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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/7/2006 8:45:30 AM | message detail
Sonic is so screwed

*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, and thanks to RockMFR for finding the missing ones!
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games (down for now, so here's a new link):
http://transience.paragonsigma.com/top100.txt

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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/7/2006 8:46:49 AM | message detail
Oh yeah, and The Boss > Tifa LOL!
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/7/2006 8:47:40 AM | message detail
Alright, now that Vincent has this match in the bag, time for Zero's turn to shine!
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SmurfFAQs | Posted 10/7/2006 8:47:57 AM | message detail
Knuckles > Squall
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/7/2006 8:48:20 AM | message detail
I wouldn't say its quite in the bag yet. Ganon still has 12 hours to produce some sort of comeback >_>
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/7/2006 9:18:35 AM | message detail
*Bumps since 379 is bout to close*
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/7/2006 10:10:15 AM | message detail
So how bout that Prince of Persia/Kirby tomorrow? Prince is getting 45% >_>
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/7/2006 10:25:37 AM | message detail
What an absurd 500th post
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KingBartz | Posted 10/7/2006 10:25:57 AM | message detail
ya whatever
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SC2k6: 24/25 Today's upset special: Vincent
longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/7/2006 10:28:07 AM | message detail
Aeris > Tifa > Zelda > Samus

>_> <_<

*runs*
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Big Bob | Posted 10/7/2006 10:28:40 AM | message detail
Now THAT's a 500 post I agree with.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/7/2006 10:28:57 AM | message detail
That HM shutdown on that last page was made of win. <_<
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/7/2006 10:30:01 AM | message detail
Totally. A post with a statement like "Ganon is being exposed :O" deserves a shutdown.
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/7/2006 10:30:54 AM | message detail
*wakes up* *sees Vincent winning by more than ever* o.O...I'll give up what I said about it being nearly hopeless for Vincent and take that point! I went to bed figuring Vincent wouldn't pick up the pace with the night vote, but he indeed did. I guess it's because of the Friday night tons of people are staying up until 2 or 3 in the morning... Ganondorf hasn't won a single hour in the poll, and Vincent just had his best hour since the night. I suppose it'll end with around 52% for Vincent.

So...now that Vincent is more than likely winning today, either Luigi or Sub-Zero will win. Why? My Round 1 Curse for character contests. Ever since I started paying attention to them I've missed 2 matches in EVERY round 1 that dealt with characters. I say Luigi winning is the far more likely upset.

...and sudden support for Aeris > Zelda? I'm suddenly feeling better about that, heh. I'm still kinda worried Aeris may have somehow lost fans, as a few people were theorizing. Then again, Sephiroth didn't decrease in popularity since 2K3, and it kinda seems like HE lost fans.

Post-KH2 Tifa > Post KH-Aeris > Pre-KH2 Tifa > Pre-KH Aeris

Well, I was thinking more like... Post-AC Tifa > Post-AC Aeris > Pre-AC Tifa > Pre-AC Aeris, but whatever.

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/7/2006 10:31:50 AM | message detail
lol @ saying Ganon has exposed, because being in the low-to-mid 30's on Base Link is just pitiful, right?

If anything, I'm glad this performance finally shows how strong Ganon is. I mean, he probably wouldn't beat Squall or Bowser (well, I dunno there), but other than those three, it doesn't seem like anyone else can beat him.
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Ganondorf vs. Vincent - Bracket: Ganondorf - Vote: Ganondorf (24/25)
xp1337 | Posted 10/7/2006 10:32:14 AM | message detail
Ganon comeback! Activate the barriers!

lol o wate didnt this happen b4?
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SC2k6 (024/025) Ganon v Vincent
Haste_2 | Posted 10/7/2006 10:34:00 AM | message detail
To make things more clear about my curse...I missed Kairi vs. Claire already, but I need to miss one more match this round. =p

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/7/2006 10:34:53 AM | message detail
If DMC3: SE and stuff really did give Dante a nice boost (not buying it), Dante could very well be a match for the pigman this year. I think post-KH2 Tifa could take him on, too.

After TP though, -dorf will probably be at a level that only Squall could potentially beat -- and by that I mean Squall is going to have to beat Snake this year.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/7/2006 10:35:25 AM | message detail
I would really like to say that Vincent increased a smidged (1% or so) from AC/DoC right now and that he wasn't overrated, but I suppose we'll just have to wait and see until he faces off against Sonic. Despite the loss, which totally kills this contest for me until we get another good match, Ganon did well enough here to avoid all the "Ganon is overrated," "Ganon is going to be exposed," crap here.

Pretty blah match right now, too, unfortunately. Doesn't look like Ganon did too much with the morning vote.

