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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 389

The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/15/2006 8:32:47 AM | message detail
Well, maybe. Rikku could still bomb against Samus >_>

Also, Rikku isn't doing so bad here in the day. Well, Kairi is Kingdom Hearts, but no doubt one of the other Kingdom Hearts characters could have gained more than 2% on Claire with the after-school vote.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/15/2006 8:34:12 AM | message detail
Nah. Frog is well liked by most of the fanbase. Robo is just.... there. Robo is great in battle, but he doesn't seem to have the fanbase that Frog does.

Hey, I really liked Robo's story in that game. He isnt a bland character by any stretch of the imagination...but then again (looks at Link, Crono, Mario, Samus...) having a bland character never stopped anyone anyways...

I would definitely put Frog closer to Robo then Magus though.

Now if only we can get him in...

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meche313 | Posted 10/15/2006 8:41:45 AM | message detail
I never liked Robo. For me it goes (preference, not strenght): Crono > Frog > Magus > Marle >>>> Schala(sp?) > Others.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/15/2006 8:42:51 AM | message detail
Magus > Frog > Robo > Ayla > Crono > Marle > Lucca

Magus and Frog are interchangable, as are Crono and Ayla.

BUT ANYTHING ELSEI S WRONG
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Who Cares? | Posted 10/15/2006 9:35:37 AM | message detail
I just noticed the votals, but at the 12:30 mark, this match has 66544 votes...Luigi/Zero had 65165. Of course it'll likely tail off like Samus/Ada did yesterday since this match is only a few hundred ahead of that one, but still...
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/15/2006 9:42:53 AM | message detail
People are using Samus/Ada to prove another Nintendo boost, and then backing it up with saying Yoshi > Riku, despite Riku getting KH2?

*vomits*

Some people will twist things in any direction just to get the outcome they want... seriously, Samus has always been strong, she had ONE bad match with Mario. OMG NO WAIII UNIVERSE COMING TO AN END.

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cyko | Posted 10/15/2006 11:59:47 AM | message detail
i know tranny already did one of these, but i wanted to before i found out he already did. and since tranny said to go ahead and give my point of view, here are my First Round Winners and Losers!

*****FIRST ROUND LOSERS*****

Jade - admit it. how many of you saw Jade when the bracket came out and thought it was the Jade from Mortal Kombat. Jade definitely wins the award for most unknown character this year. it completely baffles me that Jade even made it into the contest, let alone as a 5 seed. it's a shame, too, because her game (Beyond Good and Evil) really was a high quality game and Jade was a really cool character; but for some unknown reason, noone bought her game. the end Character Battle result? a humiliating 76% - 24% to a character that will be lucky not to be humiliated herself in the second round.

Celes Chere - is every Final Fantasy 6 character destined to be pathetic? it really doesn't make sense that one of the most popular games from one of the most popular series on this site can't generate a reasonably popular character. based on that some people hoped that Celes could out-perform Terra. instead, Celes not only lost to The Boss, but lost badly, finishing with just under 39%. ouch.

Princess Daisy - good grief. the 17% she managed against Peach was enough to get her into the SFF Hall of Shame with Raiden, Captain Olimar, and Ganondorf. Peach was the worst possible matchup Daisy could've gotten (seeing how she is basically a loud, dark-haired clone of Peach) and she responded by putting up no kind of fight whatsoever. Daisy's pathetic 18,423 votes was also the second lowest individual vote total of the contest. yeesh.

Alyx Vance - with Gordon Freeman getting a realistic shot at winning a match, someone from Half-Life had to step up and take the role of universal loser. that loser is Alyx Vance. she only managed 22.45% against fading star Lara Croft. to put that in perspective, Chop Chop Master freaking Onion got 30% against Lara. yes, even rapping onions are more popular than Alyx Vance.

pikaness - the Oracle Contest run by Kaxon and King Morgoth (which was instituted by solarshadow) has run for six contests without much of a problem, growing into one of the most (if not THE most) popular side-contests on this board. but then pikaness decided for some unknown reason that she would try to get away with cheating. as if cheating itself wasn't bad enough, she felt the need to try it while in first place! to her credit, pikaness fessed up right away, but it still caused quite a stir in the Oracle Contest as the contest hosts came down firmly on her. pikaness then received the dishonor of being the first person banned from an Oracle Contest. the lesson here? DON'T **** WITH KING MORGOTH. DON'T **** WITH KAXON. DON'T **** WITH THE ORACLE CONTEST.


