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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 381

Yesmar | Posted 10/8/2006 7:04:39 PM | message detail
Extreme Scenarios: Luigi Vs. Zero

Scenario 1:


Luigi with 54.67%

There's really not much that can be wrong with Luigi's ranking last year, so for anything extreme to happen it would have to be due to a boost from NSMB, his first original platformer in ages. Plus, if Mario was able to SFF him, Luigi might be able to as well. Combine this with a huge seed advantage and random variation and you get the above result.

Scenario 2:

Zero with 58.37%

On the other hand, there are reasons to believe that there are things wrong with Zero's ranking last year. Zero went from being a potential Noble Nine breaker to struggling to get close to 40% on Mario. Mega Man himself has served as a Nintendo proxy in SFF matches, so maybe the same is true for Zero. If that's the case, Zero might be popular enough that Luigi won't even get close enough to SFF him. Also, there's the possibility that Luigi overperformed due to Tifa not getting a full body shot in their match. If all these factors add up enough to separate the two by any substantial amount, Zero might be able to do some SFFing of his own.
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MnMZero | Posted 10/8/2006 7:09:52 PM | message detail
*prepares for match*
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Proud Supporter of Zero
TehMissingLink | Posted 10/8/2006 7:10:33 PM | message detail
Luigi going to be kicking some ass in two hours!!

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Draco1214 | Posted 10/8/2006 7:11:01 PM | message detail
I have a feeling Zero's going to impress tomorrow, to the point where people are going to start calling him a lock against Kirby.
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Character Battle V Score - 25/26 points
Current Prediction - Kirby vs. The Prince of Persia
Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/8/2006 7:13:46 PM | message detail
Luigi going to be kicking some ass in two hours!!

The only ass Luigi will be kicking is his own after Zero hands it to him.


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MnMZero | Posted 10/8/2006 7:14:26 PM | message detail
Luigi going to be kicking some ass in two hours!!

"If that's your decision.... prepare yourself!!!"

*attacks with Z-saber*
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Proud Supporter of Zero
Draco1214 | Posted 10/8/2006 7:24:12 PM | message detail
It's funny. By now before a debated match begins, I'd be worried about my pick and I'd be anticipating the match, but with Luigi/Zero...I'm not feeling anything. It's like I don't care about this match. Anyone else feel the same?
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Character Battle V Score - 26/27 points
Current Prediction - Luigi vs. Zero
Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 7:25:53 PM | message detail
I'll probably be more excited if Luigi actually makes it interesting early.
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Kirby vs. The Prince - Bracket: Kirby - Vote: Kirby (24/26)
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/8/2006 7:26:08 PM | message detail
Luigi/Zero is a worst-case scenario match for me. I want Luigi to win more than any of you, and I know he'll lose. However, they're close enough to give me false hope for the upcoming disappointment, despite how much I know Luigi will lose.

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Adept of Aiur | Posted 10/8/2006 7:32:54 PM | message detail
Luigi/Zero is a worst-case scenario match for me. I want Luigi to win more than any of you, and I know he'll lose. However, they're close enough to give me false hope for the upcoming disappointment, despite how much I know Luigi will lose.

Yeah, that.

Only, my hope isn't entirely false. I think Luigi does have a chance, but I've just been less faithful as the time has come.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 7:35:52 PM | message detail
Blast Division: Round 1 - Match 28 – (2)Luigi vs. (7)Zero

Moltar’s Analysis

Luigi
Game/Series Known From: Super Mario
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: 30th (25.24%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: 41st (16.62%) - Adjusted Value: 30th (22.96%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2005: 20th (28.70%)
Seed in 2003: 3
Seed in 2004: 4
Seed in 2005: 2
Lost in 2003 to Squall in Round 2
Lost in 2004 to Yoshi in Round 2
Lost in 2005 to Tifa in Round 2

Mario’s flamboyant brother returns!

Zero
Game/Series Known From: Mega Man X
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: 14th (33.28%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: 10th (28.50%) - Adjusted Value: 11th (31.67%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2005: 18th (29.41%)
Seed in 2003: 7
Seed in 2004: 4
Seed in 2005: 3
Lost in 2003 to Sonic in Round 2
Lost in 2004 to Mega Man in Round 3
Lost in 2005 to Mario in Round 3

Mega Man v 2.343 is back as well.

