
I voted for Kairi, but that's because Rikku would've won anyways.

Kairi rSFFed my vote.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/15/2006 5:35:21 PM | message detail
Yes, Kairi actually has fans.

NO WAI
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 6:37:50 PM | message detail
We'll be needing this soon.
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FFDragon | Posted 10/15/2006 6:48:40 PM | message detail
I have never seen a truer 500 post.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/15/2006 6:49:46 PM | message detail
I have never seen a truer 499 post.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 6:49:48 PM | message detail
I hate you. Not because of your post, but because I hate peopel locking out topics with innane crap. Seriously, I hate having my discussions interrupted simply because someone wants what is essentially a 500th post.
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MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/15/2006 6:50:19 PM | message detail
Indeed. Some guy in the darkest corner of the closest > the men in this bracket that are actually secure about their sexuality (yes, even Squall and Tidus).
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xp1337 | Posted 10/15/2006 6:50:27 PM | message detail
From XxSoulxX | Posted 10/15/2006 9:49:46 PM
I have never seen a truer 499 post.

QFT

Even better than my attempt to hijack 500 with: Sonic > Crono!
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FFDragon | Posted 10/15/2006 6:50:38 PM | message detail
Because one extra post is so totally going to make or break an argument.
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MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/15/2006 6:50:48 PM | message detail
I hate you. Not because of your post, but because I hate peopel locking out topics with innane crap. Seriously, I hate having my discussions interrupted simply because someone wants what is essentially a 500th post.

Maybe you should learn not to suck at conversations, then.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 6:51:02 PM | message detail
Anyway...

Turtle, no one was talking to you so why don't you go talk to no one. Seriously, it's none of your business how or when I choose to have a discussion or disagreement with someone in the stats topic.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/15/2006 6:51:03 PM | message detail
I agree with Chichilol, but that was still the truest 500 post ever.
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Redtooth | Posted 10/15/2006 6:51:06 PM | message detail
But that 500th post was godly =o

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 6:51:42 PM | message detail
Seems as though FFD got "Male Bracket" confused with "Nothing".

Understandable mistake.

TuRtLe
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MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/15/2006 6:52:00 PM | message detail
I think Zell's a loser, but I'd still rather talk about him than whatever crap what's-his-name is ranting about.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 6:52:02 PM | message detail
I dunno about truest, but it was a damn fine 500, irritating as it was.
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MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/15/2006 6:53:09 PM | message detail
Seems as though FFD got "Male Bracket" confused with "Nothing".

Zell's character is deeper than most think. They don't even mention his being in the closet once, even though it's obvious due to his fascination with hot dogs.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/15/2006 6:55:20 PM | message detail
Looks like this will be mah new main account after the proceedings with Raf follow through. So get used to seeing this account post in here a lot!

-Hiko
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 6:57:19 PM | message detail
*sighs* This is going to get really confusing, really fast. Can't you all just, you know, not trash account names that I've gotten used to over the last couple of years? Or, hell, at least put your old account name in your sig or something. Barring HM and ExTha I don't know that I'll be able to track all the changes that well.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/15/2006 7:00:44 PM | message detail
An unprovable trend, as there's little to no evidence that the expectations were anything short of off-base. Yes, it's odd, but half of those simply can't be counted on and the other half have significant reasons for a change.

I'd much sooner accept Kirby as overrated than accept the Prince of Persia as worth nearly 27% on BL. I'm pretty sure that makes him the strongest non-Mario or Sonic platformer. And it's much easier for me to swallow Bowser being overrated than Leon at 32.56% on BL - that's good enough to be a top 15 character! Not to mention a very healthy 5% more on BL than last year, which seems quite excessive. Alucard through Auron is significantly weaker than Kratos through Ryu - I'm not buying that, and Alucard loses a rematch even with a pretty generous KH2 boost for Auron if you take Ryu at face value. And, yeah, Tidus was an SFF match, but he was expected to get just over 42% and actually got just under 28%. Could it have been all SFF? Sure, but I'd wager Tidus is weaker than he appears.

My expectations could be off, but I would hardly call that flimsy reasoning. There's a bit too much to swallow, too many coincidences to write off, to take the Dream Division at face value.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 7:01:42 PM | message detail
Jeeze Chich, do you do anything but whine and act better than everyone else?

TuRtLe
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/15/2006 7:03:01 PM | message detail
Jeeze Chich, do you do anything but whine and act better than everyone else?

