GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 382
Master Moltar | Posted 10/9/2006 12:03:19 PM | message detail |
Umm..why is that a bad thing to do? Zero is MM's "side higher-tier
character", which most NNers have (Ganondorf for Link,
Vincent/Tifa/Aeris for Cloud and Sephy, Bowser for Mario, Zero for MM,
Shadow/Knuckles for Sonic) - it stands to reason that a Zero decrease
would have some bearing on MM. The only difference there is that Link and Mario have already SFFed their "side higher-tier character" into the ground, and I'm betting Sonic and Cloud would do the same to theirs as well. Mega Man/Zero was a 56-44 match, which leads me to believe they have different fanbases, and therefore can't be linked like that. --- Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded. Luigi vs. Zero - Bracket: Zero - Vote: Zero (25/27) |
RPGuy96 | Posted 10/9/2006 12:03:52 PM | message detail |
Yeah, but Kirby still acts like a Nintendo character. Which is good enough for the point I was making. And if you put Link in a "who's your favorite Mario character" poll, I bet he wins. <_< --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Top100.pdf |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2006 12:06:05 PM | message detail |
Do you think Mario or Bowser get nothing from SSB/M? Considering SSBM
is the #6/#7 game on GameFAQs and SSB is the fourth/third biggest
series/Nintendo series on GameFAQs, not to mention SSBB very well could
be the most anticipated game right now, that it does nothing for them? I'm not trying to act like it does all sorts of good for them on top of what they already have, but it HAS to do something -- we saw SSB outdo Street Fighter with ease here, yet people seem to talk like people can't support characters they like more in SSB while we still occasionally get into how Ken or Chun-Li or M. Bison or Akuma should be ranked while knowing Ryu is obviously #1 in those ranks. People DO have their favorites in SSB/M, and though they may be known elsewhere from their own series first, I think it's nothing but stupid if people don't think people can vote based on that series instead of their original series. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
XIII_rocks | Posted 10/9/2006 12:06:12 PM | message detail |
...Didn't Zero rSFF MM? Isn't that where the whole theory came from?
>_> I mean, Ganon has very little character (aside from WW), same
with Bowser. Shadow is the bastard child of the Sonic universe, and I
have no idea what would happen in Cloud/Vince. But from what I've heard
about MM, isn't Zero a prize badass? I mean, it definitely accounts for
today if he got rSFF (even though I know that was a few yuears ago now,
it still shows us a lot). --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz AC2K6 Score: 27/27 Today:Zero >_ |
Master Moltar | Posted 10/9/2006 12:08:56 PM | message detail |
...Didn't Zero rSFF MM? No, that match went pretty much as it was supposed to. People just assumed Zero would get SFFed, and therefore were surprised when he didn't. --- Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded. Luigi vs. Zero - Bracket: Zero - Vote: Zero (25/27) |
XIII_rocks | Posted 10/9/2006 12:10:25 PM | message detail |
Hmm. So how much would you say Zero/MM are correlated, if at all? --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz AC2K6 Score: 27/27 Today:Zero >_ |
TehMissingLink | Posted 10/9/2006 12:13:51 PM | message detail |
Do you think Mario or Bowser get nothing from SSB/M? Considering
SSBM is the #6/#7 game on GameFAQs and SSB is the fourth/third biggest
series/Nintendo series on GameFAQs, not to mention SSBB very well could
be the most anticipated game right now, that it does nothing for them? Why in the world would Bowser get something from SSBM? He is horrible in the game. And it's not like he needs any type of exposure, what with being the most iconic villain in gaming. You tend argue SSBM in almost every possible match between Nintendo characters like it has this large focus -- it doesn't. People loved these characters before SSB was even thought to exist. When they go to vote for Mario or Bowser over some other Nintendo character, they likely to do thanks to the Mario games. People love SSBM, sure, but that doesn't mean it's their favorite game/series or even one of the reasons they like these characters. People had favorite characters from Nintendo long before SSB came along. --- "Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!" |
Master Moltar | Posted 10/9/2006 12:16:08 PM | message detail |
Not much. There probably is a small overlap, but nothing where I would
consider them linked (like saying since Zero dropped, MM has also
dropped) And I would say that Mario characters wouldn't boost as much from SSB than non-Mario characters, as Mario characters have tons of exposure outside of SSB, whereas characters like Kirby, Ness, and even Samus, benefit more from it. --- Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded. Luigi vs. Zero - Bracket: Zero - Vote: Zero (25/27) |
Adept of Aiur | Posted 10/9/2006 12:17:04 PM | message detail |
