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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 386

AmazingKirby | Posted 10/12/2006 2:33:31 PM | message detail
I'm better than 98.9237% of the bracket makers! Yaaaay.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2006 2:34:23 PM | message detail
Oh, never mind, just saw the sticky

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/12/2006 2:36:31 PM | message detail
Would the changes affect cn's updater? It hasn't caught the last two updates. Maybe it's just a coincidence though.
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2006 2:36:48 PM | message detail
Ganon IS the underdog when facing Vincent and Squall as far as I am concerned.

Well, obviously. But I was talking about them as a group. Vincent already won and Squall would probably be favored over Ganon now, but Auron is more debatable. He would probably be considered 50/50 at least though.


And what's with the black bars now? The blue bars were tradition. Such a minor, yet unnecessary change. They're also too small. Not a big deal, but I don't see the point.
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2006 2:38:13 PM | message detail
Would the changes affect cn's updater? It hasn't caught the last two updates. Maybe it's just a coincidence though.

Oh goddamnit...you gotta be kidding. This sucks. More time wasted for me...
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/12/2006 2:38:39 PM | message detail
I'm seeing blue bars, not black.

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wavedash101 | Posted 10/12/2006 2:38:55 PM | message detail
I still see the blue bars. Whats going on?
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/12/2006 2:39:14 PM | message detail
The bars are still blue for me, but it did get a whole lot uglier.
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Samurai7 | Posted 10/12/2006 2:39:20 PM | message detail
They're def black.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/12/2006 2:39:37 PM | message detail
I'm better than 98.9237% of the bracket makers! Yaaaay.

How do you check that?
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/12/2006 2:40:58 PM | message detail
Maybe the bar color depends on your message board display settings...

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Samurai7 | Posted 10/12/2006 2:41:03 PM | message detail
Its on the new stats page, but it wouldn't have been hard to figure out before.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/12/2006 2:41:34 PM | message detail
It doesn't look that bad... I think it'd be better if the percent and individual votes were bolded though... wasn't that how it was before?

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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/12/2006 2:41:38 PM | message detail
Percentile in the contest stats.

And my bars were black, but then they turned blue.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/12/2006 2:42:57 PM | message detail
Well there we go....CjayC posted in a nonsticky topic...insta 500,000 topic...>_>
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cdw01 | Posted 10/12/2006 2:48:10 PM | message detail
I can't believe I picked Alucard to win this match. V_V There goes my perfect.
THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/12/2006 2:48:16 PM | message detail
Yep, it definitely affected the updater.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/12/2006 2:49:06 PM | message detail
Heroic Citan | Posted 10/12/2006 5:34:54 PM | message detail
Was your bracket a favorites bracket?

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CJayC | Posted 10/12/2006 5:39:02 PM | message detail
Actually, it was my test bracket that I filled out when making sure the form worked. I forgot to update it after that, cursing myself to a poor showing.


It all makes sense!

Or does it...?
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/12/2006 2:49:26 PM | message detail
I wonder what the correct percentage rate of this match will be...assuming Alucard doesn't appeal too much to the casuals these days, I'll wager 73.24%
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/12/2006 2:49:45 PM | message detail
How so? Mine is still updating normally...though I still have the blue bars. Maybe that has something to do with it?
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/12/2006 2:52:39 PM | message detail
Alucard doesn't have that bad of bracket support...37% had him beating Ganondorf a couple years back, and Sora lost a ton of prediction percentage after beating Alucard. Auron's bracket support isn't that good, given his strength.

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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/12/2006 2:53:39 PM | message detail
Sora lost a ton of prediction percentage after beating Alucard

Sora/Alucard was actually a debated match.
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2006 2:55:05 PM | message detail
I think Auron's bracket support will be pretty good this year.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/12/2006 2:57:04 PM | message detail
whoa, that did break the updater. looks like we need manual updates again!
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trannyscience | Posted 10/12/2006 2:57:51 PM | message detail
woo, it's back!
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2006 2:59:04 PM | message detail
Changed the regex so it should be working again. If Ceej changes the page again though, e.g. bolding the entrants/votes, I'll have to fix it again.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/12/2006 3:00:04 PM | message detail
Wow, that was like a 30 minute update.

