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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 377

Super Luigi | Posted 10/5/2006 4:30:01 PM | message detail
Snake > Megaman.
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MasterMoltar | Posted 10/5/2006 4:30:16 PM | message detail
I know about his quote, but still, Axel's quote is favored more...

I think...
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/5/2006 4:30:21 PM | message detail
That's like saying Midna would have any semblance of strength if we just threw her in the contest right now.

But...but...she would!
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/5/2006 4:30:51 PM | message detail
And I'm not even a hardcore Zelda fanboy!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/5/2006 4:31:00 PM | message detail
Demyx's fight was the ONLY time I actually had a game over in the main storyline (that is, not fighting Sephiroth). Either way, the Demyx fight begins the best portion of the game, and it's pretty awesome itself. Honestly, it's probably my favorite Organization XIII fight. Some of the others have fights too much like Nobodies (I'm looking at YOU, Saix!).
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 10/5/2006 4:31:54 PM | message detail
Yeah, I think they just got lazy at the end with Saix and Luxord (though that one was a fun fight).
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Osfan | Posted 10/5/2006 4:32:49 PM | message detail
Being a KH fan i would have to vote for Dem over Ansem in a Villian Contest but i would have to agree with the consensus that Axel has a bigger role then both
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2006 4:34:45 PM | message detail
Yeah, I also forgot about Riku having his CoM role -- as badass as Axel is in that game, Riku is my favorite KH character for a reason.

*some CoM spoilers*






The fact that there are four boss fights against Riku (well, a replica, but it's the same thing) as opposed to Axel's two, the fact that Riku IV is the hardest boss fight of the game, and the fact that Reverse Rebirth where you play as Riku and where Riku just obliterates Sora in terms of coolness of powers and sleights makes that no contest for him.






Of course, you can argue that Riku 2k5 has some significant strength from CoM, but again...it's CoM, I really doubt it does much for either. It's the main KH series that is fueling these guys.
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therealmnm | Posted 10/5/2006 4:35:23 PM | message detail
Xaldin kicked my ass (Mickey ended up saving me), but I enjoyed every moment of that fight. I lost to Demyx on purpose partially because I enjoyed the fight, and partially to see what happened when the timer ran out. But yeah, Org XIII really peaked actual interest in the KH story. All of the characters in that game came out looking good (or better than they had). Even Kairi admittedly. Still don't think much of her... <_<
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/5/2006 4:36:48 PM | message detail
Only Org. XIII boss that kicked my ass was Xigbar. I had more trouble with him than I did with Demyx (who I didn't think was all that tough) and Xaldin (where Mickey saved my ass).
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MasterMoltar | Posted 10/5/2006 4:37:04 PM | message detail
Xaldin's fight > all

That was probably the battle I fought the hardest in (and Mickey showing up definitely saved my rear).
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Starion | Posted 10/5/2006 4:38:04 PM | message detail
Now, we can only hope that the KH:COM remake will come out here. Maybe it will boost the KH characters' strength in the contest a teensy bit more. I certainly want to see the other Organization members in 3D (particularly Larxene and Marluxia).
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/5/2006 4:38:09 PM | message detail
Axel definitely had a bigger role than Demyx in KH2. Still, Demyx was easily the second biggest Organization member IMO. I think he would rank higher than Ansem in the villains contest and could maybe be high-end fodder.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2006 4:40:21 PM | message detail
Marluxia was a flowery scythe wielding badass and Larxene was damn ruthless and scary...not to mention the only female member IIRC. Man, CoM's Organization members kicked all kinds of ass. I hope we finally get to see what Zexion's weapon was...
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/5/2006 4:42:06 PM | message detail
*spoilers for KH: Chain of Memories*


I don't think Zexion has a weapon. There was a part during the game where he says something to the effect of "I don't like to fight, it just isn't my style."
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/5/2006 4:42:14 PM | message detail
From Mac Arrowny Posted 10/5/2006 7:28:04 PM #147
Heh, I'd say that MM7's ending is enough to put Mega Man over anything Axel's done. In 8 games, that was Mega Man's ONE great moment, but it was absolutely incredible.

I beat the game and don't even remember that. Refresh my memory plz?

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/5/2006 4:43:25 PM | message detail
I don't like KH2. AXEL MUST BE FODDER lolz.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/5/2006 4:57:03 PM | message detail
I beat the game and don't even remember that. Refresh my memory plz?

"I AM MORE THAN A ROBOT!"

Soon to be followed by in Mega Man 8:

"Bass, why must we fight! We are not enemies!"