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/7/2006 10:35:37 AM | message detail
Yes! Go Vincent!

Maybe now Squall will finally get the credit he deserves. Barring some strange overperformance by Snake, he's gonna be #10 in the stats, baby!

...Maybe even #9!

Anyway, I'll work on some possible scenarios for this match.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/7/2006 10:37:08 AM | message detail
And when I said "Ganon is going to be exposed," I was referring to his worth as a potential Noble Nine breaker. 52% was about what I was expecting out of Vincent, and this was taking into consideration that the Devil Division wasn't overrated.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/7/2006 10:37:16 AM | message detail
I have Zero and Sub-Zero winning those matches, admittedly.
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Ganondorf vs. Vincent / Bracket: Vincent / Vote: Ganondorf (24/25)
Tomorrow / Bracket: Kirby / Vote: Kirby
Heroic Mario | Posted 10/7/2006 10:37:50 AM | message detail
After TP though, -dorf will probably be at a level that only Squall could potentially beat -- and by that I mean Squall is going to have to beat Snake this year.

Depending on what comes out next year (MGS4 and SSBB aren't going to be out by the next contest), I would wager that TP Ganon should be able to possibly take care of a couple of Noble Nine characters, I think. Now it depends on how high he is now combined with what the other characters get, but Snake still not getting anything for two more years is good for Noble Nine upset purposes!!

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/7/2006 10:38:08 AM | message detail
Oh, damn, forgot Auron. I'd pick Auron over Ganondorf right now, and it has nothing to do with stats (and it shouldn't seeing as how they faced off directly last year). I'm just that confident in KH2 and think that those who argue that FFX being on the PS2 diminishes said boost are fooling themselves.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/7/2006 10:38:54 AM | message detail
And when I said "Ganon is going to be exposed," I was referring to his worth as a potential Noble Nine breaker. 52% was about what I was expecting out of Vincent, and this was taking into consideration that the Devil Division wasn't overrated.

It's still impossible to tell where Vincent lands right now. If he goes 50/50 with Sonic and loses, Ganon's ability to be a Noble Nine breaker is very much there. He wouldn't be strong enough to do it this year, but when Twilight Princess rolls around he's number one on the list to do it.

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/7/2006 10:39:10 AM | message detail
I dunno about Tifa. She didn't really impress me last year, and while KH2 will bring her up, I would think Ganon would win in a close one. Same with Dante.

And yay for post-TP Ganondorf!
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Ganondorf vs. Vincent - Bracket: Ganondorf - Vote: Ganondorf (24/25)
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/7/2006 10:39:27 AM | message detail
Depending on what comes out next year (MGS4 and SSBB aren't going to be out by the next contest), I would wager that TP Ganon should be able to possibly take care of a couple of Noble Nine characters, I think. Now it depends on how high he is now combined with what the other characters get, but Snake still not getting anything for two more years is good for Noble Nine upset purposes!!

Pfft, you're going to have to find a new upset-whipping boy once Snake beats Mega Man, boyo!
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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/7/2006 10:39:33 AM | message detail
...How are full stats going to be made here? Say Mario is eliminated on Day 3 of the royale; how do you place his stat value when he probably got less than 25% of the vote?
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transience | Posted 10/7/2006 10:40:36 AM | message detail
Ganondorf has pulled off the feat of being both overrated and underrated depending on who you talk to. good show, Ganon. I say he's right about where people have pegged him and that Vincent has increased. it's not like Vincent was behind Ganondorf by much in the stats, if at all.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/7/2006 10:40:39 AM | message detail
Pfft, you're going to have to find a new upset-whipping boy once Snake beats Mega Man, boyo!

Haha! I suppose we'll have to see the distance between Ganon and the lowest Noble Nine character. I think we'll see Ganon get a really nice 3 - 5% boost from TP!!

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KingBartz | Posted 10/7/2006 10:41:08 AM | message detail
Well it's bed time(for me). When I wake up in 7 hours I expect the % to be roughly the same.

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SC2k6: 24/25 Today's upset special: Vincent
wavedash101 | Posted 10/7/2006 10:43:38 AM | message detail
I would say Auron benefits the most of the KHII boost. His playability was one of the huge plus factors, and many people were disappointed that there wasnt more Auron. Mind you, this still wont make him elite like Squall or Vin. But all things considered, I believe Auron will benefit the most. We'll see when his match comes round.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/7/2006 10:44:25 AM | message detail
I agree with Auron getting the best deal out of a "KHII" boost.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/7/2006 10:44:57 AM | message detail
Say Ganon is really at 32.83% against Link 2k5. Raise Vincent 1% from his current value (32.6% to 33.6%) and that's about where this match is expected to land around. Of course, if someone expects a larger boost out of DoC/AC that'd change a bit -- they'd also have to think the Devil Division wasn't overrated or anything.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/7/2006 10:45:53 AM | message detail
Mind you, this still wont make him elite like Squall or Vin.