Another match that is too big for Round 1. Instead, this time its between two Top 20 characters, and not two top 15’s. Who’s going to win? I’ll tell you…

First, look at the 2005 rankings for them. Luigi’s best year and Zero’s worst. It’s hard to see Luigi going from 45% on Yoshi to 47% on Tifa. Yet he did it…With Zero, it’s hard to see him going from 44% on Mega Man to 37% on Mario. So where am I going with this.

Luigi may not be underrated, since it had been a while since we got a good read on him, but Zero? Perhaps he is. It might be just me, but Zero’s numbers on Mario just seem…low. He still ranks above Luigi, but I still think he should be a little higher.

Of course, Luigi has NintendoFAQs and the high ground (er…seed) in his corner, but come on, before 2005, Zero would have been the obvious favorite to win. Luigi should do well, but I don’t think Zero has fallen enough to lose this match. I also don’t think Luigi has gained enough to win. His 2005 number just doesn’t settle with me.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Zero will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Luigi: 46% - Zero: 54%



Ulti’s Analysis

Zero is the Xst favorite in something like a 53-47 win, but everyone already knows that. Though for those who need a reason, Zero's performance on Sonic >>> Tifa's.

That said, 2-7 and NintendoFAQs may very well put Luigi into this match. Whether or not he'll win remains to be seen, but I have faith in Zero pulling this one out. And for the record, I think Luigi is the bigger threat to Zero in this fourpack then Kirby is.

Prediction: Zero with 52.25%



HM’s Analysis

Look at this – two debated matches in one division! Although most people feel this match is clearly in favor of Zero, or at least people are confident in Zero, I’m not so certain that he’s got what it takes to win here. That’s right – I’m going with the upset of Luigi over Zero. There is a pretty clear explanation for why this is the case, too.

There has been much argument surrounding Zero’s value last year in the 2005 stats – some citing that he was underrated due to Mario/Zero SFF – but the reasoning behind it is rather nonsensical. I’m not sure how Mario is supposed to SFF Zero when Mega Man couldn’t even do it. This came up entirely because Zero apparently cannot drop, which in itself is just a lame thought process; characters rise and drop every year without reason.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 7:36:08 PM | message detail
So without Zero being underrated, this match looks very good for Luigi. Right now, Zero is projected to win this match with 51.20%. That alone is enough to heavily consider Luigi in this match-up, especially when “NintendoFAQs” in the plumber’s corner, but there’s even more in his favor! New Super Mario Bros. recently released on the Nintendo DS in May. As it turns out, Luigi was actually playable in the game – and that should be common knowledge by now. Sure, his role was nothing out of the ordinary, but the fact that you could play as him in single player is bound to give him a nice boost, along with the fact that another new Mario game released.

Even more interesting is the jump in DS ownership since last year. Before the 2005 contest, DS ownership was at 33%; before the 2006 contest, DS ownership was at an incredible 55%. It’s pretty clear that the DS Lite, along with the appealing DS library, convinced a number of gamers to jump to Nintendo’s hottest new system. And even better, New Super Mario Bros. has become an instant hit since releasing in may by selling over 4 million copies worldwide and over 1 million copies in America. Its presence should be clearly felt here as it’s the latest Mario game out. There’s also some slight benefit of this site heavily shifting its preference toward Wii, which helps out Luigi more than Zero easily.

I think Luigi heads into this match with a lot in his corner and a lot of reason to take home a victory. Some doubt Luigi’s strength last year while others think Zero’s impressive contest history is enough to secure him a win – but I think both are foolish to put faith in. In my bracket, I originally had Luigi until I was convinced that Zero’s impressive history – keyword – was going to give him enough to win. I have since wised up. This match is certainly not out of his reach, and he’s clearly the favorite heading in, but I’m willing to put my Crew points on the line for this one. GO LUIGI!

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: Zero

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: Luigi – 51.2% ; Zero – 48.8%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: Luigi



Yoblazer’s Analysis

Here's our third of three highly disputed first round matches. Before the contest started, many Board 8ers were banking on the Luigi upset because they perceived that Nintendo would be even stronger than year than they were in 2005. While I was one of the proponents of this theory, so far, that doesn't necessarily seem to be the case. It may be a case of weird match-ups (Samus) or a big KH/Square boost (Yoshi, Ganondorf), but Nintendo hasn't really lived up to my lofty expectations through the contest's first four weeks.