Personally, the only characters I think got help from SSB and SSBM were
those that were relatively obscure beforehand. Like Ness. And all of
Captain Falcon's strength will be from SSB. The only mainstream one I
think really
got help from SSB is Samus, and that's because she actually wasn't
mainstream to anyone that was... well, my age, when SSB came out. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
Haste_2 | Posted 10/9/2006 12:17:08 PM | message detail |
Yeah, but Kirby still acts like a Nintendo character. Which is good enough for the point I was making. Yoshi was badly owned by Mega Man, though, and even Zelda resisted the SFF against Mega Man... =p --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
XIII_rocks | Posted 10/9/2006 12:17:32 PM | message detail |
Not much. There probably is a small overlap, but nothing where I
would consider them linked (like saying since Zero dropped, MM has also
dropped) Ah. I think we can agree to disagree, then. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz AC2K6 Score: 27/27 Today:Zero >_ |
BDawg | Posted 10/9/2006 12:19:50 PM | message detail |
If you look at the series contests it seems Kirby is pretty low on the
Nintendo totem poll. So most of his strength must be coming from Smash
Bros. And yet he is far higher than other SSB leeches like Ness. Gah
nothing makes sense I just want Kirby to be a midcarder so please
Luigi, resist the urge to choke and follow this up with another
resounding victory. --- Should I start running now? |
Master Moltar | Posted 10/9/2006 12:22:35 PM | message detail |
Ah. I think we can agree to disagree, then. I guess. I mean, Kratos (ToS) is at 21% on BL, and he's the fan-favorite from ToS. It isn't crazy to think that Axel, a fan-favorite from a much bigger game (KH2) and another game to boot (CoM), would be at around 24%. --- Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded. Luigi vs. Zero - Bracket: Zero - Vote: Zero (25/27) |
Adept of Aiur | Posted 10/9/2006 12:23:17 PM | message detail |
Well, Kirby seems to draw more strength from his character design than his games. Mostly because his games suck. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
TehMissingLink | Posted 10/9/2006 12:24:18 PM | message detail |
Kirby Super Star was pretty awesome...but I would agree for most of the other Kirby games. --- "Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!" |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2006 12:25:42 PM | message detail |
You tend argue SSBM in almost every possible match between Nintendo
characters like it has this large focus -- it doesn't. People loved
these characters before SSB was even thought to exist. When they go to
vote for Mario or Bowser over some other Nintendo character, they
likely to do thanks to the Mario games. People love SSBM, sure, but
that doesn't mean it's their favorite game/series or even one of the
reasons they like these characters. People had favorite characters from
Nintendo long before SSB came along. 1. It usually doesn't have a big focus, either -- we don't see many Nintendo matches where both are in SSB and one is generally well-preferred over the other, win or lose...so I usually don't have to. I've been vocal about it lately because I think there's reason to be vocal about it lately -- before Kirby/Bowser, why would one wanna worry about it? 2. Don't act like people haven't changed their minds on a character before -- whether you have in real life or not, GameFAQs has certainly shown it happens. 3. That's why they may vote for Mario or Bowser, but not necessarily the same can be said for Kirby...see what I'm saying? It doesn't mean it's a big huge factor, but 1%-4% is plausible depending on the characters. 4. ...SSBM is obviously a favorite of many -- it's practically THE game of this generation as far as this site is concerned, it got #6 in the Top 100 List, it got #7 in the Game Contest, it was only behind LoZ/FF/SMB in the Series Contest, and SSBB wouldn't be NEARLY so anticipated without it. Just because people may have their favorites before the game doesn't mean they can't like them more or less after playing it, or like other characters more or less after it as well. I don't see how this is deniable. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
Master Moltar | Posted 10/9/2006 12:27:09 PM | message detail |
Kirby games aren't that unpopular, at
least compared to other series of SSB characters. SS and CC where
pretty well-recieved, and Crystal Shards was pretty good too! Besides, Kirby is awesome by himself. People love the powers, yo. --- Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded. Luigi vs. Zero - Bracket: Zero - Vote: Zero (25/27) |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2006 12:29:33 PM | message detail |
Oh, and SSBM was leading in points in the BOP for the Top 100 List as well, for the section about who we voted for. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
Kratos_42 | Posted 10/9/2006 12:32:14 PM | message detail |