Soma Cruz - personally, i didn't think that Soma would amount to much. but, quite a few people had high hopes for him after Castlevania's impressive run in the Series Contest and the increased popularity of the DS. and how did Soma wind up doing? well, he got the bejesus kicked out of him by Solid Snake, finishing with around 18% to the disappointment of many board regulars.

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cyko | Posted 10/15/2006 12:00:22 PM | message detail
Tidus - Tidus was my front-runner for Turd of the Round for quite some time. he just keeps finding new ways to humiliate himself. do you realize that out of the 17 characters who have made it into all 5 Character Battles, Tidus has the THIRD FEWEST WINS, only behind CATS and Gordon Freeman. and out of those 17 characters, only Tidus, CATS and Gordon have never made it to the Sweet 16. to make things even MORE embarrassing for Tidus, it is likely that THREE of his game's "supporting characters" are going to make the Sweet 16 this year after he lost in the first round! now, noone expected him to beat Squall. noone really even expected him to put up much of a fight. but to be reduced to the level of Geno? that was an unexpected level of SFF obliteration. ouch.


Yoshi - Yoshi's contest strength has been hard to pinpoint over the years due to suspicious losses to Bowser, Link, and Mega Man. the general consensus seemed to be that he should be a near-elite character, though. so, he became the favorite to win his 4-pack before the contest. unfortunately, he posted a very unimpressive 55% win against Riku. it remains to be seen how much of that match's result was because of Riku gaining popularity, but Yoshi's match was the first hint that Nintendo may not be as unstoppable this year as it was last year.

Sora - what the heck, Sora? he's the main character of this site's current front-runner for Game of the Year, so most people expected him take a pretty sizable jump in popularity and crush Tingle. instead, Sora barely managed to triple Tingle. now, it might be that this site really will vote for anything from Zelda (Epona for 2007!!), but Sora sure didn't look like he performed any better than last year.

Mega Man - Mega Man is the king of huge blowouts, right? Ms. Pac-Man? Serious Sam Stone? Mr. Resetti? so, he shouldn't have much trouble with some villain named Axel, right? WRONG!! Mega Man came into the match an over-whelming favorite to make the Final Four. by the end of the day, the general consensus was that he and Snake would be dead even, even with knowledge of Kingdom Hearts potentially boosting it's characters. this match really shook a lot of people's confidence in the Blue Bomber.

Kirby - since when do Nintendo characters lose the day vote? Kirby looked like he was going to dominate the Prince when he jumped out of the gate with a doubling. it seemed like he would cruise to an easy, dominating victory. instead, he went the other way, losing almost 5 points throughout the day. some people questioned the legitimacy of Kirby's 2005 strength and this match did nothing to help Kirby's case.

Zero - for some reason, Zero has NEVER received much bracket support. despite being the board favorite and statistical favorite, Zero still had less than 30% of the brackets against Luigi. ouch. when the match started, though, Zero just turned his back to the match (perhaps because of the casual bracketmakers' lack of faith in him) and simply allowed Luigi to roll right past him. it was pretty embarrassing for a character that once got 48% against Sonic to get pounded by a character that lost to Tifa with 46.6% who in turn lost to Sonic with 43.6%. not only did this match cause people to question whether or not Zero has lost popularity, but it caused many to wonder if the entire Megaman franchise has slowed down...


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cyko | Posted 10/15/2006 12:01:22 PM | message detail
Bowser - for the love of x-stats, what happened to Bowser?! he was expected to get 62.38% against Leon. instead, he only managed 55.45% against Resident Evil latest hero. this match sent up two warning flags. first of all, after watching Kirby, Tidus and Ryu perform somewhat poorly, Bowser solidified the possibility that his entire division was overrated last year due to his suspicious match against Snake. secondly, it was the clinching match to show that Nintendo as a whole isn't dominating nearly as much as it did last year. who knows? maybe the rest of Nintendo's characters will perform well next round. Samus, Peach, Zelda, Yoshi, Luigi, and Ganon (through Vincent) all have the chance to prove that Nintendo is still a force to be reckoned with. they can still prove that it was just Bowser and Kirby that were seriously overrated last year. but either way, Bowser's performance was very underwhelming for a near-elite character.

