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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 384

Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2006 9:34:16 PM | message detail
Damn, okay, Leon doesn't seem to be stopping here. Preliminary thoughts:

-I definitely am not buying a second Nintendo boost at this point
-If Bowser was overrated, that makes me feel much better about Snake/Squall. Unfortunately, I feel approximately one bazillion times worse about Snake/Mega Man
-I'm not feeling a NSMB boost here, meaning Zero dropping seems more likely
-I don't think Kratos boosted significantly
-;_; Kirby

YAY NOT EVEN A HALF HOUR INTO THE MATCH CONCLUSIONS!!!
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Yesmar | Posted 10/10/2006 9:35:05 PM | message detail
I'm fairly certain PS2 RE4 only outsold the Gamecube version in Japan. In America, the Gamecube one's still ahead if I recall correctly.
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Sir Auron | Posted 10/10/2006 9:35:06 PM | message detail
Just because Nintendo hasn't flat out dominated and overperformed in all of its matches don't mean that they have been lackluster. Square did have a crapload of stuff come out within the past year -- Kingdom Hearts II, Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus, etc. Nintendo mostly had in its corner the great showing at E3, DS Lite release, and New Super Mario Bros. Considering the opponents Nintendo has faced were all primarily Square, you'd have to expect them to not do quite as well as last year.

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MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/10/2006 9:35:26 PM | message detail
Squall > Bowser

That'd make me feel better about my Squall > Snake upset pick if it didn't seem like Snake's gonna be on steroids this contest.

Too bad we got stuck with the female bracket on a year when things are getting really interesting. Nintendo's moved down, Square's moved up, it's 2003 all over again besides Luigi getting a surprise victory instead of a surprise defeat.

Again, a real shame we had the female bracket when we could've had potentially the greatest contest yet.
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Hispanics 2 | Whites 5
Asians 5 | Blacks 4
Haste_2 | Posted 10/10/2006 9:35:40 PM | message detail
I shouldn't have let the thought of Leon approaching 30% on BL get to me...because it looks like his PS2 release just might have brought him to that level. I suppose Jill Valentine being at 27% on BL back in 2002 should've been a sign that RE characters can actually be strong.

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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/10/2006 9:35:44 PM | message detail
54% for that update
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transience | Posted 10/10/2006 9:35:56 PM | message detail
57-56-55-54!
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Who Cares? | Posted 10/10/2006 9:36:11 PM | message detail
Bowser might win the day vote, but he's not gonna go all Kairi on Leon.

I dunno, I mean if Sheena could go crazy on Jill in the after-school hours...*shrug* we'll see.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/10/2006 9:36:30 PM | message detail
Jill > Peach!


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NewLib | Posted 10/10/2006 9:36:56 PM | message detail
So here is the real question: Zero or Leon?
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/10/2006 9:37:31 PM | message detail
Leon
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Sir Auron | Posted 10/10/2006 9:37:42 PM | message detail
Resident Evil 4 sold 810,000 on the GCN and 610,000 on the PS2, both for America. That's a significant increase to the fanbase no matter how you slice it, even if it didn't outsell the GCN version.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/10/2006 9:37:52 PM | message detail
Bowser is getting his face bashed in here.
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Aprosenf | Posted 10/10/2006 9:38:26 PM | message detail
As a big Mega Man fan, it pains me to say that I think Leon would beat Zero at this point.
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MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/10/2006 9:38:27 PM | message detail
So here is the real question: Zero or Leon?

I'd easily pick Zero before this contest, but now I'd actually lean toward Leon.

I think MM and Zero are starting to show their age. People can only take so many EXE games.
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Sir Auron | Posted 10/10/2006 9:38:28 PM | message detail
Bowser is getting his face bashed in here.

Winner updates, winning the match, and not in any danger of losing is getting his faced smashed in, huh?

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Kyle Bowen | Posted 10/10/2006 9:38:44 PM | message detail
I love seeing the characters around Squall do poorly, it makes him look better. I know I am so bias...


^_~


Squall and Vincent FTSNNNC!!!!!!!



KB
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/10/2006 9:39:14 PM | message detail
Figure of speech, damn you !!
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/10/2006 9:39:26 PM | message detail
This match proves that Claire is still strong and Kairi is even stronger. I'll be shocked if she doesn't put up at least 45% on Rikku.
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transience | Posted 10/10/2006 9:39:44 PM | message detail
hmm, either RE4 for PS2 was significant or Luigi just overperformed on Zero for whatever reason. that seems to be what's going through my head.

this actually doesn't make me feel one way or another about Luigi-Kirby.
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NewLib | Posted 10/10/2006 9:39:48 PM | message detail
This makes me happy.

This was the Leon I expected to show up last year.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2006 9:40:01 PM | message detail
This doesn't make Squall look better, not by a longshot. If Bowser was significantly overrated, so was Tidus (and he's behind a second wave of potential Kirby overrating). Add in some SFF and that match makes a lot more sense.
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Dekar TKB | Posted 10/10/2006 9:40:21 PM | message detail
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 10/10/2006 10:39:26 PM | Message Detail
This match proves that Claire is still strong and Kairi is even stronger. I'll be shocked if she doesn't put up at least 45% on Rikku.


...I'm going to go ahead and say no, it doesn't prove anything of the sort.
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MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/10/2006 9:40:24 PM | message detail
As long as Luigi beats Kirby and gives Sonic a good scare, I don't give a **** what happens.

Hell, Snake can win the main bracket for all I care. And with the way this contest is going, I actually wouldn't be surprised.
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Yesmar | Posted 10/10/2006 9:40:29 PM | message detail
Resident Evil 4 sold 810,000 on the GCN and 610,000 on the PS2, both for America. That's a significant increase to the fanbase no matter how you slice it, even if it didn't outsell the GCN version.

