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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 377

BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2006 9:33:13 PM | message detail
It's impossible for CATS to have dropped?

His 2k5 matches can be explained both by the pics, and the fact that his opponents were chumps.

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creativename | Posted 10/5/2006 9:33:32 PM | message detail
I too was going to say that there's no way Sonic gets 85%, but that's been covered...

It seems likely Sonic will get 80%. I'd guess 81% now, give or take a point.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2006 9:34:43 PM | message detail
Nevermind that 85% thing.

I see now that that 81% update was a fluke.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2006 9:34:56 PM | message detail
That's ... crazy. CATS being below 15% on BL?

See, you had to be all pessimistic and put the blame on CATS. Well, I got little song for that kinda talk, and it goes like this:

If you're strong, you can fly,
you can reach the other side
of the bracket.
It's alright, take a chance,
'cause there is no circumstance
that you can't handle (when voters use their minds)

SONIC BOOST, SONIC BOOST, SONIC BOOST (Crono
keeps you runnin' faster)
SONIC BOOST, SONIC BOOST, SONIC BOOST (save the
contest from disaster)

SONIC BOOST, SONIC BOOST, SONIC BOOST (winning through a poll in motion)
SONIC BOOST, SONIC BOOST, SONIC BOOST (take it all the way -- to the finals!)
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Ed Bellis | Posted 10/5/2006 9:42:27 PM | message detail
I might have missed it among pages of stats topics, but why exactly are people all of a sudden claiming that Sonic has a shot at Crono? Where exactly does this hypothetical boost come from? Or is it just that Crono may have gotten weaker?
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/5/2006 9:42:31 PM | message detail
His 2k5 matches can be explained both by the pics, and the fact that his opponents were chumps.

You did not just go there! >_<
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Ed Bellis | Posted 10/5/2006 9:42:42 PM | message detail
...oh, pfft. That explains it !!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/5/2006 9:43:23 PM | message detail
Pessimism is my middle name.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 10/5/2006 9:43:25 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=967
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2006 9:43:33 PM | message detail
I might have missed it among pages of stats topics, but why exactly are people all of a sudden claiming that Sonic has a shot at Crono? Where exactly does this hypothetical boost come from? Or is it just that Crono may have gotten weaker?

Sonic and Crono are close enough so that yearly variation could change the results of that match.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/5/2006 9:44:07 PM | message detail
I might have missed it among pages of stats topics, but why exactly are people all of a sudden claiming that Sonic has a shot at Crono? Where exactly does this hypothetical boost come from? Or is it just that Crono may have gotten weaker?

Sonic almost beat Mega Man, and Mega Man almost beat Crono.

It's the same reasoning people used for Sonic over Cloud in 2k3, since he almost beat Cloud, and Samus was really close to Sephiroth, and Sephiroth looked stronger than Cloud. Sonic almost did it back then, too!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2006 9:44:28 PM | message detail
So you're saying that Ansem and Master Chief aren't chumps?

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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/5/2006 9:44:32 PM | message detail
That acctually was a pretty good rendition of Sonic Boom acctually <_<
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/5/2006 9:45:12 PM | message detail
I might have missed it among pages of stats topics, but why exactly are people all of a sudden claiming that Sonic has a shot at Crono? Where exactly does this hypothetical boost come from? Or is it just that Crono may have gotten weaker?

There has always been a few people around here that chose Sonic to win the male bracket. Myself included.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/5/2006 9:45:13 PM | message detail
So you're saying that Ansem and Master Chief aren't chumps?

Oh, I thought you were talking about Ganon.