If Riku can keep it very respectable with Yoshi and Vincent can beat Ganon, I really don't see much hope for Luigi here. Obviously, Zero isn't Square, but he's still one of the most proven upper midcard guys we have. I don't care if it was a few years ago; hitting the mid and upper 40s on Mega Man and Sonic is quite a feat, and it's one I don't see Luigi equaling anytime soon. Really, this guy was so good in every one of his matches pre-Mario, and had he done like 2% better against the Italian tank, this wouldn't be debated at all. Considering 2K5 Mario was a freak, I think it's only fair to give Zero the benefit of the doubt at least once before calling him an overrated fraud. He's certainly earned it.

I think Luigi may be strong enough to make this closer than his match against Tifa, but I can't see him giving his uber badass opponent a scare.

My prediction: Zero def. Luigi (53-47)
Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 7:36:57 PM | message detail
Lopen’s Analysis

Alright, let's face it: Had this match taken place last year, there wouldn't be any debate at all. None. Zero would be the huge favorite, and with good reason. Look at what Zero has done over the years: 48% on Sonic, 44% on Mega Man, resounding victories over solid mid-carders like Tommy Vercetti and Scorpion. What had Luigi done? Smashed fodder, got "IT'S OVER"ed by Squall, got kicked in the face by Yoshi. Nothing near what Zero did.

Last year, Luigi looked better, much better. He thrashed KOS-MOS and put up a decent little struggle against Tifa, who did alright against Sonic. (but not nearly as well as Zero did) But did he look better than Zero? That's debatable. Lloyd Irving, his second victim, is probably only high fodder… but Ryu Hayabusa is a solid mid-carder that'd probably beat KOS-MOS with relative ease. And 37% on Mario isn't that bad considering Mario's unfound stash of performance enhancing mushrooms he used last year.

So, despite Luigi looking to be a threat to Zero last year according to those "X-Stats", I'm just not feeling the upset potential. Now, Kirby, on the other hand… looked better than Zero last year… ho ho ho… *ahem*. Oh, and, you've gotta believe that any SFF in this match-up goes to Zero, considering Mega Man himself couldn't even pull any on him… whereas Mega Man destroyed Yoshi with it. I mean, I had a little doubt that Mega Man and Zero were Mario characters before, but Yoshi still managing to beat Riku this year makes me think it's probably the case. And of course, that opens the gates to Mario/Zero SFF! Yeeaahh!

Lopen's Prediction: Zero with 56.75%



KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

LUIGI

"Marioooooooooooo!"

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 30th Place [24.43%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 30th Place [22.96%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 21st Place [28.70%]

Donkey Kong is Nintendo's biggest choker, but he's far from their biggest disappointment. No, that 'honor' goes to Luigi, a character that has never made it past the second round despite often *very* favorable seeding, and only recently has made his claim to be a legitimate contender in these things. Gone are the days of perennial midcardership, being doomed to being blown out worse than Jill Valentine and embarrassed by Yoshi!

...or so we hope. WOO LUIGI

ZERO

"I will never die."

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 14th Place [33.28%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 11th Place [33.96%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 19th Place [29.41%]

The original Noble Nine breaker (well, the one who hasn't turned out to be vastly overrated) is back again, and while not given very favorable seeding, would historically be the vast favorite to take this fourpack.

...how different NintendoFAQs makes things. Today Zero is looking to regain some of that glory that was tarnished when Mario blew past him a little *too* easily in last year's Sweet Sixteen. I say he'll get it! Um yeah WOO ZERO

Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

Luigi: New Super Mario Brothers (DS)

Zero: Mega Man ZX (DS)

Upcoming Releases

Luigi: Super Smash Brothers Brawl (WII)

Zero: N/A

At the time of writing, I have not seen the results of Vincent/Ganondorf. So keep in mind that this analysis will likely sound completely laughable in light of those results.

Anywho, I'm not really scared for Zero in this matchup, Hayabusa or no. I'm all statted out from Ganon/Vince, so I'll just say this -- I can't see GameFAQs preferring Luigi to Zero.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 7:37:15 PM | message detail
Although if Luigi does win here, I'll consider it really bad for Mega Man in his inevitable match against Snake. The MM series will really have had to lost a step for Zero to falter here.

Karma Hunter's Vote: Zero. Because beam sabers > vacuum cleaners

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Zero with 54.6%.

Random picks FTW? I hope I'm not on a losing streak by the time I get back. :(

Upset Potential: 35%

UPSET ALERT UPSET ALERT UPSET ALERT


I'm not so arrogant as to not see the stat upset in all this. But I just can't believe it. Still...