Am I the only one who thinks Luigi is going to SFF Kirby VERY badly, or the other way around? --- He wields the blade of a fallen hero, but now he is the hero, and it is the others who fall. He is rising. |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/9/2006 12:33:11 PM | message detail |
If Bowser couldn't SFF Kirby, why would Luigi? --- Dancing with myself! Oh-oh! Dancing with myself! Oh-oh! And I'll sweat! Sweat! Sweat! Sweat! Sweat! Sweat! SWEAT! SWEAT! |
wavedash101 | Posted 10/9/2006 12:35:16 PM | message detail |
The last couple of Kirby games on the GBA were million sellers,
something I believe Kirby didnt have prior. And Canvas Curse is
consider THE game that shows that the DS stylus isnt a gimmick. Kirby
has gotten tons more exposure recently then he has ever had. I mean,
freakin Kirby's Air Ride was a million seller. It isnt just SSB though
SSB maybe the reason Kirby sells so well now. SSB gave him the exposure
he needed to establish a big fanbase and become a force, both contest
wise and in sales, and he has run with it. --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2006 12:35:48 PM | message detail |
I can't see Luigi SFF'ing Kirby badly since Bowser > Luigi and I
feel like Bowser was rSFF'd a lil' bit, but I can't see Kirby SFF'ing
Luigi badly since Kirby and Luigi are probably on-par in SSB/M and SMB
>>> Kirby series-wise. I expect the match to stay close unless
yesterday was a sign that Kirby's dropped alot...and I'm not buying
into that until the contest is over and see it for myself. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
BDawg | Posted 10/9/2006 12:37:10 PM | message detail |
I can't help but think this last divison would've been more interesting
if you inserted Knuckles virtually anywhere. Well maybe not
Crono/Knuckles. Oh what the heck I'm sure someone would bite. --- Should I start running now? |
MasterMoltar | Posted 10/9/2006 12:39:40 PM | message detail |
Snap, I had forgotten about Air Ride. I hated the controls at first, but it was pretty fun! --- Back from the shadows... |
TehMissingLink | Posted 10/9/2006 12:43:15 PM | message detail |
1. It usually doesn't have a big focus, either -- we don't see many
Nintendo matches where both are in SSB and one is generally
well-preferred over the other, win or lose...so I usually don't have
to. I've been vocal about it lately because I think there's reason to
be vocal about it lately -- before Kirby/Bowser, why would one wanna
worry about it? I do not see much reason at all to be worrying about it. It, for the most part, is a complete non-factor in the vast majority of the matches -- and it'll almost never be the thing that changes a result. Trying to bring up SSBM as some sort of factor in that match is just an attempt to try to explain a result that may or may not need explaining. We are still not certain the validity of those results, even with the performance Kirby put up against the Prince. And if Luigi beats Kirby, I'm much more willing to say it was thanks to Luigi boosting in NSMB and any SFF going Luigi's way thanks to be in Mario before I would place blame on SSBM. 2. Don't act like people haven't changed their minds on a character before -- whether you have in real life or not, GameFAQs has certainly shown it happens. I have a feeling you don't know who you're arguing with considering the joke you could have made about "changing their minds." =p Just because people may have their favorites before the game doesn't mean they can't like them more or less after playing it, or like other characters more or less after it as well. I don't see how this is deniable. Liking them more or less as a result isn't going to necessarily be the deciding factor when it comes to two characters in SSBM. I have a hard time believing that SSBM is ever going to be enough of a tiebreaker to give one character an advantage over another, especially incredibly well known characters like Mario and Bowser. I, for one, never think about SSBM when I go to vote in these things. --- "Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!" |
PokemonPatriarch | Posted 10/9/2006 12:48:03 PM | message detail |
Well, a fact is that I'm soon to go from one of the 99 greatest
brackets to a lost cause (I put Zero in the Swett Sixteen). I
wholeheartidly SUPPORT Luigi from now on. Part of the reason why I put Crono over Samus is because big wins give big momentum to certain characters, making their strength look much greater than it actually is (so for the second year in a row, Samus will lose to the weaker character). Momentum being factored into the upcoming Kirby/Luigi is what really could turn it Luigi's way, because Weej just scored a BIG win against a fellow top 20 character, whereas Kirby looked really lackluster against a low midcarder (I'm not considering him even 70% as strong as Kratos). In spite of that, a win over Kirby would help Mario's shadow gain even more momentum against Sonic. I find it ironic that Luigi may do as well or better against Sonic than Zero did all those years ago. It's a BOLD prediction, but I call Luigi to only lose by a 48/52 margin. --- Proud fanboy of the Ogre Battle saga!!! ~~~Allah Approves~~~ |
GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/9/2006 12:51:14 PM | message detail |
Replacing The Prince with Knuckles would've given us the best four-pack in any contest. FACT. --- CB5 Oracle Challenge - Today's prediction: Luigi with 50.51% |
DpObliVion | Posted 10/9/2006 12:52:24 PM | message detail |
Yeah, that would be ****ing awesome. I still can't believe Knuckles failed to make it in.... --- Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko NEW YORK METS: 2006 NL EASTERN DIVISION CHAMPS |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2006 12:54:48 PM | message detail |
Nope, I had no idea...until now! Still though, I just don't buy K:CC and/or random variation helping Kirby like it did against Bowser -- even with you go by Tidus-2k4, it's a hefty jump to where he lands by Bowser. I do agree if Luigi wins it should be because of DS-ownership and/or NSMB, don't let me come off like that -- afterall, I would still think more SSB/M players favor Kirby than Luigi, heh. I, for one, never think about SSBM when I go to vote in these things. I think this has been a part of the problem. How many times do you think of a particular game when you go and vote for a character? --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
Redtooth | Posted 10/9/2006 1:04:16 PM | message detail |
Bowser vs Kirby might have been so close because it was a Nintendo main
vs a Nintendo villain. Hero vs Villain could have nullified any visible
SFF. I really can't imagine Luigi vs Kirby without SFF. I mean, we, arguably, have two Nintendo side-chars who now have their very own games, and a solid fanbase. Kirby's possible disappointment with PoP, and Luigi's slightly shocking beating of Zero would make Luigi seem like the stronger character. Yet, Kirby might benefit from SFF, pushing himself to victory. Kirby has a pretty big fanbase, tons of his own games and an overall demeanor that lends itself better then Luigi. Kirby "Happy" factor might not help much against someone "badass" like PoP, but it certainly won't hurt him against someone kind of cowardly like Luigi. If Kirby manages to win, it'll be by a slim margin, probably under 52%. If Luigi wins, it'll be by more, like 56%+, disproving anything I've said in Kirby's favor. Regardless of result, the important thing I think is that this match will by anomalous(real word?). Any stats we get from it will probably be proven wrong very quickly. We'll have to wait for the winner's match against Sonic (or Vincent, lol) to get something at least marginally accurate for anyone in the 4-pack. --- Z1mZum>Redtooth Nice list, I counted twenty that would be in my top ten - BlondeAfroHero7 |
therealmnm | Posted 10/9/2006 1:04:29 PM | message detail |
I agree with HM on that whole SSB/M issue. Bowser's popularity has very
little to do with SSB. Kirby/Bowser in 2k5 probably would have ended up
the same way had Bowser not even been
in SSBM. But then, I guess the argument would be changed to "Oh, Bowser
wasn't in SSBM so the SSBM fanbase prefer Kirby to him". --- Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness, Mega Man ZX |
Haste_2 | Posted 10/9/2006 1:09:09 PM | message detail |
I don't think usefulness in SSBM to make arguments for anything is
valid, myself...however, for characters that are mostly known for SSBM,
such as Marth, Ness, Captain Falcon, Ice Climbers, etc... their
usefulness in SSBM might be rather significant. I think character
design is still more important, though. Oh, and you know what I just realized? Luigi might be stronger than Dante. ;) --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
wavedash101 | Posted 10/9/2006 1:11:26 PM | message detail |
If Luigi>Dante, I fear for Lopen's sanity... --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
PokemonPatriarch | Posted 10/9/2006 1:12:40 PM | message detail |
Lol, proof why Captain Falcon won't get near the 30% range: you young folk don't know who he IS! On a more topical note, it'd be funny if Luigi gets the better of SFF. Then statistically Zero would place higher than Kirbz (lol SFF adjustments getting in the way of my fun). --- Proud fanboy of the Ogre Battle saga!!! ~~~Allah Approves~~~ |
XIII_rocks | Posted 10/9/2006 1:22:37 PM | message detail |
I can't help but think this last divison would've been more
interesting if you inserted Knuckles virtually anywhere. Well maybe not
Crono/Knuckles. Oh what the heck I'm sure someone would bite. Knuckles/Post-KHII Auron would be AWESOME. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz AC2K6 Score: 27/27 Today:Zero >_ |
trannyscience | Posted 10/9/2006 1:24:30 PM | message detail |
I think it's kind of silly to say that SSB has no bearing on Bowser's
strength when the series got 35% on Mario. sure it might help someone
like Kirby or Samus more, but to deny that it helps Bowser at all is pretty much silly. --- xyzzy "12 percent of those who liked opera had experimented with magic mushrooms." - Reuters |
DpObliVion | Posted 10/9/2006 1:25:12 PM | message detail |
