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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/8/2006 9:19:40 PM | message detail
Zero :(



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, and thanks to RockMFR for finding the missing ones!
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games (down for now, so here's a new link):
http://transience.paragonsigma.com/top100.txt



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SHINE GET 64 | Posted 10/8/2006 9:25:58 PM | message detail
Mark Smith is a funny guy!
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Big Bob | Posted 10/8/2006 9:26:08 PM | message detail
Ulti is OFF the top 50!
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ff6man | Posted 10/8/2006 9:26:12 PM | message detail
Luigi. :-)
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Today's Match: Luigi Vs. Zero
FFDragon | Posted 10/8/2006 9:26:51 PM | message detail
Luigi > Kirby

I said it from Day 1!
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MarkSmith | Posted 10/8/2006 9:29:29 PM | message detail
match isnt over
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/8/2006 10:21:01 PM | message detail
Sure it is.

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HoorayProxies | Posted 10/8/2006 10:21:05 PM | message detail
Soul, I told you, you lost your right to talk about contests after that Alyx fiasco. Just stop!

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Janus5000 | Posted 10/8/2006 10:21:22 PM | message detail
Scary 500.
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SecksThaNemesis | Posted 10/8/2006 10:22:14 PM | message detail
Absolutely amazing 500. Possibly the best in S&D history.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/8/2006 10:22:15 PM | message detail
Wow, the whining for this match is worse than Phoenix vs Gordon, and Ganondorf vs Vincent and is rivaling Kairi vs Claire.

Also, these vote totals are amazing. They're already ahead of Ganondorf vs Vincent and it's only 1h 20 min in?
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/8/2006 10:22:22 PM | message detail
Heh, just a thought...remember Cloud/Vyse and Tifa/Vyse? Any chance we're seeing something similar today?
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Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest.
It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/8/2006 10:22:35 PM | message detail
Damnit, I was going to make the 500 Luigi>the male bracket.

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Do you really need me to bring out the stats?- Azp2k32 on why Zero would double Luigi
Zero_Kuribo | Posted 10/8/2006 10:23:25 PM | message detail
:( Zero indeed.

And I dont think Luigi got such a boost from NSMB, not this much.

Id say it was the same thing that gave Mario that power of hell he got last year.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/8/2006 10:23:26 PM | message detail
Heh, just a thought...remember Cloud/Vyse and Tifa/Vyse? Any chance we're seeing something similar today?

Not really.

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Do you really need me to bring out the stats?- Azp2k32 on why Zero would double Luigi
XxSoulxX | Posted 10/8/2006 10:23:39 PM | message detail
Soul, I told you, you lost your right to talk about contests after that Alyx fiasco. Just stop!

Says the man who predicted Ganondorf to win the male bracket. Go back to your little corner EC and keep quiet!
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HoorayProxies | Posted 10/8/2006 10:23:49 PM | message detail
This Luigi/Sonic talk needs to stop happening. I'd be less surprised if Vincent > Sonic, than if Luigi > Zero.

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HoorayProxies | Posted 10/8/2006 10:24:14 PM | message detail
Says the man who predicted Ganondorf to win the male bracket. Go back to your little corner EC and keep quiet!

I have a weakness for HM, it doesn't count!

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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/8/2006 10:24:57 PM | message detail
I'm not talking about in other games. I'm talking about in NSMB. Is Luigi any different from Mario at all in that game? Really? One is red and one is green, and that's about all that is different between the two.

I'm pretty sure you're not getting it here. Luigi's role, while helpful thanks to being playable, is not necessarily the key here. That just reinforces that he should boost since he was in the game and playable. The major thing is that a big new Mario game came out that everyone loved. That is the key for Mario characters to increase.

Calling Luigi close to Vincent is INCREDIBLY shocking to me, after seeing the past 4 or 5 contests. Luigi is nowhere near as strong as Ganondorf or Bowser, or Yoshi for that matter. Now, all of a sudden, he becomes stronger then Zero (who some believed could beat Ganondorf on a good day a few years ago), because of NSMB?

