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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 383

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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/9/2006 12:12:46 PM | message detail
Tifa > The Boss = Biggest travesty of justice in contest history? (3 + 8 + 3 = 14. God DAMMIT.)

*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, and thanks to RockMFR for finding the missing ones!
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

Demented Cartoon Movie:
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/demented.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games (down for now, so here's a new link):
http://transience.paragonsigma.com/top100.txt

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AC2K6 Score: 27/27 Today:Zero >_
Luis_Sera89 | Posted 10/9/2006 12:13:24 PM | message detail
First.
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Damn you Z1mZum! Were it not for my owning at the hands of you I would've claimed the guru crown at the 1st attempt!
The_Dealer_7 | Posted 10/9/2006 12:13:50 PM | message detail
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/9/2006 3:43:59 PM | message detail
These topics are always made early...
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falcofan88 | Posted 10/9/2006 3:44:17 PM | message detail
lol Zerowned
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Character Battle V Points: 25/26
Today's Pick: Luigi vs. Zero
Dark115 | Posted 10/9/2006 3:44:44 PM | message detail
Tifa > Zero
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rpgapzx | Posted 10/9/2006 3:44:46 PM | message detail
If I complete a perfect first round, I call dibs on making a topic, please.
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SC2K6 Score: 27/27 /// Today: Luigi /// Leaderboard: Tommorow
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/9/2006 3:57:05 PM | message detail
did you just call NSMB the biggest game of the year? when you haven't mentioned it prior?

One of, rather...and what you mean I haven't mentioned it? I talked about NSMB as early as the Series Contest as a reason for SMB to possibly beat FF among other factors. Why anyone would ignore such a large game like NSMB is just mind boggling to me. It isn't far off from KH2 here and it beats it out everywhere else.

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/9/2006 3:57:26 PM | message detail
The RPGs have have characterized Luigi thus possibly giving players a better connection with him.

I mentioned this before when Ulti attacked Luigi's character.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/9/2006 3:57:27 PM | message detail
I approve of that 500.

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Cheer Up Emo Kids
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/9/2006 3:58:18 PM | message detail
I mentioned this before when Ulti attacked Luigi's character.

And I agreed with you then! M&L:PiT totally made me a Luigi fanboy.

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Cheer Up Emo Kids
Gaddswell | Posted 10/9/2006 3:58:21 PM | message detail
Damn, too slow.

499 > 500
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KingBartz | Posted 10/9/2006 3:59:02 PM | message detail
I liked Luigi's personality in the american tv shows...
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SC2k6: 26/27 Today's upset special: Luigi
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/9/2006 3:59:21 PM | message detail
Luigi was so awesome in the cartoons.

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nintendoveteran | Posted 10/9/2006 3:59:55 PM | message detail
Zero>Luigi
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/9/2006 4:00:48 PM | message detail
Another note on Kirby: it's entirely possible that Kirby was SSB/M-reliant in 2k2. However, I sincerely doubt that Kirby's boosts since then are because of SSBM. Kirby's had four of his five best-selling games come out since 2k2, including his very best-selling two.

I already brought this up, but that doesnt make it less true. I think SSB increased the exposure Kirby had, thus causing more people to buy his games, and now Kirby can ride (mostly) on the popularity of his own titles. SSB boost is icing on the cake.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2006 4:01:52 PM | message detail
Luigi is basically the main character of Superstar Saga. He gets more screentime than Mario, the funniest jokes are related to him, and goes solo twice in the game, while Mario never does.

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/9/2006 4:06:05 PM | message detail
I liked Luigi's personality in the american tv shows...

Mentioned that, too. Luigi >>> Mario in the Super Mario Brothers Super Show!

And the best part of Partners in Time is devoted to Luigi as well!

"The Aurora Block can change its shape to match the size of the heart of the one who hits it."
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Week 2: W, 52-14 vs. Etna
Kratos_42 | Posted 10/9/2006 4:06:15 PM | message detail
500 post < 499 post.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/9/2006 4:06:55 PM | message detail
Luigi >>> Mario in the Super Mario Brothers Super Show!

Now this is just wrong on so many different levels!

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/9/2006 4:08:15 PM | message detail
Continuing from the last topic...

