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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 374

THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/2/2006 2:49:57 PM | message detail
I can't see Yoshi being weaker than Luigi.

Only because he beat him two years ago. I saw no indications that Yoshi is decisively ahead of Luigi. Riku lands at 28.06% on BL if Yoshi = Luigi, ahead of Leon Kennedy, Vivi, Rikku, and possibly Yuna. He gets 57% on his 2005 self. That seems like an awfully big boost, all things considered.

And if you think his boost really was that big, I don't know why you wouldn't expect Sora to boost over Yoshi with KHII.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/2/2006 2:50:23 PM | message detail
This is appalling. Why is Tingle getting so many votes? Nobody has even played OoT. It's an old, stupid, green blob, and it's going even in the day vote with the best character ever. GO TO HELL, ZELDAFAQs~!
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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/2/2006 2:50:34 PM | message detail
This year, Sora vs. Yoshi wouldn't be a problem. Sora, no trouble. Last year, I'd be a bit worried.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/2/2006 2:53:51 PM | message detail
Nobody has even played OoT.

Fortunately, Tingle is not from OoT, but rather from its far superior successor MM.
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Xuxon | Posted 10/2/2006 2:54:34 PM | message detail
I think Sora's true value last year was between Yoshi and Leon. It's a sizeable gap, and that's what makes the most sense to me. I see Alucard being about even with Frog.
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NewLib | Posted 10/2/2006 2:55:16 PM | message detail
This has convinced me. Epona would be kick half of the female brackets teeth in.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/2/2006 2:55:23 PM | message detail
Luigi is overrated by Sonic before I see him stronger than Yoshi...it's just that simple to me. In any case, I don't think Riku's getting enough credit here, but that's just me.
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H__RR____H | Posted 10/2/2006 2:55:27 PM | message detail
This is appalling. Why is Tingle getting so many votes? Nobody has even played OoT. It's an old, stupid, green blob, and it's going even in the day vote with the best character ever. GO TO HELL, ZELDAFAQs~!

HAW HAW ON VARIOUS LEVELS FROM YOU REFERRING TO A CLASSIC MISTAKE ON YOUR BEHALF TO TINGLE NOT EVEN BEING IN LOZOOT NOT TO MENTION YOUR BLATANT FANBOYISM IN EVERY POST YOU MAKE AND THE ANGER IT BRINGS YOU WHEN MATCH RESULTS GO AGAINST YOUR LIKING SO ON AND SO FORTH HAW
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/2/2006 2:56:54 PM | message detail
Tingle is rocking right now. It's awesome to see him hang tough in there with the after school vote of Kingdom Hearts. ZeldaFAQs is alive and well~!


When you get into the mid-60s, a percent means more than it does when you're in the 50s, but the fact that he exceeded it at all (and you're talking about a percent better at a value that you don't think he's at anyway, so it means much more than just that) when few expected him to means something.

It means nothing at all. There is no conclusive evidence that can be made to prove or disprove the whole Devil Division being overrated. He performed a percent better than the projections put him at. You do realize that his boost from DMC3: SE doesn't have to be only 2%, right? There are a number of factors that can contribute that 1.5% overperformance at his current expectation. Claiming that is just support to prove that the Devil Division was overrated is absolutely absurd.


Yeah, it's not like I was expecting supporters of the overrated theory to concede when something goes above and beyond expectations. THAT would be a shock!!

You shouldn't have expected such a thing, no. I would hope no one would be silly enough to jump to conclusions on a match that was hardly conclusive. We will not know anything about that division until Round 2.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/2/2006 2:58:20 PM | message detail
I can't see Yoshi being weaker than Luigi.

Man, I still can't believe people refuse to entertain the idea of Luigi being indirectly stronger than Yoshi. Hopefully this year puts that to rest.

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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/2/2006 2:58:24 PM | message detail
...Unless Vincent beats Ganon with > 52.5%!

I went there. >_>
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Xuxon | Posted 10/2/2006 2:58:51 PM | message detail
I'll give Riku credit for what he got. A predictable increase that puts him decisively above Frog now, and showing that Yoshi isn't a threat to Dante.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/2/2006 3:00:02 PM | message detail
IMPLICATIONS TIME!

Sonic somehow gets to the battle royale, beats out Link, Cloud, Sephiroth and Samus and faces Mario, losing with 53.5%.

