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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 382

TheSwizzle | Posted 10/9/2006 10:52:51 AM | message detail
So with SF Ryu gone last year and Zero dropping out today, does that leave Bowser as the last three-time plus entrant who's only lost to Noble Nine members, despite not being one himself?

Though the winner of Aeris/Zelda would be just on the cusp of it this year, right?
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/9/2006 10:52:58 AM | message detail
Indeed...I'd be surprised if Yoshi was stronger than Luigi now, though I was thinking/hoping Yoshi would be above Luigi before today. Yoshi wasn't convincing in any of his matches last year, and now we'll have to say Riku > Zero in order to say Yoshi > Luigi. There's just too much against Yoshi now. I used 3 different methods that all estimated between 29% and 31% on BL for Yoshi, interestingly enough...I didn't want to believe Yoshi was already underneath Luigi.

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Cecil XIX | Posted 10/9/2006 10:54:48 AM | message detail
I've been thinking about how Snake is going to benefit from MGS4, and it occurred to me that after that game comes out CJayC might use a picture of Old Man Snake every contest. Between that and Solid ****, is Snake guaranteed to underperform *twice* every year? How bad would that be?
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/9/2006 11:04:04 AM | message detail
Well, this match is making Hayabusa look pretty bad, and Luigi look pretty good. How could that be bad for Yoshi > Dante?

Because, as I said, I don't think Luigi and Yoshi can be connected like that anymore. Luigi's gotten much stronger since that match, while it doesn't seem Yoshi has changed all that much. Granted he's been behind SFF forever, but his match against Riku doesn't make him look so hot.

Even if Zero is lower than we thought (and I wouldn't put Hayabusa that much lower. He isn't losing to Kefka), Dante still has a bit of room to fall below he gets to Yoshi's level. But I dunno, Vincent and Squall have me thinking that Dante hasn't lost a step since last year.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2006 11:05:00 AM | message detail
I remember that too, and I had Robot > Hand, and never wavered. I also had Kirby > Luigi, and not wavering!

"The winner of Robotnik/Sin will beat the winner of Kuja/MH, and I have Robotnik > MH." I forget how many times I argued for that, and it was very tiresome, heh. Good times though -- one of the best contest moments of my, er..."career" I guess.


I didn't do the odds with the pretty colors or anything because I don't really know how to.

I DEMAND PRETTY COLORS OR ANYTHING
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2006 11:05:13 AM | message detail
1. I agree. And then once we DO consider SFF, it's even more impressive by Kirby since all logic would point to him doing worse than expected against Bowser. Even if he is actually weaker than he showed against Bowser, that just means he stole SFF. And if he can take it from Bowser, he can take it from Luigi.

2. Looking ahead...unless Luigi boosted again, while Kirby did not, I say Kirby still has a slight advantage next round. Kirby got 48% on Bowser. If there was rSFF there, and considering Kirby isn't a Mario character, I can't see Kirby being rSFFed even by Yoshi, and there's a good chance Kirby would SFF Luigi, who's weaker than Bowser. I don't think Kirby's 62% on Prince of Persia is a valid argument for Kirby's weakness... say, 25% on BL would be well within the range of what I would expected PoP to be around.

3. As for the people saying if Kirby can rSFF Bowser and look stronger, what's stopping him from doing the same on Luigi, I'm going to agree there. That's really why I've felt so good about Kirby > Luigi, but not Kirby > Zero. Seriously, if Kirby can't do anything against Luigi, yet he could against Bowser, who's higher on the Nintendo chain, I'll be dumbfounded.


As somebody who's argued for Kirby rSFF'ing Bowser constantly through-out the past year, I want to suggest this idea...

...time and time again, I've said that the reason Kirby was able to over-perform on Bowser was probably because of the SSB/M fanbase. Kirby seems to be well-liked by the casuals (and I think he was real good in SSB, too? Don't remember), and he was in both SSB and SSBM. Bowser, meanwhile, was only in SSBM and he ssuucckkss. Bad. We know that SMB >>> Kirby series-wise and we know stats suggest Bowser should have beat Kirby worse than 52.12% Kirby's Canvas Curse probably helped some, yes, but even compared by Tidus-2k4 there's almost no way that DS game should have helped him like that alone. So, work with me and assume it was the SSB/M that helped make that particular over-performance happen (assuming it happened, of course)...

...compare Kirby and Luigi in SSB/M now. Luigi was in both SSB and SSBM, and -- though I don't think he was as liked as Kirby -- he was easily above Bowser in either game. If it was this fanbase that helped Kirby rSFF Bowser, that particular fanbase should be much more split now so I would hardly consider that to be a big advantage for Kirby here. Yes, Bowser should be able to beat Luigi worse than Kirby (enough to keep Kirby > Luigi possible), but there's three different fanbases at work in the Nintendo fanbase here, and the one I think made a difference in Kirby/Bowser now is up for grabs and is probably split even...

