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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 384

Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2006 4:07:08 PM | message detail
I'd love to see Bowser > Crono, but I ain't touching that bandwagon with a seven-foot pole.
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/10/2006 4:09:17 PM | message detail
Assuming Crono 2k5 is equal to Crono 2k6 (good assumption to me!), then Falcon is at about 20.20% on BL, which puts him slightly below unadjusted Kratos!

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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/10/2006 4:10:32 PM | message detail
Sorry, I like Crono too much. Now Luigi > Sonic, there's a bandwagon I can get behind! (Luigi > Sonic > Mario, *****es!)

Luigi > Sonic would be awesome, I must say.


...But that inequality makes is painful!!

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trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2006 4:12:50 PM | message detail
I was thinking about it last night. I think Crono 2k5 = Crono 2k6 is a good assumption. it almost made me realize that doing stats off base Crono would be a hell of a lot easier!
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Sir Crono | Posted 10/10/2006 4:13:14 PM | message detail
Squall > Snake, Squall > Mega Man, and Squall > Sonic is where it's at, folks!
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Sir Crono | Posted 10/10/2006 4:13:55 PM | message detail
Well, Crono will probably be the best base we have for the main bracket since we won't get to see anyone in this bracket face Link or Cloud one-on-one.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/10/2006 4:14:39 PM | message detail
Squall over your mom. In a bed.

Jealous, are we?
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Sir Crono | Posted 10/10/2006 4:15:21 PM | message detail
Hey, if I had a half-brother or sister by Squall, that would be awesome.
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/10/2006 4:16:13 PM | message detail
Hey, if I had a half-brother or sister by Squall, that would be awesome.

Haha. Good show!

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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/10/2006 4:16:16 PM | message detail
Theres just something wierd about Bowser > Crono, but out of all the characters I'd like to see break the Noble Nine, Bowser is definitely up there.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2006 4:17:45 PM | message detail
The 'weird' thing about Bowser > Crono is that it would be too good to possibly happen.

This is also the primary reason why Snake is going to lose to Mega Man again. =(
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/10/2006 4:17:50 PM | message detail
Oh, and it turns out my next door neighbor Cameron as the user "sexyman(insert random numbers)" here was #46 the other day :O then Ganon lost to Vincent. Other than that his first round is flawless though. And this is his like 4th contest. Pretty good I'd say.
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/10/2006 4:20:04 PM | message detail
Although Crono doesn't seem to have lost much strength, might his day vote be getting worse as he (and his fans) age?

I've thought about that before. You'd expect the mainstream gamers to be in the day, and that their support for aging games like CT would get less and less each other. I think Tidus has actually changed voting patterns...IIRC, Tidus won the MORNING vote against Ganondorf back in '03...and that's where you'd expect Ganondorf to do the best. That, along with Tidus flat out dropping, seems to suggest Tidus has lost a lot of mainstream support (FFX was a big hit among the mainstream).

I have no idea about Crono...I wouldn't expect any major night vote changes unless his popularity changed a decent amount. That's just my common sense there.

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2006 4:24:00 PM | message detail
Repeat after me: Bowser's day vote isn't that good.

Repeat after me: That was the old, 2005 Bowser, this is the new and improved 2006 Bowser!

Also, I wouldn't expect him to win it over Kirby, but if he can shave votes of Snake, he'll be able to win updates off Crono.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/10/2006 4:24:03 PM | message detail
50 years from now, if Gamefaqs is still around, Crono will still be at this value, even if he never gets another appearance. I laff at the people keep predicting a Crono drop cause Crono slaps them in the face every time.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2006 4:25:22 PM | message detail
As far I'm concerned, Crono did lose a teensy bit of a step last year, though it's impossible to know. He looks stronger than ever right now, though.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2006 4:25:46 PM | message detail
all FFX characters in 2005 won the overnight / early morning vote though. I used to think that Europe just loved FFX.
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"12 percent of those who liked opera had experimented with magic mushrooms." - Reuters
RevolverAk47 | Posted 10/10/2006 4:25:51 PM | message detail
Lol, doesn't matter if Crono stays the same when people around him are going up.
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/10/2006 4:27:01 PM | message detail
Repeat after me: That was the old, 2005 Bowser, this is the new and improved 2006 Bowser!

Bingo! What shall we call him...Giga Bowser this year, baby! Noble Nine breaker extraordinaire!

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wavedash101 | Posted 10/10/2006 4:28:08 PM | message detail
Question: How much does Crono boost from a new Chrono game, if he isnt in it? If he is? And does he take down Mario again in either case?
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/10/2006 4:28:09 PM | message detail
He looks stronger than ever right now, though.

He looks about like Crono from years past, actually. This performance isn't particularly impressive. Meeting expectations here more than anything.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2006 4:28:42 PM | message detail
I'm glad HM isn't on a good bandwagon, or else I'd be really upset!