Carry on!!
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transience | Posted 10/5/2006 9:45:37 PM | message detail
as we get later into the night, CATS should theoretically do better. I wouldn't be amazed if the percentage drops a little bit and then rises again come the morning. remember that the old matches, including Ansem/CATS, were at 1am/3am.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2006 9:45:59 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1362

Uhhhh

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NewLib | Posted 10/5/2006 9:46:24 PM | message detail
Sonic at no time "almost" beat Cloud.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2006 9:47:26 PM | message detail
That was his point, though he sort of mucked up the explanation (and thus the sarcasm). Also, I don't think we can *quite* compare Mario's fluke victory against Cloud followed up with KHF to this...
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/5/2006 9:47:41 PM | message detail
Indeed. That was just me cleverly implying that Sonic stands about as much of a chance at beating Crono as he did at beating Cloud back in 2k3!!
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transience | Posted 10/5/2006 9:48:30 PM | message detail
KH's comment about Sonic being the most loved character got me thinking.. I think it's Mega Man. Mega Man's best percentage vs. Link by far was the early vote until he collapsed. cn's updater seems to start ten minutes into the match though, so it's hard to tell. Mega Man definitely lost a ton of percentage when the daytime came though and he won it decisively over Sonic.
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creativename | Posted 10/5/2006 9:51:39 PM | message detail
Sonic definitely has some chance to beat Crono. The whole Vincent/Ganon/Sonic/Crono thing is funky though, even if it goes according to expectations.

One positive for CATS here is that since it looks like his massive board vote has lost its potency, we won't see the quite the swings as in his past matches; though Sonic will still rip him apart in the day.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 10/5/2006 10:04:28 PM | message detail
Hrm... that's what I figured, but it just seems so counterintuitive, given how both characters' contest histories, even taking fluctuation into account. (Then again, I have Snake over Mega Man - but at least he's got a solid, substantive, provable boost! >_>)
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2006 10:07:23 PM | message detail
Quickly!

Prediction precentages for the rest of this division!

Ganon/Vincent will be close to 50/50, but I think Ganon will have a little higher support due to Zelda domination in the BSE.

Kirby/PoP wil have at least 75% for Kirby, maybe more

Luigi/Zero will have at least 60% picking Luigi.
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2006 10:09:37 PM | message detail
I don't really want to think that far ahead...Ganon gets close to 60% of the brackets, maybe more -- he's the higher seed AND he's Zelda. Um, 70-80% for Kirby, 58% for Luigi...yeah I'm done.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/5/2006 10:11:22 PM | message detail
Just curious, but I'll point this out...


Against Aeris: 30.22%, 34,779 votes.
Against Mega Man: 30.13%, 35,340 votes.


...yet, does anybody else feel dirty about wanting to take Axel over Marle?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2006 10:11:38 PM | message detail
I can't wait until Ganon/Vincent though. Weekend match to boot.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2006 10:12:37 PM | message detail
I would have taken Marle over Axel without thinking if that had been a match in the bracket. Yet I'd have been SO happy with Axel beating her out...
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Ed Bellis | Posted 10/5/2006 10:13:25 PM | message detail
I'd be happy with nigh anyone beating Marle.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/5/2006 10:13:30 PM | message detail
Don't forget about his killer successes from last year, too -- runner-up and over-performed in the Villain Contest as well as matching and outdoing most people's expectations/predictions in the Summer Contest. Add to it the LoZ series winning this year and the releases of LoZ:TP/Wii coming soon, and I bet Ganon has over two thirds of the brackets against Vincent.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/5/2006 10:14:51 PM | message detail
So do we still think Marle would beat Axel, then? 'Cuz if so, that would mean either Marle was SFF'd pretty good, Mega Man dropped alot, or Marle would rSFF Axel to victory.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/5/2006 10:15:37 PM | message detail
From BlAcK TuRtLe Posted 10/6/2006 1:11:38 AM #427
I can't wait until Ganon/Vincent though. Weekend match to boot.

TuRtLe


Weekend might actually favor the Square character.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2006 10:19:15 PM | message detail
I'd think Marle could have suffered a touch of the ol' SFF, but Axel impressed me enough against Mega Man to make me change my ways there. I don't see the massive fall for Mega Man...unless he does something like fail to outperform Bowser on Ryu, I'll hold to that.

And I always assumed the weekend would favor the Nintendo character...the weekend seems to bring in more votes, and I believed the Nintendo boost was just a result of newer Ninty-leaning voters coming here in the first place. Of course, if Vincent wins I think it'll be by a comfortable enough margin so that it doesn't matter.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/5/2006 10:21:11 PM | message detail
Most kids are in school on weekdays, hence the ridiculous after-school votes for a lot of Nintendo and KH characters. I'd like to think this weakens on the weekend. Starcraft did pull out that sick win on WW on Saturday night. Any other day and WW probably wins.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/5/2006 10:23:12 PM | message detail
Weekend might actually favor the Square character.