Uh, did you miss last year? That was what really brought Luigi up to this level. He was projected to lose by about 49% in this match against Zero last year. This year you add in NSMB and a possible Zero decrease and everything should make plenty of sense to you. Why is it so hard to believe, really?

I'm telling you, if you believe that Luigi boosted that much because of NSMB, then Bowser over Crono should be close to a lock, as everyone has fought Bowser at least twice in that game, while only a few people have played as Luigi.

This match isn't over yet, which means we have no clue what the percentage is going to end up as. If this ends closer to around 52%, this match becomes much more reasonable without even having to drop Zero. The fact that your so against a new Mario game that Luigi is in helping him is mind boggling.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/8/2006 10:25:36 PM | message detail
No way Luigi has a shot in hell against Sonic, or even at overperforming on him IMO. Shadow not only looked like Sonic, he's designed to be "the cool Sonic" (who in turn was designed to be "the cool Mario").

Luigi is the cowardly Mario.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 10/8/2006 10:25:47 PM | message detail
I know nothing about times of voting throughout the day. Can somebody tell me when Luigi/Zero's peak/weak times are? Thanks!
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/8/2006 10:26:24 PM | message detail

Luigi is the cowardly Mario.


Doesn't stop him from beating the "badass" Zero!!

Luigi is so getting 47% on Sonic!!!

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/8/2006 10:26:34 PM | message detail
Did that MarkSmith guy just admit to stuffing?

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HoorayProxies | Posted 10/8/2006 10:27:06 PM | message detail
Luigi's best time is morning/after-school, but there is no after-school vote tomorrow. Either way, I don't see Luigi winning the day vote. Zero slowly chips away at it all day and brings it to 52.5% or so.

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rpgapzx | Posted 10/8/2006 10:27:31 PM | message detail
THE BOOST! IT LIVES!
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HoorayProxies | Posted 10/8/2006 10:27:34 PM | message detail
Oh, by the way, Luigi >>>> Mario. He has about 18,000 times the personality!

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/8/2006 10:27:49 PM | message detail
Wait... Americans get Columbus Day off?

Lamesauce! That means you get tomorrow AND some day in November off >_<

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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/8/2006 10:28:03 PM | message detail
Mario > > Luigi.

Fact of life.

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/8/2006 10:28:30 PM | message detail
Any reasoning behind that KP? Not to say that's what's happening here, not at all...but Cloud didn't look like he SFF'd Vyse much at all yet Tifa embarrassed him one year later. Do the same thing to Mario/Zero/Luigi to a lesser extent and there you go.

It's worth keeping in mind, that's all, though I don't necessarily buy it yet.
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It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
Zero_Kuribo | Posted 10/8/2006 10:28:59 PM | message detail
Well have to see Luigi's match agianst Kirby to see how he'll handle Sonic/Vince.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/8/2006 10:29:24 PM | message detail
14962 is where this match is now
14720 is where Ganny/Vincent was

There goes that "2000 votes stuffed for Luigi!!!" theory

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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/8/2006 10:29:45 PM | message detail
Cloud didn't SSF Vyse as much simply because Vyse is already extremely weak, and Cloud can't get much stronger anyway. Tifa had room to improve on the SFF.

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Do you really need me to bring out the stats?- Azp2k32 on why Zero would double Luigi
Zero_Kuribo | Posted 10/8/2006 10:29:49 PM | message detail
Luigi's best time is morning/after-school, but there is no after-school vote tomorrow.

Oh snap, Columbus day.

Glad I got tommorow off <_<
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/8/2006 10:30:01 PM | message detail
It's worth keeping in mind, that's all, though I don't necessarily buy it yet.

At the least, we'll be able to find the answer out to that question this contest. If it was just Luigi SFFing Zero, he wouldn't perform better on Sonic...or Kirby, I guess.

(I fully expect Luigi > Kirby!)

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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/8/2006 10:30:56 PM | message detail
That is the key for Mario characters to increase.

Do you think Wario or Yoshi would boost because of NSMB?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/8/2006 10:31:41 PM | message detail
The "lack of Mario/Link in the main bracket" theory actually making sense right now is.... weird.