Though he should get on the Squall > Snake bandwagon for safety's sake.
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Sir Crono | Posted 10/10/2006 4:29:37 PM | message detail
Also, I wouldn't expect him to win it over Kirby, but if he can shave votes of Snake, he'll be able to win updates off Crono.

Knowing how bad Snake is with the day vote, you'd think Bowser would have been able to do better than he did. Remember that Bowser had over 60% on Ryu and was nearly doubling Chun-Li when the day vote hit.

...Yeah.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2006 4:30:05 PM | message detail
Sephiroth boosted what, like 8% with an optional boss fight in Kingdom Hearts? Chrono Break would be unreal for Crono. he'd be untouchable by anybody below Mario, and probably Mario as well. this is assuming he's in it of course.
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"12 percent of those who liked opera had experimented with magic mushrooms." - Reuters
Sir Crono | Posted 10/10/2006 4:30:26 PM | message detail
Though he should get on the Squall > Snake bandwagon for safety's sake.

There's no more room!

Speaking of Crono's and Snake's day votes, I wonder who won it back in 2002?
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/10/2006 4:30:38 PM | message detail
Question: How much does Crono boost from a new Chrono game, if he isnt in it? If he is? And does he take down Mario again in either case?

I think Crono would benefit far more if he were placed in a game that he usually wouldn't be in. Like Kingdom Hearts or Super Smash Bros. or something. Just making another Chrono game probably wouldn't produce that crazy boost he would need to take down Mario -- Super Mario Galaxy coming out in early 2007 here, folks! Another Chrono game would boost him if he were in it, but I'm unsure about if he wasn't. It'd be better just to have a Chrono Trigger remake on the DS or something.

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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/10/2006 4:31:50 PM | message detail
There's no more room!

That's because it's a teeny, tiny bandwagon that only holds one crazy guy!

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/10/2006 4:32:27 PM | message detail
Bowser may be able to take afew updates, but nothing like he did with Solid Snake -- Crono's stronger, plus the poll-time's change and Crono being stronger than Solid in Bowser's better hours should keep most updates in firm control for Crono.

That said, GO BOWSER GO !!
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trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2006 4:32:41 PM | message detail
I've actually been curious on Scorpion's day vote. does anybody have any data from back then?
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/10/2006 4:33:20 PM | message detail
A few? He'll take over 50% of the updates!

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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/10/2006 4:34:48 PM | message detail
Looking at Scorpion's match with Auron in 2004, he was able to save off about a percent from morning until the end of the match.

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Sir Crono | Posted 10/10/2006 4:35:32 PM | message detail
All we have on Scorpion is his match with Auron.

With the board vote, Auron had around 63.25%
One hour in, Auron had 65.65%
Five hours in (around the start of the morning vote back then), Auron had 66.22%
Nine hours in (Noon EST), Auron had 65.93%
Twelve hours in, Auron had 65.44%
Fifteen hours in, Auron had 65.11%
Twenty hours in, Auron had 64.91%
Auron finished with 64.85%
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/10/2006 4:35:39 PM | message detail
Though I'm not a big fan of Crono, I would really like to see him in SSBB. Speaking of which, has there been any new word on it lately?



Also, I saw this earlier and am finally going to try my hand at it. From most to least likely:

Squall > Solid
Bowser > Crono
Vincent > Sonic
Sora > Mega Man
Zelda(/Aeris) > Samus
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/10/2006 4:36:24 PM | message detail
Well people have been waiting for Chrono Break forever. And remember, out of all the character in the Nine, Crono is the one casuals dont usually recognize. Chrono Trigger didnt sell too hot here in the US and he the biggest case were the effects of emulation are obvious. If he gets a new game, I definitely think it sells better and give Crono the mainstream boost that I think he probably lacks. This is assuming a large role in the game of course. And dont be down talking game boosts, HM. Who was the biggest supporter of NSMB boosting Luigi? >_>
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Sir Crono | Posted 10/10/2006 4:37:36 PM | message detail
In my personal opinion, Vincent > Sonic is more likely than Bowser > Crono. Vincent's already closer to Sonic than Bowser is to Crono (though not by a great deal), and Vincent has had a game of his own since then.

Plus, he's from FFVII.
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therealmnm | Posted 10/10/2006 4:38:18 PM | message detail
Whoo hooo! I'm on the West Coast in San Diego for this week! Yoblazer, I have to say your time zone sucks. It's 4:30 and I was looking for my daily dose of ESPN shows. But noooooo, they are already off! :(
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/10/2006 4:38:49 PM | message detail
Crono would definitely boost, make no mistake, but I really doubt we see something massive from a new Chrono game. Crono would most benefit from being in a game that is being bought by an entirely different fanbase that has little knowledge of him -- Kingdom Hearts or Smash Bros. -- over another Chrono game. Judging by Chrono Cross's sales, which were about 600,000 in America, I just doubt how much a new Chrono game will benefit Crono. He may get some separation between Mega Man, Sonic, and Solid Snake, but he isn't going to beating Mario or Samus or anything, I don't think.