And I never needed Mickey against Xaldin. I came close to death, but I am overly conservative in boss fights, so...
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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/5/2006 4:58:06 PM | message detail
Speaking of fodder, Axel is likely to pass 23% on BL before the end of the match. That's much better than I would've ever expected out of him.

...Now all we need to do is get Seifer into a contest.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship:
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2006 4:58:37 PM | message detail
Demyx didn't like to fight either, but DAMMIT he had a weapon so we better get one out of Zexion! Plus Nomura hinted at it anyway.

I beat the game and don't even remember that. Refresh my memory plz?

*MEGA MAN 7 SPOILERS*












After defeating Dr. Wily, Wily says that he's very sorry and he'll go quietly. Mega Man replies with stating that he doesn't trust Wily and decides to finish him off once and for all. Wily weakly protests, citing that robots cannot kill humans, but Mega Man continues, asserting that he is "more than just a robot". Just before Mega Man has the opportunity to shoot (or not shoot) though, a piece of debris falls on Wily and then Bass shows up afterward to rescue him.

Yeah, that was pretty cool. Would've been a lot better if Mega Man had actually done him in though. <_<









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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/5/2006 5:05:34 PM | message detail
I've heard that line wasn't in the Japanese Mega Man 7, however, and that he was just silent.
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Starion | Posted 10/5/2006 5:06:14 PM | message detail
I thought Mr. "Dance Water Dance" was just pretending or playing around with the whole don't-like-to-fight attitude.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2006 5:06:23 PM | message detail
He charges up the gun no matter which version you're talking about, though.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/5/2006 5:07:45 PM | message detail
Preliminary stats through this match, assuming Axel finishes with 30% here:

Samus Aran – 41.69%
Mega Man – 38.79%
Solid Snake – 36.97%
Squall Leonhart – 35.16%
Dante Sparda – 34.12%
Princess Zelda – 33.71%
Tifa Lockhart – 33.57%
Aeris Gainsborough – 32.81%
Sora – 32.00%
Ryu – 29.98%
Yoshi – 29.01%
Rikku – 26.55%
Yuna – 26.10%
Riku – 25.99%
Kratos – 25.72%
Gordon Freeman – 25.60%
Chun-Li – 24.92%
Ryu Hayabusa – 23.75%
Jill Valentine – 23.74%
Princess Peach – 23.50%
Axel – 23.27%
The Boss – 23.00%
Phoenix Wright – 21.40%
KOS-MOS – 21.30%
Marle – 19.83%
Tidus – 19.68%
Kairi – 19.39%
Terra Branford – 18.65%
Ada Wong – 18.64%
Claire Redfield – 18.58%
Sheena Fujibayashi – 18.03%
Celes Chere – 17.90%
Lara Croft – 16.75%
Joanna Dark – 16.50%
Ivy Valentine – 15.99%
Tingle – 15.61%
Kasumi – 15.58%
Sarah Kerrigan – 15.41%
Nidoran F – 15.13%
Amy Rose – 14.73%
Lenneth Valkyrie – 13.28%
Soma Cruz – 13.20%
Cortana – 13.12%
Roll – 10.81%
Carmen Sandiego – 9.38%
Jade – 9.00%
Princess Daisy – 7.94%
Alyx Vance – 7.52%
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/5/2006 5:07:54 PM | message detail
He wouldn't need it anyway. Vincent's going to expose Ganondorf come Saturday.

It's cute how you think that! Really!

I'm looking forward to hearing how your bias against Ganon didn't translate into any type of "exposure"!!

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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/5/2006 5:08:44 PM | message detail
I thought Mr. "Dance Water Dance" was just pretending or playing around with the whole don't-like-to-fight attitude.

Heh, it sure seemed like it when the battle came around. Though I'm assuming he was talking about straight weapon-to-weapon combat, since he doesn't do any of that.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/5/2006 5:09:39 PM | message detail
It's cute how you think that! Really!

I'm looking forward to hearing how your bias against Ganon didn't translate into any type of "exposure"!!


As soon as you tell me of how your bias toward Ganon didn't result in you taking him to win the Male Bracket!!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/5/2006 5:11:05 PM | message detail
Phoenix Wright – 21.40%
Tidus – 19.68%


I would so take that upset.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/5/2006 5:11:36 PM | message detail
I do not deny that it played a role...but I was really just banking on TP for that!! ;_;

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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/5/2006 5:12:36 PM | message detail
But if you really must know, I take his match with Diablo to be worth more than assuming that he absolutely MUST be above Bowser because he out-overperformed him against Sephiroth.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship:
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trannyscience | Posted 10/5/2006 5:13:10 PM | message detail
sheesh, I just looked at the poll for the first time in a few hours. Mega Man's definitely gonna go under 70%.

good show, Axel. I have no idea what to make of you.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/5/2006 5:13:35 PM | message detail
What say you, HM?