Upset Prediction: Luigi with 52.38%



Guest’s Analysis - Draco1214

Past Contest Performances (credit goes to MMXCalibur’s site):

(2) Luigi
Summer 2003:
Northern Round 1 --- Defeated (14) Ratchet, 70550 [74.54%] - 24099 [25.46%]
Northern Quarterfinal --- Lost to (6) Squall, 46232 [39.79%] - 69958 [60.21%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 30th Place [24.43%]

Summer 2004:
Hyrule Round 1 --- Defeated (13) Pac Man, 51008 [67.73%] - 24299 [32.27%]
Hyrule Quarterfinal --- Lost to (5) Yoshi, 34382 [45.52%] - 41151 [54.48%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 30th Place [22.96%]*
*was behind Link/Yoshi SFF in 2004

Summer 2005:
Chaos Round 1 --- Defeated (7) KOS-MOS, 70232 [66.00%] - 36187 [34.00%]
Chaos Semifinals --- Lost to (3) Tifa, 47705 [46.64%] - 54588 [52.26%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 21st Place [28.70%]

(7) Zero
Summer 2003:
Eastern Round 1 --- Defeated (10) Scorpion, 70885 [62.84%] – 41916 [37.16%]
Eastern Quarterfinal --- Lost to (2) Sonic the Hedgehog, 47261 [47.66%] – 51903 [52.34%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 14th Place [33.28%]

Summer 2004:
20XX Round 1 --- Defeated (13) Protoman, 58317 [71.72%] - 22993 [28.28%]
20XX Quarterfinal --- Defeated (5) Tommy Vercetti, 49875 [61.84%] - 30775 [38.16%]
20XX Semifinal --- Lost to (1) Mega Man, 36800 [43.99%] - 46849 [56.01%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 11th Place [33.96%]

Summer 2005:
Mushroom Round 1 --- Defeated (6) Ryu Hayabusa, 57507 [63.00%] - 33771 [37.00%]
Mushroom Semifinal --- Defeated (2) Lloyd Irving, 65557 [73.25%] - 23938 [26.75%]
Mushroom Final --- Lost to (1) Mario, 39856 [37.14%] - 67452 [62.86%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 19th Place [29.41%]*
*possible Mario/Zero SFF. Likely higher up in the stats.

Looking at their track records only, Zero seems like the obvious choice. After all, Zero’s put up more impressive numbers than Luigi, and against tougher opponents to boot. In 2003, Zero blew away Scorpion before putting up over 47% against Sonic. Luigi, however, was a character people had high expectations for and ended up flopping miserably, failing to break 40% on the “massively hated” Squall Leonhart. In 2004, Zero was expected to get killed by Mega Man thanks to SFF. He responds by not only breaking 40%, but actually outperforming Snake, a noble-niner! In contrast, Luigi finds yet another way to bomb as many people expected him to SFF Yoshi or at least keep it close. In the end, Luigi rolled over and died, letting the lovable green dinosaur score 55% on him.

However, in 2005, Luigi decided that he was tired of his stigma as the forgotten brother of Mario and wanted some of the spotlight. In a match many claimed would be close, Luigi exceeded expectations and nearly doubled KOS-MOS after her new game came out and made her look like fodder in the process. While he did end up losing a somewhat debated match against Tifa, Luigi went out in style, scoring over 47% on the popular FF7 vixen. Zero, on the other hand, looked rather…unimpressive. He did just about expected on Ryu Hayabusa and blew away Lloyd Irving. However it was his third round match that worried many a Zero fan. He was supposed to perform respectably against Mario and he responded by failing to break 40%.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 7:38:19 PM | message detail
And now we have come to this match. Luigi looking so good last year and Zero’s bombing against Mario have made this match a lot more debatable than it really should be, in my opinion. While Luigi has indeed come a long way since his days as a choker, Zero has proven time and time again that he is near-elite material. Despite underperforming against Mario, his match against Hayabusa was certainly within the expectations placed upon him (though he did underperform a tad), and his killing of Lloyd Irving further cements the fact that Zero is a force to be reckoned with. Aside from his one bad match, Zero shows no signs of his strength dropping and remains as much of a force as ever.