Zero finally goes 50-50, 90 minutes in.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/8/2006 10:31:47 PM | message detail
Man, I wonder how much the board is going to be humiliated by the casuals this time around.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/8/2006 10:31:58 PM | message detail
Luigi only gained 4 votes that time.

ZOMG

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Do you really need me to bring out the stats?- Azp2k32 on why Zero would double Luigi
Heroic Mario | Posted 10/8/2006 10:32:47 PM | message detail
Do you think Wario or Yoshi would boost because of NSMB?

Wario? Hell no. Yoshi? Possibly. But his presence was so far away from that game that I'm not sure. It'd certainly be smaller than a Mario or Luigi increase.

And if you doubt that so much, do you think Mario characters just will never increase again or something? Because they sure as hell aren't going to turn into amazingly deep characters. >>

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Janus5000 | Posted 10/8/2006 10:32:52 PM | message detail
Man, I wonder how much the board is going to be humiliated by the casuals this time around.

Probably almost as much as they were five days ago.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 10/8/2006 10:33:18 PM | message detail
Okay, here's another question I have: if this isn't Luigi increasing, why would Zero be decreasing? His series, insofar as I can tell, is still popular, the X series is still going strong, and if you take the route that characters benefit even from games in their series that they're not in, the ZX series just came out, after all. What reason is there for Zero to fall? (Note that I'm not saying he hasn't or anything; this match is just so damn delightfully confusing to me that I'm trying to piece it all together.)
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HoorayProxies | Posted 10/8/2006 10:33:32 PM | message detail
...I was just going to bed. I swear to god if Zero starts winning updates.

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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/8/2006 10:33:52 PM | message detail
He was projected to lose by about 49% in this match against Zero last year.

Zero's one bad match in his entire contest career. I wasn't too quick to believe it. Now, I realize it must have been completely right, and then some!

The fact that your so against a new Mario game that Luigi is in helping him is mind boggling.

I'm not against it. I just don't see how Mario version 2 is going to boost this much because of a role after the main game is finished.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/8/2006 10:33:59 PM | message detail
If Link not being in the main bracket had made a difference, Ganondorf might have actually put up a fight against Vincent!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/8/2006 10:34:12 PM | message detail
From BlAcK TuRtLe Posted 10/9/2006 1:27:49 AM #027
Wait... Americans get Columbus Day off?

Lamesauce! That means you get tomorrow AND some day in November off >_<


Well you have to leave it to a country like America to celebrate Columbus' actions. Well maybe not Columbus directly, but his discovery of the New World led to the Spanish destruction of the Indies, which was basically a brutal mass murder of Indians so that Spain and eventually all of Europe would have a new land to rule over.

Read The Destruction of the Indies. Nasty stuff.

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HoorayProxies | Posted 10/8/2006 10:34:33 PM | message detail
Okay, here's another question I have: if this isn't Luigi increasing, why would Zero be decreasing? His series, insofar as I can tell, is still popular, the X series is still going strong, and if you take the route that characters benefit even from games in their series that they're not in, the ZX series just came out, after all. What reason is there for Zero to fall? (Note that I'm not saying he hasn't or anything; this match is just so damn delightfully confusing to me that I'm trying to piece it all together.)

Because he took a dip in 2K5, and if he took a dip then, it's perfectly reasonable for him to continue dipping.

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Ed Bellis | Posted 10/8/2006 10:35:08 PM | message detail
Off-topic, I'm with Ulti. Columbus is the biggest slave trader in world history and one of the greatest war criminals that ever lived. How and why we celebrate his very existence disgusts me.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/8/2006 10:35:34 PM | message detail
Hmm.. that MarkSmith guy makes me think..
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 10/8/2006 10:35:45 PM | message detail
Things are slowing down...
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HoorayProxies | Posted 10/8/2006 10:35:59 PM | message detail

Well you have to leave it to a country like America to celebrate Columbus' actions. Well maybe not Columbus directly, but his discovery of the New World led to the Spanish destruction of the Indies, which was basically a brutal mass murder of Indians so that Spain and eventually all of Europe would have a new land to rule over.


Leave it to Ulti to turn a CS&D topic, into a "hate America they're stupid lol" topic! I agree, but it's just too funny!

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