Alucard - i have come to realize that "The Plan" must be for Alucard to continue getting less and less popular until he reaches negative popularity and inversely becomes the most popular character of all time!! either that, or he will keep getting weaker as long as vote totals keep increasing because Alucard doesn't appeal much to the average casual voter. granted, a lot of this match's outcome was probably due to Auron receiving a boost from Kingdom Hearts 2. but even with that, Alucard still failed to live up to most people's expectations.

*TURD OF THE ROUND*


Master Chief - up until the last day of the first round, this spot was reserved for Tidus. instead, the sheer arrogance of Master Chief has immortalized him as one of the biggest losers in contest history. Halo has performed the hat trick of over-ratedness by handing us the biggest first round upset ever in character, game, and series contests. people have so much confidence in Master Chief and he continues to let them down. MC is so over-dramatic that it seems like he feels the need to constantly be involved in close matches. he allows his opponents to take the lead and then reasons that his victories will look more impressive if they are come from behind victories. but this time, he underestimated Sub-Zero. he did cut almost 2000 votes off of Sub-Zero's already slim lead, but in the end, it wasn't enough. in the end..... the mighty Master Chief has struck out.

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Gaddswell | Posted 10/15/2006 12:04:56 PM | message detail
Man, the stats topic sure is dead right now.

Anyways, here are Samus' and Rikku's 2k5 x-stats:

Samus (2005c) VS Rikku (2005c)

Samus has a strength of 41.69.
Rikku has a strength of 26.55.

Samus wins with 68.16% of the vote!
A win of 35,032 with 96,466 total votes cast.



Since the dream division is likely overrated, I'll adjust Rikku down 2% to Diablo's level.


Samus (2005c) VS Diablo (2005c)

Samus has a strength of 41.69.
Diablo has a strength of 24.22.

Samus wins with 70.95% of the vote!
A win of 37,627 with 89,792 total votes cast.


From the looks of things, Kairi appears to be between Kratos and CATS (with her being closer to Kratos). Of course, that's not taking any SFF into account. Using an unadjusted Rikku, Kairi looks to be between Pac-Man and Ocelot. This puts her between 24-27% on Samus.
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cyko | Posted 10/15/2006 12:06:18 PM | message detail


*****FIRST ROUND WINNERS*****


Kairi - NPCs aren't that popular right? WRONG!! even though she does have a central role to the story in the Kingdom Hearts series, Kairi stil wasn't playable or a villain. historically, NPCs just haven't performed that well in these contests. however, Kairi took the first step towards proving that Kingdom Hearts 2 would be a force to be reckoned with this year - ESPECIALLY with the afterschool voters. starting at 2:30 PM EST, Kairi took 75 minutes to erase a 500 vote lead en route to a 4500 vote victory. not too shabby for a schoolgirl in distress.

Claire Redfield - even though Claire eventually lost the match, she held her own for over half of the match with Kairi. she even managed to build a 500 vote lead - even though most of the board wrote her off as being well past her prime and having no chance to win her match. she silenced her doubters with this respectable loss.

The Boss - The Boss deserves a mention simply because she managed to be a Metal Gear Solid character with a match pic that didn't look like a turd or a melting pile of flesh! she still looked like a man to me, but you could clearly identify her as the mannish woman that is The Boss. oh, and she won her match against Celes rather convincingly, too. The Boss held Celes under 40% and turned a debatable match into a match that should have seemed obvious.

Zelda - yeah, Zelda was expected to blow Carmen Sandiego out of the water, so she did what she was supposed to. what was impressive about her match was the sheer numbers. not only did Zelda score the biggest blowout of the contest with an 86/14 victory, but Zelda also became the first character to break 100,000 votes in a single match. that's impressive. for comparison's sake, CATS has only gotten 85,729 total votes in all 5 of his Character Battle matches combined. 100,000 votes in one match is impressive. Zelda was supposed to dominate and she did it with record-breaking style.

