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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 387

Karma Hunter | Posted 10/12/2006 11:06:31 PM | message detail
Scorpion *is* the most popular MK character worldwide...however, Subby is more popular on GameFAQs for a number of reasons. Scorpion can be annoying and obnoxious, Sub-Zero is just, well, cool.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/12/2006 11:09:20 PM | message detail
Subby fell off Castlevania's rate a bit in that last hour - 1449 for CV, 1166 for SZ two hours into it. He's still looking at a very comfortable lead by morning.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/12/2006 11:09:37 PM | message detail
Think of it this way...

If we relate Pokemon to MK, the people that like Charizard (children) with like Scorpion, the people that like MewTwo (older, possibly more mature) will like Sub-Zero.

Obviously this is merely an analogy, but it does sort of illustrate the mindset of the people that like one or the other.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/12/2006 11:11:27 PM | message detail
Yeah.. MC looks like he'll actually scrape it out in the end, now that we've gotten to see thim match go a little longer. I was shocked when I looked at the score again and Subby's % had dropped a noticable amount in a rather short time frame.
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/12/2006 11:12:28 PM | message detail
Oh, and I believed Sub-Zero would be more popular than Scorp, yes...thanks to that MK character PotD. Oh, and Ice >>>>>>> Fire. Almost always.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/12/2006 11:13:33 PM | message detail
Why don't you cross-examine the parrot for a little comic relief, hmm?

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transience | Posted 10/12/2006 11:13:36 PM | message detail
hmm... you'd think that as the night vote gets more pronounced, Sub would get bigger updates. kinda like Vincent/Ganondorf.

I feel good about a 1200 vote lead in two hours though. I know not to ever count out Master Chief just because of how unpredictable he is, but a new game + a well-known character like Sub should make for a good day vote. we're not dealing with friggin' Donkey Kong here.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 10/12/2006 11:15:03 PM | message detail
Well, and I'm just basing this off nothing than my own thoughts, Donkey Kong was at least Nintendo. I'm guessing (hoping) he's not superpathetic with the day vote because of that. Sub Zero doesn't have that luxury, but then, the new game and the add I'm seeing as I type this, could make up that difference.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/12/2006 11:15:12 PM | message detail
Eh, Subby's around the percent that DK was at the beginning of his match except now with the earlier poll time we're not going to have as much of a shift, plus he's got more night vote to work with. And he shouldn't be as bad as DK was with the afterschool vote...I still think he's got this.

Though if MC turned this into a classic I would love it, and if he pulls it out that means I get to have my cake and eat it too! ^_^
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transience | Posted 10/12/2006 11:16:17 PM | message detail
DK has a hideous day vote, that's why he's known as such a choke artist. Sam Fisher cut like 7% off his initial lead.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/12/2006 11:16:19 PM | message detail
Well, and I'm just basing this off nothing than my own thoughts, Donkey Kong was at least Nintendo. I'm guessing (hoping) he's not superpathetic with the day vote because of that.

Sam Fisher was ripping off tons of percentage with the day vote. DK is a chump.
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/12/2006 11:40:25 PM | message detail
I have to make sure everyone knows...

Auron vs. Alucard - 64.40%
Auron vs. Miles "Tails" Prower - 64.47%
Auron vs. Scorpion - 64.85%
Auron vs. Ness - 65.04%

Huzzah for Auron!

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/12/2006 11:48:37 PM | message detail
Gah, it looks like the updater is an update behind.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/12/2006 11:52:39 PM | message detail
Subby is starting to pull away again. Nice.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/13/2006 12:13:24 AM | message detail
Updater is slow :(

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/13/2006 12:39:04 AM | message detail
lol I just remembered all the trash Smurf talked about Sub-Zero here, which makes this all the sweeter.

...you'd think I had this in my bracket or something!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/13/2006 1:32:33 AM | message detail
Sub-Zero has just broken 2000 votes. In another update or so, Master Chief will have to make the biggest comeback ever in terms of votes in order to win the match.
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TheSwizzle | Posted 10/13/2006 1:33:59 AM | message detail
Which poll holds the current record, if you don't mind me asking?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/13/2006 1:34:39 AM | message detail
Master Chief/Donkey Kong <________________<
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 10/13/2006 1:36:25 AM | message detail
But that's only in terms of successful comebacks. There have been a number of nearly successful comebacks that have spanned larger gaps than that.
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TheSwizzle | Posted 10/13/2006 1:37:07 AM | message detail
Like Master Hand/Kuja?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/13/2006 1:37:16 AM | message detail
Well I'm not taking those FAILURES into account, then. Stupid Duck Hunt... *grumbles*
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Redtooth | Posted 10/13/2006 1:39:25 AM | message detail
Oh, and bah at my oracle. I've had so much underestimation this contest that I went for MC with a blowout in hopes he would rekindle my dying predictions.