The people who say SSB/M don't contribute to big Nintendo characters' strengths is ridiculous. There's no way you're going to convince me that people like Bowser/Luigi/Mario/Link/Ganon boosted more from stuff like NSMB and ZCE than they did from SSBM. I wouldn't say it's a huge boost, but it's definitely a boost. I could see someone like Mario boosting 2-3% from SSBM.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
KingBartz | Posted 10/9/2006 4:09:49 PM | message detail
I enjoyed Luigi's character beofre Nintendo decided to emasculate him.
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SC2k6: 26/27 Today's upset special: Luigi
THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/9/2006 4:10:47 PM | message detail
Nintendo tried to strike him down, but he became more powerful than they could possibly imagine!
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/9/2006 4:12:07 PM | message detail
^Win
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/9/2006 4:12:26 PM | message detail
Well, technically Luigi was as brave as ever in SSB/M...
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KingBartz | Posted 10/9/2006 4:25:12 PM | message detail
Not when I played him...
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SC2k6: 26/27 Today's upset special: Luigi
longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/9/2006 4:29:27 PM | message detail
Lets discuss another match in this contest before Zero getting beaten by 10,000 votes makes me jump off a cliff >_> how bout that Mega Man vs Snake!
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/9/2006 4:32:17 PM | message detail
Fine, we'll talk about something else. Since Crono vs Captain Falcon is next, let's hear predictions on how high Captain Falcon gets on Crono.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/9/2006 4:32:56 PM | message detail
Crono gets 75%+ tomorrow!
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/9/2006 4:33:05 PM | message detail
I'm gonna go out and say.....23%
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heroic tranny | Posted 10/9/2006 4:34:36 PM | message detail
CF got the best possible opponent of the one seeds. he'll do fine for himself.
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"12 percent of those who liked opera had experimented with magic mushrooms." - Reuters
heroic tranny | Posted 10/9/2006 4:34:49 PM | message detail
well.. not better than Sora, but better than MM or Snake.
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"12 percent of those who liked opera had experimented with magic mushrooms." - Reuters
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2006 4:35:01 PM | message detail
30.01%

CF will to do Crono what Marle did to Aeris!

What did Marle do to Aeris, anyway?

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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 10/9/2006 4:36:16 PM | message detail
CF with 33.32%. Crono barely doubles him.
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Dekar TKB | Posted 10/9/2006 4:36:35 PM | message detail
CAPTAIN FALCON GETS OVER 50% AND BECOMES THE NOBLE NINE BREAKER. YOU KNOW IT TO BE TRUE.

....Well, he'll at least get around 30%. <_<.
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Osfan | Posted 10/9/2006 4:38:02 PM | message detail
Overall I have to say I'm shocked. I just cant believe Luigi has pulled off this much of a thrashing on someone that has the background of Zero. Now that my bracket is trashed, HM is gone, and guru is done for I guess I have one prediction left to make.

I hope Crono can pull this contest win off. Just to see him in the gauntlet from now on cuz he deserves it. But..

Bowser will beat Crono in Round 2. What have we seen from the votes thus far? Nintendo always outdoing what anyone could have hoped. I mean Luigi of all characters is friggin 7 percent higher then his x-stat last year against Zero? LUIGI! I mean this guy doesnt have any good qualities and would be thrashed by Bowser. I mean he got thrashed by Yoshi. YOSHI! Bowser as of last year was projected to get 45-46 on Crono. Crono goes down by the year and we can all agree a Nintendo boost is definetly there. Bowser has all the qualities of a winner this year. He will win the casual vote and the day vote thus will sink Crono's ship.

Osfan's last bit of sanity: Bowser with 50.96 over Crono in round two. :-(

Feel free to laugh, discuss, and taunt but this match will probably be the best of the second round by far.
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Nyah | Posted 10/9/2006 4:38:13 PM | message detail
I'm pretty happy I played it safe taking Kirby to win the four pack. This match was a toss-up for me, I couldn't even decide who would make it to the next round, at least Kirby was a lock. That being said, I've missed all four arguable matches, so if the trend continues I'll miss that one too. : (
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/9/2006 4:39:58 PM | message detail
Considering that match very likely had SFF, I'm not sure how it's only 37% against the strongest character in these contests. The idea that Mario cannot get boosts from his big -- yes, folks, NSMB is a BIG game -- games, then what in the world would it take for Mario to increase? Nothing changes the opinion of these characters for people. Characters don't even need a reason to increase or decrease from year to year, so why it is so farfetched that Mario, Luigi, and Bowser wouldn't benefit from the biggest Mario game since 2002 is beyond me.

(Mario performed about the same against Crono two years in a row, so it's safe to say that Mario was about the same in 2K2-2K4.) Okay, I'm not saying anything about Mario/Bowser/Luigi, etc. having to increase with a new game. If NSMB doesn't do it, Super Mario Galaxy almost certainly will. I just find it fishy that not a single Nntendo/Square character has DECREASED in popularity for certain, except for Tidus, and many have increased. It doesn't seem logical for all of the growth to be attributed to new games... Nintendo and Squaresoft haven't exactly gotten more successful over the past 4 years. The site is just becoming more Nintendo/Square biased as time goes by. But, obviously there are many cases where a Nintendo/Square character did benefit a lot from a new game, but it's rather silly to say that every single instance of an increase is purely because of a new game. Now, I'm not saying that Mario & Friends didn't increase, nor am I saying that NSMB wouldn't cause it.