Sonic gets into SSB, then him and Mario meet again in 2k7. Result?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/2/2006 3:00:34 PM | message detail
You shouldn't have expected such a thing, no. I would hope no one would be silly enough to jump to conclusions on a match that was hardly conclusive.

"This should never come into question, but we may be able to get a better idea of if Dante was overrated because of Vincent last year and/or if Hayabusa was underrated enough by Zero’s match against Mario – some silly people here believe in Mario/Zero SFF! This has a pretty solid range of about 58% - 62%, I believe, so it may be hard to determine if it was one factor or another unless it hits one of the extremes."

Yeah, I'd hate to be the loser who said something like this!
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/2/2006 3:00:45 PM | message detail
Ganon could beat Vincent with 54% and it doesn't prove that the division was overrated. You won't get an idea of that until one of them (GANONDORF!) faces Sonic in Round 2.

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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/2/2006 3:01:36 PM | message detail
Vince > Ganon = Lock
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/2/2006 3:02:04 PM | message detail
Sonic somehow gets to the battle royale, beats out Link, Cloud, Sephiroth and Samus and faces Mario, losing with 53.5%.

We call an immediate end to the contests in order to forever immortalize the awesomeness we have just witnessed.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/2/2006 3:02:14 PM | message detail
Vince > Ganon = Lock

Uh huh.

And Cloud is going to beat Link!

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Janus5000 | Posted 10/2/2006 3:02:27 PM | message detail
There's no way Locke's as strong as Ganondorf.
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Xuxon | Posted 10/2/2006 3:03:06 PM | message detail
Ganon could beat Vincent with 54%

No need to go further. Ganon couldn't do that.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/2/2006 3:03:11 PM | message detail
And Cloud is going to beat Link!

And now you can never deny you said it!
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therealmnm | Posted 10/2/2006 3:03:40 PM | message detail
Hmmm, so Sora's getting what I was expected off of Tingle. I don't know why anyone would expect much more. Sure Tingle is fodder, but I still didn't expect Sora to totally blow him out. No knock on Sora, and I'm not saying he gets a significant amount of hate votes or anything, but I don't think Kingdom Hearts is a series that everyone is a fan of to some degree. I don't know what the playership percentage is for KH, but it's not something that everybody likes. It's probably the reason why Harvest Moon was able to put up a good showing. Tingle probably got the default vote from people who simply aren't KH fans. I'd expect somebody universal like Knuckles to beat Tingle worse.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/2/2006 3:03:57 PM | message detail
No need to go further. Ganon couldn't do that.

He actually could without much trouble if he boosted a bit from a certain value that he may be at!

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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/2/2006 3:04:04 PM | message detail
ODDS TIME!

Vegas Odds for the following outcomes, IYP. (And don't be a clever dick and use the BOP X_x)

You can give the odds of the opposite outcome, if you wish.

Sonic > Male Bracket
Vince > Sonic
Snake > Megaman
Sephiroth > Cloud in royale
Cloud > Link in royale
PoP evading a doubling from Kirby
Dante > Yoshi
Jill > Peach
Kratos > Ryu
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/2/2006 3:04:27 PM | message detail
There's no way Locke's as strong as Ganondorf.

FF6 shenanigans? LOL!
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/2/2006 3:04:47 PM | message detail

And now you can never deny you said it!


Too bad I said it in a sarcastic manner because no such thing is ever going to happen!!

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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/2/2006 3:05:05 PM | message detail
We call an immediate end to the contests in order to forever immortalize the awesomeness we have just witnessed.

XD

I just used that as a far-fetched example to get a match between Sonic and Mario before SSB came out.
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Lopen | Posted 10/2/2006 3:05:34 PM | message detail
Vincent > Ganondorf with more than 54%... and then I laugh at HM for saying "if you think of picking Dante > Ganondorf, you're out of your mind!". And I laugh... and I laugh!! Oh yes!

And that's my Dante promoting post of the topic! Good night, everybody!
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/2/2006 3:05:45 PM | message detail
I'd expect somebody universal like Knuckles to beat Tingle worse.

I'd expect Knuckles to do no better than Sora is doing today, myself!

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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/2/2006 3:06:48 PM | message detail
Knuckles > Link due to rSFF.