At least some people saw this coming though. I remember almost being influenced to change my bracket because of certain arguments of this topic. Instead, I decided to do Claire>Kairi, and stick with gut feeling for the rest. Yay for choices.

Although I believe MC has the potential to come back, I'm not holding my breath...

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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/13/2006 1:40:54 AM | message detail
Seems like this match is over, I think there are only 4 characters that could comeback after a situation like this.

Sonic, Sora, Mario (Cause he's Mario) and Masterchief..

But I wouldn't count on it.
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Redtooth | Posted 10/13/2006 1:41:09 AM | message detail
oh, and

2000 Vote Barrier Activate!


Could higher vote totals give bigger comeback margins too? Maybe this match will let us know =D

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/13/2006 1:42:10 AM | message detail
They should, by all means...if this was MC/DK 2.0 I'd be calling for DK's head on a platter right now. But Subby shouldn't be nearly as chumpish as DK was in the day, and that will make the difference here.
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MatchBoxMania | Posted 10/13/2006 1:43:14 AM | message detail
:( MC has to win.
Janus5000 | Posted 10/13/2006 1:46:17 AM | message detail
*freezes 2000 vote barrier*
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Janus5000 | Posted 10/13/2006 1:47:06 AM | message detail
Eh, I'm going to bed. Worst of luck to MC during his daily comeback.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/13/2006 1:47:54 AM | message detail
BTW if Sub-Zero wins, do you guys think his bracket support will be lower than what Starcraft had against Halo?

Personally I think that's going happen.
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Guess how many teens | Posted 10/13/2006 1:57:47 AM | message detail
If MC doesn't do anything in the next hour, this could become the biggest first round upset ever <-<
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Redtooth | Posted 10/13/2006 2:04:57 AM | message detail
Sub-Zero has a nice lead and an unknown but probably potent day vote via his new game release.

MC's day vote should still be quite powerful though. Although he doesn't have a game on it, 360 should contribute, however minutely, to some mainstream popularity. The real 'power' if you will that the 360 gives to MC is probably some stifling of anti-votes. Since it came out, there's been a huge drop of Xbox insults. Much of the 'hardcore' crowd, who'd still be up voting at this hour, are too stubborn to let go of their disdain and continue to anti-vote through the night. (or they are foreign voters where Microsoft has just never taken off)

And I'm sure his day vote in the past had to deal with some amount of anti-voting as well. Although it wasn't as pronounced because of the influx of votes for him, I'd be willing to bet that most (of the few) votes he didn't get during the day were just late anti-votes.

His past day vote and some decreased negativity towards him (and his game) should be enough to at least scare Sub-Zero sometime during the day.


That, and I just typed "Pier Sub-Zero" rather then "Pier Soderini" in my essay. Maybe I should nap and come back later >_>

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/13/2006 2:07:15 AM | message detail
Castlevania/Halo tells me that the 360 is doing little, if anything, to stifle anti-votes.
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 10/13/2006 2:47:14 AM | message detail
HOLY ****

I didn't think Sub-Zero would actually do it! XD

This is AWESOME!
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/13/2006 2:49:07 AM | message detail
Master Chief is smoked.

Compare, the following.

Vs. Frog

3:30 - 43.62%
4:00 - 42.98%

Vs. Sub-Zero

3:30 - 45.07%
4:00 - 43.59%

Master Chief is almost doing as bad here as he was against Frog.

Now, ask yourself: Does Sub-Zero's day vote suck as badly as Frog's?

...Yeah, I don't think so.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/13/2006 3:10:01 AM | message detail
Oh, and I'm using Frog because it's the only match that meets the criteria of this one.

Weekday with school in session.

His match with Crono also fits the criteria, but still another Crono character.

