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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 377

therealmnm | Posted 10/5/2006 7:40:10 PM | message detail
Well yeah... not factoring in KH2/SSBB boosts for either... I'm just saying I don't expect Squall to do worse than Zelda would.
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Kyle Bowen | Posted 10/5/2006 8:08:44 PM | message detail
and yeah, I think Snake beats Squall comfortably, like 55-45. but I won't rule out the possibility of an upset.

The way you have predicting things lately, Squall wins with 60%!

I kid.

I expected Squall to get 45% BEFORE I knew about the KH boost.

Now, I suppose 45% is the floor.


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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2006 8:10:31 PM | message detail
I can see Squall coming close to Bowser's performance on Snake, but not beating it.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2006 8:14:59 PM | message detail
I can see Squall coming close to Bowser's performance on Snake, but not beating it.

So you could see Squall coming close enough that the match could literally go the other way if you held it on a different day...but not actually winning? -_-

I expected Squall to get 45% BEFORE I knew about the KH boost.

Now, I suppose 45% is the floor.


Now THAT'S arguing from bias!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/5/2006 8:16:34 PM | message detail
From Super Luigi Posted 10/5/2006 9:25:13 PM #266
Oh please. If this was Snake taking on Axel today, and the same results were unfolding, some of you would start speculating on why Snake will lose to a non noble nine character this year. Blah blah blah.

Eh I doubt it. I'm an Axel fanboy, so I'd be happy regardless. Snake being MM would be pretty sweet though.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/5/2006 8:18:20 PM | message detail
I'd love to see a Squall/Snake match with the seeding as 1/2 in Squall's favor. If anything, bracket voting and SSBB trailer will 'save' Snake from Squall should the match actually be close.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2006 8:19:35 PM | message detail
Snake and Mega Man being the same person WOULD be pretty damn sweet!

On another note, I'm pretty sure Snake would be killing Axel more than this. Yes, even if he loses to Mega Man worse than ever this year.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/5/2006 8:26:35 PM | message detail
So you could see Squall coming close enough that the match could literally go the other way if you held it on a different day...but not actually winning? -_-

You know, that doesn't necessarily work. If, on the best day possible for Squall, he could get 49.6%, he'd just lose worse on any other day.

Also: Axel strength = KH2 boost = stronger Sora = strong Tingle = Zelda boost = Ganon over Sonic?

Believe.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/5/2006 8:28:20 PM | message detail
Blast Division: Round 1 - Match 25 – (1)Sonic vs. (8)CATS

Moltar’s Analysis

Sonic
Game/Series Known From: Sonic
Extrapolated Rank in 2002: 5th (41.05%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: 10th (34.92%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: 7th (33.56%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2005: 7th (35.28%)
Seed in 2002: 1
Seed in 2003: 2
Seed in 2004: 1
Seed in 2005: 1
Lost in 2002 to Samus in Round 3
Lost in 2003 to Cloud in the Elite 8
Lost in 2004 to Samus in the Elite 8
Lost in 2005 to Mega Man in the Elite 8

That Blue Hedgehog is back!

CATS
Game/Series Known From: Zero Wing
Extrapolated Rank in 2002: 47th (13.30%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: 56th (13.52%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: 53rd (12.17%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2005: 46th (17.64%)
Seed in 2002: 13
Seed in 2003: 16
Seed in 2004: 16
Seed in 2005: 8
Lost in 2002 to Ryu in Round 1
Lost in 2003 to Cloud in Round 1
Lost in 2004 to Link in Round 1
Lost in 2005 to Master Chief in Round 1

That old fad/joke character is back!

Finally, we reach THE division to watch in this Contest, the Blast Division. And…*INCOMING PUN ALERT*, this division is looking to be a blast!

But of course, we need to start out with the appetizer. Sonic versus CATS. Yeah, no point to debate this one, so I’ll just comment on some things. Last year, CATS did his best ever, getting over 30% of the vote against Master Chief. He also had that nice, recognizable face picture in that match. He has yet another good picture here, so that may help him out. Also, while Sonic does well against fodder…he doesn’t overkill them. So I think CATS may be able to break 20% in this match.

Other than that…I got nothing. On to the next one, and that’s bound to be a slobberknawker!

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Sonic will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Sonic: 79% - CATS: 21%



Ulti’s Analysis

*plugs in Sonic 2005 against Villain Contest CATS in the Xst calc*

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Prediction Percentage: Sonic with 78.05%



HM’s Analysis

Hey, look at that – CATS is back for another contest! With his opponent being the Blue Hedgehog, this match will allow us to get an idea of how Sonic is going to fare in strength in comparison to 2005 – let’s hope for an underperformance of epic proportions! Outside of the percentage, there won’t be anything too exciting about this one. CATS has a history of being able to predict the winner despite being fodder, so we’ll see if Sonic is looking like a potential winner or a big loser (round 2, round 2!).