I'm actually leaning toward Auron being stronger than Vincent thanks to KH2, and I'm having a ***** of a time trying to decide between him and Squall. I default to Squall of course because he's much more tested, but pre-KH2 Auron is stronger than pre-KH Squall in my mind...and the potential for him is therefore very big.
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The_Ocelot | Posted 10/7/2006 10:47:55 AM | message detail
Vinecent>Squall>Auron IMO
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/7/2006 10:48:34 AM | message detail
Eh, I'm really iffy on Auron being stronger than Vincent and Squall. I don't think you're going to see that large of a boost for him.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/7/2006 10:50:28 AM | message detail
I dunno...looking at KHF in 2003, the possibility is certainly there. If only Auron had been in 2k2 I could more easily discern if it was just 'influx' or whatever rather than pure game boost.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/7/2006 10:51:37 AM | message detail
Possible scenarios to draw from this match (Ganondorf has 48.36% right now):

Vincent 2006 = Vincent 2005, Ganondorf is at 34.41% on BL, about .8% above his 2005 value.

If Samus 2005 = Mario 2005, Ganondorf is at 34.85% on BL, meaning Vincent's value is 36.04% on BL, meaning he gets 46.79% on 2005 Sonic.

If Ganondorf 2005 = Bowser 2005, Vincent's value is 37.83% on BL, meaning he gets 49.09% on Sonic.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 10/7/2006 10:52:04 AM | message detail
Post-KH 2 Aeris > Post-KH2 Tifa > Post KH-Aeris > Pre-KH2 Tifa > Pre-KH Aeris

Overall: Vincent >= Aeris >= Tifa
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/7/2006 10:52:30 AM | message detail
I'm sure Auron will benefit nicely from KH2, but we shouldn't be seeing anything close to the "KHF" in 2003. That was, for the most part, the result of a Square influx on the site. I think the main person who will benefit from KH2 is Sora, then it just gets lesser and lesser down the line. Auron should get a couple of percentage points worth of boost, maybe a bit higher, but he shouldn't shoot through the roof.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/7/2006 10:53:25 AM | message detail
If Ganondorf 2005 = Bowser 2005, Vincent's value is 37.83% on BL, meaning he gets 49.09% on Sonic.

I could get to like this one!

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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 10/7/2006 10:54:43 AM | message detail
KHF cause the Square influx, silly. In the end it can all be attributed to Kingdom Hearts.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/7/2006 10:54:47 AM | message detail
And I can't see Auron getting quite enough of a boost to make up the difference between him and Squall, and THEN make up the difference Squall gets from KHII as well.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/7/2006 10:55:29 AM | message detail
Tifa is definitely stronger than Aeris, I would think. Unless there is some odd x-stats showing Aeris having the upper hand.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/7/2006 10:55:29 AM | message detail
I meant exposed in the "lol Ganon > Snake what are we smoking" sense.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/7/2006 10:56:53 AM | message detail
KHF cause the Square influx, silly. In the end it can all be attributed to Kingdom Hearts.

But there isn't a "KH2F." Anyone boosting from that game will likely be doing so through their role in it as opposed to it bringing a mass amount of Square fans here to get another voter shift. Auron will gain nicely, more than, say, Aeris will (I would expect a percent at the most for her), but it won't be anything huge. I wouldn't take Auron over Vincent or Squall.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/7/2006 10:57:58 AM | message detail
I meant exposed in the "lol Ganon > Snake what are we smoking" sense.

Well, if Ganon = Bowser in 2005, it's not really anything out of the question. Of course, some think Snake increased this year, but this match doesn't prove that Ganon cannot beat Snake. We have to wait until the Sonic match to determine where these two are.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/7/2006 10:59:27 AM | message detail
Tifa is definitely stronger than Aeris, I would think. Unless there is some odd x-stats showing Aeris having the upper hand.

Tifa 2k5 gets 51.13% on Aeris 2k3. However, there is the possibility that the 2k5 stats are a little inflated (thus bringing Tifa down) and there's also that little theory out there that Cloud overperformed on Sonic a bit (meaning Aeris gets brought up a bit).

Tifa had a more prominent and action-oriented role in KH2, however, which is why I give her the definite nod now.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/7/2006 10:59:42 AM | message detail
I bet Sora dropped after KH2, and gets double by Mega Man. You guys have a tendency to make Sora seem so great and strong and then he completely bombs expectations.
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