...so then, when you consider Luigi is currently beating Zero worse than any Kirby is ever projected to while Kirby didn't come off as impressive against PoP (though that may have been all PoP, who knows -- Kirby didn't come out looking like a star though), also think about the SSB/M fanbase this time if you believe Kirby rSFF'd Bowser please. Though Bowser should be a good deal stronger than Luigi, Luigi's got intangibles to match Kirby that Bowser didn't, so I'm not thinking we'll see rSFF and such next round. It's looking good for Luigi-backers right now.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2006 11:25:03 AM | message detail
Also, as a reminder, as of last year Kirby was expected to get 54.13% on Zero, and that's with the idea of both Kirby being over-rated and Zero being under-rated. While Zero being under-rated is no longer being considered, Kirby being over-rated is still fair game, and Luigi's still above that number as well (54.95%). Kirby should hope that Zero gains in percentage today and dropped in strength in the past year right now.
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 10/9/2006 11:27:47 AM | message detail
Unless we don't buy into the SSB theory, in which case Kirby still looks fine.
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KingBartz | Posted 10/9/2006 11:28:37 AM | message detail
I'm backing Luigi over Kirby.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2006 11:30:25 AM | message detail
You ain't got to buy into it, but it's still what I consider to be the best reason Kirby did what he did against Bowser. Not that I'm always right, not by any means, heh, but for those who think that works then that makes him look worse against Luigi.
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transience | Posted 10/9/2006 11:31:49 AM | message detail
Kirby/Luigi is a tossup for me now. yesterday I would have said Kirby was a demanding favourite, but after seeing this I don't have a clue as to what's gonna happen in that match.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2006 11:31:58 AM | message detail
Also, Kirby isn't really looking to be fine -- Luigi's still ahead of Kirby if Kirby and Zero are constant. It looks like Zero's going to chop Luigi down to size more here and change that, but even then...I wouldn't expect Kirby to do to Bowser like he did to Luigi. Maybe a little, but hardly noticable...assuming I'm right, heh.
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 10/9/2006 11:32:24 AM | message detail
You ain't got to buy into it, but it's still what I consider to be the best reason Kirby did what he did against Bowser. Not that I'm always right, not by any means, heh, but for those who think that works then that makes him look worse against Luigi.

Well, Luigi isn't such a favorite in SSB and SSBM anyway. And Kirby was one of the three best characters in the original. So even IF the SSB theory is sound, I'd say Kirby would take that vote from Luigi.
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/9/2006 11:33:19 AM | message detail
So with SF Ryu gone last year and Zero dropping out today, does that leave Bowser as the last three-time plus entrant who's only lost to Noble Nine members, despite not being one himself?

That's correct.

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2006 11:35:15 AM | message detail
PoP still worries me as well. I mean, I know PoP was completely untested, but before the match I remember saying "as long as Kirby doubles PoP then I'm not going to worry about him in the second round"...and then PoP got 38+%. That, along with Luigi trouncing Zero here and Luigi being able to match Kirby in the SSB fanbase where Bowser can't, that's worry-worthy. I'm going to keep true with Kirby > Luigi for now unless Luigi finishes higher than he's got right now...but it'll be an ugly fight.
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/9/2006 11:36:27 AM | message detail
I really don't think Luigi ends up higher than 1% in the stats this year when compared to last.

I really just think you're underestimating how much a well received new Mario game can do for Mario characters. If this were any other character with a big game to boost, you guys would be all over it. >>

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Tai | Posted 10/9/2006 11:37:58 AM | message detail
WTF @ Luigi > Yoshi :( What happened in 2k4? :((((((
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2006 11:39:04 AM | message detail
Well, Luigi isn't such a favorite in SSB and SSBM anyway. And Kirby was one of the three best characters in the original. So even IF the SSB theory is sound, I'd say Kirby would take that vote from Luigi.

I figure so as well, but nothing like Kirby did with Bowser, and considering it wasn't really a killer difference in that match (though certainly noticable), I would think it would play a much smaller part in Kirby/Luigi...so, I wouldn't think it's noticable the difference Kirby could get over Luigi like this.