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: Sonic the Hedgehog

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: Sonic the Hedgehog – 76.5% ; CATS – 23.5%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: Sonic the Hedgehog



Yoblazer’s Analysis

I may very well fall asleep for the next 18 hours, so this is a safety placeholder more than anything. ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US

My prediction: Sonic def. CATS (79-21)



Lopen’s Analysis

Sonic is in last analysis is concern. CATS gets new picture have this match. It will new affect CATS from 12% on Link's Base to 19% on Link's Base, perhaps higher. It is uncertain but one thing that is CATS is picture power voted. The odds are turn CATS third picture is eggplant's superior, this much is of surest.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/5/2006 8:28:53 PM | message detail
Noting also CATS obtained on Master Chief 33%. Master Chief is not of competition of jokingly Felix struggling in 2005! … but, some would say X-Box/Halo hate is main. This is not likely is faulty problem. I tell you on this on date that was partially X-Box/Halo hate but not all the way it is to be not. Slightly balance in that Master Chief SFF CATS, he only is one with fanatic of fanbase. Also upset DARKNESS all is almost to be last year with proper facing. Undeniable support of CATS last fiercely upon date of face picture on.

CATS has no chance to win make his time, but survive tripling is truly.

Lopen is Prediction: Taking of Sonic obtain and 74.18%



KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

SONIC THE HEDGEHOG

"What you see is what you get. Just a guy who loves adventure. I'm Sonic the Hedgehog!"

Summer 2002 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 5th place [41.05%]

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 10th place [34.92%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 8th place [33.56%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 8th Place [35.28%]

The very silent but very real threat to take the male bracket (and statistically, the main bracket), Sonic the Hedgehog is back in action with another tough road ahead of him! He definitely impressed last year in his nailbiter against Mega Man, and while he didn't pull it off, he showed that he's better than he's been in a long time. However, he and Snake are the only two Noble Niners to never have won a match over any other NNer, and Sonic is the only NNer to never make the Final Four. *sigh* Depressing, and he's not the favorite to do either of those things this year by any means…but, hope springs eternal I suppose! WOO SONIC



CATS

"You appear to be preoccupied, gentlemen."

Summer 2002 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 47th Place [13.30%]

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 56th Place [13.09%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 58th Place [12.17%]

Spring 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 15th Place [19.66%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 49th Place [17.64%]

It seems as though Gordon and CATS, two of our most beloved laughingstocks, are finally coming into their own – doesn't it? Now, while CATS is by no stretch of the imagination going to win a match a la Mr. Freeman, since unlocking his true potential (that is, his face picture), he gave Ansem a scare and has elevated himself to the level of tough fodder. Let's see if he can keep up this good streak against another Noble Niner! WOO CATS



Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

Sonic the Hedgehog: Sonic Rush (DS)

CATS: N/A


Upcoming Releases

Sonic the Hedgehog: Sonic the Hedgehog (PS3, X360), Sonic and the Secret Rings (WII)

CATS: N/A



Y'know, this will probably be the first time we get a good reading on Face CATS. With Face CATS being behind Ganondorf's overperformance in the VC and then behind MC in 2k5, this seems to be our best shot to gauge how well he can do. As well, we're going to be looking for Sonic to prove himself to see if he has a shot at getting over the hump and perhaps finally winning a match against a Noble Niner, perhaps even taking the male bracket to face Samus…



…third time's a charm? In any case, it all starts here.


Karma Hunter's Vote: Sonic. Not that it isn't cool to vote for CATS, but Sonic is nipping at the heels of Mario for my favoritism.



Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Sonic the Hedgehog with 77.8%.



Too lazy to even switch up predictions. Bah!

Upset Potential: 0%



…it's CATS.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/5/2006 8:30:21 PM | message detail
Guest’s Analysis - WarThaNemesis

All your base are belong to us!

Once again, CATS gets in as a low seed, hoping to scrape on by. Could this be the year?


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No.


Sorry, Board 8, but CATS isn't losing again this time. Sonic overperformed last year, and is now being compared to Ganondorf and Vincent. The same Vincent who only put up 80% on Sarah Kerrigan. This is Sonic's weakest year yet, and CATS will take advantage of it.

Prediction: CATS with 62.3% at the first update.

That's enough of a win for me, but CATS will show strong in the unfair normal voting.

