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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 373

Draco1214 | Posted 10/1/2006 3:16:10 PM | message detail
Zero has to impress against Luigi to make me have more faith in him.
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Character Battle V Score - 19/19 points
Current Prediction - Dante vs. Ryu Hayabusa
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/1/2006 3:25:51 PM | message detail
FACT/FICTION: Phoenix will lead for the first 1-5 minutes of the poll, after which Gordon goes on to get 55%-57% on him.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2006 3:28:13 PM | message detail
FICTION.

I can see Phoenix holding the lead for the whole first hour. LUE likes him too.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2006 3:29:19 PM | message detail
And the ONLY thing that will make me regain faith in my bracket is if Ganondorf destroys Vincent and Zero destroys Luigi. That would imply either a massive Dante gain, massive Ryu drop, or a combination of the two.

TuRtLe
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MasterMoltar | Posted 10/1/2006 3:35:13 PM | message detail
Believe or not, but Freeman's board vote is actually pretty strong. His morning/day vote is complete crap though. Still, bad enough to lose it to Pheonix? I dunno.
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/1/2006 3:37:17 PM | message detail
This board is absolutely insane for Phoenix Wright. I'll be shocked if Phoenix fails to win the board vote.
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Character Battle V Score - 19/19 points
Current Prediction - Dante vs. Ryu Hayabusa
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2006 3:40:30 PM | message detail
I'm jacked for that match though. I took Phoenix in my bracket, but looking back, Gordon's 2k5 strength is just too much for Phoenix to beat.

Though if Phoenix does win, I'll be one happy camper.

TuRtLe
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transience | Posted 10/1/2006 3:41:25 PM | message detail
I'm rather apathetic, really. it's two weak characters in a one point match.

though I'm interested to see how it plays out.. just for the two fads' sake.
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/1/2006 3:42:21 PM | message detail
I don't think I'll be able to stop laughing because this is the easiest match Gordon Freeman will ever get. If he bombs this, I highly doubt he can win anything.
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Character Battle V Score - 19/19 points
Current Prediction - Dante vs. Ryu Hayabusa
transience | Posted 10/1/2006 3:43:43 PM | message detail
honestly, how is GF/PW any different than, say, Joanna/Cortana?
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/1/2006 3:44:06 PM | message detail
Yeah, I don't have much confidence in Phoenix Wright. Though if he wins, I'd mark out.
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Character Battle V Score - 19/19 points
Current Prediction - Dante vs. Ryu Hayabusa
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2006 3:44:56 PM | message detail
From transience Posted 10/1/2006 6:43:43 PM
honestly, how is GF/PW any different than, say, Joanna/Cortana?

Joanna didn't lose to Tina Armstrong >_>

TuRtLe
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/1/2006 3:45:05 PM | message detail
At least for me, I actually care about Phoenix Wright and Gordon Freeman. I don't really care too much about Joanna and Cortana.
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Character Battle V Score - 19/19 points
Current Prediction - Dante vs. Ryu Hayabusa
Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/1/2006 3:45:40 PM | message detail
honestly, how is GF/PW any different than, say, Joanna/Cortana?


As far as how important contest-wise, there is not a difference. It's one point. But Phoenix has a lot of fans here while nobody like Cortana or Joanna. Plus, Gordon Freeman is the favorite to win this match so regardless of the outcome, it should be a fun day on the board.

