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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 374

longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/2/2006 7:04:14 PM | message detail
Alucard > Auron would actually be a pretty damned good upset pick....about two years ago >_>
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/2/2006 7:06:21 PM | message detail
I still don't see how Phoenix would be weaker than KoaC. He's from a fairly big game on the DS, has alot of support from B8 and LUE and has a little strength from his fad. I doubt Phoenix will win, but I can't see this getting beyond 60-40.

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dragoontheguy | Posted 10/2/2006 7:07:46 PM | message detail
He's from a fairly big game on the DS

Selling well under 100k copies = fairly big?
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daverath | Posted 10/2/2006 7:07:49 PM | message detail
I didn't really think that PW would win when I put him in my bracket. Usually I try my hardest to get the best score I can. This is the one match though that I've ever put down a character I'm fairly certain will lose. The way I see it though is this; if Phoenix wins somehow, one more point for me; if he loses, I have way more to worry about than a silly online contest (namely the end of the universe).
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Tediz247 | Posted 10/2/2006 7:08:48 PM | message detail
Fairly big games sell 50,000 copies? News to me. KoaC's games sold more, and were on the most popular console on GameFAQs. KoaC also had massive support from Board 8 and LUE, remember.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/2/2006 7:08:58 PM | message detail
Selling well under 100k copies = fairly big?

I'd consider Panzer Dragoon Saga a fairly big Saturn game. There's still quite a demand for copies of PW out there. He has enough of a niche fanbase to be stronger than KoaC

TuRtLe
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/2/2006 7:09:10 PM | message detail
I guess I should start taking a screenshot of my leaderboard position for posterity. <_<
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Current Prediction - Phoenix Wright vs. Gordon Freeman
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/2/2006 7:09:39 PM | message detail
I still don't see how Phoenix would be weaker than KoaC. He's from a fairly big game on the DS, has alot of support from B8 and LUE and has a little strength from his fad.

KoaC was from a game on the PS2, a system that eclipses the DS in terms of playership (and don't fool yourself, PW wasn't a big game by any stretch of the imagination). KD was also huge on Board 8 and LUE at the time, so no go there.

Plus, if Tidus was overrated last year through Kirby/Bowser/whatnot, that makes KoaC look even worse.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/2/2006 7:10:45 PM | message detail
Plus, if Tidus was overrated last year through Kirby/Bowser/whatnot, that makes KoaC look even worse.

Exactly, Phoenix would slaughter him. Gordon won't break 60% though.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/2/2006 7:11:13 PM | message detail
I'd consider Panzer Dragoon Saga a fairly big Saturn game.

...you really shouldn't.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/2/2006 7:11:22 PM | message detail
I guess I should start taking a screenshot of my leaderboard position for posterity. <_<

I wish I could do that back in the day when I was on it three or four times...
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/2/2006 7:12:04 PM | message detail
The only PW related thing we have is this poll


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2243


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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/2/2006 7:12:34 PM | message detail
Exactly, Phoenix would slaughter him.

STOP USING BULL**** REASONING.

No, seriously. You ignored the entire freaking point and went right back to the roundabout unbacked claim that ARGH DARN YOU TURTLE
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Tediz247 | Posted 10/2/2006 7:13:23 PM | message detail
Nintendogs beat it by a good margin. That shows how popular it is sitewide.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 10/2/2006 7:14:18 PM | message detail
Whoah Shivan, I haven't seen that poll brought up before (or remember it). Good find, that pretty much put the nail in the coffin for my belief of phoenix wright being a board creation.
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leo3leo | Posted 10/2/2006 7:22:55 PM | message detail
Go, Phoenix, Fly.
Big Bob | Posted 10/2/2006 7:24:59 PM | message detail
You know, I wonder if Phoenix is going to benefit from something I call CTS - Chrono Trigger Syndrome.

While Chrono Trigger is a popular game, it has only done decent in terms of sales and overall recognition. Yet for some reason it seems every single person who's played CT comes to GameFAQs and ends up backing Crono in the contests.