I just thought of how novel it would be to have 1 hour/30 minute updates!
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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/12/2006 3:33:40 PM | message detail
I love how every match according to BT points to Yoshi > Dante, even when it has absolutely no relevance, or actually favors Dante.

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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/12/2006 3:47:42 PM | message detail
On a completely unrelated note, I wish every person who overreacts to Ceej posting would get KoS'd. It would make the boards a much better place.

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therealmnm | Posted 10/12/2006 3:47:44 PM | message detail
Hey Leon, do you still not respect Auron's strength from before? Or are you attributing all of this to KH2? :P
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therealmnm | Posted 10/12/2006 3:49:00 PM | message detail
If he's around... I just got back from the Naval base out here on the West Coast. Anything interesting happen today besides that CJayC topic?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/12/2006 3:50:38 PM | message detail
I don't see how this wouldn't be all attributed to KH2. We all remember what it did for Cloud, Sephiroth, and Squall, right? Expecting Auron to at least not get a slice of that massive pie would be a bit silly...like I said, I favor him over Ganon now.

The idea that he wasn't going to benefit it as much because FFX was already on the PS2 always seemed a bit nutty to me. It's...stretching.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/12/2006 3:52:39 PM | message detail
Plus Auron had the best role out of any of them. He was a party member, and a pretty awesome one at that.
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/12/2006 3:54:53 PM | message detail
We won't know how Auron was before this year until Yuna and Ganondorf give us an idea (no, I won't use Vincent vs. Ganondorf, since Vincent had new stuff). I've always believed Auron was about equal to Zero 2K5, though.

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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/12/2006 3:55:00 PM | message detail
Couldn't tell you! Just got home not too long ago... but I definitely attribute this to Auron being stronger last year, thanks to Samus/Ganon etc. underratedness. Which makes Vincent even stronger, and using good ol' EC stats, Vincent ends up 1% below Sonic in the lol x'ers.

And that's assuming a very tame Samus underrating.

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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/12/2006 3:56:53 PM | message detail
I don't see how this wouldn't be all attributed to KH2. We all remember what it did for Cloud, Sephiroth, and Squall, right? Expecting Auron to at least not get a slice of that massive pie would be a bit silly...like I said, I favor him over Ganon now.

Going from 2K2 to 2K3 plenty of other characters not involved with Square take random twists and turns too, I don't know what's so hard to believe that things are just different between 2K2 and 2K3. Sure KH can have an affect on the contest, but a minimal one at best. Honestly, if the original KHF is true, and it's dependant on the size of the role, Seph is beating Link this year, thanks to KH2.

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/12/2006 4:03:50 PM | message detail
Hey Leon, do you still not respect Auron's strength from before? Or are you attributing all of this to KH2? :P

Did I say I didn't respect his strength? I merely said I questioned it in regards to people using it to judge Vincent/Ganondorf, and hey, guess what? My questions weren't exactly unfounded!

I don't know about all of this being KHII. In my opinion, Alucard is gradually weakening. Heck, looking at a constant Ryu from 2005 and Alucard's value in 2004 (which COULD be overrated), it's not certain that he'd even beat Kratos now. Auron certainly received his fair share from KHII, no doubt about it, but I don't think this performance is ALL him.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/12/2006 4:04:42 PM | message detail
Honestly, if the original KHF is true, and it's dependant on the size of the role, Seph is beating Link this year, thanks to KH2

Sephy was already exposed to the KH crowd. Auron wasnt yet, thats why he is a different case. Thus Sephy may boost, but I wouldnt be as large as an Auron boost.
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therealmnm | Posted 10/12/2006 4:05:00 PM | message detail
I don't see how this wouldn't be all attributed to KH2. We all remember what it did for Cloud, Sephiroth, and Squall, right? Expecting Auron to at least not get a slice of that massive pie would be a bit silly...like I said, I favor him over Ganon now.

