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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 385

Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 10/11/2006 1:15:06 PM | message detail
I don't see how anyone can deny the picture affected Snake/Frog in a big way. We have evidence on both sides now, with Link/Magus suggesting CT characters overperform with sprites and Bowser/Snake suggesting Snake underperforms with his sprites. It's not like this is just a wild guess. I also don't agree with "momentum" having anything to do with this contest.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/11/2006 1:16:30 PM | message detail
Too bad your face, KH!!!

But yeah, it's really hard to trust Bowser's 2005 number after this, even factoring in a Leon boost. How much (percent wise) does it look like Leon boosted and Bowser was overrated by?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/11/2006 1:16:45 PM | message detail
I don't see how anyone can deny the picture affected Snake/Frog in a big way.

HM is debating about Snake/Bowser, not Snake/Frog.
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Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII.
XxSoulxX | Posted 10/11/2006 1:17:15 PM | message detail
I think it was an 8% boost by Leon if Bowser is not overrated.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/11/2006 1:21:43 PM | message detail
Assuming Bowser finishes with 56%...

If Bowser wasn't overrated at all and/or hasn't dropped since 2k5 (characters can drop, y'know...), Leon boosted around 4.5% on BL, putting him around Zero 2k5's level (what a coinkidink).

If Leon didn't boost at all, Bowser drops around 5% on BL, putting him at Luigi 2k5's level.

...I'm not keen on buying either explanation.
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/11/2006 1:23:13 PM | message detail
Hrm...Bowser does poorly, affecting Rikku for the worse, and Leon Kennedy and the KH2 gang do well, perhaps making Kairi and Claire Redfield look better. And, maybe Kairi is a little above Axel. Finally, take away Rikku's TJF (er, if it effects any character as of late, it'd be Rikku) she had in her past matches. Kairi vs. Rikku will be the Pokemon/Metroid of the tournament. Of course, nobody will believe it, since...well, obviously it wouldn't so shocking if somebody believed it!

Oh, and for that matter, since Chun Li gets effected by a possibly overrated Bowser, that makes Lara Croft, couple with her new hit, do that much better.

Kairi gets 45+% on Rikku!
Lara Croft gets 45+% on Chun Li!

...maaaaaaybe one of those two could actually happen, and I say Lara Croft is more likely to pull it off...

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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/11/2006 1:23:39 PM | message detail
8%? Hardly. It's a 5% boost, aka Leon = Knux 2K5. Or I can believe what I believed prior to this match, which got me dead on. It's a combo of Bowser being overrated, and Leon boosting.

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/11/2006 1:24:45 PM | message detail
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/11/2006 1:24:59 PM | message detail
I like the combo of 34%+ for Bowser and 30% for Leon.

Well, works for me.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/11/2006 1:25:17 PM | message detail
EC, your repetition of that makes me keen to disregard your argument, not take it into account. HM and Mega Man/Tidus illustrate how someone can predict something so right and yet be SO ****ING WRONG
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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/11/2006 1:25:41 PM | message detail
I like the combo of 34%+ for Bowser and 30% for Leon.

Well, works for me.


It's actually 33.5% for Bowsah, and 30% for Leon, which is my splendid concoction!

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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/11/2006 1:26:40 PM | message detail
EC, your repetition of that makes me keen to disregard your argument, not take it into account. HM and Mega Man/Tidus illustrate how someone can predict something so right and yet be SO ****ING WRONG

I demand some R-E-S-P-E-C-T, find out what it means to me, sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me Uh-huh!

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/11/2006 1:27:00 PM | message detail
That would be if the match ends at 55.2%.

I think Bowser may bring this closer to 56%.
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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/11/2006 1:27:57 PM | message detail
55.5% actually.

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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/11/2006 1:28:44 PM | message detail
Okay, nevermind we're both equally wrong, 53.35!

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/11/2006 1:28:45 PM | message detail
Anyone think Leon could have possibled got SFF'd from Mega Man? >_> Just tossing random stuff out now.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/11/2006 1:28:53 PM | message detail
55.5% would require a 33.73 Bowser.
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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/11/2006 1:29:17 PM | message detail
Anyone think Leon could have possibled got SFF'd from Mega Man? >_> Just tossing random stuff out now.

Yes. And Kirby SFF'd PoP.

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/11/2006 1:29:39 PM | message detail
Why is Bowser going to have a close match with Luigi now?

Because GameFAQs is slowly but surely coming to its senses! Watch out! Luigi to break the Noble Nine in 2007!

there really isn't a Bowser > Crono bandwagon. Heroic Mario is just loud.

To be fair, Dragonair put it out there first.
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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/11/2006 1:30:04 PM | message detail
***55.35. Jesus Christ, I keep messing up.

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/11/2006 1:35:05 PM | message detail
So Leon is at or around 30%. That's awesome.

Bowser in the low-mid 30's though, not so much. Such a depressing sight if Squall ends up as the strongest non-Noble Niner this Contest (yeah, I went there!!)
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cyko | Posted 10/11/2006 1:53:03 PM | message detail
with all of this craziness of where Bowser and Leon lie in relation to everyone else going around, i'm still surprised that Bowser really isn't getting a day vote. WTF!?! i guess Dekar was right about that one last night...

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trannyscience | Posted 10/11/2006 1:53:36 PM | message detail
Bowser not getting a day vote isn't really a surprise. he's not like Mario or other Nintendo characters.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/11/2006 1:54:51 PM | message detail
So what's Bowser's best time? Morning?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/11/2006 1:55:02 PM | message detail
Megaman didn't really make much progress on Leon during the day either.