Final Prediction: Sonic the Hedgehog with 76.2%



Crew Consensus: CATS still on a losing streak. Sonic in the mid-to-high 70's.
Yesmar | Posted 10/5/2006 8:42:00 PM | message detail
Extreme Scenarios: Sonic the Hedgehog Vs. CATS

Scenario 1:


Sonic with 72.45%

For the first time, CATS will be getting a picture that is not a straight sprite of him or a face pic. For all we know, this could give CATS an even bigger boost in popularity, although that part's highly unlikely. Combine this with the fact that Sonic really hasn't done anything big in games lately, so he could drop leading me to the percentage above.

Scenario 2:

Sonic with 83.99%

While Sonic hasn't any big games recently, with the increase in voters for this contest, he won't need them and it's quite possible that Sonic could get a boost due to the increased casual voter base. It's also possible that CATS's less recognizable picture could lead to a massive decrease in popularity back to his pre-2005 level, meaning that Sonic might be able to score his biggest win yet.
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BDawg | Posted 10/5/2006 8:49:54 PM | message detail
I don't know who is in charge of the Sonic bandwagon but I might as well back my pick and charge into our inevitable fiery doom.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/5/2006 8:50:47 PM | message detail
Mega Man with 86.87% of the brackets.
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Kyle Bowen | Posted 10/5/2006 8:51:03 PM | message detail
I expected Squall to get 45% BEFORE I knew about the KH boost.

Now, I suppose 45% is the floor.


Not really.


Just look at what Kirby did to Bowser, and what Bowser did to Snake.

Make some minor adjustments for anomilies and factor in Squalls boost from KH being greater than hype (which usually doesnt do much) for MGS4, ect... and Squall getting 45% is logical.


Bias is me staring at my computer 10 minutes WANTING to pick Squall over Snake...


I didn't but I wanted to.


KB
creativename | Posted 10/5/2006 8:57:13 PM | message detail
Oh please. If this was Snake taking on Axel today, and the same results were unfolding, some of you would start speculating on why Snake will lose to a non noble nine character this year.

That's probably true. Axel would've very likely broken 30% on Snake too, in which case many people would've started seriously questioning Snake/Squall, and dismissing Snake's chances of being greater than Mega Man. This performance hardly reflects well on Mega Man, but I still don't think it means anything for his match against Snake.

I'm just really impressed by Axel here. I didn't expect him to be almost equal to Riku from last year at all.


As for Snake/Squall, I think people are going to be all surprised when Squall holds Snake to under 54%.

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creativename | Posted 10/5/2006 8:58:28 PM | message detail
Snake and Mega Man being the same person WOULD be pretty damn sweet!

Dr. Light's true genius revealed - he took the body of a legendary old warrior from the beginning of the century and placed him inside a robotic shell, to fight evil anew. Not revealing his true origin for fear of harming his psyche.

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/snes/a/mm7.htm

Mega Man really is 'More than a robot' - he's a Solid Cyborg.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/5/2006 8:59:33 PM | message detail
I'm sorry, but as a noble nine member who has a chance to impress this contest, you should at least be able to break 70% in Round 1. Failing to hit that number was kind of embarrassing and this is coming from someone who took MM to win the Male Bracket.

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Lopen | Posted 10/5/2006 8:59:42 PM | message detail
I kinda doubt Axel would've broken 30% on Snake, considering Sora barely topped that last year.

Still, it's all Axel. I'm not worried about Mega Man one bit.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/5/2006 9:00:19 PM | message detail
Sonic the Hedgehog 47.37% 18
CATS 57.89% 22
TOTAL VOTES 38

Yay board!
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Sonic vs. CATS - Bracket: Sonic - Vote: Sonic (23/24)
cyko | Posted 10/5/2006 9:00:29 PM | message detail
^^^ i completely agree with creativename. this anti-bandwagon would've started up no matter who Axel faced off against and exceeded expectations.

i also call Sonic to only win with 76-77%!! AND CATS will win the first minute update!!

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Janus5000 | Posted 10/5/2006 9:00:30 PM | message detail
Sonic the Hedgehog 49.41% 42
CATS 50.59% 43
TOTAL VOTES 85
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/5/2006 9:00:34 PM | message detail
90.42% for MM, not too bad
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Sonic vs. CATS - Bracket: Sonic - Vote: Sonic (23/24)
Eggplant Lord | Posted 10/5/2006 9:00:35 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted

Sonic the Hedgehog 45% 18
CATS 55% 22
TOTAL VOTES 40

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Gaddswell | Posted 10/5/2006 9:00:41 PM | message detail
Sonic the Hedgehog 47.22% 17
CATS 52.78% 19
TOTAL VOTES 36
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/5/2006 9:01:33 PM | message detail
Sonic the Hedgehog 69.62% 291
CATS 30.38% 127
TOTAL VOTES 418


Go CATS!