And as for the argument that a new game brings new visitors to check out the FAQs, and thus it boosts that character...you must realize that most of those particular visitors will be gone by the next year. This has happened with quite a few characters (i.e. Jill Valentine), and we saw those characters decrease in popularity, but has it ever happened with a Nintendo/Square character? Nope, except for Tidus and perhaps those that were snubbed. The site has a portion of visitors that remain tightly-knit to Nintendo and Square, no matter how old their games get, as part of the site's visitors; then there's the OTHER portion of the site's visitors (perhaps in the minority among voters in GameFAQs contests), the more mainstream visitors, that come to check out the latest FAQs on the new mainstream games. That's why we've seen characters like Jill Valentine, Kasumi, etc. fall of the map, but not Nintendo/Square characters.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/9/2006 4:40:19 PM | message detail
CF with 33.32%. Crono barely doubles him.

I remember this prediction for Snake, too. Don't underestimate the power of Noble Nine blowouts...
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/9/2006 4:40:51 PM | message detail
CAPTAIN FALCON GETS OVER 50% AND BECOMES THE NOBLE NINE BREAKER. YOU KNOW IT TO BE TRUE.

I'm going with this.
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heroic tranny | Posted 10/9/2006 4:41:05 PM | message detail
Crono scored 46% or something on Super Mario last year. I really doubt Bowser is going to boost up to Mario levels, though I welcome the idea of it being a debatable match.

this sounds like Ganondorf > Sonic II, though. I'm definitely not feeling the upset chances.
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Sir Crono | Posted 10/9/2006 4:42:08 PM | message detail
Well, people are looking for any Noble Nine upset they can find.

Squall > Snake is the one you're looking for, folks! And with Zero's performance, watch out for Squall > Mega Man!

And then Squall > Sonic!
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Nyah | Posted 10/9/2006 4:43:08 PM | message detail
Square seems to be getting as much support as Nintendo, with the Ganon vs Vince and Riku vs Yoshi match, so right now I'd lean towards Crono winning. I suppose Crono's fanbase is slightly different than the KH fanbase though, so his power may be diminishing. Anything is possible after seeing todays match though.
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 10/9/2006 4:44:00 PM | message detail
I remember this prediction for Snake, too. Don't underestimate the power of Noble Nine blowouts...

Alright I'll admit my Snake/Soma prediction sucked ass. But I have a hard time beliving that CF doesn't dominate Soma far worse than Crono would beat Snake.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/9/2006 4:44:24 PM | message detail
Osfan's last bit of sanity: Bowser with 50.96 over Crono in round two. :-(

I sure hope not. Actually I love Bowser and wouldn't mind him finally being the one to destroy the Noble Nine, but I like Crono a smidge more. And Vincent beat Ganon!
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Kyle Bowen | Posted 10/9/2006 4:44:24 PM | message detail
Tag.


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HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2006 4:45:07 PM | message detail
Meh, saying Smurf "saw it coming" is giving him too much credit. It's like giving HaRRicH credit for Kuja/Master Hand solely on the basis that he thought MH could break the fodder line and beat Falco Lombardi. Sure, he got the match right, but the logic (or lack thereof, in Smurf's case) was totally wrong.

Not to take anything away from HaRRicH getting the match right. It was just the outstanding example in my mind at the time.


Better than Kuja > Kefka or saying Kuja will get 65+%! Also, to be fair, I said Falco would beat MH in a head-to-head match at least..... =P Seriously though, I put nowhere near the blind faith in SSB/M that Smurf does in Sonic -- I just find it better to not bet against it in most close matches (though I still got Vincent/Ganon right, whew).


Yoshi is trash, utter, and complete trash in the SSB/M games. I have every reason to believe Luigi > Yoshi indirectly, yet Yoshi manages to rSFF Luigi, and win the match. That's because the Mario fanbase prefers him to Luigi, and it has nothing to do with SSB/M.

Though I agree, I do also find Yoshi more fun to play as than Luigi. It's just that he sucks.




As for Captain Falcon...give me 27% for him tomorrow.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/9/2006 4:45:31 PM | message detail
And then Squall > Sonic!

And then he's gonna beat Samus! And then he's gonna back to Washington D.C and the Battle Royale TO TAKE BACK DA WHITEHOUSE! YEAAAAGH!
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Sir Crono | Posted 10/9/2006 4:45:40 PM | message detail
Crono's just a tad out of Bowser's league, in my opinion, especially when you consider he might have overperformed on Snake in the first place. He should get at least 45% though.

If he doesn't, Samus had better watch out.
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Big Bob | Posted 10/9/2006 4:46:02 PM | message detail
Alright, assuming a constant Ness and Crono (neither really has any reason to drop or increase), and considering that Ness is probably Falcon's floor we have...

Crono with 74.25%. I'll lower that a bit since I assume Falcon's stronger than Ness, so probably around 72%.

If Falcon gets above 30, Crono is so screwed.
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