Kerrigan's fans - people always complain about the match pics. complaining about match pics is as much a part of Board 8 as ertyu and pointless user contests. it happens all the time. Kerrigan is definitely no exception to that complaining. of course, that's mostly because Kerrigan is ******* ugly. we're talking foot fungus fugly here. yet, that didn't stop her fans from complaining when she got that same unrecognizable match pic against Terra that she had last year against Vincent. her fans complained so much that CJayC actually made a topic challenging them to find a better match pic. so, they went to work and they succeeded. it's debatable how much better Kerrigan's new match pic looked, but they spoke up and Ceej changed the picture. in the overall scheme of things, the new pic didn't seem to help Kerrigan much; seeing how she still lost to Terra with only around 41% of the vote. but getting Ceej to change the match pic is one heck of a moral victory.


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cyko | Posted 10/15/2006 12:07:55 PM | message detail
Yuna - and who got the second highest vote total of the contest? was it some Noble Niner? nope. some Final Fantasy 7 character? nope. a Nintendo character? no way. it was Yuna. against Roll, she came 2300 votes short of being the second character to break 100,000 votes in a single match. a few people questioned Yuna's ability to win her division, but this solid performance against Roll definitely surpassed expectations.

Lara Croft - yeah, we already mentioned that Alyx Vance was a huge loser, but some credit has to go to Lara for returning to the contest with a big win after missing 2005 and getting humiliated in the first round of 2004. the most recent Tomb Raider is supposedly Lara's best game in years, so she appears to have risen a bit from her embarrassing fodder-level ranking. but time will tell if she really deserves to be above fodder. for all we know, Alyx Vance could be the next Mr. Driller. but for now, Lara can enjoy her one shining Character Battle moment.

Squall Leonheart - again, Tidus is already a major loser, but Squall deserves credit for humiliating him so badly. the last off-season was full of debate about whether or not the 2005 Devil Division was overrated. Squall was the first charcter from that division to put those claims to the test. and he answered them with authority. he hammered Tidus so badly that now most people are expecting him to give Snake a run for his money. this was indeed a very solid victory for Squall. >_>

Riku - Kairi already impressed us with the power of Kingdom Hearts 2. Riku took it a step further against a much stronger opponent - the supposedly near-elite Yoshi. he didn't win the match, but Riku did keep the match respectably close, finishing with just under 45%. Riku definitely did his part in showing that KH2 would indeed leave it's mark on this contest.

Dante - Dante was another character from last year's Devil Division that some people felt may have been overrated. his opponent Ryu Hayabusa was also supposedly underrated due to some sort of mysterious SFF in the Zero vs. Mario match. (personally, i never bought into either of those, but some people did. whatever.) so, a lot of people expected Dante to have difficulty meeting the 63.72% he was projected to get. instead, Dante was able to effortlessly break 65%. so much for all of that overrated/underrated nonsense. and with that performance (combined with Yoshi's underwhelming victory) Dante suddenly became the favorite to win his four-pack.

Gordon Freeman - GFFW!! yes, Gordon Freeman Finally Wins!! it wasn't really a very pretty victory, but hey - a win is a win. for the first time in his pathetic five year career, Gordon finally managed to scrape together a win against the relatively unknown Phoenix Wright. it wasn't much, but it's pretty much all Gordon is gonna get. good for him!

Phoenix Wright - okay, so he didn't win his match against perennial loser Gordon Freeman. it is kind of embarrassing to be the guy that finally broke the curse of GFNW. however, when you consider that his game only sold about 35,000 or so copies and a large portion of this board thought Phoenix would barely be uber-fodder, Phoenix's 42% on Gordon doesn't look so bad. he also managed to jump out to an 80 vote lead and still held the lead five minutes into his match. very few match losers are able to hold the lead for that long before inevitably losing. so, for that - i salute you, Phoenix Wright!

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transience | Posted 10/15/2006 12:08:10 PM | message detail
Claire, a winner? hmm, maybe based on today's match, but I don't think so for round 1.
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cyko | Posted 10/15/2006 12:08:37 PM | message detail
Kratos - he wasn't able to beat Ryu, but there were three things about Kratos's match that were impressive. first of all, Kratos was not expected to come close to beating Ryu; they expected Ryu to easily break 60%. instead Kratos finished right around 43%. not too shabby. second of all, Kratos brought that 43% up 5 points from the 38% he had 1/4 of the way into the match. also very un-shabby. not only that, but Kratos was somehow the overall bracket favorite in a match where Ryu was the unanimous board favorite! if nothing else, Kratos definitely deserves credit for fooling that many casual bracketmakers.