This isn't the only sign of it either. Morrigan? Aya Brea? Symphony of the Night? Xenogears? I'd never even heard of Xenogears, yet it beat one of the most popular games of the years before the contest. On an opposite note, Master Chief isn't nearly as strong as his popularity would imply.

Gordon Freeman's already shown that he falls into the latter category; his game won the entire contest at GameSpy, yet he's struggled with fodder before. If Phoenix happens to be in the former, we have the making for an upset.
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Ness26 | Posted 10/2/2006 7:25:58 PM | message detail
Crono also looks like a DBZ character. That's sadly probably a significant factor. =X
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/2/2006 7:26:19 PM | message detail
Yeah, I started thinking about Phoenix Wright possibly being a niche character here. It's a possibility, but not a likely one...
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Character Battle V Score - 21/21 points
Current Prediction - Phoenix Wright vs. Gordon Freeman
Tediz247 | Posted 10/2/2006 7:26:35 PM | message detail
Chrono Trigger is probably the most emulated game ever. I'm pretty sure there isn't a reliable DS emulator out there.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/2/2006 7:27:35 PM | message detail
Yeah but unlike Crone, his game isn't #3 on the site.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/2/2006 7:27:42 PM | message detail
Chrono Trigger would be able to beat Nintendogs in a poll too.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/2/2006 7:27:54 PM | message detail
This board is going to be such a mess in two hours.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 10/2/2006 7:28:16 PM | message detail
While Chrono Trigger is a popular game, it has only done decent in terms of sales and overall recognition. Yet for some reason it seems every single person who's played CT comes to GameFAQs and ends up backing Crono in the contests.

A lot more people have played it then it's sales imply due to widespread snes rom usage.

That's what I think anyways.
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/2/2006 7:29:35 PM | message detail
And forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that poll taken before the fad and during the first shipment?
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Current Prediction - Phoenix Wright vs. Gordon Freeman
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/2/2006 7:31:04 PM | message detail

STOP USING BULL**** REASONING.

No, seriously. You ignored the entire freaking point and went right back to the roundabout unbacked claim that ARGH DARN YOU TURTLE


People that don't have the brain power to get out of the bed in the morning without falling on their face usually do that.

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Kratos_42 | Posted 10/2/2006 7:31:37 PM | message detail
V_V Dragoon, I wasn't trying to lend credence to my argument, of which one I don't have, I was just commenting on tommorow's match and telling my pick. The perfect thing was there so that people would know that in two days, they can count on one less.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/2/2006 7:32:59 PM | message detail
Every single game Big Bob mentioned KILLED Phoenix Wright in sales. Even Xenogears sold over 200k here. Phoenix Wright: AA hasn't broken 50k.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 10/2/2006 7:33:43 PM | message detail
V_V Dragoon, I wasn't trying to lend credence to my argument, of which one I don't have, I was just commenting on tommorow's match and telling my pick. The perfect thing was there so that people would know that in two days, they can count on one less.

My post wasn't really drected at you, seeing as I wasn't sure if you were bragging about your perfect bracket or not, I used it more as a jumping board into my rant then anything. I blame both of our posts sheer lack of clarity... >_>
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therealmnm | Posted 10/2/2006 7:38:59 PM | message detail
Katamari Damacy wasn't exactly "cult"... It got hyped as a cult games, but it was all over every major gaming magazine. The King of All Cosmos would probably beat Phoenix Wright with little problems.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/2/2006 7:39:14 PM | message detail
Destiny Division: Round 1 - Match 22 – (4)Phoenix Wright vs. (5)Gordon Freeman

Moltar’s Analysis

Phoenix
Game/Series Known From: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney

HOLD IT! Phoenix actually made it in the Contest as a 4 seed? That’s like…a serious competitor spot!

