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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 383

Master Moltar | Posted 10/9/2006 7:17:30 PM | message detail
Or Zero didn't drop and Luigi increased about 3%.

Too bad EC had it right the first time!
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Luigi vs. Zero - Bracket: Zero - Vote: Zero (25/27)
Heroic_Servbot | Posted 10/9/2006 7:17:31 PM | message detail
Umm Fawful for 2k7 champion? I think so!
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Ozzie's in a pickle!
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/9/2006 7:18:13 PM | message detail
EC had it wrong -- like always!

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/9/2006 7:19:22 PM | message detail
Or Zero didn't drop and Luigi increased about 3%. OH HEY WHO SAID THAT? OH RIGHT ME!!

Thanks for confirming my correctness!

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Cheer Up Emo Kids
Aprosenf | Posted 10/9/2006 7:27:23 PM | message detail
Nobody's mentioned it, but Zero's actually been winning quite a few updates lately. The lead has been going up and down in the 9700s for almost the last two hours.

zomg comeback?
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/9/2006 7:28:43 PM | message detail
Too late unfortunately V_V
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WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/9/2006 7:30:07 PM | message detail
If he gains 100 more votes than luigi per minute until midnight he can win!! Go Zero, show us what your fighting for!!!
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/9/2006 7:30:56 PM | message detail
I meant per update...>_>;
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/9/2006 7:31:40 PM | message detail
Or did I mean per minute....O_o?
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xp1337 | Posted 10/9/2006 7:31:50 PM | message detail
I think you were right the first time, rather, I think that's still too slow. >_>
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SC2k6 (025/027) Luigi v Zero
wavedash101 | Posted 10/9/2006 7:32:28 PM | message detail
K good I was right the first time...>_>
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/9/2006 7:32:36 PM | message detail
I just hope Zero goes on a bloody rampage and continues to knock of %. Kirby > Luigi must live on, even if my bracket is shot!

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Portugal. The Man
Cheer Up Emo Kids
wavedash101 | Posted 10/9/2006 7:33:28 PM | message detail
So PoP looks better in the stats?
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Janus5000 | Posted 10/9/2006 7:33:54 PM | message detail
Zero would have to get every vote in the next 18 updates to still lose.
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"Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything."
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 10/9/2006 7:36:45 PM | message detail
Whoa, I just realized how high the vote totals are.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/9/2006 7:37:54 PM | message detail
Well, duh. It's La-err, Columbus Day!
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/9/2006 7:38:31 PM | message detail
Luigi's a beast at bringing in the vote totals!

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BDawg | Posted 10/9/2006 7:41:05 PM | message detail
Oh you must not have heard of Luigi's vote or die campaign.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/9/2006 7:41:55 PM | message detail
Tell us about it!!!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/9/2006 7:42:46 PM | message detail
I never understand why he does that. I don't look at a match and say to myself OMG LUIGI MUST VOTE. In fact...I think I've voted for Luigi against KOS-MOS, and that's about it. And the only reason I did it was because I hadn't played Xenosaga.

Hey, I don't dislike Luigi...it's just that Mario is just that much better! ^_^
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/9/2006 7:44:35 PM | message detail
Hey, I don't dislike Luigi...it's just that Mario is just that much better!

You're so right -- shocking! <3


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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/9/2006 7:45:40 PM | message detail

Hey, I don't dislike Luigi...it's just that Mario is just that much better! ^_^


If you're into democratic girlie men maybe.

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Gaddswell | Posted 10/9/2006 7:46:06 PM | message detail
I must say, round 2 match pics look NICE! If Kerrigan managed to beat Terra, she would've gone out with style against Zelda.

For the record, I want these characters to be in the contest next year to see how well they do now:

Pikachu
Wario
Fox McCloud

Pokemon hate seems to have died down so Pikachu should be able to do a little better for himself. Fox has had a few more games now and shouldn't be as SSB dependent as he was back, and Wario had more exposure since (and he did rank above Yuna & Sora in 2k3).
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/9/2006 7:46:09 PM | message detail
Mario > > > EC

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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/9/2006 7:46:20 PM | message detail
Luigi > Mario > everyone else
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/9/2006 7:46:54 PM | message detail
Mario > Bowser > Luigi > the rest.

