GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 376
| XIII_rocks | Posted 10/4/2006 9:01:09 AM | message detail |
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FTR, I only did the whole "OMG IT WOULD BE AWESOME TO MAKE A STATS
TOPIC LOL !!!" the first time I did it. After that, it's mostly been
making it the same as the rest - when needed. Feh. Anyway, hopefully Kratos can at least break 40 on Ryu. Using 2005 xstats: Kratos (2005c) VS Ryu (2005c) Kratos has a strength of 20.40. Ryu has a strength of 29.98. Ryu wins with 65.98% of the vote! A win of 28,290 with 88,532 total votes cast. Now, I'd say Ryu's value is about right. Bowser overperformed on Snake but underperformed on Kirby, so it pretty much balances out. If it didn't, then the difference wouldn't be big anyway. So basically we're looking at a 6% "stronger" Kratos (taking into account his 2K5 underratedness and his games sales doubling), if he does hit 40. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz AC2K6 Score: 23/23 Today: Ryu |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/4/2006 9:29:06 AM | message detail |
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You're already talking about an underrated Kratos. Don't take his 2005 ranking at face value. But I still believe Ryu is underrated. Not that it matters or anything. His path has only one possible outcome. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 2: Etna (0-1) |
| mmmApplesauce | Posted 10/4/2006 10:07:24 AM | message detail |
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Now, I'd say Ryu's value is about right. Bowser overperformed on Snake but underperformed on Kirby, so it pretty much balances out. If it didn't, then the difference wouldn't be big anyway. WTF does him underperfoming on Kirby have anything to do with Ryu? Hell I don't even think he did underperform, but seriously, what the hell. So basically we're looking at a 6% "stronger" Kratos (taking into account his 2K5 underratedness and his games sales doubling), if he does hit 40. Hooray not knowing how to determine x-stat placement. If you keep Ryu at his 2005 value, and boost up Kratos 6%, Ryu 55.5-44.5's him. Not 60-40. --- I love bananas. |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/4/2006 10:10:25 AM | message detail |
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He's talking about 6% on direct performance, obviously. At the 13:05 mark, this match has 58399 votes. To compare with other matches at the same time: Samus Aran/Nidoran F - 57396 Jill/Sheena - 56671 Snake/Soma - 55067 Squall/Tidus - 58683 Looking like 110,000 today. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 2: Etna (0-1) |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/4/2006 10:16:59 AM | message detail |
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At this point, I'm thinking 41% is probably the area where Kratos
finishes at the most. Based on Ryu 2005, that would put Kratos at
24.58% on BL, between Chun-Li and Diablo. This is almost certain to be inaccurate since Kratos is probably stronger this year, but basing Alucard off of that number puts him at 27.63% on BL (right above Leon Kennedy), which in turn puts Sora at around 30.95% on BL (almost equal with Auron's 2005 number and right below Luigi). Take that as you will. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 2: Etna (0-1) |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 10/4/2006 10:19:49 AM | message detail |
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Fun-fact: XIII and TuRtLe have recently gone well out of their way
to make CS&D topics despite not being around the topics for too
long... ...meanwhile, this topic "celebrates" 100 topics passing since the last time I made one, and I've been a regular in these topics since Spring 2k4. I feel like it had to be said since BT said "I've been trying to make one since 360, but was beaten every time" last topic when he made it so early. Not to say you are the only one, not by any chance, but I'll single you out here because people seriously need to chill the **** out about it and you're the most recent. Then again, it was probably going to be a dead issue until this post, too, heh..... oh, oh, I win, I win. I have officially not made a stats topic, and I've been here since the summer of 2k3! And Yoshi > Dante! because it's related! --- Revenge is a dish best served by Z1mZum in the 2k6 Series Guru Contest. |
| voltch | Posted 10/4/2006 10:21:42 AM | message detail |
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is base link still used for stat measuring? --- Z1mZum humiliated me to hell and back in the Best.Series.Ever contest. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/4/2006 10:24:21 AM | message detail |
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Heh...Jill Valentine lost 3.24% to Sheena in the last 9 hours of the
poll, and Jill was consistantly at 65% up until that after-school vote.