Gordon
Game/Series Known From: Half-Life
Extrapolated Rank in 2002: 53rd (11.31%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: 53rd (15.86%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: 51st (13.40%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2005: 37th (20.88%)
Seed in 2002: 3
Seed in 2003: 7
Seed in 2004: 10
Seed in 2005: 4
Lost in 2002 to Tina in Round 1
Lost in 2003 to Max in Round 1
Lost in 2004 to Sam in Round 1
Lost in 2005 to Leon in Round 1

The loser we all love is back, and looking to…WIN?!

CjayC knows about GFNW. Really, he has too. So why did he make this match? Was it to end tradition? Was it because he likes Freeman? Was it because the G-man made him? Can we just blame the female bracket? We may never know, but we do know this. Gordon Freeman, the man who hasn’t won a single match in his 4 years of Contest history at GameFAQs, faces one of the biggest rallied characters we’ve ever seen, Phoenix Wright. Let the “Objections!” begin.

The only reason this match is in debate is because of GFNW. Since he’s never won before, why now? I mean, he lost to Tina, Sam and Max. That’s a horrible record. But this was pre-2005, and pre-Half. Life. 2.

OBJECTION! Half-Life 2 did nothing for Gordon Freeman!

Wha? You’re telling me the guy goes from losing to Sam Fisher to putting up 42% on Leon Kennedy (who avoided the doubling from MEGA MAN), and Half-Life 2, the man’s only game in what, 8 years, did nothing for him? Half-Life 2 pushed Gordon Freeman back into the gaming spotlight AND was one of the biggest games of 2004, of course he’s going to get a very nice boost. Not to mention, Leon had just come off RE4, the biggest game of 2005.

HOLD IT! Phoenix Wright also has a game and a fad behind him!

The game sold poorly (and isn’t even all that popular on GameFAQs), and a fad can only take you so far. CATS is the strongest fad character, and AYB is much, much larger than the Objection fad. Phoenix won’t even be near that. That’s not to say though, that a good chunk of Phoenix’s strength will be from his fad supporters, and that should keep him from being blown out by Freeman. But still…

OBJECTION! Freeman lost to Tina Freakin’ Armstrong!!

Yeah, in 2002. Now he has HL2 behind him, and his name is more out there because of that. This is Gordon’s match to lose. If Phoenix beats him, then I can’t see Gordon beating anyone, and GFNW would be much stronger than I had thought, but for now, Freeman wins, the universe implodes, and everyone is left feeling violated….most likely by EC.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Gordon Freeman will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Phoenix: 39% - Gordon: 61%



Ulti’s Analysis

As badly as I want Phoenix to win this, his chances are grim. His lone shot is that he's equal to KOAC 2005 and that Gordon hasn't boosted AT ALL from Half-Life 2 (KOAC beats the old fodder Gordons in stats).

The first note isn't so hard to pull off, but Gordon not boosting at all from HL2? Phoenix literally needs to get more votes than copies of his game sold to win this. I'm not holding my breath, but damn if I didn't wish I were losing a point more than here.

Prediction: Gordon with 63.33%



HM’s Analysis

This match has been the subject of much debate for absolutely no reason whatsoever. There are a few vocal Phoenix Wright supporters and as a result, this match is actually anticipated to be something good. Well, I can safely say that the only thing good about this will be shutting up everyone on the Phoenix Wright bandwagon -- they’re dreadfully annoying.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/2/2006 7:39:32 PM | message detail
Gordon Freeman has a history in these contests of never being able to win a match, despite being in the contest since 2002. This has gained him the reputation of a loser who just cannot win a match no matter who he is placed against. His opponents? Tina Armstrong (2002), Max Payne (2003), Sam Fisher (2004), and Leon Kennedy (2005) – out of these matches, which one of them looks out of place? Tina Armstrong back in 2002! Are the others completely understandable and even expected? Yes, I think so. That means that Freeman has only had one match throughout this contest history where he was expected to win and didn’t. Regardless of this fact, people insist that he has lost to the worst of characters in these contests and therefore cannot beat absolute fodder like Phoenix Wright.