Even though Luigi has the Nintendo boost and NSMB on his side, I feel that Zero is just too much for him. In my opinion, for Luigi to win this match, he has to be just around the level of characters such as Ganondorf, Tifa, and Vincent, which is something I cannot see happening. Luigi does have a chance to upset Zero if his match vs. Mario was in fact not a fluke/bad match/whatever but it really doesn’t look all that likely. Zero’s already stronger than Luigi statistically speaking even if you think Mario/Zero is legit. Basically, if Zero was SFF’d at all, he wins comfortably.

So what is Zero fighting for?
1) To defeat Luigi with a comfortable margin.
2) To expose Kirby for the overrated puffball he is.
3) To lose to Sonic…in style.

Draco’s Bracket – Zero
Draco’s Vote – Luigi
Draco’s Prediction – Zero over Luigi with 54.76%



Crew Consensus: HM has Luigi, but everyone else is going for the Zero upset.
wavedash101 | Posted 10/8/2006 7:38:54 PM | message detail
Go HM knock em dead. Pull a Lopen!!!
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MnMZero | Posted 10/8/2006 8:06:06 PM | message detail
You know, I actually thought about Luigi getting some extra strength from bracket support. But then I thought... Zero never gets bracket support! It's expected that he kicks ass without it!
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Aprosenf | Posted 10/8/2006 8:36:33 PM | message detail
It's (nearly) a sweep! Therefore Luigi will be the victor! Congrats, HM!
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/8/2006 8:37:46 PM | message detail
I can't wait to see Zero's prediction percentage if he wins his fourpack.

He had only 54% of the brackets against LLOYD ****ING IRVING
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Character Battle V Score - 26/27 points
Current Prediction - Luigi vs. Zero
Heroic Mario | Posted 10/8/2006 8:37:51 PM | message detail
Better believe that Luigi will win!

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/8/2006 8:38:32 PM | message detail
Since I've been on the Crew, I've turned around the embarrassment that was the Series Contest. The Crew consensus hasn't lost yet.
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Commit it to memory.
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/8/2006 8:40:12 PM | message detail
Don't get cocky, Kay Aitch!

Shut up, Lopen!
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/8/2006 8:47:19 PM | message detail
Fact or Fiction: Luigi/Zero will be closer than Ganondorf/Vincent.
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shadow8021 | Posted 10/8/2006 8:49:28 PM | message detail
Fact
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Character Battle Score: 26/26
Today's Pick: Kirby
cyko | Posted 10/8/2006 8:54:01 PM | message detail
Right now, Zero is projected to win this match with 51.20%. That alone is enough to heavily consider Luigi in this match-up,

wouldn't that alone be enough to heavily consider Zero in this match-up? >_>

seriously, Zero is already higher than Luigi in the x-stats. his match against Mario has been quesioned for SFF (although i believe that it's pretty legit). Nintendo does not appear to be nearly up to the level of domination that it was last year. AND Megaman X collection has come out on all three consoles since the last contest. i don't see any way that Luigi can win. give me Zero all the way!!

Zero with 55-56%

and Kirby with 70.36% of the brackets!!


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Vincent Valentine to win the Blast Division!!
AmazingKirby | Posted 10/8/2006 8:56:53 PM | message detail
Oh, man this crazy. I seriously think Luigi will win, but I chose Zero out of fear anyway. No way Luigi gets 12% less than a freaking palette swap of him.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 8:57:30 PM | message detail
Alright Luigi, time to either completely bomb, or win and job to Kirby.

I'll be satisfied with either result!
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Luigi vs. Zero - Bracket: Zero - Vote: Zero (25/27)
Draco1214 | Posted 10/8/2006 8:57:51 PM | message detail
No way Luigi gets 12% less than a freaking palette swap of him.

That's exactly how Luigi burned a lot of brackets back in 2003.
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Character Battle V Score - 26/27 points
Current Prediction - Luigi vs. Zero
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/8/2006 8:57:52 PM | message detail
Aitch Emm and partystar backing Luigi? I'm getting cocky again--!
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/8/2006 8:58:01 PM | message detail
I expect these topics to explode when Luigi/Zero starts. Explode
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/8/2006 8:58:50 PM | message detail
his match against Mario has been quesioned for SFF (although i believe that it's pretty legit).

It's questioned solely on the basis that Zero dropped a measly 2% from one year to the next. There's nothing there to support Mario/Zero SFF outside of that. If Mega Man cannot even SFF him, I really doubt Mario is suddenly going to be able to.

