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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 379

The Real Truth | Posted 10/7/2006 9:16:51 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter
Posted 10/7/2006 9:10:13 AM
message detail Bowser is above Ganon why? Because of his match against Snake where Snake received his horrible picture?

Picture or no picture, Bowser proved his mettle to me in that match in every way. I'm defaulting to him because, no matter what the circumstances, he is the only competitor to have ever truly endangered the Noble Nine.


Snake also received that same picture against Frog right? The one where he beat Frog by only 2429 votes then went on to get almost 43% on Mega Man?
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/7/2006 9:17:40 AM | message detail
and it's hard to blame them.

Oh yeah, cause Snake didn't have one of the most blatantly obvious pic advantages ever(and he deserved it alright!), not to mention that was probably one of Sora's weaker years, and Snake's best(Even with the bad pics in other rounds) by the time it was all said and done.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 10/7/2006 9:17:46 AM | message detail
Yikes; this isn't exactly how I had wanted to wake up and see poor Ganondorf doing. I still have limited hope, but, it just isn't looking good.
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The Real Truth | Posted 10/7/2006 9:18:15 AM | message detail
Snake also has reason to go up this year.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/7/2006 9:19:28 AM | message detail
I still stand by Bowser > Ganondorf because he still gave Snake a scare, bad picture or not. Ganondorf isn't even making this match interesting. Snake is a whole new league.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/7/2006 9:21:34 AM | message detail
Snake also received that same picture against Frog right?

No, he's never had quite *that* picture again, though you can argue he was still at a considerable disadvantage:

Snake/Frog: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=2&pos=53

Snake/Bowser: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=66

But remember this was a stronger Snake -- 43% on Mario >>> 43% on Mega Man -- and Frog could have fluked for any number of reasons. Not to mention Bowser also holds the biggest blowout on Ryu to date (over Snake, Samus, and Sonic)...
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/7/2006 9:21:48 AM | message detail
Bowser over Ganondorf has been pretty clear to me since their first contest appearances. Course I'm a bit biased to Tha Bowz(points to big Bowser plushie of doom >_>)
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therealmnm | Posted 10/7/2006 9:22:31 AM | message detail
I still don't see why Aeris would be more popular than Tifa... About the same strength maybe, but I don't see Aeris being more popular. And I still think Tifa is the more popular FFVII character. She's with you for nearly the entire game, and she has more things that would bring more casual appeal (b00bs, kicks ass, major part in Cloud's development, etc.) I really don't see what would give Aeris the advantage over Tifa. Equal footing at best.

I put the differences in Aeris's and Tifa's performance on Sonic all on the blue blur. He definitely was stronger than he was in 2k3, so it was expected that he did better on Tifa than Aeris. I'm anxious to see how Vincent does on Sonic...
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/7/2006 9:23:37 AM | message detail
I still don't see why Aeris would be more popular than Tifa

Let me elaborate.

Post-KH2 Tifa > Post KH-Aeris > Pre-KH2 Tifa > Pre-KH Aeris
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KingBartz | Posted 10/7/2006 9:25:19 AM | message detail
What a sight to come home to. Vinny holding his own in the day vote. It's over, Ganon!
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transience | Posted 10/7/2006 9:26:39 AM | message detail
fortunately, Aeris beating Zelda means a common opponent in Samus!

oh wait everyone's gonna antivote samus like they did sephiroth
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/7/2006 9:28:14 AM | message detail
oh wait everyone's gonna antivote samus like they did sephiroth

cept its not the contest final lolz
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therealmnm | Posted 10/7/2006 9:28:41 AM | message detail
I don't see why Aeris's small role in KH would make her that much more popular. She boosted slightly in 2k3, but I would put that on the Square influx more than her being in KH. Put Tifa in 2k3 and she probably does just as well.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/7/2006 9:31:22 AM | message detail
I don't see why Aeris's small role in KH would make her that much more popular.

I really don't see Tifa leaps and bounds over her. Just a simple cameo in KH, especially when looking at the insanity that Cloud/Sephiroth/Squall did, probably gave her a modest little something.