You heard it here first! Link has much more universal support!
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/2/2006 3:07:30 PM | message detail
No one is capable of getting rSFF, SFF, or any other factor against Link, sir!!
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trannyscience | Posted 10/2/2006 3:07:58 PM | message detail
Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus Magus
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/2/2006 3:08:25 PM | message detail
There's no way Locke's as strong as Ganondorf.

Because this is not a just world.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/2/2006 3:08:53 PM | message detail
Sonic > Male Bracket -- 25:1

Vince > Sonic -- 75:1

Snake > Megaman -- 10:1

Sephiroth > Cloud in royale -- 5:1

Cloud > Link in royale -- 5:1

PoP evading a doubling from Kirby -- 100:1

Dante > Yoshi -- 1:1

Jill > Peach -- 50:1

Kratos > Ryu -- 50:1

By my gut.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 10/2/2006 3:09:01 PM | message detail
Sonic > Male Bracket

No. Just no. 10000000/1.

Vince > Sonic

Slight, slight chance. 1000/1.

Snake > Megaman

Hey, it could happen! 100/1

Sephiroth > Cloud in royale

In a Battle Royale format, anything goes! 25/1.

Cloud > Link in royale

Uhhh......10/1. Anythings possible folks.

PoP evading a doubling from Kirby

Thats totally gonna happen. 5/1.

Dante > Yosh

Thats pretty much gonna happen. 1/1

Jill > Peach

MAH UPSET PICK LOL! 1/1!

Kratos > Ryu

Maybe God of War 2 powered Kratos, but I'm not liking his chances, considering Ryu would probably get 55% on Alucard.

500/1
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/2/2006 3:09:13 PM | message detail
We went over what happened with Magus last night, tranny! Geez!

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trannyscience | Posted 10/2/2006 3:10:13 PM | message detail
yeah -- he got 35% on Link!
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/2/2006 3:11:00 PM | message detail
Because in 2003 we had a bunch of heathens running around that Link had to convert between 2003 and 2004!

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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/2/2006 3:12:54 PM | message detail
PoP/Kirby = Magus/Knuckles.

Book it.

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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 10/2/2006 3:13:22 PM | message detail
Oooh, Vegas odds

Sonic > Male Bracket 15:1
Vince > Sonic 100000000000000000:1 (Ganon gets 20:1)
Snake > Megaman 15:1
Sephiroth > Cloud in royale 20:1
Cloud > Link in royale 50:1
PoP evading a doubling from Kirby 10:1
Dante > Yoshi 2:1
Jill > Peach 5:1
Kratos > Ryu 50:1
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NewLib | Posted 10/2/2006 3:14:16 PM | message detail
I dont even care who wins Vincent/GDorf anymore, I just want one side to get 53%+ just to make the side defending them look so incredibly foolish by declaring their pick TEH LOCK.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/2/2006 3:15:08 PM | message detail
I dont even care who wins Vincent/GDorf anymore, I just want one side to get 53%+ just to make the side defending them look so incredibly foolish by declaring their pick TEH LOCK.

...in that case, you should be hoping for a 50/50 match so that both sides look dumb.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/2/2006 3:15:16 PM | message detail
Check out this AWESOME FOUR-PACK

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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/2/2006 3:15:54 PM | message detail
Tingle dominates that four pack!

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/2/2006 3:15:59 PM | message detail
Tingle > Amy without too much trouble there. Kamek would be worthless, sadly.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/2/2006 3:16:13 PM | message detail
Tingle > Amy Rose.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/2/2006 3:16:26 PM | message detail
For the record, I don't think V/G is by any means a lock. I just like picking Vincent here.
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Xuxon | Posted 10/2/2006 3:17:12 PM | message detail
Sonic > Male Bracket -- 25:1

No freakin way. 1000:1

Vince > Sonic -- 75:1

Seems a bit more likely than that. 30:1

Snake > Megaman -- 10:1

That sounds good.

Sephiroth > Cloud in royale -- 5:1

I like that.

Cloud > Link in royale -- 5:1

Less than that, but still possible. 10:1

PoP evading a doubling from Kirby -- 100:1

This is pretty damn likely. 1:1.

Dante > Yoshi -- 1:1

Yoshi doesn't have much of a shot anymore. 1:5.

Jill > Peach -- 50:1

Sheena > Peach. But I'll be nice and say... 4:1.

Kratos > Ryu -- 50:1

Ok.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/2/2006 3:17:57 PM | message detail
I laugh at those thinking Cloud over Link is a possibility!!

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