Do you do anything but whine about how the best characters ever are useless and annoying when they clearly, are not?
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 7:03:50 PM | message detail
Via 2k2:

13 Claire Redfield 30.11%

Seems possible to me! Also, again, PoP is a completel unknown contestwise that has been around for soooo long and has 3 current gen titles to his credit. It's not that hard to beleive he could be pretty well up there. Sure, not that far up there, but that may just show that Kirby rSFF'd Bowser and likewise has the SFF afdvantage over Luigi. Not good.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/15/2006 7:04:57 PM | message detail
If it makes you feel any better, here's my new sig!
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 7:07:45 PM | message detail
That does help. Thank you.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/15/2006 7:11:06 PM | message detail
You know about the West Division Factor as well or better than I do, so don't bring Claire up. And, yes, the Prince could be strong, and if that was the only weird thing I'd be hard pressed to draw a firm conclusion from it. But there's four characters and four matches that are difficult to swallow - that's what's giving me my confidence.

Kirby getting rSFF on Luigi isn't outside the realm of possibility, certainly, but I'd guess there's a pretty big difference between getting some rSFF (like Kirby appeared to against Bowser) and getting enough to actually beat your opponent (which probably hasn't happened). Plus, Luigi seems to be more well-liked by the Nintendo (or at least the Mario) fanbase than Bowser, judging by those wonderful "favorite Mario character polls." I'm not sure if he's more well-liked than Kirby, but it's still a plus.

I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see Kirby beat Luigi, just like I wouldn't have been terribly surprised to see Zero beat Luigi. But I think he has enough going for him to win.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/15/2006 7:13:32 PM | message detail
I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see Kirby beat Luigi, just like I wouldn't have been terribly surprised to see Zero beat Luigi. But I think he has enough going for him to win.

I said at the beginning the winner of Luigi/Zero would go on and rush through Kirby, and give Sonic quite a fight, and I'm sticking with that myself. I have not been impressed with Kirby's general strength in any of these contests, no sir ree, not even his domination over Cecil.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 7:15:35 PM | message detail
I have never once believed in the WDF, and I don't think many people still do. It was a load of bullocks.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/15/2006 7:20:38 PM | message detail
There's a better alternative - Link was stronger in 2k3 - but the end result is the same. I find it difficult to believe that Samus, Sonic, Mega Man, Tidus, and Ken all managed to get much weaker in the span of a year, when I don't think we have any characters other than Jill and perhaps Tidus that have experienced a long-term decline over four contests.

But I don't really have any desire to argue 2k2 stats, given that they don't have much (any?) relevance now.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/15/2006 7:22:04 PM | message detail
I said at the beginning the winner of Luigi/Zero would go on and rush through Kirby, and give Sonic quite a fight, and I'm sticking with that myself. I have not been impressed with Kirby's general strength in any of these contests, no sir ree, not even his domination over Cecil.

I said at the beginning the winenr of Luigi/Zero would go on and get owned by Kirby. (Owned being relative of course!) And I'm a firm believer in Bowser being overrated, and Kirby through him, not because of any rSFF, and if there was rSFF, I still don't think it hurts his chances against Luigi. Either way it'll be pretty close, and it depends more on if Luigi/Zero was Luigi's strength, or Zero's weakness, and I'm definitely more willing to attribute it to Zero's weakness, with the possibility of say a 1% increase by Luigi.

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 7:30:35 PM | message detail
Except that Tidus didn't drop. Even in relation to Link he grew. That's even if you don't beleive that Link gained a thing from WW.

Samus had a direct match agaisnt Link. Sounds suspicious to me, especially since she suddenly gained a huge ammoung of her "lost" strength back in 2k4. One must wonder how that can be.

Also, feel free to ask yourself why Crash was weaker in 2k2, closer to his most recently released game, then he was in 2k3.

There are simply too many inconcistencies PERIOD to be running around and making WDF claims, and chances are all of those drops are due to Link gaining. Most of the characters that gained between 2k2 and 2k3 were actually subject to faulty matches in 2k2 (such as Cloud vs. Mario) or recieved new games. Characters who did nothing dropped like rocks for no reason, and characters who were related to Sonic dropped pretty badly themselves, so don't bother pointing to him.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 7:33:51 PM | message detail
Also, keep in mind that MvC2 was a BIG thing in 2k2, and wasn't in 2k3. Ryu and Ken both had strong reasons to drop and I doubt you'd be pressed into believe any of the other MvC2 contestants shoudl have done that well.

Really, just look at Servbot.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/15/2006 7:36:04 PM | message detail
I wish Tron Bonne woulda gotten in that contest with that boost :(

And Kirby/Luigi will indeed be close, but I'm still thinking Kirby will choke...I just don't have much faith in him. And I love Kirby.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 7:37:34 PM | message detail
Tron prolly would have given Kasumi a run for her money that year.
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Janus5000 | Posted 10/15/2006 7:38:18 PM | message detail
Except that Tidus didn't drop. Even in relation to Link he grew.

Only because Magus said so.
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