I'm expecting Ryu to lose 2-3%, personally. --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/4/2006 10:26:08 AM | message detail |
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voltch, yeah. Kinda unfortunate, I say, but some of us are too used to
the old Link...Cloud would make much more sense, being consistant for 3
years. --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| mmmApplesauce | Posted 10/4/2006 10:44:28 AM | message detail |
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He's talking about 6% on direct performance, obviously. Eh... who considers that being 6% stronger? --- I love bananas. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 10/4/2006 10:50:45 AM | message detail |
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At this point, I'm thinking 41% is probably the area where Kratos
finishes at the most. Based on Ryu 2005, that would put Kratos at
24.58% on BL, between Chun-Li and Diablo. I would expect Kratos to get a much larger favoring with the after school vote than Ryu would. I think this is going to end up right around 42% for Kratos, which is exactly what I would have expected out of this match. Still a very impressive performance by Kratos with a very nice boost from his game selling more. --- "Master using it and you can have this." http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/160/masterjg3.jpg |
| mmmApplesauce | Posted 10/4/2006 10:51:20 AM | message detail |
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Like I said, congrats to HM in advance on the analysis crew point. >_> --- I love bananas. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2006 10:52:52 AM | message detail |
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And Harr, making a stats topic is just one of those things. I'm sure
back when you were a newbie you felt that you had to make at least one. TuRtLe ~~~ I used my brain and statistics to make my bracket. Karma Hunter used MGS fanboyism. KH won. Commit it to memory. |
| mmmApplesauce | Posted 10/4/2006 10:53:18 AM | message detail |
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No. --- I love bananas. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 10/4/2006 10:55:39 AM | message detail |
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And I got that 42% by bringing Sora back up to his 2004 level, which
underrates him in 2005 by about 3%, then adjusting Kratos as a result
and then giving Kratos a nice 2% boost from God of War selling an
additional 600,000 copies. That puts Kratos around 26% on BL, which
ends up in between an underrated Sora and an underrated Yuna. The actual percentage comes out to be something like 57%, so it's not precise, but it's close enough. I never bothered to mess with any of that overrated Bowser/Ryu/Kirby/whatever. Just kept Ryu what he was given in 2005. --- "Master using it and you can have this." http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/160/masterjg3.jpg |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 10/4/2006 10:57:45 AM | message detail |
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Kratos over 40%!! --- "Master using it and you can have this." http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/160/masterjg3.jpg |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2006 11:00:35 AM | message detail |
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Oh snap, Kratos breaks 40% TuRtLe ~~~ I used my brain and statistics to make my bracket. Karma Hunter used MGS fanboyism. KH won. Commit it to memory. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2006 11:01:51 AM | message detail |
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Also, if this match continues at its current rate, what's it projected to end at roughly? Or were those last 2 updates the warning signs of a bad after-school vote for Ryu? TuRtLe ~~~ I used my brain and statistics to make my bracket. Karma Hunter used MGS fanboyism. KH won. Commit it to memory. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/4/2006 11:06:37 AM | message detail |
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voltch, yeah. Kinda unfortunate, I say, but some of us are too used
to the old Link...Cloud would make much more sense, being consistant
for 3 years. Who we use for measuring is completely irrelevant, since it's only used for comparing other characters. All that matters is that we can base every set of stats on it, and it would take too much work to retroactively do that with all the stats now. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| Xuxon | Posted 10/4/2006 11:17:34 AM | message detail |
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Also, if this match continues at its current rate, what's it projected to end at roughly? Ryu got 57.73% of the vote from 1-2PM. If that continued for 50000 votes after 2pm, Ryu would end at 58.96%. If you use the percentages from 10AM-2PM to project, Ryu would end at 59.17%. --- Take off every sig. |
| Xuxon | Posted 10/4/2006 11:20:16 AM | message detail |
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Also, people are saying Axel will be weaker than Kairi. That seemed
kind of weird to me, but I haven't played Kingdom Hearts, does anyone
have any thoughts on that? --- Take off every sig. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/4/2006 11:33:49 AM | message detail |
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I think Axel's fanbase is more overblown and vocal than what it may
appear, especially since much of his popularity comes from CoM. He's
sort of...a side villain(ish) in KH2, and I think that might cost him. --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| mmmApplesauce | Posted 10/4/2006 11:35:46 AM | message detail |
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And I got that 42% by bringing Sora back up to his 2004 level, which
underrates him in 2005 by about 3%, then adjusting Kratos as a result
and then giving Kratos a nice 2% boost from God of War selling an
additional 600,000 copies. That puts Kratos around 26% on BL, which