Nintendo does not appear to be nearly up to the level of domination that it was last year. AND Megaman X collection has come out on all three consoles since the last contest. i don't see any way that Luigi can win. give me Zero all the way!!

That doesn't mean Nintendo characters are going to drop this year. It just means that we aren't going to see a noticeable pure Nintendo domination. Luigi still is going to be very strong this year. Anything Zero is easily countered and demolished by Luigi having New Super Mario Bros. in his corner. He's playable, it sold over a million copies easy, DS ownership increased from 33% to 55% over the year, and it's very well received. LUIGI FOR THE WIN!

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Janus5000 | Posted 10/8/2006 8:59:11 PM | message detail
No way Luigi gets 12% less than a freaking palette swap of him.

So Daisy breaks 70% on herself? >_>
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cyko | Posted 10/8/2006 8:59:24 PM | message detail
so, who wins the board/bracket vote? i'm really not sure. probably Luigi very briefly, i guess.

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i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest.
Vincent Valentine to win the Blast Division!!
Big Bob | Posted 10/8/2006 8:59:34 PM | message detail
Zero will have the early lead thanks to bracket voting, but Luigi will pull ahead shortly after that.
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MnMZero | Posted 10/8/2006 8:59:50 PM | message detail
Mega Man X Collection, Mega Man Zero 4, Maverick Hunter X, and Mega Man ZX will power Zero to victory!
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Proud Supporter of Zero
longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/8/2006 9:00:01 PM | message detail
I've got a bad feeling here....I keep hearing rumors of vote-stuffing about to increase immensely...hmm..
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Janus5000 | Posted 10/8/2006 9:00:19 PM | message detail
Luigi 100% 23
TOTAL VOTES 23

Haha.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 9:00:25 PM | message detail
Luigi 57.85% 70
Zero 42.15% 51
TOTAL VOTES 121

Ouch...
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Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded.
Luigi vs. Zero - Bracket: Zero - Vote: Zero (25/27)
Gaddswell | Posted 10/8/2006 9:00:27 PM | message detail
Luigi 78.57% 11
Zero 21.43% 3
TOTAL VOTES 14
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/8/2006 9:00:33 PM | message detail
Luigi 78.95% 15
Zero 21.05% 4
TOTAL VOTES 19


GO LUIGI!

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2006 9:00:40 PM | message detail
72.24% for Kirby.
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Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded.
Luigi vs. Zero - Bracket: Zero - Vote: Zero (25/27)
charmander6000 | Posted 10/8/2006 9:00:43 PM | message detail
Luigi 65.71% 23
Zero 34.29% 12
TOTAL VOTES 35

Go Luigi!
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"I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush
cyko | Posted 10/8/2006 9:00:44 PM | message detail
i still say that the Mega Man X Colection exposed a lot more new people to Zero than NSMB did for Luigi.

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i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest.
Vincent Valentine to win the Blast Division!!
AmazingKirby | Posted 10/8/2006 9:01:02 PM | message detail
I TOLD YOU SO!

*high fives HM*
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caps
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/8/2006 9:01:06 PM | message detail
Luigi 55.87% 119
Zero 44.13% 94
TOTAL VOTES 213


WHOA. Bad start for the bracket favorite. I'm not feeling good at all...
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*kills self*
Commit it to memory.
NiGhTmArE_0wNs | Posted 10/8/2006 9:01:17 PM | message detail
i think im one of the 5 with 0 XD
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"I'm not fit to help anyone... not my family.. not my friends... nobody."
Zero_Kuribo | Posted 10/8/2006 9:01:27 PM | message detail
I dont like this one bit so far....
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No sig is worthy enough to hold the Awesomeness of Kuribo's Shoe.
*Shoenin_Kakashi's Alt*
Heroic Mario | Posted 10/8/2006 9:01:35 PM | message detail
Luigi 57.97% 280
Zero 42.03% 203
TOTAL VOTES 483


WOO! Hold on strong, Luigi!

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"Master using it and you can have this."
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/160/masterjg3.jpg
charmander6000 | Posted 10/8/2006 9:01:42 PM | message detail
Great, Luigi with the lead.
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"I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush
Cavalier Lowen | Posted 10/8/2006 9:01:49 PM | message detail
Luigi 57.97% 280
Zero 42.03% 203
TOTAL VOTES 483

YES!
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Z1mZum owned me in the guru contest (by two points!). Damn you Z1mZum!