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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 381

MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/8/2006 9:46:04 PM | message detail
46% update... sign? Nah.
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Luigi vs. Zero / Bracket: Zero / Vote: Zero (26/27)
Tomorrow / Bracket: Crono / Vote: Falcon
Tequilla Gundam | Posted 10/8/2006 9:46:36 PM | message detail
1,000 vote barrier broken. If Luigi finishes this thing with a 24k vote lead :(
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/8/2006 9:47:25 PM | message detail
Though I sure hope this Luigi talk is just kidding around. Luigi ain't pulling a Shadow (assuming he even gets to Sonic), and I'd expect Sonic to beat him worse than he should if anything.

Luigi > Sonic is all but assured, man! =p

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/8/2006 9:47:33 PM | message detail
ONLY DOWN 54!!!!1

:'(

~*ST*~
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/8/2006 9:48:04 PM | message detail
Heh, wow...Luigi's doin' amazing.

Never doubt Luigi in a 2/7-seed match that's statistically close. Even if the 7-seed is Link.
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Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest.
It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/8/2006 9:48:05 PM | message detail
And since my bracket (and heart) are broken with Zero losing this match, the following results would make me joygasm:

Luigi > Kirby
Luigi breaking 47% on Sonic
Vincent breaking 49% on Sonic
Bowser breaking 49% on Crono
Sonic beating Crono
Master Chief breaking 47% on Auron after beating Subby 55-45
Snake beating Mega Man 55-45
Squall breaking 49% on Snake
Sora breaking 48% on MM
Yoshi beating Danta 55-45 <_<
Snake winning the male side
Samus struggles with Tifa
Zelda destroys Aeris
Samus destroys Zelda
Chun-Li > Yuna
Link > Cloud > Snake > Mario > Sephiroth > Smaus in the battle royal

TuRtLe
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I used my brain and statistics to make my bracket. Karma Hunter used MGS fanboyism. KH won. Commit it to memory.
Redtooth | Posted 10/8/2006 9:48:19 PM | message detail
Looking over my zero bracket, it makes me sad that I had this one right, but lost it to Vincent. My regular bracket is probably toast, and I'll end up with a +1 bracket instead of a zero.

and a 53% update for Luigi. I just want Zero to win a few and stop looking so weak =(

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Z1mZum>Redtooth
Nice list, I counted twenty that would be in my top ten - BlondeAfroHero7
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 10/8/2006 9:48:47 PM | message detail
Holy ****, I came to the board 20 minutes ago, saw a topic about Zero losing and thought it was a joke. Totally blindsided by this upset. This contest just went from dull to good.
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CB06 - Score: 24/26 Rank: Tied - 858th Yesterday's Pick: Ganondorf
Today's Pick: Kirby Tomorrow's Pick: Zero Losses: Cortana, Ganon
EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 10/8/2006 9:49:16 PM | message detail
I'm not saying there's vote stuffing, but with the talk before this match of vote stuffing + this being ahead of Ganon/Vincent right now, it's possible. I hope it isn't (Luigi > Zero, Kirby > Luigi baby!), but it's still possible.

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I'm so hardcore.
XxSoulxX | Posted 10/8/2006 9:49:42 PM | message detail
I'm sorry. I still think it's absolutely crazy for Luigi to be this much stronger due to NSMB. This has to be a sign of Zero weakening.
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Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII.
Coolsnow | Posted 10/8/2006 9:50:10 PM | message detail
I guess it's the whole 7 Seed that is hurting Zero, eh? If these two were reversed in seeding, perhaps less bracketers would be voting for Luigi and the match would be closer. That's all I can come up with.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/8/2006 9:50:14 PM | message detail
Man, Sonic and Snake in the Final Four would be too awesome for words...I really couldn't be upset with either of them winning that match.

And I suspect Bowser will do better than expected on Leon even if he hasn't boosted one bit...between Leon possibly overperforming on Mega Man (it doesn't HAVE to be Gordon's fault, y'know!) and RE4 being a bit out of people's minds since then, I wouldn't be shocked at Leon faltering.

Although there is that whole "RE4 on PS2" thing to think about...
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*kills self*
Commit it to memory.
charmander6000 | Posted 10/8/2006 9:51:01 PM | message detail
Not much of a gain for Luigi there.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/8/2006 9:51:07 PM | message detail
I'm sorry. I still think it's absolutely crazy for Luigi to be this much stronger due to NSMB. This has to be a sign of Zero weakening.