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cyko | Posted 10/5/2006 9:01:45 PM | message detail
well, maybe not. >_>

but at least CATS is still above 30%!

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therealmnm | Posted 10/5/2006 9:02:08 PM | message detail
Oh gawd, this board vote is sickening... The CATS Army still exists? Let it go already...
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/5/2006 9:02:15 PM | message detail
Wow the board only got CATS to just over 30%?
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/5/2006 9:03:13 PM | message detail
Oh gawd, this board vote is sickening... What happened to the CATS Army? Have you guys let it go already...?
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trannyscience | Posted 10/5/2006 9:03:14 PM | message detail
heh, MC/CATS was 51.5/48.5 after the first minute.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/5/2006 9:03:23 PM | message detail
Yeah, that's pretty weak for the almighty CATS board vote, this may get ugly...
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Sonic vs. CATS - Bracket: Sonic - Vote: Sonic (23/24)
AmazingKirby | Posted 10/5/2006 9:03:55 PM | message detail
Axel finished with 30.13 for Organization XIII!

And that was your 'partystar useless information of the last match'. >_>
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/5/2006 9:04:40 PM | message detail
For the record, Sonic is projected to get exactly 75% in this match!!

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2006 9:04:53 PM | message detail
You have to remember that with the increased votals with the new poll time, board CATS votes are watered down quicker.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2006 9:04:53 PM | message detail
Well, Sonic has a monstrous board vote as well. He's probably what I'd deem Board 8's favorite character, in all truth.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/5/2006 9:04:56 PM | message detail
75% is through Master Chief, yeah?
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/5/2006 9:05:20 PM | message detail
He's already almost at 75%...
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Sonic vs. CATS - Bracket: Sonic - Vote: Sonic (23/24)
The_Ocelot | Posted 10/5/2006 9:05:34 PM | message detail
Cats had 70% when I voted.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/5/2006 9:05:45 PM | message detail
75% is through Master Chief, yeah?

Yeah.

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charmander6000 | Posted 10/5/2006 9:05:45 PM | message detail
Almost at 75%.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/5/2006 9:06:31 PM | message detail
Wow, Sonic's doing way better than Link did on CATS.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 10/5/2006 9:06:49 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
23-----395------99.4936709
22-----1567-----99.2980217
21-----3786-----98.0982567
20-----6380-----96.9592476
19-----7158-----94.8169880
18-----6712-----91.8802145
17-----5584-----88.4133238
16-----4110-----84.4038929
15-----2799-----81.3504823
14-----1742-----81.8599311
13-----1033-----78.6060019
12-----591------77.3265651
11-----291------76.6323024
10-----132------74.2424242
9------53-------67.9245283
8------23-------56.5217391
7------9--------11.1111111
6------27-------22.2222222
5------26-------3.8461538
4------56-------1.7857143
3------70-------1.4285714
2------49-------0.0000000
1------33-------0.0000000
0------20-------0.0000000

Overall prediction percentage: 90.42%

The 0s all got it "right". The 1s all got it "right". The 2s all got it "right". But the perfects still don't! Two perfects thought it would be a good idea to take Axel over Mega Man. I think they overestimated the KH2 effect just a bit.

Amazingly one of the two perfects who fell was on the Top 50. highschoolhero had Axel taking out Mega Man.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/5/2006 9:07:03 PM | message detail
Wow, Sonic's doing way better than Link did on CATS.

Someone's going to say it!...
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Sonic vs. CATS - Bracket: Sonic - Vote: Sonic (23/24)
MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/5/2006 9:07:04 PM | message detail
Chief of course overrated him.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/5/2006 9:07:09 PM | message detail
Through 2004 CATS, he's expected to get 82.75%.

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cyko | Posted 10/5/2006 9:07:28 PM | message detail
not good. Sonic is looking at 80% at this rate!

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trannyscience | Posted 10/5/2006 9:08:05 PM | message detail
Sonic's got a good day vote too. hmm...
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Janus5000 | Posted 10/5/2006 9:08:08 PM | message detail
Crono is so screwed
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/5/2006 9:08:16 PM | message detail
As long as Sonic gets to 79%, it's all good. Point for me and Yo, yo!
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Sonic vs. CATS - Bracket: Sonic - Vote: Sonic (23/24)