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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 387

Haste_2 | Posted 10/12/2006 10:19:20 PM | message detail
*comes back from rehearsal*

ZOMG Sub-Zero is winning! What a surprise! I guess MC never gained from Halo 2, then? Or maybe it's just Sub-Zero's version of Mario vs. Cloud, with MK: Armeggedon out and being #1 on the FAQs.

Regardless, I didn't give Sub-Zero enough credit. I'll be sad to lose a point (assuming Sub-Zero keeps going in this way), but I'd vote for almost anybody over MC...what a dull character. I like the Halo games, though.

Oh, and since DK actually managed as high as 55% on DK, I wouldn't call this match over.

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transience | Posted 10/12/2006 10:19:37 PM | message detail
I still didn't like the Falcon nomination.. it was just yet another SSBM character. I nominated POP and Sub though and am loving the results!
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SecksThaNemesis | Posted 10/12/2006 10:19:47 PM | message detail
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2006 10:20:04 PM | message detail
As for the nominations argument, Phoenix got a 4 seed mainly because of the Objection site. Remember that the most nominated characters probably get less than 1000 noms and Board 8 can get whatever characters they want in.

I mean, I got Carmen in, despite her completely bombing =(

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therealmnm | Posted 10/12/2006 10:20:46 PM | message detail
Poll-time... and all that jazz. Don't expect any Master Chief Miracles.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2006 10:20:53 PM | message detail
Uhhh, Haste, Halo 2 has been out for almost 2 years now <_<

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transience | Posted 10/12/2006 10:21:34 PM | message detail
man, Sub is just destroying the Chief here. Sub > Ryu bandwagon has begun!
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/12/2006 10:21:48 PM | message detail
I would like to see MC lose just so he can be low in the x-stats...then FINALLY we won't have to worry about over-rating the Chief. :p

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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/12/2006 10:22:07 PM | message detail
Yeah, and in 2k3 Scorpion is expected to lose a close match to MC. So Halo 2 didn't do much unless Subby is quite a ways ahead of Scorpion, which is unlikely.
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dethfdddddh | Posted 10/12/2006 10:22:29 PM | message detail
While Sub>Ryu is a WEE bit too drastic, Kratos/MC needs to take place.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 10/12/2006 10:22:35 PM | message detail
Something I haven't thought of: With halo lacking a recent title, and still having yet to release a game on the 360 could possibly weaken MC. He might be even weaker then the DK struggling one we saw last year.
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transience | Posted 10/12/2006 10:23:18 PM | message detail
you know, I just realized.. we get Auron/Sub instead of Auron/Scorpion.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/12/2006 10:24:11 PM | message detail
At an hour and 20 minutes into the match, Sub is up by almost 1000. To compare, Donkey Kong wasn't even winning by 500.

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Haste_2 | Posted 10/12/2006 10:24:25 PM | message detail
Uhhh, Haste, Halo 2 has been out for almost 2 years now <_<

Well, I'm just assuming MC 2K6 = MC 2K5, and that MC never boosted from Halo 2 before 2K5. But, maybe MC -has- a fallen a bit, his game being a year older and all...

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therealmnm | Posted 10/12/2006 10:24:44 PM | message detail
Yeah, and if Sub-Zero outperforms Scorpion, there is no doubting whatsoever that Sub-Zero > Scorpion, seeing how Auron should be a lot stronger now.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 10/12/2006 10:25:09 PM | message detail
Ugh. Why didn't anyone mention a new Mortal Kombat game coming out the day of the match? Or did I just miss that?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2006 10:25:41 PM | message detail
From Shivan Reincarnated Posted 10/13/2006 1:24:11 AM
At an hour and 20 minutes into the match, Sub is up by almost 1000. To compare, Donkey Kong wasn't even winning by 500.

Higher votals, different start time etc...

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King Bowser | Posted 10/12/2006 10:25:48 PM | message detail
This site sucks. Hard.

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transience | Posted 10/12/2006 10:25:48 PM | message detail
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Sub would be winning this without Armageddon.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 10/12/2006 10:26:29 PM | message detail
Huh, looks like MC still has some fight left in him. And yes I'm aware that update was probably just an anomaly.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2006 10:27:19 PM | message detail
From FastFalcon05 Posted 10/13/2006 1:25:09 AM
Ugh. Why didn't anyone mention a new Mortal Kombat game coming out the day of the match? Or did I just miss that?

Considering steve wouldn't shut up about it pre-contest, I'm surprised you missed it.

And Haste, what did I tell you about using stats with MC.

If he loses, I guarentee you Subby absolutely bombs against Auron resulting in a severly UNDERrated MC.

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Haste_2 | Posted 10/12/2006 10:27:22 PM | message detail
Don't you mean this site has good taste?

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FastFalcon05 | Posted 10/12/2006 10:28:06 PM | message detail

Considering steve wouldn't shut up about it pre-contest, I'm surprised you missed it.


Hm. MC still has a shot at this though; all hope isn't lost.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 10/12/2006 10:28:18 PM | message detail
Haha! No early result has put this large a smile on my face since CATS/Ansem!

Now, we all know that MC made up a 2500 advantage against DK. But will he be able to make the ~2000 during the Day he's going to need against Subby... without HBO?

dun dun DUN!

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King Bowser | Posted 10/12/2006 10:28:34 PM | message detail
Don't you mean this site has good taste?