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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/9/2006 7:47:27 PM | message detail
Bowser > Mario > other Mario characters
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WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/9/2006 7:47:37 PM | message detail
Yoshi > Luigi > Bowser > Mario > Everyone else
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Janus5000 | Posted 10/9/2006 7:47:38 PM | message detail
Wario > all those other lamers.
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"Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything."
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/9/2006 7:48:13 PM | message detail
Peach >> everyone of you doubters
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/9/2006 7:48:27 PM | message detail
Your right Hiko cept...

Bowser>Fawful>Watt>>>Mario>>>>Everyone else
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/9/2006 7:48:46 PM | message detail
Fox has needed to come back for a while -- he'd trash no-hopers like Peach, Falcon, Mewtwo, and Ness without even breaking a sweat.

He's more comparable to DK than any of them, truthfully. Fox's popularity within SSBM is just crazy.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/9/2006 7:49:15 PM | message detail
Hey, I meant all characters, not just Mario characters!

Kinda weird that my favorite two characters are Luigi and Mario and the next four are RPG villains.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/9/2006 7:49:18 PM | message detail
he'd trash no-hopers like Peach

LAFF
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/9/2006 7:50:50 PM | message detail
Fox>Mewtwo>Falcon>Peach=Ness

Yup ^_^
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/9/2006 7:51:55 PM | message detail
Yoshi > Everyone else

All that needs to be said, folks.
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Luigi vs. Zero - Bracket: Zero - Vote: Zero (25/27)
heroic tranny | Posted 10/9/2006 7:52:27 PM | message detail
um um um i like toad

yeah that's about all the good things i have to say about mario characters
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therealmnm | Posted 10/9/2006 8:12:06 PM | message detail
Bowser > Luigi > The Koopalings > Peach > the rest > Bowser Jr.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2006 8:15:05 PM | message detail
Mario > Yoshi > PARA-TROOPA > Luigi > Wario >= Bowser > Toad > Peach

Waluigi has no place here.
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Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest.
It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
Master Moltar | Posted 10/9/2006 8:20:52 PM | message detail
Time Division: Round 1 - Match 29 – (1)Crono vs. (8)Captain Falcon

Moltar’s Analysis

Crono
Game/Series Known From: Chrono Trigger
Extrapolated Rank in 2002: 7th (37.43%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: 6th (38.14%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: 6th (37.18%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2005: 5th (36.54%)
Seed in 2002: 5
Seed in 2003: 4
Seed in 2004: 3
Seed in 2005: 2
Lost in 2002 to Mario in the Final 4
Lost in 2003 to Mario in the Elite 8
Lost in 2004 to Link in the Elite 8
Lost in 2005 to Mario in the Finals

That Goku-look alike finally gets his 1-seed!

Falcon
Game/Series Known From: F-Zero

Capt. Falcon makes his first Contest.

Another rally character makes it, but in a wasted spot. Crono shouldn’t have any trouble showing Falcon his moves here. Falcon may do decently, but F-Zero isn’t too big on GameFAQs. SSB is though, and like Ness, that’s where most of Falcon’s strength will probably come from. Speaking of Ness, what would he get on Crono?

Ness (2005c) VS Crono (2005c)

Ness has a strength of 20.53.
Crono has a strength of 39.87.

Crono wins with 74.25% of the vote!
A win of 45,025 with 92,820 total votes cast.


Now add in Falcon being a bit stronger (because I can’t see Falcon losing to Ness, underrated or not) and…

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Crono will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Crono: 73% - Falcon: 27%



Ulti’s Analysis

Crono is a lock here, but chalk down one more character from SSBM that's finally made a contest! Updated list of who's missing:

Falco

Marth

Ice Climbers

Jigglypuff

Roy

G&W

(I don't count Sheik, Doc Mario, Young Link or Pichu for obvious reasons)

Prediction: Crono with 75%



HM’s Analysis

We are here today, ladies and gentlemen, with two fierce guys! In one corner, we have the silent Crono with his slick bandana and fire red hair! In the other, we have the Champion to end all Champions; the man who makes winning bold, CAPTAIN FALCON!

…This match doesn’t need an analysis; it needs an interview. Behold.

Q: Got a message for your rivals?

A: I'm coming!

Q: What do you plan to do with the prize money?

A: Begin construction on the Neo Blue Falcon.

Q: Will you show us your face?

A: Beat me in a race, and I'll show you.

Q: Can I have your autograph?

A: Of course! *signs autograph*

Q: Got a message for your viewers?

A: I'll race anyone, anytime.

Q: Why did you become an F-Zero racer?

A: I was born to be an F-Zero racer!

Q: Nice F-Zero machine!