Err, if I had to guess, I would sooner think the weekend favors the Nintendo character. I really don't think you're going to see any notable favor anyway though.

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/5/2006 10:25:59 PM | message detail
Yeah, I would only consider the favor going to whichever character had a bigger online fanbase worth noting (like Blizzard, for example). I'm not going to worry what day of the week Ganon/Vincent lands on.
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transience | Posted 10/5/2006 10:27:26 PM | message detail
eek, 85% update.

I don't think the day of the week matters. it's just more visible because it comes all at once with that afterschool vote. it's not like only Nintendo fans visit the site on weekdays.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/5/2006 10:31:07 PM | message detail
I dont see the difference between a weekend vote or a weekday one really...
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 10/5/2006 10:37:49 PM | message detail
Well, Yoshi is the cookie cutter pick going by the Guru and BOP, even if most people would change to Dante now if they had the chance.

I agree that most would change after Dante/Ryu and Yoshi/Riku, but in light of Mega Man/Axel, I would suspect a good number of those Yoshi backers are feeling slightly less concerned. Dante stole a lot of support with his win over Ryu, but I think Axel won some of it back.
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rpgm2newb | Posted 10/5/2006 10:44:27 PM | message detail
The weekend could be somewhat of a factor, because most kids/teenagers are more likely to play videogames on a Saturday than during the week, and then they get stuck on a level or something, so they come check out GameFAQs.

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transience | Posted 10/5/2006 10:48:59 PM | message detail
I don't really feel much different about Yoshi after seeing Axel in action. to me, it's kind of like saying that Rikku impressing against Ryu means that Yuna is stronger than we thought. they might be from the same game, but they aren't really attached in any other way. we have no way of knowing how much KH2 did for Riku right now.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/5/2006 10:57:52 PM | message detail
The weekend could be somewhat of a factor, because most kids/teenagers are more likely to play videogames on a Saturday than during the week, and then they get stuck on a level or something, so they come check out GameFAQs.


I believe we've established that already.


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rpgm2newb | Posted 10/5/2006 11:00:05 PM | message detail
I believe we've established that already.

I figured someone probably already did, but I didn't really feel like reading through 400+ posts.

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greatone10 | Posted 10/5/2006 11:00:22 PM | message detail
I have Alyx Vance < Lara Croft < Chun-Li < Yuna < Zelda < Samus < Crono

Heh, if anyone ever deserved it, it's Alyx.
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Janus5000 | Posted 10/5/2006 11:06:13 PM | message detail
Well, technically Phoenix deserves it most for letting the universe be destroyed.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2006 11:07:14 PM | message detail
From UltimaterializerX Posted 10/6/2006 1:21:11 AM
Most kids are in school on weekdays, hence the ridiculous after-school votes for a lot of Nintendo and KH characters. I'd like to think this weakens on the weekend. Starcraft did pull out that sick win on WW on Saturday night. Any other day and WW probably wins.

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I don't understand what you're saying. All the voters in the "after-school" vote will still be voting Nintendo or other casuals, except instead of being all at one time it will be balanced throughout the day on a weekend.

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greatone10 | Posted 10/5/2006 11:07:30 PM | message detail
Yeah, but Phoenix never had a hope of saving the old universe though. He was impressive just by not getting 60-40'd.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/5/2006 11:08:52 PM | message detail
nice job Sonic!

80% here we come
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Ngamer64 | Posted 10/5/2006 11:12:38 PM | message detail
Actually, the BOP and the Gurus disagree on one matchup... one that effects the Ultimate Loser chain, in fact. The Guru bracket numbers go...

Yoshi - 63
Dante - 71 (52.99%)

Which means that while the BOP UL is Ryu H, the Guru UL would be...

*dramatic pause*

Riku!

Surely that would be the strongest 'ultimate loser' in history, aye?

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transience | Posted 10/5/2006 11:15:23 PM | message detail
the guru page lies, then! Dante is not a risky pick!
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