Actually, if Crono's day vote is better than Frog's, MC still has a chance. MC did better against Crono in that match in comparison in the day than he did against Frog. I have no idea what happened there, but if he can pull off a miracle like that, he may scrape out a 10 vote win >_>

Oh, and

Vs. Frog

3:30 - 43.62%
4:00 - 42.98%
5:00 - 43.37%

Vs. Sub-Zero

3:30 - 45.07%
4:00 - 43.59%
5:00 - 42.96%

The 5-6 time was actually WORSE against Sub than it was against Frog.

That's just nasty
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/13/2006 3:34:10 AM | message detail
Come on, Sub!
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Xuxon | Posted 10/13/2006 3:36:50 AM | message detail
The momentum shift seems to be starting (I hope).
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 10/13/2006 3:45:06 AM | message detail
So, can we agree Subby is the strongest rally character from this year's big drive?

Sure beats the hell out of Prince of Persia and Captain Falcon.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/13/2006 3:48:42 AM | message detail
Well, there seem to be a lot of people who insist that Bowser was not overrated, which technically makes Prince of Persia on par with Master Chief as well.

Yeah....
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Xuxon | Posted 10/13/2006 3:50:27 AM | message detail
Sub-Zero's easily stronger than Falcon, but who wouldn't expect that? PoP had a pretty good showing against Kirby I think, and Sub-Zero's strength will only be known for certain if he beats MC, so I wouldn't say for sure right now. But if Sub-Zero and Prince were to face off tomorrow, I'd definitely take Sub-Zero.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/13/2006 3:51:23 AM | message detail
So, now that he's going 50/50 with MC's morning vote. Who here knows what kind of gains/%wins did MC get against Frog/DK in the afterschool/weekend hours?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/13/2006 3:52:51 AM | message detail
I'm posting % comparisons between Frog and SZ as we go... if you haven't noticed.

But here's the whole Frog match before hand if you want. I didn't bother with DK since a weekend and a weekday are just too different. I started from 3:30 to negate the board vote.

Vs. Frog

3:30 - 43.62%
4:00 - 42.98%
5:00 - 43.37%
6:00 - 48.49%
7:00 - 49.05%
8:00 - 47.20%
9:00 - 46.78%
10:00 - 47.66%
11:00 - 48.00%
12:00 - 46.60%
13:00 - 47.93%
14:00 - 50.62%
15:00 - 52.37%
16:00 - 55.66%
17:00 - 54.20%
18:00 - 54.61%
19:00 - 54.41%
20:00 - 52.84%
21:00 - 51.44%
22:00 - 49.25%
23:00 - 47.08%

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/13/2006 3:54:25 AM | message detail
Oh, and just so you can marvel, here's his match with Crono

Vs. Crono

3:30 - 31.21%
4:00 - 29.59%
5:00 - 29.81%
6:00 - 32.15%
7:00 - 35.25%
8:00 - 36.74%
9:00 - 34.58%
10:00 - 33.82%
11:00 - 34.34%
12:00 - 33.14%
13:00 - 33.33%
14:00 - 33.66%
15:00 - 37.94%
16:00 - 40.77%
17:00 - 41.91%
18:00 - 43.14%
19:00 - 44.08%
20:00 - 44.89%
21:00 - 43.11%
22:00 - 43.12%
23:00 - 43.79%

CRAZINESS
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/13/2006 3:55:15 AM | message detail
Wow.. well, let's hope Sub-Zero can make a lead long enough and have a decent enough day vote.
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rpgapzx | Posted 10/13/2006 3:56:56 AM | message detail
A comeback falling short would be the best.
Or 2 more lead changes.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/13/2006 3:57:19 AM | message detail
MC just gained 2 votesw, hopefully the comebacks starts soon and the most overrated and horrible fighting game series will lose.


Muhahahahaha!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/13/2006 3:59:00 AM | message detail
This is just MC's morning vote, which I think, looking at Frog, will weaken up in a few hours.
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Master Chief vs. Sub-Zero / Bracket: Sub-Zero / Vote: Sub-Zero (29/31)
Tomorrow / Bracket: Samus / Vote: Samus
Xuxon | Posted 10/13/2006 3:59:18 AM | message detail
What about midnight-3am numbers?
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jonthomson | Posted 10/13/2006 3:59:36 AM | message detail
Hmm, this could be interesting.
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