It did not stop the game from being looked upon as bad. Added to that, it didn't even sell very well. I suppose we should ignore all that and remain under the delusion that DoC is a good game and all sorts of people bought it and loved it.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/5/2006 5:14:10 PM | message detail
For the record, based on these stats, Riku beats Axel with 55.23% this year.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2006 5:14:42 PM | message detail
There *is* always the slight chance that only Bowser overperformed on Sephiroth, that pre-KH2 Auron is equal to Snake, and that Ganondorf is therefore stronger than Crono!

...lol Ganon
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2006 5:16:59 PM | message detail
If I'm not mistaken, that was Axel's best update of the match right there. Snagged 39% that time.

For the record, based on these stats, Riku beats Axel with 55.23% this year.

We obviously can't be having that! Looks like Snake's gonna have to win the male bracket to make up for it!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/5/2006 5:17:06 PM | message detail
And honestly, with every match that KH is involved in, I'm becoming more convinced that Sora will be a beast this year. Nearly everybody I know liked him better in KHII than the original.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/5/2006 5:18:40 PM | message detail
But if you really must know, I take his match with Diablo to be worth more than assuming that he absolutely MUST be above Bowser because he out-overperformed him against Sephiroth.

While he may not be above him guaranteed, he's at least near him definitely. Bowser's projected to put up slightly worse numbers against Tidus than Ganon is against Yuna. I think those two are quite comparable, though with the nod to Tidus, which along with everything else is what makes me think Ganon is at least near Bowser's level. Now if that's slightly above or slightly below is anyone's guess...

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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/5/2006 5:19:47 PM | message detail
Bowser's projected to put up slightly worse numbers against Tidus than Ganon is against Yuna.

This is not good for Ganondorf.
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Round 1: Status of Tidus - LIONHEART'D
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2006 5:22:25 PM | message detail
Man, FFX-2 better have a completely different Yuna to account for that boost, because the Yuna I saw, even with as unlikable as Tidus could be, should be nowhere close to hanging with him.

Not that she didn't have a good enough character -- but my goodness, that voice acting...
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/5/2006 5:22:38 PM | message detail
Getting a 39% update on Mega Man for a character expected to be weaker than Ansem is like...whoa. Even Zelda got 39% total.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/5/2006 5:23:07 PM | message detail
I'm in wait-and-see mode with Sora. I want to see how he performs on Freeman. he may not be the most transitive of characters, but if Sora can succeed in beating him down I'll be really impressed. Leon 2k5 is just a little weaker than Sora 2k4 and Leon couldn't even manage 60%.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/5/2006 5:23:35 PM | message detail
Man, FFX-2 better have a completely different Yuna to account for that boost

Oh trust me, Yuna is very different in FFX-2, which is why the game makes me so FURIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship:
Round 1: Status of Tidus - LIONHEART'D
Gooper Blooper | Posted 10/5/2006 5:23:41 PM | message detail
I think we should've had Axel from Streets of Rage in the contest instead of another Kingdom Hearts character. >.>
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/5/2006 5:25:11 PM | message detail
This is not good for Ganondorf.

No, it is good for Ganon because Yuna is not going to be far off from Tidus. Regardless of how you feel about FFX-2 Yuna, there is the simple fact that she is an important character -- one of the "main" characters -- in FFX and the main character in FFX-2. She has every reason to be very close to him. I don't think she's above him, but there's minimal difference between the two in strength.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/5/2006 5:26:01 PM | message detail
No, it is good for Ganon because Yuna is not going to be far off from Tidus.

If you say so.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/5/2006 5:26:43 PM | message detail
And let's just say I don't foresee Tidus going from 49%+ to under 40% against Ganon in two years.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship:
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/5/2006 5:27:23 PM | message detail
If you say so.

I would hope you would be able to see something so clear like that too. Tidus is the main character of FFX and that's it. Yuna is an important character in FFX and the main character in FFX-2. I'm not sure how you would think the two would be worlds apart. That just makes no sense.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 10/5/2006 5:27:48 PM | message detail
Worlds apart? No. Noticeably apart? Yes.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/5/2006 5:28:22 PM | message detail
And Rikku is the best character in both games, so she's stronger than both Tidus and Yuna!
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/5/2006 5:28:44 PM | message detail
And let's just say I don't foresee Tidus going from 49%+ to under 40% against Ganon in two years.

That would not be shocking in the slightest. Tidus and Ganon are a world apart at this point.

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