Heck, I'd even wager Tidus' role in KH gave him a tiny increase or so, though we'll never know.
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Who Cares? | Posted 10/7/2006 9:43:15 AM | message detail
oh wait everyone's gonna antivote samus like they did sephiroth

I could totally see Rikku, Tifa, and Aeris/Zelda slightly overperforming on her. Seriously!
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transience | Posted 10/7/2006 9:47:53 AM | message detail
nah, you'd need to get a bandwagon going first. I doubt Samus is the favourite that Sephiroth was either. it could happen with Tifa/Aeris though since they're from the same game. kinda like how Sephiroth might perform slightly better after Cloud lost to Link.

as for Zelda, you never know. I could see Zelda resisting SFF no problem there.
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transience | Posted 10/7/2006 9:49:10 AM | message detail
ya know, Squall/Tidus makes me question how Aeris/Yuna would go.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/7/2006 9:49:24 AM | message detail
Aw man, at this slow pace, Vincent is never going to survive through Ganon's beastly day vote. It's pretty much over now.

Oh wait, it's not last night anymore.
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Yesmar | Posted 10/7/2006 9:49:55 AM | message detail
Why are so many people putting Squall ahead of Vincent now?

I doubt that Squall's role in KH2 is gonna give him more of a boost than Advent Children and Dirge of Cerebus.

There are tons of people who say, "I hated Squall in FFVIII but loved Leon in Kingdom Hearts" and that sentiment is what I think helped give him such a huge boost. Unless he has another large and different role in Kingdom Hearts 2, I doubt he wins that rematch.

In regards to what Kingdom Hearts did in 2003:

A) I think it's more likely that new-school Square characters benefitted HUGELY from a boost in casual voters. It's not like they were the only ones to get big increases that year.

B) Even if you do believe in Kingdom Hearts Factor, it never said that characters boosted because of their roles in Kingdom Hearts alone. Kingdom Hearts Factor, as it was originally defined, was that newcomers saw the characters in Kingdom Hearts and that made them run out and play previous Final Fantasy games with said characters in them. Over time, this has turned into Kingdom Hearts characters getting all of their boosts in 2003 due to their roles in the game alone.

Now, I'm not saying the original Kingdom Hearts didn't give characers boosts somewhat, but I just think what happened in 2003 is a lot more complex than what some people credit it to.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 10/7/2006 9:51:11 AM | message detail
Aw man, at this slow pace, Vincent is never going to survive through Ganon's beastly day vote. It's pretty much over now.

Oh wait, it's not last night anymore.


Yeah, it's sad, isn't it? It's only worth a point, but it does eliminate me from the guru competition. Ah well, life goes on.

Yoshi's still taking down Dante, though, so we don't really have to worry.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/7/2006 9:53:14 AM | message detail
I don't see Aeris/Yuna getting nearly as much SFF as Squall/Tidus. Aeris isn't exactly cool, and Yuna has 2 main character roles. Compared to Squall and Tidus, one of the girls isn't way way cooler than the other. Yuna can even use teh cool gunz, and Aeris is just like..."I spoil."
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transience | Posted 10/7/2006 9:54:08 AM | message detail
didn't stop her from destroying Sora.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/7/2006 9:55:25 AM | message detail
Pfft, Aeris probably was cooler than some 5 year old with a key back then.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/7/2006 9:55:45 AM | message detail
Man, Vincent just gained 100 votes in 15 minutes. This is getting ugly again
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/7/2006 9:56:37 AM | message detail
To be fair, Sora hate in 2k3 was about as high as it ever was...came with the KH hype, much like hate of Tidus with FFX hype. While Sora may have performed like a stud against any other opponent, he was PRIME for the doubling by Aeris.

I don't think Yuna will get completely destroyed...at least, looking at Marle.
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transience | Posted 10/7/2006 9:58:16 AM | message detail
there's a big difference between CT and FF10 though, not to mention that an FF8 lead just smashed the FF10 lead. if FF8 can, I'd think FF7 has a good chance of doing so as well.