That is impossible when something Mortal Kombat wins anything.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/12/2006 10:29:21 PM | message detail
Assuming that we won't get any funky over/underperforming from Subby against Auron or down that chain, I'm taking that value as canon until Halo 3 comes out...and maybe even afterward.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 10/12/2006 10:29:24 PM | message detail
Wasn't HBO somewhat marginal? Or at least not...terribly important? MC starts out close, but he doesn't usually finish that way.
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SecksThaNemesis | Posted 10/12/2006 10:29:45 PM | message detail
Mortal Kombat > Zelda
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therealmnm | Posted 10/12/2006 10:29:54 PM | message detail
If he loses, I guarentee you Subby absolutely bombs against Auron resulting in a severly UNDERrated MC.

Because Frog went and made MC look like straight crap. Same with Aeris... Same with Crono...
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BeTheMan | Posted 10/12/2006 10:30:07 PM | message detail
Wow, the votals are fantastic up to this point, much better than I expected out of these two. And Subby seems to be all over the place during these last few updates...hmm.
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2006 10:30:27 PM | message detail
Remember that the most nominated characters probably get less than 1000 noms and Board 8 can get whatever characters they want in.

This contest had 40,000 entries. Even if the nominations are nowhere near that, I can virtually guaran-damn-tee that Link alone had way more than 1,000 nominations - despite the fact that he wasn't supposed to be eligible :)


I wonder what the limits to Master Chief's magical jobber powers are. I'd like to see something like Master Chief vs. Marth next year.
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BDawg | Posted 10/12/2006 10:30:54 PM | message detail
Chief would probably do better on Auron than Subzero just because he's stupid like that.
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Lopen | Posted 10/12/2006 10:32:07 PM | message detail
I'm liking this stall.

We all know you can pull a 5000 vote comeback, Chief... but you don't need to.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2006 10:32:13 PM | message detail
Also: BOLD PREDICTION: steve comes back to gloat about this match if Subby wins.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/12/2006 10:32:18 PM | message detail
This match is a bit behind CV/Halo in votals, which finished with 111k votes. That's not really fantastic when Luigi/Zero can break 130k...
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2006 10:32:50 PM | message detail
ACTIVATE 1000 VOTE BARRIER!

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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/12/2006 10:32:52 PM | message detail
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2006 10:33:28 PM | message detail
I'm not sure how much Armageddon is really affecting this. When I first saw the bracket I had no idea about that game, but my first instinct was to wonder if Sub-Zero might be the favorite here. I ended up going with MC and agreeing with other posters that Sub-Zero could win, and not giving the match much thought after that. I don't think Sub-Zero would necessarily need Armageddon to help him keep this match close, though it's really hard to say anything with confidence.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2006 10:33:51 PM | message detail
And somebody said something about this being a school day hurting MC: the votals remain generally the same, it's just that the "kiddy" vote is concentrated all in one place on weekdays.

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SecksThaNemesis | Posted 10/12/2006 10:34:30 PM | message detail
You know, that makes me ask, where did steve run off to and why?
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BDawg | Posted 10/12/2006 10:35:14 PM | message detail
With all the factors and junk people want to throw out I think the #1 FAQ is a pretty good factor. Whether Master Chump would lose anyway, well I guess that will just depend on how close it ends up being.
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Kyle Bowen | Posted 10/12/2006 10:35:18 PM | message detail
Squall kicks ass.


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SonicRaptor | Posted 10/12/2006 10:35:23 PM | message detail
I honestly laughed when I saw Sub-Zero ahead of Master Chief.

Anyways, let's replace Sub-Zero with Scorpion; who is arguably the most popular MK character and the icon of the series (odd he didn't make it into this contest). How would he fare against MC?
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2006 10:37:16 PM | message detail
With all the factors and junk people want to throw out I think the #1 FAQ is a pretty good factor.

I didn't see that. Perhaps I'm underrating it's influence.

Before this match, I was thinking that if Sub-Zero won/kept it close that people would credit Armageddon for it, and I thought this would be the wrong thing to do. But maybe it is having some impact.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2006 10:39:22 PM | message detail
From SecksThaNemesis Posted 10/13/2006 1:34:30 AM
You know, that makes me ask, where did steve run off to and why?

He lost his perfect on Celes/Boss and held up the contest tradition of him fading into obscurity after he gets his first match wrong.

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SonicRaptor | Posted 10/12/2006 10:39:25 PM | message detail
That reminds me: I have to check into my local Best Buy tomorrow to see if Armageddon is in.
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2006 10:39:25 PM | message detail
Actually I shouldn't say MC has magical jobber powers...more like magical "People have been screwed over by Master Chief and every time they say they won't pick him again, yet they still pick him because he's facing someone whose strength they don't trust and he lets them down again" powers.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/12/2006 10:39:59 PM | message detail
Anyways, let's replace Sub-Zero with Scorpion; who is arguably the most popular MK character and the icon of the series (odd he didn't make it into this contest). How would he fare against MC?

He might be winning, but it would be *really* close. Sub-Zero is more popular here, and the Lin Kuei warrior is doing everything in his power to show us that right now.
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BeTheMan | Posted 10/12/2006 10:41:12 PM | message detail
This match is a bit behind CV/Halo in votals, which finished with 111k votes. That's not really fantastic when Luigi/Zero can break 130k...

As far as this contest goes, I believe that only two other matches hit the 15k mark by 1:30 AM: Ganondorf/Vincent and Tifa/Ivy. This match should land in the mid-to-high 120's, which is pretty solid.
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2006 10:41:13 PM | message detail
I've been a part of the Sub-Zero>Scorpion group myself. I wasn't overly certain of it, but it made the most sense. Sub-Zero was more popular back in the day.
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