A: The Blue Falcon is the fastest machine on the circuit!

Q: Is it true that you are thinking about retiring?

A: Of course not. There are still rivals to be defeated. The battle is just beginning.

Q: What was the key to your victory?

A: Winning isn't about being lucky, it's about being bold.

Q: Think I could become a racer?

A: You're quite sharp, aren't you? You'd make a good racer.

Q: What's a pilot's essence?

A: The heart! (Falcon hits his chest)

Q: Listen to that crowd! Your fans love you!

A: *pumps fist in air* Yeeaaah!

Q: What do you do when you're not racing?

A: Chase prize money - I'm a bounty hunter!

Q: Congratulations on your stunning victory!

A: Thank you! *strikes pose* I couldn't have done it without my fans!

Q: Congratulations on your expert win!

A: Now you see the genius of the Falcon!
Master Moltar | Posted 10/9/2006 8:21:12 PM | message detail
If there were any justice in this world, Captain Falcon would beat the crap out of Crono and shock the world by breaking the Noble Nine himself. We’re talking about a true champion right here. If you aren’t voting for Falcon come match time, you are scum!

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: Crono

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: Crono – 74% ; Captain Falcon – 26%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: CAPTAIN FALCON



Yoblazer’s Analysis

After four years of waiting, Crono finally has his much deserved 1-seed. He begins his quest for a contest title against the almost sure-to-be strongest 8-seed in the bracket, Captain Falcon. Now, Crono won't have any trouble here, but he certainly won't cruise to as easy a victory as the other top seeded characters have seen; Falcon is just too much. After all that we've recently, there's no way in hell I'm ever going to doubt Super Smash Bros.' strength and influence unless it gives me a damn good reason to, and Captain Falcon is a very popular star in both of the series's games. For a 1/8 match, this shouldn't be too big a blowout.

My prediction: Crono def. Captain Falcon (69-31)



Lopen’s Analysis

Just imagine, for a second, that Captain Falcon was the star of Chrono Trigger instead.

*At the Millennial Fair, CF sees Marle*
Captain Falcon: Show me your moves!
*Marle, being the fool she is, takes this as an invitation to charge into Captain Falcon. She is knocked unconscious immediately upon collision with his beefy physique*
*Captain Falcon grabs a pendant off the ground*
Captain Falcon: Yes! *thumbs up*

Captain Falcon casually leaves, and Marle is never seen again! Yeeaaahh!

"She got her ass kicked by Aeris, leave her alone already!" Okay… okay… I know you're tired of the Marle hating… I've brought her up in three write-ups already… but… but… it's fun, damn it! Okay, how about this? Captain Falcon could be used to repair plot-holes! Surely you've wondered why Gato randomly went into song and dance at the Millennial Fair, right? With Captain Falcon, it'd no longer be a mystery!

*Captain Falcon approaches Gato*
Captain Falcon: Show me your moves!
Gato: They call me Gato, I have metal joints, Beat me up, And earn 15 Silver Points (waah, I can't put music notes here)Captain Falcon: Yes! *thumbs up*

See? Mystery solved! Gato was just following orders to show him his moves!

What? Whaddaya mean Captain Falcon says more than "Show me your moves" and "Yes!"? Give me a break! I've played every game in his series, that is, both of the Smash Brothers games. That's all he says when he isn't attacking! Really! He has yet to master the English language, with only a few words in his vocabulary. I know this to be true. If Smash had a story mode it'd totally go into depth on this!

Okay… okay, there was a point to that whole bunch of nonsense, aside from amusing me. And that was… the casual fan only knows of Captain Falcon as that guy in Smash Brothers. Here we'll really see what happens when all you have is the support of being playable in Smash. (Ness has Earthbound! Small, but there!) How much is it? Better than Master Hand, but still not much, I'm guessing. Kinda interesting for a 1v8 match, though.

Lopen's Prediction: Crono with 78.49%



KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

CRONO

"Humans are such fragile, disjointed, imperfect things."
Summer 2002 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 7th Place [37.43%]

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 6th Place [38.14%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 5th Place [37.18%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 6th Place [36.54%]
charmander6000 | Posted 10/9/2006 8:21:51 PM | message detail
This is less than 100 votes at beating Vincent/Ganondorf for highest vote total.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/9/2006 8:22:25 PM | message detail
While historically the member of the NN whose strength has perplexed me for years, Crono has earned my respect as an absolute force in these things. The odds-on favorite to take the male half and with not-too-shabby odds at taking the male bracket, Crono is looking for another deep run in this battle. WOO CRONO

CAPTAIN FALCON

"You think YOU can beat me?! NO WAY!!!"
N/A

Captain Falcon is one of those characters that you sorta wonder why they haven't got into the contest yet when freaking Ness has made the cut. Nevertheless, with a healthy board rally the toughest Nintendo bounty hunter around (take THAT Samus) is here...as a no-hoper 8 seed. Oh, well. Looking to do good so that he'll get some nom-support for next year, etc, blah blah blah...

Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

Crono: N/A
Captain Falcon: Super Smash Brothers (N64), Super Smash Brothers Melee (GC)

Upcoming Releases
Crono: N/A
Captain Falcon: Super Smash Brothers Brawl (WII)

...yeah, I never got any of that Ness > Falcon junk. Um...Crono wins?

Karma Hunter's Vote: Captain Falcon. FALCONNNNNNNNNNN VOTE!

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Crono with 72.18%.

I expect Falcon to show me some decent moves here!

Upset Potential: 0%

Yup.



Guest’s Analysis - TheRye

A match that is not really in dispute.

“…” –Crono Not only has Crono made appearances in every Summer Contest, but has finished with extrapolated strengths of between 5th and 7th in each of those contests. He is the prohibitive favorite to win the Male division of the contest and is the sexy dark-horse pick to oust Samus in the finals. The silent protagonist of Chrono Trigger has waged war against Mario in all 4 previous summer contests and is looking to make it 5 with a Battle Royale trip this year.

“Show me your moves!” –Captain Falcon Captain Falcon is completely new to the contest, and drew an 8-seed from a heavy board-nomination movement. Known as much for his appearance in the Super Smash Brothers series as he is for his role in the F-Zero series, the Captain hopes to rely on supporters of both to at least keep this match from becoming embarrassing.

I assume that the rest of the Gurus will be taking care of the entire list of extrapolated history of Crono.

Intangibles:
Picture advantage

I think it’s safe to assume that CJay will be using these pictures for the match-pic (if not, probably something very similar).

Crono:

http://www.kikouken.com/comics/ct/crono.gif

Captain Falcon:

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/5/58/250px-Captain_Falcon.jpg

With these photos, there might be a slight shift towards Captain Falcon (based on a more similar look to his game than his opponent). Nothing of real significance. This isn’t going to be a picture of Terra/Kerrigan (original) proportions or anything.

SFF? s

Probably non-existent, as there is really no overlap between fanbases of the racing/fighting and RPG genres.

TheRye’s bracket: Crono over Captain Falcon

TheRye’s prediction: Crono with 74.3%

TheRye’s vote: Captain Falcon (what can I say, I’ve been campaigning for him to get into the contest for the last year, I’m just happy he’s here)



Crew Consensus: Will Falcon shows us his moves, or will Crono go all "..." on his speedy butt? Err, I mean, Crono in the low-to-mid 70's.
BDawg | Posted 10/9/2006 8:30:27 PM | message detail
Ah hehe I would love to see Shiek vs. Zelda just to see how stupid it would be. Oh and if Falcon breaks 30% that would be some damn fine moves.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/9/2006 8:32:27 PM | message detail
This is less than 100 votes at beating Vincent/Ganondorf for highest vote total.


This doesn't make sense. Vincent/Ganondorf was a weekend match, relatively close and between two near-elites, one being from FFVII and one being from Zelda...
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/9/2006 8:32:42 PM | message detail
I can see Young Link, Dr. Mario and even Sheik not being allowed to be in the contest, but I see no reason for Pichu to be banned.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/9/2006 8:33:52 PM | message detail
Pichu should be banned on pure principle.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/9/2006 8:37:12 PM | message detail
This match is a thousand votes behind Mario/Cloud 2k2, which is the 11th highest votal of all time, and 4th highest for strictly character contests.
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/9/2006 8:37:41 PM | message detail
If Captain Falcon does well, we really should get Marth into this. Marth should be the test of what SSBM can really do for a character since he has nothing else in the US essentially.

Also, how strong do you guys think Akuma and Mewtwo would be?
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Current Prediction - Crono vs. Captain Falcon
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/9/2006 8:38:51 PM | message detail
WTF Luigi

I'm almost wanting him to trash my bracket and make it to Sonic just to see how high he can shoot the votes up against elite competition -- he has yet to face any yet, after all.
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