ends up in between an underrated Sora and an underrated Yuna. The actual percentage comes out to be something like 57%, so it's not precise, but it's close enough. I never bothered to mess with any of that overrated Bowser/Ryu/Kirby/whatever. Just kept Ryu what he was given in 2005. That's exactly what I did, but I kept it at 57.2%, I didn't bump it to 58%. >_> --- I love bananas. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/4/2006 11:36:06 AM | message detail |
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I'd find it hard to believe that Axel would be weaker than Kairi, but I
could see him on about the same level. Still, due to this supposed KH2
boost, I expect him to slightly overpreform on Mega Man. --- CB5 Points: 20/22, Current Oracle placement: 32/162 Now playing: Okami |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 10/4/2006 11:37:44 AM | message detail |
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Axel being weaker than Kairi wouldn't surprise me at all. --- "Master using it and you can have this." http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/160/masterjg3.jpg |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/4/2006 11:47:18 AM | message detail |
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Kairi is just one of those characters that it's difficult to say WHY
she has as many fans as she does...she just does. Maybe it's because
she's so closely connected to Sora, or she's hawt or something. (plus,
I have a difficult time seeing Axel beat even a far-fallen Claire
Redfield) I prefer Axel, myself. --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/4/2006 11:49:13 AM | message detail |
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 10/4/2006 11:37:44 AM Axel being weaker than Kairi wouldn't surprise me at all. Yes, but neither would Smaus breaking 94% on Nidoran, or Ganon winning the whole thing >___> --- CB5 Points: 20/22, Current Oracle placement: 32/162 Now playing: Okami |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/4/2006 11:49:35 AM | message detail |
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And I so meant to write Smaus. --- CB5 Points: 20/22, Current Oracle placement: 32/162 Now playing: Okami |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/4/2006 11:52:38 AM | message detail |
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Axel could be weak, but it's tough for me to imagine him folding
completely. It just seems obvious to expect him to beat Conker's 24% on
Mega Man last year. --- The Little Mermaid 2-Disc Platinum Edition DVD Coming October 3, 2006 |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/4/2006 11:54:23 AM | message detail |
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But, if someone like me prefers Axel for Kairi, maybe it is indeed a
sign that Axel > Kairi. Too bad Kairi's probably getting SFFed next
round. --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/4/2006 11:57:49 AM | message detail |
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I love Axel, but it's mostly for CoM (respect the sig, yo) and while he
does have a very vocal and somewhat rabid fanbase for KH2...I just
don't expect much out of him. The thing about Axel is that he was hyped
since day one in the KH2 trailers and such -- he could have had
virtually any semi-major role and people on this board would have loved
him. Not that I'd accuse anyone in particular of being sheep or anything !! But I don't really expect much from Axel. He's only basically got that semi-major role in KH2 to work off, and I certainly wouldn't put him on Kairi's level. Roxas would beat him too (well, Roxas has a shot at Kairi, so yeah...). Like I said, if Axel impresses against Mega Man, expect big things from KH2. (or for MM to lose big time to Snake <_____<) --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/4/2006 12:11:28 PM | message detail |
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And Harr, making a stats topic is just one of those things. I'm sure
back when you were a newbie you felt that you had to make at least one. *checks my computer form history* Whenever 215 was, that was my first (of three total) topics made -- I figure that was last summer or last spring, I dunno, but either way that's a solid year of participatin' in the topics before then. Either way, I'm ready to drop it; I just don't like people actually giving a damn that much to make a topic when people who have been here longer or have been more active are much more relaxed about it. I mean, come on, we should all take after FastFalcon here! --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| mmmApplesauce | Posted 10/4/2006 12:14:37 PM | message detail |
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Nice to see Ryu plummeting with the after school vote! --- I love bananas. |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 10/4/2006 12:17:40 PM | message detail |
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I mean, come on, we should all take after FastFalcon here! That's correct, we should support Yoshi over Dante, because it's going to happen. Once Axel outdoes Yoshi on Megaman, we realize that Axel can't possibly be stronger than Riku, and we understand the massive sff Mega did to Yoshi, we'll know, indisputably, that Yoshi > Dante. --- Revenge is a dish best served by Z1mZum in the 2k6 Series Guru Contest. |
| transience | Posted 10/4/2006 12:25:17 PM | message detail |
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jeez, Kratos really is a beast with the day vote. he's beating Ryu
worse than his dreadful morning vote. err, "beating" isn't the right
word, but you know what I mean. I wouldn't be amazed if he managed to
win an update at some point. --- Query "Results" failed: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ' WHERE Gordon.IsWinner = True AND Predic |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/4/2006 12:26:06 PM | message detail |
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Wow, it's that bad? --- CB5 Points: 20/22, Current Oracle placement: 32/162 Now playing: Okami |
| Draco1214 | Posted 10/4/2006 12:29:05 PM | message detail |