You can weaken Zero a bit, but unless you want to get absolutely ridiculous with it, this is Luigi increasing from NSMB. Why is that so hard to accept? It's the first 2D Mario platformer in well over a decade.

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Ed Bellis | Posted 10/8/2006 9:51:23 PM | message detail
...the hell is this? Way to defy all previous trends, match! >_>
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Redtooth | Posted 10/8/2006 9:51:42 PM | message detail
52/48 that update! at least Zero isn't keeling over...

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Z1mZum>Redtooth
Nice list, I counted twenty that would be in my top ten - BlondeAfroHero7
Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 9:51:50 PM | message detail
Zero trying to stop the bleeding..interesting.

And I'm taking Luigi over any non-mainstream opponent he gets from now on. Apparently, "He's freakin' Luigi!" works against people like Zero and KOS-MOS, but not mainstream characters like Tifa, Yoshi and Squall.
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Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded.
Luigi vs. Zero - Bracket: Zero - Vote: Zero (25/27)
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/8/2006 9:52:16 PM | message detail
Any matches that defy previous trends and stats are automatically awesome by default, and this is coming from someone who prefers Zero to Luigi by TONS.
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BDawg | Posted 10/8/2006 9:52:43 PM | message detail
Well I hope this is really Luigi cause it's about time he stopped being such a little punk and showed at least some of his brother's strength.
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Should I start running now?
Heroic Mario | Posted 10/8/2006 9:52:46 PM | message detail
but not mainstream characters like Tifa, Yoshi and Squall.

Luigi could hang with all of them today without a problem though.

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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/8/2006 9:52:47 PM | message detail
No. Luigi increased maybe 0.1% from NSMB. This is still the same old Luigi everyone knows and loves or possibly doesn't love.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/8/2006 9:52:55 PM | message detail
Do you think Yoshi boosted due to SM64? I mean, he has almost the exact same role as Luigi in NSMB. Only available at the end after doing something you wouldn't think of (cannon Vs. code), and doesn't really do anything.
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Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII.
HaRRicH | Posted 10/8/2006 9:53:03 PM | message detail
By the way guys, assuming Kirby and Zero are both accurate last year and constant, if Luigi stays above 54.13% then he is looking prime for beating Kirby next round. Considering Kirby might be over-rated (or Zero could still be under-rated...heh), that could look even better for Luigi. However, if Zero dropped since last year then that only hurts Luigi. Also keep in mind that there's still plenty of votes to come, and who knows what to expect right now...

...but next round will be fun,
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Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest.
It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
Ed Bellis | Posted 10/8/2006 9:53:20 PM | message detail
Any matches that defy previous trends and stats are automatically awesome by default, and this is coming from someone who prefers Zero to Luigi by TONS.

Oh, I agree. I just... didn't see this one coming. At all. Which makes that much more awesome!

(Now that I'll lose three points from this one match, the universe can rest a little easier. This was far too long for me to have a perfect.)
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/8/2006 9:53:23 PM | message detail
I really am starting to think the long awaited Crono drop will happen this year. I won't be surprised in the least if Crono can't even get close to 70% on Falcon.
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Demyx > Axel
Z1mZum owned me in the Guru Contest with his mad skills!
Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 9:54:03 PM | message detail
He probably could, but I wouldn't take any of them over him.

Yeah, Luigi being strong is just that wrong to me!
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Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded.
Luigi vs. Zero - Bracket: Zero - Vote: Zero (25/27)
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/8/2006 9:54:03 PM | message detail
From Karma Hunter Posted 10/9/2006 12:52:16 AM
Any matches that defy previous trends and stats are automatically awesome by default, and this is coming from someone who prefers Zero to Luigi by TONS.

Agree'd. In my favourite bracket, Zero downs Carmen Sandiego in the finals, but odd matches like this are too awesome to worry about.

Sure my bracket is more or less ****ed, but this is exciting.

TuRtLe
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 9:54:14 PM | message detail
*him over any of them
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Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded.
Luigi vs. Zero - Bracket: Zero - Vote: Zero (25/27)
Heroic Mario | Posted 10/8/2006 9:54:34 PM | message detail
Do you think Yoshi boosted due to SM64? I mean, he has almost the exact same role as Luigi in NSMB. Only available at the end after doing something you wouldn't think of (cannon Vs. code), and doesn't really do anything.

