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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 389

BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 4:56:48 PM | message detail
Yuffie get 30% on BL?????

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/15/2006 4:56:55 PM | message detail
Barret would do well. I mean, I thought he was just a guy that would be well known, but no one really cares that much about him. Then again, I didn't know people cared about Crono either.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 4:57:33 PM | message detail
It's a matter of hardly anyone actually liking him. He'd get a lot of support sinc ehe is a FF7 character, but peope are still pretty much apathetic towards him. Peopel just really don't care about him. Not enough to like or hate him, and that puts him in a worse place than Yuffie.
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BDawg | Posted 10/15/2006 4:57:57 PM | message detail
I guess you could put the entire FFVII cast in a contest and they'd all be at least midcard but then I reserve the right to dust off "lol SquareFAQS".
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 4:59:20 PM | message detail
Ah yes, "SquareFAQs". I seem to remember SquareFAQs being 100 times worse than NintendoFAQs in terms of annoying asshats.

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 5:00:09 PM | message detail
30% isn't where I'd place her, but I don't believe it's all that crazy. She has a great role in all 3 KH games and for all the haters she still has more fans.

Really, take into consideration which FF characters in KH/2/CoM are lower than 30%, which games they are from, and how abysmally small their roles are in the KH games as compared to Yuffie's role.
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therealmnm | Posted 10/15/2006 5:37:14 PM | message detail
Yuffie's come a long way from being the annoying brat who stole all of your materia and ****ed up your combinations upon returning it. I'd say her role in Kingdom Hearts did just as much for her as it did for Squall in proportion to how popular they were already. It's not like Yuffie had a large role in FFVII. And her small role in the game did little to make a whole lot of people like her, although she does have fans from FFVII.

BUT, since then she's had KH, KH:CoM, KH2, Advent Children, AND Dirge of Cerberus to build on her image and fanbase. KH gave her a much better role, and Advent Children gave her a much better character design. She had pretty cool parts in all of them (dunno about DoC though). I'd put her at 25% Base Link at least. She would rip Kefka a new one before SFF, and I don't see her struggling with 2k5 Tommy Vercetti either. That Chun-Li to Vivi range in the 2k5 stats would seem like a good place for her. I could see her having close matches with everyone in that range.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/15/2006 5:38:15 PM | message detail
Oh snap I need to give Moltar my analysis O_O
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 5:42:12 PM | message detail
ill agree with mnm

Yuffie at 30% would disgust and confuse me.

You also have to take into consideration that badasses tend to be popular.

Squall, Auron, Vincent, all badasses. While their whiny/annoying/lame castmates such as Teedus, Yuffie or Zell would absolutely bomb (in relation to their game's popularity)

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FFDragon | Posted 10/15/2006 5:42:52 PM | message detail
Zell > Your face
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/15/2006 5:44:25 PM | message detail
Come on BT. Yuffie? Whiny? Take a look at Rikku, whose much more whinier.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 5:44:58 PM | message detail
Pfft, Chicken wuss was a lamer.

As a matter of fact, Laguna and Squal were the only good characters in that game.

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FFDragon | Posted 10/15/2006 5:45:38 PM | message detail
Zell > Most FF Characters
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 5:46:53 PM | message detail
Now that I think about it, FF8, 9 and 10 all only had 1 good character. Squall, Vivi and Auron. Ironically three respectably strong contest characters.

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therealmnm | Posted 10/15/2006 5:47:22 PM | message detail
Zell has Armageddon Fist though, so that more than makes up for it.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/15/2006 5:49:20 PM | message detail
Zell was only cool for his Tifa parody My Final Heaven
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therealmnm | Posted 10/15/2006 5:50:22 PM | message detail
Zell was only cool for his Tifa parody My Final Heaven

ARMAGEDDON MOTHER ****ING FIST!
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FFDragon | Posted 10/15/2006 5:53:12 PM | message detail
Someone else who respects Armageddon Fist.

500,000+ damage FTFW
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Who Cares? | Posted 10/15/2006 5:54:47 PM | message detail
*Looks at votals* O_O Man, this one's still ahead of Luigi/Zero pace...never would've thought this one would contend for the popular poll. Perhaps a sign of just how monsterous the later round matches will be!
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/15/2006 5:57:16 PM | message detail
Cid Highwind's Ultimate Limit Break > All, man.
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FFDragon | Posted 10/15/2006 5:58:28 PM | message detail
I never saw Cid pull in over a half-million worth of damage. >_>
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/15/2006 6:01:18 PM | message detail
I don't care, he pulls the damn Highwind out and gats start flyin <_<
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FFDragon | Posted 10/15/2006 6:03:35 PM | message detail
And yet Zell can dish out roughly 50x more punishment with just his fists than Cid can with a fully armed airship. Hmmmmmm... >_>
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Redtooth | Posted 10/15/2006 6:03:40 PM | message detail
How would Cid do in the contest? You could stretch that he'd pull votes from most FFs >_>

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therealmnm | Posted 10/15/2006 6:09:08 PM | message detail
Oh man, there so should have been a pic in the series contest with nothing but Cids.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/15/2006 6:09:52 PM | message detail
And yet Zell can dish out roughly 50x more punishment with just his fists than Cid can with a fully armed airship. Hmmmmmm... >_>