Luigi would have massive SSB/M favoritism over Bowser as well. It's just a matter of how much the SSB/M vote will really matter here, and I don't think it'll matter in Kirby/Luigi...I think if it does it'll favor Kirby, but only just.
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SmurfFAQs | Posted 10/9/2006 11:39:26 AM | message detail
Nothing. Zero just tanked along with MM as a whole.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/9/2006 11:40:11 AM | message detail
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/9/2006 11:42:22 AM | message detail
The best character Kirby has ever beaten is Tidus. He's lost to Bowser, Squall, and Alucard. Though you could argue that Luigi is definitely below Bowser and Squall, but he's above Alucard (though that was 2003).

And Yoshi beat Luigi in 2004, so you could argue that Yoshi is better than Luigi, and Zero is better than Dante.

Yoshi > Luigi
Luigi > Zero
Zero > Dante

Yoshi > Dante

I'm sure there's strong arguments against me though.

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2006 11:42:41 AM | message detail
Smurf will come out of this looking like a genius in the same sense that he looked like a genius after Knuckles beat Magus.
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Big Bob | Posted 10/9/2006 11:43:30 AM | message detail
Hypothetical situation:

For the final match, Samus gets her blue jumpsuit pic.

Board's reaction?
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transience | Posted 10/9/2006 11:44:46 AM | message detail
one such argument is that Dante beat Hayabusa worse than Zero did last year. another is that Luigi is beating Zero worse than Sonic did - Luigi > Sonic confirmed!
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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/9/2006 11:45:31 AM | message detail
While Knux/Magus came down to his own fanboyism, he has a point about MM. I don't think Axel is "low-level fodder", but it was definitely an underperformance. Put that together with today and what Yuna did to Roll and you have definite cause for an MM decrease.

Unfortunately, 2 of those 3 involve untested characters, and today always had the potential to happen.
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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/9/2006 11:46:00 AM | message detail
Luigi would have massive SSB/M favoritism over Bowser as well. It's just a matter of how much the SSB/M vote will really matter here, and I don't think it'll matter in Kirby/Luigi...I think if it does it'll favor Kirby, but only just.

You took care of how I feel on this perfectly. It's not going to matter at all; it never has. I sincerely doubt people even think about SSBM when they go to vote in these polls. Some people might, but there is likely a clear preference there without even thinking about SSBM. I really hate how this even gets brought up in relation to Nintendo SFF like it matters.

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Haste_2 | Posted 10/9/2006 11:48:43 AM | message detail
While Knux/Magus came down to his own fanboyism, he has a point about MM. I don't think Axel is "low-level fodder", but it was definitely an underperformance. Put that together with today and what Yuna did to Roll and you have definite cause for an MM decrease.

Not to mention it's looking like Zero has fallen two years in a row now...it almost seems hard to deny Mega Man must've dropped by now.

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DpObliVion | Posted 10/9/2006 11:49:27 AM | message detail
one such argument is that Dante beat Hayabusa worse than Zero did last year. another is that Luigi is beating Zero worse than Sonic did - Luigi > Sonic confirmed!

So your second point invalidates your first point.

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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/9/2006 11:50:17 AM | message detail
Luigi > Sonic confirmed!

Believe.

Bowser > Crono, too!

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transience | Posted 10/9/2006 11:50:23 AM | message detail
the second one was sarcasm! unless you really believe three year old matches are valid down to the percent, that is.
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 10/9/2006 11:51:02 AM | message detail

You took care of how I feel on this perfectly. It's not going to matter at all; it never has. I sincerely doubt people even think about SSBM when they go to vote in these polls. Some people might, but there is likely a clear preference there without even thinking about SSBM. I really hate how this even gets brought up in relation to Nintendo SFF like it matters.

That's my feeling too. Which is why I think it's ridiculous to think that it explains Kirby doing well on Bowser. Hell, the first time we had a match that we could really and truly equate to SSB SFF was Bowser vs Ness, and Bowser scooped up that SFF handily despite being in only one SSB and being worse than Ness.
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/9/2006 11:51:44 AM | message detail
Though the winner of Aeris/Zelda would be just on the cusp of it this year, right?

Yeah, the winner would qualify with the minimum three contests.

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2006 11:51:56 AM | message detail
Oh, yeah, he's making points, but he's making these points solely by means of his fanboyism since the beginning, and there is little doubt in my mind he jumps for joy when something actually supports what he says. No, Mega Man losing strength isn't a bad thought here, but he would have been getting the same way if there was some kind of evidence that showed Amy Rose had a hint of a chance against KOS-MOS. He gets very audible with matches between characters he loves or hates and making arguing difficult since he won't really listen to the other side.

"How many other characters can get 45% on Mario?!"
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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/9/2006 11:52:27 AM | message detail
Not to mention it's looking like Zero has fallen two years in a row now...it almost seems hard to deny Mega Man must've dropped by now.


Yeah. I think any hope of Megaman beating the winner of Sonic/Crono is pretty much done, and Snake/MM is looking better than ever.