And if he's not it? Practically nothing.

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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/10/2006 4:39:53 PM | message detail
Whoo hooo! I'm on the West Coast in San Diego for this week! Yoblazer, I have to say your time zone sucks. It's 4:30 and I was looking for my daily dose of ESPN shows. But noooooo, they are already off!

Pfft. West Coast > All Other Coasts.

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therealmnm | Posted 10/10/2006 4:40:30 PM | message detail
Oh, and as for today's match, Falcon is disappointing me. After seeing Axel get 30% on Mega Man, I thought Captain Falcon would have a similar performance on Crono. After letting Luigi beat Zero, I wish NintenFAQs would make up their freakin' mind!
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/10/2006 4:40:33 PM | message detail
EAST COAST

CLAP CLAP

EAST COAST

CLAP CLAP
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Sir Crono | Posted 10/10/2006 4:41:06 PM | message detail
LOL SSBM
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/10/2006 4:41:44 PM | message detail
I think a nice "LOL EAST COAST" is somehow appropriate right now!

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trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2006 4:41:54 PM | message detail
you could easily make the case that 2d Square and 3d Square are different fanbases. CT characters resist SFF from FF7 characters and Crono probably didn't SFF Zidane all too much. Crono/Vincent went according to script and we'll see Crono/Auron probably do the same. if that's the case, a new game for Crono would have the same effect.

not to mention it would be his first game in, oh, 12 years? (not counting Cross)
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/10/2006 4:43:17 PM | message detail
From Karma Hunter Posted 10/10/2006 7:25:22 PM
As far I'm concerned, Crono did lose a teensy bit of a step last year, though it's impossible to know. He looks stronger than ever right now, though.

I think that was more people boosting around him than him dropping. Like I've said before, Crono seems to be the most consistant character in these things. Which is weird considering Magus and Frog have both been all over the map.

TuRtLe
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/10/2006 4:45:16 PM | message detail
HM he definitely beats Samus if he gets a game starring him or even having him playable. Samus doesnt have enough extra strength over him to survive that. And as I said, A new Chrono does expose Crono to the mainstream. RPGs only really became mainstream with FF7. A new generation of gamers would be exposed to Crono. This isnt the next Zelda (as good as TP maybe) or Mario, this would Crono's first new game since '95! Only an FF7 remake or a Nintendo vs Square crossover game would cause crazier boosting.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/10/2006 4:45:46 PM | message detail
Crono probably didn't SFF Zidane all too much.

Which makes that particular blowout all the sweeter =)

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/10/2006 4:47:09 PM | message detail
Bold prediction: Sonic and Mega Man both get SSB:B appearances and Crono gets a DS remake, resulting in the NN hierarchy not changing one little bit <_<

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therealmnm | Posted 10/10/2006 4:48:07 PM | message detail
Chrono's game would actually have to be GOOD before I say he gets a huge boost. I could very well see Square dropping the ball on a new Chrono game as far as everyone's expectations for the game go. Chrono would boost in that situation, but it wouldn't be that much...
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Kaxon | Posted 10/10/2006 4:53:13 PM | message detail
Make no mistake, Chrono Break starring Crono would boost him back over Mario, where he belongs. Crono's second game would help him more than Mario's 123456th game is going to help him, even if it is a big one.

Come on Square, give us Chrono Break! Starring Crono! In an alternate timeline that pretends Chrono Cross never happened!
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/10/2006 4:53:41 PM | message detail
HM he definitely beats Samus if he gets a game starring him or even having him playable. Samus doesnt have enough extra strength over him to survive that.

You know, the difference between Mario and Samus in 2005 is practically nothing. Samus in the future has Metroid Prime 3 coming, too, which definitely boosts her a bit. It's not like the two are equal right now.

And as I said, A new Chrono does expose Crono to the mainstream. RPGs only really became mainstream with FF7. A new generation of gamers would be exposed to Crono. This isnt the next Zelda (as good as TP maybe) or Mario, this would Crono's first new game since '95! Only an FF7 remake or a Nintendo vs Square crossover game would cause crazier boosting.

Again, I doubt how much a new Chrono game would do for Crono as opposed to a CT remake or Crono appearing in some other game. A new Chrono game is not comparable to a new Final Fantasy. Chrono has disappeared for a generation and Square right now is a shell of what they used to be. I really doubt it would produce the sales -- or even feature Crono -- to give him this massive boost you're talking about.

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