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red sox 777 | Posted 10/1/2006 3:46:19 PM | message detail
I wouldn't be surprised if Phoenix had like 90% after a minute, lost the lead after an hour, and then won the day vote because Gordon's day vote also sucks and Phoenix's picture is more appealing. And I'm still not sure why I picked Phoenix to win when I've viewed Gordon as the more likely winner since I first looked at the bracket, although I have 80 or so points worth of upsets, so this one match won't really matter.
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transience | Posted 10/1/2006 3:47:19 PM | message detail
heh, I actually expect the opposite - a lot of fighting and whining. well, assuming Gordon wins that is. there's already a bunch of really arrogant and annoying people boasting how Gordon Freeman is going to own Phoenix Wright. it's, like, Gordon Freeman, man.
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/1/2006 3:49:04 PM | message detail
It's not going to be much better if Phoenix wins. It'll be just as bad as GTA vs. Warcraft.
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Character Battle V Score - 19/19 points
Current Prediction - Dante vs. Ryu Hayabusa
transience | Posted 10/1/2006 3:49:58 PM | message detail
yep, agreed 100%. the board is just waiting to explode over that match. if it gets close.. oh god. I'm gonna make sure to get several screenshots of the board that day.
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transience | Posted 10/1/2006 3:52:17 PM | message detail
oh, and no way does Phoenix get 90% after a minute. 60% maybe, but 90's nuts. the board may be vocal in its PW love, but a lot of people are apathetic and/or annoyed by its rabid fanbase.
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/1/2006 3:52:27 PM | message detail
There are only two ways this match can go. It can either be another GTA vs. Warcraft or another Kerrigan vs. Vincent.
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Character Battle V Score - 19/19 points
Current Prediction - Dante vs. Ryu Hayabusa
Draco1214 | Posted 10/1/2006 3:53:21 PM | message detail
I could see Phoenix pushing 70-75% after the first minute or so.
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Character Battle V Score - 19/19 points
Current Prediction - Dante vs. Ryu Hayabusa
transience | Posted 10/1/2006 3:53:53 PM | message detail
I highly doubt it's going to be 80-20. I don't think GF could get 80% on Tanner.

if Phoenix Wins, check out his bracket percentage. remember Leon's last year? yeah.
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/1/2006 3:55:36 PM | message detail
It would rival Halo vs. Starcraft as the worst prediction percentage for a round 1 match.

Unless something crazy happens and Phoenix turns out to be the bracket favorite.
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Character Battle V Score - 19/19 points
Current Prediction - Dante vs. Ryu Hayabusa
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2006 3:56:42 PM | message detail
If Phoenix wins, this may be the first "upset" of the match in terms of prediction percent.

TuRtLe
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2006 3:57:45 PM | message detail
And imagine if this math was a toe-to-toe slobberknocker like Master Chief/Frog or MegaMan/Sonic.

TuRtLe
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creativename | Posted 10/1/2006 3:59:48 PM | message detail
If Phoenix wins, his backers will have every right to gloat. But I still maintain they're pretty nutty.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2006 4:01:34 PM | message detail
I won't be gloating.

I only have him because I was too lazy to bother changing to Gordon once my logic kicked in.

Though now that I think about it, Gordon really is a pretty forgetable person, so perhaps he's lost a good chunk of his HL2 boost.

TuRtLe
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/1/2006 4:01:38 PM | message detail
I'd just be happy that my bracket remains perfect, I remain on the leaderboard, and that the main of one of my favorite games got to win a match.
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Character Battle V Score - 19/19 points
Current Prediction - Dante vs. Ryu Hayabusa
dragoontheguy | Posted 10/1/2006 4:04:23 PM | message detail
If Phoenix wins, his backers will have every right to gloat. But I still maintain they're pretty nutty.

Agreed. The objection website is not nearly as big as PW supporters make it out to be, the fad was very short lived, and his game hadn't even sold 50k copies as of last july (only about 42k I believe)... it might be at 60k now, depending on how many new units were shipped in the reissue of the game. I just don't think anything adds up that would lead me to believe PW has any chance of winning. He seems like another kerrigan to me, except weaker.