Axel - as if Kairi and Riku weren't enough to impress us with the power of KH2, a supporting villain had to come in and drive the point home. Axel was supposed to be fodder, but he turned that idea upside down. instead of getting destroyed, he pushed from 25% to 30% by the end of the day. Axel really wasn't that far behind the 33% Tommy Vercetti put up against Mega Man in 2003. that was one stunning loss that surpassed even the most optimistic pro - KH2 expectations.

Vincent Valentine - the Devil Division strikes again!! before the contest this was probably the most debated match of the first round. Vincent vs. Ganon was expected to be the most exciting first round of the match. Vincent came into the match as the board's underdog, but with Zelda:TP being delayed and the release of Dirge of Cerberus, Vincent had more potential to increase. when the match finally rolled around, it definitely live up to it's hype for the first two hours. the lead exchanged hands multiple times and was the most interesting match to watch since Sonic vs. Mega Man. after the first two hours, though, Vincent took off and never looked back. not even the mighty Nintendo day vote could stop Vincent. he took an intense match and cruised to a 52% victory. it wasn't quite impressive enough to force people into worrying about his second round match with Sonic, but still a solid win for Vincent the underdog.

Prince of Persia - the Prince was one of those characters that Board 8 rallied around. after all of Board 8's rallied characters flopped pretty hard last year, most people tried not to get their hopes up too high about their rallied characters this year; especially since most of them appeared to be in unwinnable matches. for once, though, the Prince delivered an impressive performance for a rallied character. he didn't win, but his 38% was more than enough to applaud his efforts and question Kirby's 2005 strength.

Leon Kennedy - i hope i'm not getting too repetitive yet. only a couple more winners to go! *ahem* yeah, Leon didn't win. yeah, he had no chance of beating Bowser in the first place. yeah, his only Contest win was against Gordon Freeman. and yeah, Bowser appears to be weaker than his 2005 value indicated. but dang it; Leon broke 44% against a near elite character and that's pretty stinkin' good. it's a shame that Leon was stuck with this unwinnable first round match because he could have really done some unexpected damage elsewhere in the bracket.

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cyko | Posted 10/15/2006 12:09:36 PM | message detail
Auron - even with the knowledge of KH2's building domination, Auron was still only expected to hit around 60% against Alucard. instead, it must have been part of the Plan for Auron to increase massively so that Alucard looks better by extension and then stab Auron in the back when he's not looking to become the new champion. at any rate, Auron's strong performance made him like he could even threaten Crono; or at least give him a really close match.

Sub-Zero - FATALITY!!! Sub-Zero now holds the record of biggest first round upset ever according to overall bracketmakers. a few people on Board 8 gave him a chance against Master Chief, but not many. it certainly didn't hurt that Sub-Zero did happen to get a new game released right before the match. riding the popularity of his new game, Sub-Zero slowly built up a 4300 vote lead. but, could he fend off the infamous Halo day vote? Master Chief slowly began to whittle away at Sub-Zero's lead, but it was too little too late. Sub-Zero managed to cling to a 51% victory by a slim 2400 votes. it wasn't exactly a solid win, but for a new character with no bracket support, it was still one heck of a win.

STAR OF THE ROUND

Luigi - Sub-Zero came close to stealing this title away from him, but when you break it down, Luigi's win was a bit more impressive. why was Luigi's win so impressive? well, he wasn't as much of an underdog as Sub-Zero, but he was still an underdog against Zero (even though he was the casual favorite by miles). we also had plenty of contest history for both Luigi and Zero - and Zero was the statistical favorite. plus, it was starting to look like Nintendo may have faded from 2005's complete dominance. Luigi came out of left field to be the first Nintendo character to truly impress us this year. the most impressive part, though, is that Luigi burst out of the gate with a 56/44 lead and never looked back. Luigi didn't even let Zero get close, finishing with a solid 54% victory. that combines to make Luigi my Star of the Round.

so, there you have it!! questions? comments? agreements? disagreements?