Leon ain't no slouch!
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/11/2006 1:56:23 PM | message detail
Such a depressing sight if Squall ends up as the strongest non-Noble Niner this Contest (yeah, I went there!!)

It's not like I've been saying Squall would be 10th strongest since the end of the last contest or anything!
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/11/2006 1:58:34 PM | message detail
I couldn't bear to read such lies!
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trannyscience | Posted 10/11/2006 1:59:02 PM | message detail
it seems to be overnight. I haven't looked at it that closely, but I recall that being the only time he really beat on Kirby.

Bowser's not hideous in the daytime or anything, but he's not great either. he's kind of balanced.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/11/2006 1:59:43 PM | message detail
Luckily, Snake will SFF Squall, and Luigi will pull a Shadow and end up tenth!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/11/2006 2:00:39 PM | message detail
Yeah if I see Luigi in tenth I'm kinda calling a Shadow on that
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/11/2006 2:01:59 PM | message detail
More like Vincent will do so well on Sonic (who does well on Crono), that Ganondorf ends over Squall!

And Luigi won't be getting to Sonic because of a puffball called Kirby in his path!
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/11/2006 2:03:58 PM | message detail
Then I'll have to look forward to another year of people underrating the man in green, until he stars in Super Luigi Galaxy and wins the main bracket!

...Hey, I can dream!
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/11/2006 2:04:18 PM | message detail
Luckily, Snake will SFF Squall

Luckily, this is a load of crap and won't happen!
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Kyle Bowen | Posted 10/11/2006 2:04:48 PM | message detail
Lara Croft gets 55%+ on Chun Li!

Fix'D

Don't forget that Squall will be Neo Noble Nine this summer....
From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 2/18/2006 1:56:40 AM | Message Detail | #001
Just a reminder.


Squall will be the strongest NNN character... well second... I still think Vincent is stronger until I see otherwise.


KB
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/11/2006 2:05:36 PM | message detail
Luckily, this is a load of crap and won't happen!

How quickly things change when Squall actually has to go up against Snake again! <_<
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Tediz247 | Posted 10/11/2006 2:30:23 PM | message detail
So I come home and this match is exactly where it was when I left. Either Leon has a pretty good day vote or Bowser's on Ganondorf's level with it. I was expecting Bowser to push for around 57% with the after school vote, too.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/11/2006 2:40:57 PM | message detail
How quickly things change when Squall actually has to go up against Snake again! <_<

Meh, the disparity between Squall and Snake is much less this time, to the point where an overperformance won't occur.
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creativename | Posted 10/11/2006 2:47:00 PM | message detail
Wait. Is Sir Auron Heroic Mario?

Yes.


That's what I figured...my "I think I'm debating with Heroic Mario" Sense started going off :)

Regarding this match though, I really don't get how a semi-generic gun toting guy like Leon is able to hang so well with the iconicness that is Bowser. He's freaking royalty, both video game royalty and continuity royalty as the Koopa King...he's a fire-breathing Turtlesaurus Rex! He should be whooping ass here.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/11/2006 2:49:35 PM | message detail
Y'know, you can easily classify Snake as a 'semi-generic gun-toting guy' as well...Leon definitely does a lot of things to distinguish himself in RE4 from your average grunt, is all I'm saying.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/11/2006 2:54:05 PM | message detail
Semi-generic gun-toting guy?

...If you say so.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/11/2006 2:55:16 PM | message detail
Leon is quite the boring character, really.

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/11/2006 2:56:09 PM | message detail
Well, there are plenty of boring characters who aren't generic. One doesn't necessarily imply the other.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/11/2006 2:58:11 PM | message detail
Between the insane **** he pulls in RE4 (the laser corridor immediately comes to mind) and his awesomely cornball lines that he's always quick to make at the drop of a hat, I wouldn't call Leon boring at all. Sure, he's not a particularly deep character, but we're talking about video games here. <_<
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/11/2006 2:58:49 PM | message detail
Okay. Leon is boring and generic. Solid Snake>>>>>>him.

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BDawg | Posted 10/11/2006 2:59:02 PM | message detail
I don't know I have a bad feeling Bowser is about to carry on the proud tradition of noble 9 breakers getting exposed.
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The Real Truth | Posted 10/11/2006 2:59:29 PM | message detail
Leon is so much better than Bowser.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/11/2006 2:59:29 PM | message detail
From Karma Hunter Posted 10/11/2006 2:58:11 PM
Between the insane **** he pulls in RE4 (the laser corridor immediately comes to mind) and his awesomely cornball lines that he's always quick to make at the drop of a hat, I wouldn't call Leon boring at all. Sure, he's not a particularly deep character, but we're talking about video games here. <_<

See, the difference is that I don't particularly care for cheese in videogames. Yes, I do remember your writeup about him.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/11/2006 2:59:41 PM | message detail
I don't know I have a bad feeling Bowser is about to carry on the proud tradition of noble 9 breakers getting exposed.

And what a proud tradition it is!
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trannyscience | Posted 10/11/2006 3:01:22 PM | message detail
I'm starting to think that every "noble nine breaker" is going to get badly exposed and we're going to see no one within 2% or so. I could see Vincent being #10 and Ganondorf #11 at this point.
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creativename | Posted 10/11/2006 3:01:54 PM | message detail
I don't know I have a bad feeling Bowser is about to carry on the proud tradition of noble 9 breakers getting exposed.

Curse of the Magusbino?
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