(Snake > Male Bracket ftw!)
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/9/2006 11:54:14 AM | message detail
I know it was sarcasm, but I guess my point is that I don't put too much into percentages, especially when the difference was just 2.2%.

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/9/2006 11:54:17 AM | message detail
Yeah, if people voted based on tiers, or whichever character was better in SSB:M, Samus would have beat Mario! (Or Ganondorf would have beaten Samus, because Ganon > all in SSBM!)

Luigi would have massive SSB/M favoritism over Bowser as well.

I don't exactly buy that. It would probably be more Mario character favoritism over anything else, but I would see Luigi getting destroyed by Bowser. I mean, if Yoshi could turn a potentially 50-50 match into a 55-45 one, and Yoshi could only get 43% on Bowser, Luigi would probably only get around 40% (Bowser = Squall? Uh ohs!).
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2006 11:54:18 AM | message detail
Yeah, but then compare Mario/Ness -- Mario beat Ness noticably worse than what a SFF'd-by-Bowser-Ness would have suggested, and you can't deny Mario is much more to SSB/M than Bowser.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/9/2006 11:54:28 AM | message detail
Oh, Harr, I'm 100% with you on everything you said, but Knuckles > Magus was absolutely unsupportable unless you were a huge Sonic fanboy...I mean, it was easy to argue Magus' overratedness, but to THAT extent?

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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/9/2006 11:55:36 AM | message detail
Mario beat Ness noticably worse than what a SFF'd-by-Bowser-Ness would have suggested, and you can't deny Mario is much more to SSB/M than Bowser.

It has nothing to do with SSBM. It has everything to do with the fact he's Mario.

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/9/2006 11:55:46 AM | message detail
And really, people linking Zero to MM is getting annoying. Axel was untested and a huge wild card because of his fan-favorite status. At least wait until MM/Ryu to make claims of "MM iz teh d00m3d!1!11"
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2006 11:55:46 AM | message detail
Right, it was like KOS-MOS/Amy, except it worked out.
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/9/2006 11:56:40 AM | message detail
It took Knuckles one of the biggest boosts we've seen, bar the KH boosts, to take out Magus.

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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/9/2006 11:59:01 AM | message detail
Right, it was like KOS-MOS/Amy, except it worked out.

Exactly. Very much hit-and-miss.

And really, people linking Zero to MM is getting annoying. Axel was untested and a huge wild card because of his fan-favorite status. At least wait until MM/Ryu to make claims of "MM iz teh d00m3d!1!11"

Umm..why is that a bad thing to do? Zero is MM's "side higher-tier character", which most NNers have (Ganondorf for Link, Vincent/Tifa/Aeris for Cloud and Sephy, Bowser for Mario, Zero for MM, Shadow/Knuckles for Sonic) - it stands to reason that a Zero decrease would have some bearing on MM.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/9/2006 11:59:21 AM | message detail
Remember all those favorite Mario character polls? Bowser did (much) worse than Luigi and Yoshi, yet he's almost certainly the strongest of the three. What does that suggest? Within the core Nintendo fanbase, people might favor someone else over Bowser, but he makes it up with the non-core fanbase. It's the same reasoning that I took Mario over Samus last year - Mario wins the core fanbase hands down, and the non-core fanbase is more or less split.

But would Luigi have the same problem that Bowser (and Samus) have? Against Yoshi, maybe. Against Kirby? Don't think so.
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/9/2006 11:59:49 AM | message detail
In support of Knuckles, the only character he had previously lost to was Solid Snake, and he had beaten Kefka and Yuna, no small tasks. Both were 1 seeds in their respective 32-character specialty brackets.

Though I guess Magus still would have been expected to do better, beating Ganondorf is a much bigger accomplishment, and he only lost to Crono and Link.

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TehMissingLink | Posted 10/9/2006 12:00:27 PM | message detail
But would Luigi have the same problem that Bowser (and Samus) have? Against Yoshi, maybe. Against Kirby? Don't think so.

I don't think so either, myself.

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transience | Posted 10/9/2006 12:00:30 PM | message detail
yeah, Magus didn't just flop. Knuckles boosted through the roof.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/9/2006 12:01:01 PM | message detail
People that still link Yoshi and Luigi are more annoying than those who link Mega Man and Zero !!
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/9/2006 12:02:22 PM | message detail
RPGuy, you're forgetting that Kirby isn't a Mario character. That means Kirby shouldn't act like a Mario character with regards to SFF. We saw how badly Yoshi was SFFed by Link.

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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/9/2006 12:02:28 PM | message detail
yeah, Magus didn't just flop. Knuckles boosted through the roof.

Which is pure sex.
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