But let’s check out what Phoenix Wright has going for him. Is it the measly 50,000 copies his game has sold? Perhaps the generic looking anime design? Maybe the fact he has some absurd “Objection!” fad behind him. These all sound like reasons to win, right? Yeah…no. Phoenix Wright is only being given a chance in this match because Gordon Freeman has never won – a dumb reason if I have ever heard one.

Freeman should take care of Phoenix Wright without much trouble here. He may be losing after the first minute update and possibly the second five minute update, but that will be it. If he isn’t losing then, this match will just get uglier as time goes by. Phoenix’s best time is going to be around the board vote, and if he cannot get a big lead there then his chances at winning will be gone – not like he ever had a chance to begin with.

Gordon is looking very good with Half-Life 2 in his corner – the same HL2 that allowed him to put up 40% on Leon Kennedy – and it only helps that he is sporting the Half-Life symbol in his picture once again. Expect this one to not even be close.

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: Gordon Freeman

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: Gordon Freeman – 60% ; Phoenix Wright – 40%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: Gordon Freeman



Yoblazer’s Analysis

I want to write a long piece about how this will be one of the most historic matches and days in Board 8 history, but I'm pretty dog on tired (and I'm probably not even good enough to make it readable), so I'll delve straight into the match itself.

The extremely well-received Phoenix Wright is one of very few contest entrants to have never appeared on a home console. Other than the charismatic Wright, the only characters who share this honor (off the top of my head, anyway) are Soma Cruz and those Golden Sun guys from 2003. Without any Internet fads on his side, it's perfectly logical to assume that Phoenix would be weaker than all three of them. He stars in only one game, and that game has only sold about 50,000 copies since its release in the US. As for the various Internet fads, I doubt they'll help Phoenix much at all. The Objection site is absolutely nothing compared to AYB, and we've all seen how strong CATS is these last four years. I believe they have been overhyped and exaggerated, and I doubt they'll do much to help Phoenix. All in all, the lawyer's resume seems terrible if one wants to actually win a match, but when your opponent is Mr. Board 8, you're going to get support whether you want it or not.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/2/2006 7:40:32 PM | message detail
Gordon Freeman is a beautiful man. Four times he has been cast down, and, like a Phoenix rising from the ashes, four times he has risen... wait, better not get carried away. Anyway, the main argument against Gordon is that his performance against Leon Kennedy last year was a fluke, and that his hilariously bad contest history will get the better of him yet again. Personally, I think this argument is a blissfully ignorant one. Isn't it convenient that Gordon's lone "fluke" of an impressive performance comes on the heels of his first game in over six years (and only his second game ever)? Folks, Half-Life 2 was big. It was massively hyped and anticipated, sold millions of copies, and was hailed by gamers and critics alike as one of the great games of this era. Hell, it even did fairly decently in the Game of the Year polls (a hell of a lot better than PW did, anyway). Don't many people argue that Crono, Magus, and Frog would get stronger if a new Chrono Trigger were released? Wouldn't you think Alucard would boost if a big new Castlevania game released with him as the star? Why should Gordon and Half-Life 2 be an exception? He's stronger now than in years past, and even if he's lost some of his 2005 sizzle, he should still have enough to win this match. Universe over. Thank god I was able to get ahold of The Little Mermaid a day early.

My prediction: Gordon Freeman def. Phoenix Wright (62-38)



Lopen’s Analysis

Let not the 2005 stats fool you. Gordon Freeman is fodder. There was no massive Half Life 2 boost. No no. Let me tell you why I think Gordon Freeman looked so good last year.

It was the first time he faced an opponent who didn't suck.

Now try this on for size. I'm telling you Gordon Freeman has an odd fanbase. He's got a highly devoted little core out there… and then he struggles to get any more votes against anything. So that means he can still put impressive numbers against Leon Kennedy, but he'd still choke against the likes of Lloyd Irving, for example. Put Freeman against Link, and I think he gets another "massive HL2 boost", if you catch my drift. "WOW GUYZ, LOOK, HE GOT 28% ON LINK!"