I don't believe a CT character has ever been SFFed. I look forward to the BR if Crono wins the male half.
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Aprosenf | Posted 10/7/2006 9:59:06 AM | message detail
After KHII, would any of you take Sora in a rematch with Aeris? I'd probably stick with Aeris, but it would be much closer than it was last time.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/7/2006 10:00:11 AM | message detail
Sora > Aeris? I can understand Squall > Snake hype, but Sora ain't reversing that result. Not quite yet, anyway.
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KingBartz | Posted 10/7/2006 10:04:18 AM | message detail
Vincent is gaining %s again... O_o
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SC2k6: 24/25 Today's upset special: Vincent
transience | Posted 10/7/2006 10:07:40 AM | message detail
the morning vote was Ganondorf's chance to get back in the match. I wouldn't be amazed if he starts bleeding percentage now.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/7/2006 10:08:19 AM | message detail
Meh, too much SFF talk in this topic right now >_>
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 10/7/2006 10:08:58 AM | message detail
Well, I'm no longer perfect. >.<

****ing Ganondorf. Never liked you anyway.

How many perfects fall after this? I guess a good 200 of 'em, at least. Ganon's likely got excellent bracket support, him being the higher seed and Zelda and all.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/7/2006 10:09:42 AM | message detail
Gooper Blooper! I haven't seen this guy since the Tron rallies.
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transience | Posted 10/7/2006 10:10:22 AM | message detail
you're gonna see a lot of board 8 on the leaderboard. I'd say 60% of the perfects fall, however many that is.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/7/2006 10:12:08 AM | message detail
Expect a lot of fedor-talk from me once I get on the leaderboard. =P

...I told you goofballs to pick Vincent! <_<
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/7/2006 10:12:12 AM | message detail
I'll guess 145 and by Luigi/Zero we'll be under 100.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/7/2006 10:14:56 AM | message detail
From BlAcK TuRtLe Posted 10/7/2006 8:48:18 AM #320
I also find it hilarious, that despite everything else happening as we expected it (aside from them going even in the first hour), that it's ZOMG IMPOSSIBLE that Ganon takes the day vote.

LOLOMGWTFXD

People have this huge misconception that Ganon is as good with the day vote as Zelda and Link. Ganon has been in one match where said day vote came into play, and ****ing everyone wins the day vote against CT characters. Useless comparison. Ganon is finally being exposed.

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KingBartz | Posted 10/7/2006 10:16:12 AM | message detail
Vincent didn't win the day vote against Crono...

But yeah, besides that Ulti is teh right.
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SC2k6: 24/25 Today's upset special: Vincent
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 10/7/2006 10:16:35 AM | message detail
Just you wait, the kiddies are just sleeping in on a Saturday >_>
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/7/2006 10:16:56 AM | message detail
and ****ing everyone wins the day vote against CT characters

Even Zidane?!
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 10/7/2006 10:18:45 AM | message detail
Ganon is finally being exposed.

Right, because Vincent is competely slaughtering him.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/7/2006 10:19:30 AM | message detail
Crono actually has a decent day vote, unlike Frog and Magus.


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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/7/2006 10:19:56 AM | message detail
How was Marle's day vote anybody know?
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KingBartz | Posted 10/7/2006 10:20:34 AM | message detail
Marle's was decent
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SC2k6: 24/25 Today's upset special: Vincent
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/7/2006 10:21:10 AM | message detail
Marle actually gained ground with the day vote (percentage-wise) against Aeris, though that was an odd one. I'd expect Marle to be at least stronger than Magus and Frog though by virtue of who she is (like Tingle, it's not that she has a day vote, just a much weaker night vote).
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/7/2006 10:23:20 AM | message detail
I wonder how Magus and Frog would do in a direct matchup...
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ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 10/7/2006 10:23:22 AM | message detail
Haven't seen HM around today..

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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/7/2006 10:24:57 AM | message detail
Ganon is finally being exposed.

Please try to avoid saying stupid ass things.

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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/7/2006 10:25:04 AM | message detail
HM was in the 378 and 377 topics....
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KingBartz | Posted 10/7/2006 10:25:12 AM | message detail
Sonic > Male Bracket
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SC2k6: 24/25 Today's upset special: Vincent