Huh? Are you talking about in SM64DS? If so, yes, I would expect Yoshi to benefit from that. If you're talking about Yoshi's *minor* appearance at the end of Super Mario 64 where he gives you 99 lives, then no. >>

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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/8/2006 9:54:40 PM | message detail
No. Luigi increased maybe 0.1% from NSMB. This is still the same old Luigi everyone knows and loves or possibly doesn't love.

I agree with that. Luigi's strength must have been hidden last year, or he's just receiving a second Nintendo boost.

Or, it could be Zero becoming Magus. Either or.
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Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII.
BDawg | Posted 10/8/2006 9:54:43 PM | message detail
Falcon gets all his strength from saying "show ya moves".
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Should I start running now?
Janus5000 | Posted 10/8/2006 9:54:56 PM | message detail
Falcon breaking 30% on Crono would be awesome.
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VinnieMac | Posted 10/8/2006 9:55:07 PM | message detail
Since it was mentioned earlier, how are vote totals looking right now?
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Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 10/8/2006 9:55:11 PM | message detail
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/8/2006 9:55:48 PM | message detail
What happened in that update?

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Do you really need me to bring out the stats?- Azp2k32 on why Zero would double Luigi
charmander6000 | Posted 10/8/2006 9:55:52 PM | message detail
O_O

That was a big gain.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/8/2006 9:55:52 PM | message detail
If you're talking about Yoshi's *minor* appearance at the end of Super Mario 64 where he gives you 99 lives, then no. >>

Bingo.
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Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII.
Cavalier Lowen | Posted 10/8/2006 9:55:53 PM | message detail
Well that's wierd. 52% on one update for Luigi to 59% on the next.
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Z1mZum owned me in the guru contest (by two points!). Damn you Z1mZum!
DpObliVion | Posted 10/8/2006 9:55:56 PM | message detail
Luigi just shut Zero up on that update.

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SecksThaNemesis | Posted 10/8/2006 9:56:09 PM | message detail
What the **** was that? o.0
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/8/2006 9:56:22 PM | message detail
Luigi increased his votes some and Zero dropped off some. It resulted in a spectacular 58.96% update!!

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Redtooth | Posted 10/8/2006 9:56:37 PM | message detail
Falcon breaking 30% on Crono would be awesome.

Falcon is Nintendo, and in SSB/M. I wouldn't be too surprised if he could escape the triple and push 30%.

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Z1mZum>Redtooth
Nice list, I counted twenty that would be in my top ten - BlondeAfroHero7
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/8/2006 9:56:48 PM | message detail
*checks*

Luigi gained 52 from the last update, Zero dropped 55.

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Do you really need me to bring out the stats?- Azp2k32 on why Zero would double Luigi
DpObliVion | Posted 10/8/2006 9:56:56 PM | message detail
!!

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Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko
NEW YORK METS: 2006 NL EASTERN DIVISION CHAMPS
Cavalier Lowen | Posted 10/8/2006 9:57:32 PM | message detail
Maybe a vote stuffer is just randomly going around giving 50 votes to each character at different times? lol.
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goku z | Posted 10/8/2006 9:57:34 PM | message detail
Assuming constant Zero and Luigi...Luigi is doing nearly as well as Mega Man. LUIGI FOR TEH MAin brACKEt WIN!
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/8/2006 9:57:38 PM | message detail
Bingo.

So you want to compare a completely insignificant appearance at the end of the game where you do not even play as Yoshi over a widely known code that you enter on a save file to play as Luigi. And then ignoring the fact that it's the next big Mario game to release. That's just going to do nothing for Luigi?

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EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 10/8/2006 9:58:22 PM | message detail

And I'm taking Luigi over any non-mainstream opponent he gets from now on. Apparently, "He's freakin' Luigi!" works against people like Zero and KOS-MOS, but not mainstream characters like Tifa, Yoshi and Squall.


That's actually why I took Luigi > Zero. I figured they were so close in the stats that it didn't even matter, and went with "Well it's Luigi, if he's not able to beat Zero, not many people should be able to." and just went with my gut. I don't know why so many people are shocked and floored right now though. Zero will probably bring the % down some during the day, and Zero was only projected to win with 51%. 51% is hardly a lock.

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I'm so hardcore.
FastFalcon05 | Posted 10/8/2006 9:58:39 PM | message detail
Is it inapplicable to say hindsight is 20/20 here? Or are we not at that stage just yet?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/8/2006 9:58:48 PM | message detail
Yoshi had Super Mario 64 DS, yet he seemed to benefit perhaps the least out of any Nintendo character in 2005. I ain't sold on NSMB boosting Luigi significantly for that reason alone.
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*kills self*
Commit it to memory.