Not saying he's a bad character, but in terms of him having any sort of contest strength... I severely doubt it.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/1/2006 4:43:30 PM | message detail
Match XXI: (1) Sora vs. (8) Tingle

Contest History

Sora


Summer 2003
Lost to Aeris Gainsborough, 33.34% - 66.66%
Ranked: 39th

Summer 2004
Defeated HK-47, 65.55% - 34.45%
Defeated Ryu Hayabusa, 61.72% - 38.28%
Lost to Samus Aran, 34.15% - 65.85%
Ranked: 13th

Summer 2005
Defeated Agent 47, 70.73% - 29.27%
Defeated Alucard Tepes, 55.36% - 44.64%
Lost to Solid Snake, 34.74% - 65.26%
Ranked: 30th

Tingle

No Previous Contest Matches

Analysis:

Sora is from the Kingdom Hearts series. When Sora first made it to the contest he was SFF by Aeris so he easily beating Ryu was a huge surprise. Last year he was in a debated match against Alucard and with the day vote he was able to go from 50/50 to breaking 55%. Tingle is from the Legend of Zelda series. He sells maps to Link and is much hated among Zelda fans, but can being from the strongest series save him from being total fodder?

Who else was surprised that Sora got a 1 seed over Mega Man? Kingdom Hearts II must still have been fresh in people’s mind; too bad Sora’s path is practically cut a dry. Sora should have no problem beating one of the most hated characters ever, but the question comes to by how much. I can see Sora breaking 85% and I also see him failing to break 70%, it all depends on how much Zelda fans will vote for Tingle despite hating him. If Tingle was up against a total nobody I could see him overperforming, but since Sora is relatively known he is probably going to be beaten down.

We won’t know whether Sora was underrated last year and how much Kingdom Hearts 2 helped him until next round, but his path is pretty much set in stone. Like I said I can see Sora scoring anywhere from 85%-70% in this match. We’ll have to see whether or not Zelda fans will vote for anything from the series.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Sora over Tingle

charmander6000’s Prediction: Sora wins, 76.56% - 23.44%

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Gaddswell | Posted 10/1/2006 5:40:21 PM | message detail
Well, Dante's percentage keeps dropping slightly with every update. Anyone think that Ryu can manage to get over 35%?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/1/2006 5:43:42 PM | message detail
If he does, the victory will be purely moral...no, I can't even go that far. I expected Ryu to at least bring the percentage down to around my prediction by this time.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/1/2006 5:45:17 PM | message detail
Man, I love how people keep trying to justify the Devil Division being overrated in spite of what's happening here. You guys are unbelievable sometimes. "It's SFF!" "Oh, Dante just boosted again, over and beyond even his 2005 value!"

Gimme a break, guys. I suppose when Vincent beats Ganondorf, you'll just say that Samus didn't SFF him, and the Devil Division is still overrated, eh?
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/1/2006 5:48:49 PM | message detail
Gimme a break, guys. I suppose when Vincent beats Ganondorf, you'll just say that Samus didn't SFF him, and the Devil Division is still overrated, eh?

And I suppose that when Ganon beats Vincent, you'll just say it was all SFF from Samus and the Devil Division isn't overrated at all, eh?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/1/2006 5:51:00 PM | message detail
No, if and when Vincent beats Ganondorf it means that the Devil Division wasn't overrated all along, and DoC provided Vinnie with a massive boost that will allow him to take down Sonic next round! After all, we have to go with the interpretation that makes Ganon look good.

I was calling for a touch of SFF before this, and would still take Zero over Dante due to that. However, I really don't buy DMC3: SE helping out this much, expect Zero to roll over his fourpack at this point, and thus this lends itself to the DD being gauged correctly more easily than not.

Though I have the feeling that no matter what Dante would have gotten here it would've been twisted to downplay the Devil Division. 80% on Hayabusa? Ha! Everyone knows that Zero rSFFed Mario and this is *totally* obvious and severe SFF!!!
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/1/2006 6:11:19 PM | message detail
Phoenix has a lot of fans here while nobody like Cortana or Joanna.

I would bet good money that Joanna beats Phoenix with 55+%, and Cortana would certainly have a shot to beat him too.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 10/1/2006 6:12:25 PM | message detail
I would bet good money that Joanna beats Phoenix with 55+%, and Cortana would certainly have a shot to beat him too.


But definitely not on this board which is what I was referring too. Hence why that match sucked.



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HaRRicH | Posted 10/1/2006 6:22:15 PM | message detail
Point taken -- I misunderstood ya on what you meant by "here" then. Yeah, the board definitely has definitely been split thanks to Phoenix fans.