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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/15/2006 12:09:46 PM | message detail
So how about the female side? Pretty exciting, huh?
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 12:10:08 PM | message detail
Cheating on a board run contest, lol.
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cyko | Posted 10/15/2006 12:11:28 PM | message detail
Claire, a winner? hmm, maybe based on today's match, but I don't think so for round 1.

eh, i thought so. most people thought Kairi would have an easy victory, but Claire hung in there and even took the lead for a while. i thought they both looked good after that match. after today, though, they both look great!!

and now i have to go read yours, tranny, so i can see what i agree with!

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transience | Posted 10/15/2006 12:13:21 PM | message detail
quite a lot, actually. same star, same turd.
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dethfdddddh | Posted 10/15/2006 12:15:41 PM | message detail
Think you forgot about Ganon, Cyko.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 12:17:47 PM | message detail
Oh, and I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one calling Halo's round one failures a hat-trick. :)

Way to score, Halo!
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 12:18:33 PM | message detail
Forgot, or chose not to waste his time with such rubbish?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/15/2006 12:21:12 PM | message detail
Wow, Kairi's actually looking good and seeming to be avoiding SFF here. Based on her current number, here's what my wacky round 2 stats have to say so far (and Kairi's just going to get higher as the match progresses):

Samus Aran – 41.69%
Rikku – 26.55%
Kairi – 21.95%
Claire Redfield – 21.03%
Ada Wong – 16.86%
Nidoran F – 15.13%
Lenneth Valkyrie – 13.28%
Jade – 8.13%

Seeing Claire still above the fodder line makes me feel better about Jill, even though it logically shouldn't.
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cyko | Posted 10/15/2006 12:25:26 PM | message detail
Think you forgot about Ganon, Cyko.

Ganon didn't really do that terribly. his match seemed to have more to do with Vincent receiving a boost than Ganon bombing terribly. had the match gone 55/45 in Vincent's favor, then i feel that would have been enough to call Ganon a loser.

Oh, and I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one calling Halo's round one failures a hat-trick. :)


heh, that is a hat-trick of failures that will be hard to match. only GTA or Donkey Kong could even attempt to challenge Halo with a hat trick of their own.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/15/2006 12:31:10 PM | message detail
But Ganondorf was supposed to be a contender to win the Male Bracket!!
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2006 12:32:18 PM | message detail
Whew, good to see a character not get pounded by the KH day vote again (yeah, Tingle is the only other so far).

As long as Rikku can keep it over 58%, that'll be good enough for me, even though the fact that Kairi is this strong scares and confuses me.
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Rikku vs. Kairi - Bracket: Rikku - Vote: Rikku (30/34)
Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2006 12:33:48 PM | message detail
Ganon would have been a contender had he not faced one of the 5 people he couldn't beat in Round 1!

...Oh, and if TP came out. darn you nintendo
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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/15/2006 12:36:45 PM | message detail
Vincent STILL wins even with Twilight Princess!

And you can't prove me wrong!
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 12:38:14 PM | message detail
Do you know how much I'd liek to beleive that? I'd love to see Vincent beat down on post-TP Ganon, that'd make my year.
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transience | Posted 10/15/2006 12:39:32 PM | message detail
Ganon still doesn't beat Sonic next year! or any NN character!
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 12:40:47 PM | message detail
"Lenneth Valkyrie – 13.28%"

Hold on a second there... Lenneth would beat Yuri? WTF? That makes no sense at all.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 12:41:39 PM | message detail
I agree with tranny!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/15/2006 12:45:48 PM | message detail
Rikku would have to be overrated by a good 5% before Yuri could beat Lenneth, it seems.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/15/2006 12:49:51 PM | message detail
Do you know how much I'd liek to beleive that? I'd love to see Vincent beat down on post-TP Ganon, that'd make my year.

That would be hilarious.
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/15/2006 12:52:25 PM | message detail
Vincent STILL wins even with Twilight Princess!

Haha!

That's so funny!

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nintendoveteran | Posted 10/15/2006 1:09:28 PM | message detail
Go Kairi!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/15/2006 1:10:40 PM | message detail
So funny and yet so true!
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 1:17:47 PM | message detail
Unless Ganon is truly amazing in TP (ha!) it's quite reasonable to beleive any boost he gained from it would be gone by next fall. Of course, the same almost certainly can be said for Vincent over the same time span. Barring a large number of factors that can't be accounted for (since it hasn't happened) I'd still say it's reasonable to pick Vincent again, but I know I'd actually think twice about (which I didn't have to this year).
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 2:03:59 PM | message detail
Looks like this match will stay in the 57-58% range.