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Well, Kratos did win some updates against Alucard. I'm expecting some update wins against Ryu myself. --- Character Battle V Score - 21/22 points Current Prediction - Kratos (God of War) vs. Ryu (Street Fighter) |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/4/2006 12:38:05 PM | message detail |
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Last update Ryu only went up 20, winning an update is very plausible. --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Draco1214 | Posted 10/4/2006 12:41:21 PM | message detail |
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games. Sucks that he (along with Squall, Sora, Bowser, Ryu, and Auron,
among others) got wasted in this bracket. ...man, this is reminding me of how disappointing this contest has been so far. Hopefully, the later matches will be interesting. --- Character Battle V Score - 21/22 points Current Prediction - Kratos (God of War) vs. Ryu (Street Fighter) |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/4/2006 12:44:41 PM | message detail |
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If Ceej ever let the stats topic create a summer contest bracket, I'd
be the happiest man alive. Even if we weren't allowed to tweek with
seeding, it'd be awesome. Too bad it will never happen! --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Redtooth | Posted 10/4/2006 12:45:27 PM | message detail |
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oh, oh, I win, I win. I have officially not made a stats topic, and I've been here since the summer of 2k3! I saw a stats topic in 2003 (I think), but the sheer size and amount of real words in the first page alone of the made me click the back button faster then I have for most shock websites. And I've never created a topic. Then again, I only started reading them at the end of last year. And only started posting during this year. Hey, maybe in another three years, I'll contribute too! =D And Yoshi > Dante! because it's related! Of course it's related; facts of life are always related to discussions about topic creation history. But just for emphasis, Yoshi > Dante. --- Z1mZum>Redtooth Nice list, I counted twenty that would be in my top ten - BlondeAfroHero7 |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 10/4/2006 12:46:56 PM | message detail |
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*high fives Redtooth* --- Revenge is a dish best served by Z1mZum in the 2k6 Series Guru Contest. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/4/2006 12:48:03 PM | message detail |
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I'm going to have a good time when Dante/Snake is closer than Dante/Yoshi. Dante knows no such thing of Snakes PS SFF. --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/4/2006 12:50:59 PM | message detail |
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Ryu/Kratos go dead even! --- mmm feel the vibration baby |
| consolefreak | Posted 10/4/2006 12:51:55 PM | message detail |
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Kratos looking damn fine there. --- CB: 22/22. Today: Tomorrow: Kratos vs. Ryu. Tomorrow: Mega Man vs. Axel. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/4/2006 12:52:10 PM | message detail |
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Even without any traditional SFF, Snake (or Squall, LOL) is going to
blow past Dante with absolute ease. Unless you're expecting Dante to
60-40 Yoshi's ass, don't count on it being closer -- Dante is simply
outdone by Snake and his series on every level. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| Redtooth | Posted 10/4/2006 12:57:43 PM | message detail |
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*High fives back* And having a stats topic bracket would be interesting, if only to see how it would play out. Most casual bait would be eliminated, seeing as those aren't really interesting matches. We'd have a ton of untested, debated matches thrown in. Only thing I can think of that would screw it up is how a bunch of matches would probably turn out like MM/MK. A lot of anticipation and excitement, but a lot of duds too. More then likely, someone would probably do better with instinct then statistics for a contest that you stats people would make (lol). But that'd be worth getting destroyed in points wise just to see the results of some things... --- Z1mZum>Redtooth Nice list, I counted twenty that would be in my top ten - BlondeAfroHero7 |
| GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/4/2006 12:59:16 PM | message detail |
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If the Devil Division wasn't overrated last year, and I don't think it
was, Dante has every reason to do better on Snake than Yoshi does on
him. DMC3 doubling it's sales + DMC2: Greatest Hits + DMC: Greatest
Hits Collection, all being out, is going to give him a decent sized
boost. And DMC:GHC will be coming out during the contest. --- mmm feel the vibration baby |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/4/2006 12:59:23 PM | message detail |
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Why are we talking about the stats topic bracket again? Didn't Ceej shoot down that idea personally back in '04? <.< --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/4/2006 1:00:47 PM | message detail |
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And having a stats topic bracket would be interesting, if only to
see how it would play out. Most casual bait would be eliminated, seeing
as those aren't really interesting matches. We'd have a ton of
untested, debated matches thrown in. Only thing I can think of that
would screw it up is how a bunch of matches would probably turn out
like MM/MK. A lot of anticipation and excitement, but a lot of duds
too. More then likely, someone would probably do better with instinct
then statistics for a contest that you stats people would make (lol).
But that'd be worth getting destroyed in points wise just to see the
results of some things... MK/MM was only like that because we had never seen anything like that before. It was completely new. That's why I specified summer contest. If he gave us a spinoff, it'd still be cool, but not nearly as awesome as the classic character battle. --- mmm feel the vibration baby |