I agree with tranny. --- Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko NEW YORK METS: 2006 NL EASTERN DIVISION CHAMPS |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/9/2006 1:27:12 PM | message detail |
If Luigi doesn't beat Kirby, than Zero will have been one of the
biggest falls from grace we've seen in these contests, right up there
with Magus. TuRtLe ~~~ I used my brain and statistics to make my bracket. Karma Hunter used MGS fanboyism. KH won. Commit it to memory. |
THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/9/2006 1:28:19 PM | message detail |
I can't see SSBM mattering for characters who already have massive
amounts of exposure. For characters like Ness, it's barely enough to
get them over the fodder line. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 2: W, 52-14 vs. Etna |
XIII_rocks | Posted 10/9/2006 1:28:57 PM | message detail |
I think it's kind of silly to say that SSB has no bearing on
Bowser's strength when the series got 35% on Mario. sure it might help
someone like Kirby or Samus more, but to deny that it helps Bowser at
all is pretty much silly. Zing. And not quite, BT. Magus' overratedness was proven in one, stunningly awesome match. This...really wasn't. We'll have had ample time to prepare for it. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz AC2K6 Score: 27/27 Today:Zero >_ |
wavedash101 | Posted 10/9/2006 1:29:28 PM | message detail |
And unlike Magus, Zero wasnt really considered overrated. Thats why I think its gotta be a Luigi boost...probably. --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/9/2006 1:30:09 PM | message detail |
Magus' overratedness was proven in one, stunningly awesome match.
This...really wasn't. We'll have had ample time to prepare for it. Uhh...There were plenty of things that pointed to Magus being overrated. I didn't pick Squall to beat him purely out of fanboyism. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 2: W, 52-14 vs. Etna |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/9/2006 1:30:54 PM | message detail |
Even if it's a Luigi boost, I can't see it changing a 51-49 match in
Zero's favour (with a potentially underrated Zero, although that's all
but dismissed now) into this. TuRtLe ~~~ I used my brain and statistics to make my bracket. Karma Hunter used MGS fanboyism. KH won. Commit it to memory. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2006 1:31:03 PM | message detail |
Put Magus in Prince of Persia's spot. The fun! --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
XIII_rocks | Posted 10/9/2006 1:31:58 PM | message detail |
Uhh...There were plenty of things that pointed to Magus being
overrated. I didn't pick Squall to beat him purely out of fanboyism. Yeah, but to that extent? I just think that nobody apart from Smurf REALLY saw Knuckles > Magus coming - it was one of the biggest shocks ever. We'll have had time to prepare for the possibility of Zero being horribly overrated. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz AC2K6 Score: 27/27 Today:Zero >_ |
trannyscience | Posted 10/9/2006 1:33:50 PM | message detail |
good god, you guys are making it sound like Zero was supposed to win
with 65% here or that 0% of the board took Luigi. it's a 51/49 match
through last year's stats and Zero didn't look good last year. there is
no comparison to Magus / Knuckles here. --- xyzzy "12 percent of those who liked opera had experimented with magic mushrooms." - Reuters |
THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/9/2006 1:34:53 PM | message detail |
Meh, saying Smurf "saw it coming" is giving him too much credit. It's
like giving HaRRicH credit for Kuja/Master Hand solely on the basis
that he thought MH could break the fodder line and beat Falco Lombardi.
Sure, he got the match right, but the logic (or lack thereof, in
Smurf's case) was totally wrong. Not to take anything away from HaRRicH getting the match right. It was just the outstanding example in my mind at the time. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 2: W, 52-14 vs. Etna |
THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/9/2006 1:35:53 PM | message detail |
Yeah, the amount of people utterly shocked by this match is surprising.
It's not like Zero was an overwhelming favorite. Sure, Luigi's margin
of victory is a little astounding, but the idea of him winning was
never as farfetched to me as some made it sound. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 2: W, 52-14 vs. Etna |
wavedash101 | Posted 10/9/2006 1:36:42 PM | message detail |
I think its less we had time to prepare for an overrated Zero and more
that Luigi is (maybe) finally performing up to everyone's original
expectations for him. He was such an overwhelming disappointment, it
was just a matter of time before he brought his A game. --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/9/2006 1:39:01 PM | message detail |
At the 16:35 mark, this match has 91596 votes. To compare with other matches at the same time: Samus/Nidoran F - 77245 Riku/Yoshi - 93956 Mega Man/Axel - 77885 Kirby/Prince - 90689 Luigi sure knows how to draw votes. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 2: W, 52-14 vs. Etna |