Finally, after weeks of terrible Oracle picks, I finally nail a match that had a large range of possible percentages.

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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/15/2006 2:08:24 PM | message detail
Finally, after weeks of terrible Oracle picks, I finally nail a match that had a large range of possible percentages.

Same, except without the terrible part. Yesterday was pretty awful, though.
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King Bowser | Posted 10/15/2006 2:08:55 PM | message detail
Unless Ganon is truly amazing in TP (ha!) it's quite reasonable to beleive any boost he gained from it would be gone by next fall. Of course, the same almost certainly can be said for Vincent over the same time span. Barring a large number of factors that can't be accounted for (since it hasn't happened) I'd still say it's reasonable to pick Vincent again, but I know I'd actually think twice about (which I didn't have to this year).

There's nothing remotely resonable about picking Vincent to win again after the release of Twilight Princess and the Wii. This year, Vincent had a lot going into his favor -- Dirge of Cerberus and Advent Children -- and Ganon didn't have much of anything. Even then, Ganon still kept is pretty damn close. It is a foregone conclusion that Ganon definitely beats Vincent afterward. He has nothing new coming within the next year and Ganon has pretty much everything you could want.

His role could be similar to the one in TWW and he'll take care of Vincent. He is in one of the most hyped games ever, one that will be on Nintendo's new console that people cannot wait to get, and he needs a measly couple of percents. I wouldn't hesitate to pick Ganon next year. I wouldn't even need to acknowledge the possibility of it going the other way like this year.

If someone were to not pick Ganon in a rematch after TP, it would pretty much have to come out of bias. There's no argument you can make for Vincent in that kind of match. You might as well be taking Cloud over post-TP Link.

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nintendoveteran | Posted 10/15/2006 2:12:22 PM | message detail
7th loss FTL
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 2:15:14 PM | message detail
Like I said, in a hypothetical situation:

Ganon vs Vincent in October of 2007. TP was successful. Square announces an FF7 remake that will be coming out a month after the match takes place, who do you take.

I thought this up when I started shifting my opinion to Vincent > Ganon before that match. Shoulda listened to my gut instead of sticking with my bracket on my Oracle.

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therealmnm | Posted 10/15/2006 2:16:20 PM | message detail
Heh, people seem to desperately want Ganon to be Nintendo's answer to Sephiroth. I don't think he has it in him. No matter how evil and badass Nintendo wants to make Ganon, I still can't seem to take him seriously. Maybe it's because he has an eternal rivalry with a boy/teen who constantly kicks his ass. I dunno.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 10/15/2006 2:22:00 PM | message detail
Vincent.

TG
King Bowser | Posted 10/15/2006 2:22:44 PM | message detail
Ganon vs Vincent in October of 2007. TP was successful. Square announces an FF7 remake that will be coming out a month after the match takes place, who do you take.

I'll take Ganon due to the fact that he got one of the largest games ever to be released as opposed to an announcement of a FFVII remake.

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The Real Truth | Posted 10/15/2006 2:26:51 PM | message detail
King Bowser
Posted 10/15/2006 2:08:55 PM

If someone were to not pick Ganon in a rematch after TP, it would pretty much have to come out of bias. There's no argument you can make for Vincent in that kind of match. You might as well be taking Cloud over post-TP Link.


Do you ever just go back and read what you post? LOL Dirger of cerblerlus is best gone american lol ganon > dos is gonna own it. o Vinsents wins lol well no reason this time, take cloud via link like vincent over ganon though vincent won year before cloud didn't lollol

GANON > SONIC!!
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King Bowser | Posted 10/15/2006 2:28:33 PM | message detail
It's always interesting to see how other people read what you write.

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The Real Truth | Posted 10/15/2006 2:30:00 PM | message detail
I was just hinting at how you should type, since all of it pretty much comes out of your ass anyway.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 2:33:02 PM | message detail
"I'll take Ganon due to the fact that he got one of the largest games ever to be released as opposed to an announcement of a FFVII remake."

To this site, an FF7 remake would be THE biggest game ever made. TP would pale in comparisson.
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