That was specifically to Leon... I remember in your topic how he said he didn't really respect Auron's strength in 2k5 since he lost to Ganon, while I said I always considered Auron to be a near-elite... Not quite up with Squall and Co, but certainly within their range. He just lost to Ganon. Not every match between people close to each other in strength goes 50-50. I definitely put Auron in Squall's class after this.
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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/12/2006 4:06:52 PM | message detail
Sephy was already exposed to the KH crowd. Auron wasnt yet, thats why he is a different case. Thus Sephy may boost, but I wouldnt be as large as an Auron boost.

Completely optional boss fight vs. Probably the most epic part in KH2. Hmmm! And if it's only about exposing them for the first time, how many people are suddenly going to become hardcore Cloud fans because of a ridiculously small cameo in a game? It doesn't make sense.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/12/2006 4:15:08 PM | message detail
Meh, I'd say that FFX has a far larger overlap with KH/2 than FFVII/FFVIII do, so I wouldn't expect Auron to get nearly as big of boost from KH2 as the increases we saw in 2k3.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/12/2006 4:16:36 PM | message detail
Oh I agree that the Square boost in 2k3 may not be all KH. Though if you are implying that KH is a non factor, thats a little farfetched.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/12/2006 4:19:03 PM | message detail
Oh I agree that the Square boost in 2k3 may not be all KH. Though if you are implying that KH is a non factor, thats a little farfetched.

Unless they have a VERY significant role in the game, then yeah, I'm saying it does virtually nothing. Auron in this case could be a beneficiary from KH2, but I don't think it's anything really big. We see characters get entirely new games and boost maybe 3% or so, yet people want me to believe little small cameo's of FF characters are going to do some serious boosting? Sorry if I think it's extremely far fetched.

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wavedash101 | Posted 10/12/2006 4:21:41 PM | message detail
Then is there any explaination for the boost?
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/12/2006 4:22:32 PM | message detail
I remember in your topic how he said he didn't really respect Auron's strength in 2k5 since he lost to Ganon

Again, not a lack of respect, just a questioning of the whole "Auron beats Dante, no problem, and since they did about the same on these opponents, that means Ganondorf wins!" And once again, it wasn't entirely unfounded. But either way, Auron losing to Ganondorf did make me rethink just how strong he really was because 45% was what I would have expected on a Noble Niner out of Auron instead of Ganondorf.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/12/2006 4:23:32 PM | message detail
2K3? How about looking at all the other characters who mysteriously boost and drop from 2K2 to 2K3, that aren't in KH? It's called having half the amount of votes from one contest to another. The site went through a major overhaul from 2K2 to 2K3, it just became different. Different fanbase, different everything.

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trannyscience | Posted 10/12/2006 4:25:02 PM | message detail
yet I saw you say Snake > Squall because of 2k2. what gives?
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/12/2006 4:25:08 PM | message detail
Yeah I can agree with that.
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therealmnm | Posted 10/12/2006 4:26:10 PM | message detail
About the first KH, you have to take into account a bunch of factors in it. The vote totals from 2k3 were a lot more than those in 2k2.

Throw in a voter shift and you would expect a difference in match outcomes. Also, with KH it was the first time we had seen Cloud and Sephiroth in almost six years. Squall didn't have quite as much a gap, but Squall also became more likeable in his KH cameo. With Auron, the gap between his last apperance wasn't nearly as wide, and his character in KH2 was pretty consistent with his FFX character, so it's not like we saw him in a new light.

So yeah, I wouldn't expect Auron to increase as much as Cloud/Sephiroth/Squall. I think he was pretty strong BEFORE KH2...
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/12/2006 4:27:21 PM | message detail
yet I saw you say Snake > Squall because of 2k2. what gives?

I think Snake is a little bit above Squall anyway in 2K2, but yes, I still expect their to be something weird in that match. Plus after seeing Snake/Sora it gives me a bit more confidence that Snake is capable of dealing out some sort of PS SFF, if you wish to call it that.

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