But, even though I don't buy Gordon Freeman is anything more than fodder, even after Half Life 2... his opponent is… Phoenix Wright. Some dude from some game about lawyers that you can't even try to find in stores. Gordon's bad, but Phoenix is worse!

Lopen's prediction: Gordon Freeman with 53.24%



KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

PHOENIX WRIGHT

"OBJECTION!"

N/A

Move over, Tales of Symphonia, King of All Cosmos, Manny Calavera, and Shadow of the Colossus! There's a new, rabid Board 8 fad in town, and he goes by the name of Phoenix Wright! With big thanks in part to his cult classic game that has captivated the Board's hearts and minds, Phoenix Wright not only makes his debut in the GameFAQs Contests, but does so in the 32 male field -- as a 4 seed. That shows he has fans outside of Board 8 that nominated him. And he has a fad going for him as well, which is nice! Wow...

...he's still going to be fodder of the worst kind. WOO PHOENIX

Of course, for him it kinda helps that he's facing...

GORDON FREEMAN

"..."

Summer 2002 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 53rd Place [11.31%]

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 53rd Place [15.35%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 54th Place [13.40%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 40th Place [20.88%]
Master Moltar | Posted 10/2/2006 7:41:08 PM | message detail
Look at his quote. Look at his contest history. There's a reason why we say GFNW, but this only tells a part of the story. He not only loses, he loses to the most pathetic of competition (yet always breaks 40%). If that holds true here, he, again, has no chance.

Should I believe in superstition? In the GameFAQs Contests? Uh...I can't believe I'm seriously asking myself this! WOO GORDON

Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

Phoenix Wright: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (DS)
Gordon Freeman: N/A

Upcoming Releases

Phoenix Wright: Phoenix Wright: Justice for All (DS)
Gordon Freeman: N/A

Y'know, The Prince of Persia would have been much better here. He would have caused considerable debate on if he could have beaten Gordon (because let's face it, a ton of people think he'll be fodder of the worst kind). He's a standard human character that GF has been used to facing. We'd get to see him in a winnable match (and honestly, wouldn't Kirby/PW be a fun match too?).

But most importantly, THE UNIVERSE GETS TO NOT IMPLODE! Bah. I just...*can't* see much of a way for PW to win this. I'd take Sam Fisher, Max Payne, and even Tina Armstrong to beat Wright. I can't see 40% on Leon Kennedy from him, I can't see much of anything from him. I kinda expected him to be 8 seed fodder here, but now he gets to kill us all.

Objection, you say? OVERRULED.

Karma Hunter's Vote: The Universe! (aka PW)

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Gordon Freeman with 57.72%.

This could end up ANYWHERE, so I just went with a middle percentage.

Upset Potential: 25%

UPSET ALERT UPSET ALERT UPSET ALERT


You'd think I'd give Gordon Freeman a free pass???

There are plenty of somewhat feasible arguments for Wright, ranging from Gordon being overrated in 2k5 to the fad helping him out a la CATS to his games being much more popular on GameFAQs than the real world. Or maybe his picture is just cooler. But y'know what? That's inconsequential.

if PW wins, it's for one reason: Gordon. Freeman. NEVER. Wins. Period.

Upset Prediction: Phoenix Wright with 53.48%



Guest’s Analysis - warning_crazy

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1114367



Crew Consensus: Lots of Gordon confidence...that's a scary thought.
longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/2/2006 7:42:04 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2243

This poll is pretty worthless though. Think about it, of course PW is gonna get raped here. Its got Mario games to go against, its got Castlevania, Advance Wars, Nintendogs, its got every big time main-stream big hit DS game you can name against it.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/2/2006 7:47:06 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2243

I'm glad somebody posted this -- I was planning to until I saw it already done. AGAIN, for PW to win, his fad has to be noticably larger than CATS's and take some of the joke-votes Gordon will get for his GFNW schtick...which is rather unlikely. His site isn't any more visited than HBO or diabloii.net if I remember correctly, so I'm not scared of linkage. KoaC sold many more copies on a much more popular system, and I bet his games would do better in a contest-setting here than PW:AA.


And forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that poll taken before the fad and during the first shipment?

Fad as in the website used today? I think so, but I believe there was a similar Japanese site many of us on the board used before then, and even if it was after that poll I know PW:AA was a hhuuggee board creation before the poll, and I'll direct you to this if you doubt it for a second:

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/detail.php?board=8&topic=30859304&message=337978592

I'm not sure if the retro-10's were before the poll or not, but I'm pretty sure its original rating was...so, if I'm right (help confirm or deny this Ulti), then there ya go. As for during the first shipment, I have no idea.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/2/2006 7:48:17 PM | message detail
oh, and warning_crazy's analysis = best analysis ever.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/2/2006 7:48:40 PM | message detail
This poll is pretty worthless though. Think about it, of course PW is gonna get raped here. Its got Mario games to go against, its got Castlevania, Advance Wars, Nintendogs, its got every big time main-stream big hit DS game you can name against it.

HL2 would only possibly lose to MK:DS out of all the games in that poll, and that's a tough stretch to make considering HL1 got 43% on Metroid Prime.
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Samurai7 | Posted 10/2/2006 7:49:28 PM | message detail
This poll is pretty worthless though. Think about it, of course PW is gonna get raped here. Its got Mario games to go against, its got Castlevania, Advance Wars, Nintendogs, its got every big time main-stream big hit DS game you can name against it.

Yeah thats not a fair comparison. I mean Soma was really so powerful despite Castlevanias poor showing there. It was only because Mario games were present >.>
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metroid13 | Posted 10/2/2006 7:50:54 PM | message detail
Actually, Gordon has Episode One as a notable release since last appearance, and Episode Two as an upcoming.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/2/2006 7:51:06 PM | message detail
Yeah thats not a fair comparison. I mean Soma was really so powerful despite Castlevanias poor showing there. It was only because Mario games were present >.>

...to be fair I would take Soma over Phoenix Wright...
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Yesmar | Posted 10/2/2006 7:51:14 PM | message detail
Extreme Scenarios: Phoenix Wright Vs. Gordon Freeman

Scenario 1:


Phoenix Wright with 51.06%

Now I know I've been vocal about Phoenix having no shot of winning this match, but I will admit that we have never seen Phoenix before, so anything's possible when it comes to new characters. Maybe Phoenix is as popular as CATS. I doubt it, but who knows. Combine that with a Gordon Freeman who might have dropped a little due to Half-Life 2 wearing off and you get the following result.

Scenario 2:

Gordon Freeman with 82.44%

Or, Gordon's numbers from 2K5 are entirely legit, and Phoenix Wright is ultra-Tanner level fodder. Hey, anything's possible.

It will be very interesting to see how this match turns out.
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Samurai7 | Posted 10/2/2006 7:51:56 PM | message detail

...to be fair I would take Soma over Phoenix Wright...


As would anyone with intelligence.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/2/2006 7:52:13 PM | message detail
Not to mention HL2 was ported to the Xbox last year after his match, too.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/2/2006 7:52:26 PM | message detail
You guys missed my point there entirely <_<
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/2/2006 7:53:23 PM | message detail
Cut off about 5% from Freeman's side and give it Phoenix!

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Samurai7 | Posted 10/2/2006 7:53:48 PM | message detail
You guys missed my point there entirely <_<

I'm pretty sure I got it. My point was Castlevania still out did it and it had the same tough competition that PW did. Soma was a bomb.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/2/2006 7:55:02 PM | message detail
Soma also went up against Solid Snake. Solid ****ing Snake. One of the Noble 9. Perhaps an increasing Snake in the future. Hell, throw in some Konami SFF sauce in there if you want.
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WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa
I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you?
metroid13 | Posted 10/2/2006 7:55:02 PM | message detail
If I'm not mistaken, HL2 for XBox tanked.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/2/2006 7:55:31 PM | message detail
Though, Snake sharing a LARGE fanbase with a handheld fanbase is like.. weird.
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