Oh, I definitely think that the PS2 port helped Leon; I was just correcting the sales error.
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Sir Auron | Posted 10/10/2006 9:40:50 PM | message detail
57.20% that update! Woo!

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transience | Posted 10/10/2006 9:41:01 PM | message detail
heh, Bowser gets 57% that update and I think of it as good. weird how expectations change.

grrr why'd I change my 60% oracle
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Undeniable | Posted 10/10/2006 9:42:42 PM | message detail
Woo, go Leon! I mean, sure, you have no chance of winning.. but this shows RE still means buisness.
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Sir Auron | Posted 10/10/2006 9:43:22 PM | message detail
If Bowser was significantly overrated, so was Tidus (and he's behind a second wave of potential Kirby overrating). Add in some SFF and that match makes a lot more sense.

I prefer not to even bother thinking about Bowser being overrated at this point. There is still the day vote to see and Bowser's latest update didn't see him getting rocked in percentage either. If this ends around 60%, it wouldn't out do expectations too much -- and we could attribute to RE4 on the PS2; the NSMB boost still lives through that, too, of course!

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Sir Auron | Posted 10/10/2006 9:44:31 PM | message detail
This match proves that Claire is still strong and Kairi is even stronger. I'll be shocked if she doesn't put up at least 45% on Rikku.

And this doesn't say much of anything about any other Resident Evil character, except for maybe Ada Wong. Leon being in Resident Evil 4 completely puts him a whole step above any other Resident Evil character.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2006 9:44:42 PM | message detail
I'm not convinced on anything right now, that was more a response to KB thinking that this would make Squall look better.
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Kyle Bowen | Posted 10/10/2006 9:45:22 PM | message detail
This doesn't make Squall look better, not by a longshot. If Bowser was significantly overrated, so was Tidus (and he's behind a second wave of potential Kirby overrating). Add in some SFF and that match makes a lot more sense.

Squall > Bowser...

It puts Squall above any of the other near elites except Vincent.

You are thinking the wrong way. Sure this might remove Squall chances of beating Snake (you never know... maybe this is showing that Snake is overrated too ^_^) but it makes Squall look better than Bowser. So far this contest Squall has looked better than Gannon and Bowser... two characters not many people Squall would have a chance at before these matches...


KB
Sir Auron | Posted 10/10/2006 9:46:04 PM | message detail
(you never know... maybe this is showing that Snake is overrated too ^_^)

...What?

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2006 9:47:38 PM | message detail
Squall's always had a shot at Ganondorf and Bowser (and Snake), and I remember the idea of Snake potentially being overrated in the Mario match because MGS4 news had come out that day (though that's *really* stretching it for me). But while that gives Squall an easier time with his competition, it doesn't say much about his own strength. Typically you want to rely on your own strength to win a match, not your opponent's weakness -- which is why most would still say Mega Man is the heavy favorite to beat Snake (or Squall) despite his lackluster performance on Axel.
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Kyle Bowen | Posted 10/10/2006 9:48:08 PM | message detail
...What?

Maybe... Snake overpreforms on everyone but Bowser...


His real strength is that which showed in the match with the KING KOOPA!!!!


>.>


KB
Haste_2 | Posted 10/10/2006 9:48:10 PM | message detail
Hey, not only does this mean Snake is overrated, but also Mario! Not only that, but it means Crono, Mega Man, and Leon Kennedy are all overrated!

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2006 9:48:59 PM | message detail
LINK IS OVERRATED HE WOULD ONLY GET 53% ON HIMSELF
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/10/2006 9:49:15 PM | message detail
Maybe... Snake overpreforms on everyone but Bowser...


His real strength is that which showed in the match with the KING KOOPA!!!!


So he'll overperform on Squall too ;>_>
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Kyle Bowen | Posted 10/10/2006 9:49:50 PM | message detail
Squall's always had a shot at Ganondorf and Bowser (and Snake)

You are a man among boys!!!!


^_^


KB
Dekar TKB | Posted 10/10/2006 9:50:04 PM | message detail
As long as we're making nonsensical statements about the value of another character based off the first hour of a poll, I'm going to go ahead and say that this proves that Gordon Freeman is massively underrated! Phoenix Wright could have beaten the 2k5 listed value!
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Sir Auron | Posted 10/10/2006 9:50:10 PM | message detail
This is totally telling me that Bowser beats Crono with 50.05% -- THE NEW RIVALRY!!

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Sir Auron | Posted 10/10/2006 9:50:53 PM | message detail
Nearly a 58% update for Bowser! That's what we need to see!

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FourthDeus | Posted 10/10/2006 9:51:29 PM | message detail
Hahaha, the Bowser Defense Force is hilarious.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2006 9:51:31 PM | message detail
What happened to the doubling???
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/10/2006 9:52:42 PM | message detail
Hahaha, the Bowser Defense Force is hilarious.

You know what was funnier? Master Hand beating down Kuja. Good times!


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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2006 9:53:52 PM | message detail
Master Hand > Kuja was the most obvious upset ever, and I knew MH would be fodder.

I need to rub this in some more. <_<
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Incompetence | Posted 10/10/2006 9:54:30 PM | message detail
The Nintendo Boost™ is so screwed.
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FourthDeus | Posted 10/10/2006 9:54:38 PM | message detail
I'm not angry about Master Hand>Kuja. Haven't been since the day it happened. I really keep the signature as a reminder that most people are basic, ignorant, and shouldn't be allowed to procreate.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/10/2006 9:57:55 PM | message detail
What, as opposed to the select few people that claim they have played a game that doesn't exist...those people should?
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/10/2006 9:58:58 PM | message detail
Seeing Yoshi and Bowser disappoint makes Zero look really pathetic.

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