I really wish this would have been, like, Yuffie/Phoenix instead, just so we could call it another Vincent/Kerrigan...heh.
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It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
Heroic Mario | Posted 10/1/2006 6:23:12 PM | message detail
If you played it, chances are you're going to like Vincent more. Why wouldn't you?

I can't say I really found Vincent to be much better than he was before, or at least as far as my liking of him is concerned. I already held him in pretty high regard and the game didn't really take him to any sort of next level for me, but whatever.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 10/1/2006 6:27:50 PM | message detail
I suppose when Vincent beats Ganondorf, you'll just say that Samus didn't SFF him, and the Devil Division is still overrated, eh?

Vincent beating Ganon or Ganondorf beating Vincent doesn't really prove anything about the Devil Division one way or another. Both sides at this point want to be "right" about the situation; you're not really any different, and today's match hardly provides conclusive evidence to support your whole "The Devil Division wasn't overrated!" because Dante's projected to get 63.72% in this match or something similar. It's not way ahead of the projection right now.

We should be able to find out all about the degree in which the division was or wasn't overrated in Sonic/Ganon (Vincent). We won't really know much of anything before that. Vincent beating Ganon doesn't prove a thing; Ganon beating Vincent doesn't prove a thing.

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/1/2006 6:36:43 PM | message detail
Ya know, somebody mentioned it a while back, but I'm pretty sure that Terra/Kerrigan will be our best sign of whether or not the Devil Division was correct or not last year...no, not their match, but them individually -- we already know their four-pack was right, at least...though that hardly means a thing.
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It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/1/2006 6:39:02 PM | message detail
Vincent could beat Ganondorf with 55%+ and I'd still expect Zelda to crush Terra worse than expected. She hasn't really had the chance to prove it yet, but I imagine the name Zelda does wonders for fodder killing.
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Yesmar | Posted 10/1/2006 6:48:08 PM | message detail
BOLD PREDICTION:

Phoenix never has the lead in any update except for possibly the first one.

Sure, if Phoenix wins, some of his supporters might have a right to gloat, but not most. Most people are just going, "lol Gordon Freeman never wins and I am obsessed with Phoenix Wright like half the board." Nobody that makes picks based on favoritism or superstition should have the privilege to gloat at all.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/1/2006 6:51:26 PM | message detail
I think Draco made the point if GF's 2005 value was fluked and Phoenix's fad helps enough he could ride that along with a great picture factor to victory (pictures should matter a helluva lot more in fodder matches, anyway). Heck, I'd feel considerably worse if Gordon didn't have his HL symbol and Phoenix was in his classic pointing pose.

But honestly, I don't buy any of that. If Gordon loses I'm going to default to superstition and go with GFNW -- EVER. And possibly find religion.
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Tediz247 | Posted 10/1/2006 6:52:47 PM | message detail
That's not really all that bold. Most people believe that Phoenix overwhelmingly takes the board vote, then Freeman takes everything else and never looks back.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/1/2006 6:58:04 PM | message detail
No, I mean in the final completed stats -- yes, I agree Zelda should beat Terra worse than what any stats from last year say.
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It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
HaRRicH | Posted 10/1/2006 7:46:15 PM | message detail
QUICK WITHOUT THINKING: who would be the strongest character in the bracket that you would take Tingle if he faced them?
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Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest.
It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/1/2006 7:48:56 PM | message detail
I can't do that without a bracket in front of me! Uh...Phoenix Wright, on gut instinct (who I don't think will look *that* bad when all this is said and done, so yeah).
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/1/2006 7:49:44 PM | message detail
Let's see, characters I'd take Tingle over with absolute confidence:

Jade
Daisy
Alyx Vance
Carmen Sandiego

...that's it. There are others I would struggle with, though.
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Current Prediction - Sora vs. Tingle
HaRRicH | Posted 10/1/2006 7:49:49 PM | message detail
Too bad for you!
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Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest.
It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....