That just means Zell is taking Chris Master like steroids during Armageddon Fist.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/15/2006 6:10:45 PM | message detail
You know technically only a few of the Cids have last names if I'm not mistaken...
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Evil_REmade | Posted 10/15/2006 6:12:48 PM | message detail
Cloud > Seph > Vincent > Tifa > Aeris > Red XIII > Cid > Barret > Yuffie >>>> Cait Sith

That's how I would put the FF7 characters. Of course there's room for change between Aeris, Red, Cid, and Barret seeing as I'm not sure how much the last 3 of those are actually liked <_<
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/15/2006 6:13:19 PM | message detail
Was "hey, there's gonna be a new Zelda game" shocking at all? Really, at all? How could ANYONE be surprised that Nintendo would continue to make games for their second most popular franchise? And, really, even if it were a shock how is it even remotely close to being more shocking than the idea of getting FF7 before the end of 2k7?

Looking back at the statement again, I didn't realize that he said Final Fantasy VII remake coming out a month after the match. I thought he was talking about an announcement, which would have done practically nothing considering how everyone always expects it to be announced at some event.

As for Twilight Princess being shocking, Nintendo went throughout the entire press conference in 2004 without making any real mention of it and blew everyone away at the very end. After The Wind Waker, there was no hint that there was going to be a new Zelda announcement during then, much less that it would be a "realistic" looking Zelda. Everyone was blown away by that trailer.


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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/15/2006 6:14:25 PM | message detail
How can anybody not like Barrett, Cid, and Red?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 6:18:59 PM | message detail
If the finals don't get at least 150k I'll be surprised. I can see the Battle Royal getting up to 200k O_o

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 6:20:30 PM | message detail
Neither of those things shocked me.

Seeing FF7 in 2k7 would.
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The Real Truth | Posted 10/15/2006 6:23:43 PM | message detail
Barret > Most, especially Yuffie.
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/15/2006 6:26:20 PM | message detail
I can see the Battle Royal getting up to 200k

Behold the drawing power of Mario, Cloud, Sephiroth, and Link combined!!

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transience | Posted 10/15/2006 6:27:28 PM | message detail
now all we need is for Luigi to make the field and it'll get a million votes!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 6:30:28 PM | message detail
What I don't understand is how Luigi draws so many votes, yet until this year has failed to impress every time (except lol kosmos)

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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/15/2006 6:30:59 PM | message detail
Luigi will be there when he demolishes Sonic!

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 6:31:46 PM | message detail
Luigi did fantastic last year. The only problem is that most of us didn't beleive it even after we saw it. All Luigi has done this year is to prove we was legit last year.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2006 6:32:09 PM | message detail
He impressed against Tifa too, but his streak ends this round!!

Oh snap I need to give Moltar my analysis O_O

Yes, you do!
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Rikku vs. Kairi - Bracket: Rikku - Vote: Rikku (30/34)
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 6:35:01 PM | message detail
I've been thinking about it, and I'm starting to consider Luigi > Kirby more than likely going to happen.

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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/15/2006 6:35:54 PM | message detail
I'm starting to consider Luigi > Kirby more than likely going to happen.

There ya go!

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 6:36:43 PM | message detail
It has a fair shot of happening, bu I wouldn't bank on it. Kirby is still has pocket aces going into that match.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/15/2006 6:38:46 PM | message detail
I'm feeling very confident in Luigi, mostly because Tidus, Kirby, Ryu, and Bowser have all performed (significantly) under expectations so far.

And this match is currently just above Luigi/Zero's pace, which, of course, finished tenth for votals. There's a pretty big gap between ninth and tenth, and a very small gap between tenth and twelfth, but Rikku/Kairi is going to be way up there regardless. Which is very strange.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2006 6:40:49 PM | message detail
Really, who would have thought these two clowns would be such draws.

And Kirby is all about overcoming the odds and surprising!
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 6:42:14 PM | message detail
That's poor reasoning.

Kirby faced an unknown.
Bowser faced a character that has recieved PS2 exposure since last year
Ryu faced a character that has gained exposure in the last year
Tidus has been on the decline for awhile now, and was in a SFF match.

None of those matches are conclussive evidence about Luigi, at all.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/15/2006 6:45:15 PM | message detail
Four poor performances out of four characters from the same division that featured not one, but two, suspicious matches is a trend, I'd say.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2006 6:45:55 PM | message detail
Chich, I don't remember him saying anything about conclusive evidence. He just said that all of those matches made him feel better about it.

Although I agree with your reasoning, you don't need to post anything.

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/15/2006 6:47:20 PM | message detail
An unprovable trend, as there's little to no evidence that the expectations were anything short of off-base. Yes, it's odd, but half of those simply can't be counted on and the other half have significant reasons for a change.

I wouldn't dare put money, or even my reputation, on the line for such flismy reasonning.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/15/2006 6:47:49 PM | message detail
Knux > This contest
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FFDragon | Posted 10/15/2006 6:47:51 PM | message detail
Zell > Male Bracket
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