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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 373

Draco1214 | Posted 9/30/2006 4:30:58 PM | message detail
Taking Luigi in a debated match is like setting yourself up for disappointment. It's like taking an FF6 entity in a debated match.
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Character Battle V Score - 18/18 points
Current Prediction - Riku vs. Yoshi
THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/30/2006 4:31:09 PM | message detail
Who cares about Vincent/Ganon? It's only worth one point...

Well, Sonic/Vincent could be interesting...

And Luigi's problem is that Nintendo decided to make him awol in Mario 64 and Sunshine, and then they turned him into a wuss.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/30/2006 4:32:03 PM | message detail
You know, maybe I'm just crazy, but I don't think we should trust any match involving Frog. He's always all over the board, maybe Riku was underrated last year and was closer to Sora then we all thought.

It would make his boost seem less extreme.

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/30/2006 4:32:33 PM | message detail
The only problem is that we have no idea where Sora was last year.
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Draco1214 | Posted 9/30/2006 4:33:05 PM | message detail
I highly doubt Riku is close to Sora at all.

Sora:Sonic::Riku:Knuckles
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/30/2006 4:34:00 PM | message detail
It's obvious that Luigi and Yoshi share the same fanbase, but SFF implies that we're getting a massive shift toward one or the other...even if we want to suggest that Yoshi was indirectly weaker in that match, it's got to be a helluva lot weaker before I even think of calling that a match riddled with SFF.

Riddled was clearly the wrong word to use there because I don't believe that Yoshi was even weaker indirectly than Luigi in that match. Yoshi getting a definite preference in that match that would otherwise make the two equal in 2004 is hardly a stretch. If Yoshi was weaker in 2004, then why Luigi is where he is now just makes more sense. But anyone going along with this nonsense about Yoshi's floor being Luigi was just asking for confusion after today's match. I'm starting to think most of the Crew somehow went along with that judging from the high 50s/low 60s predictions.

Oh, and Link is the poseur of SFF. Mega Man only took a dive in that match to teach HM a lesson!

Link is just the King of SFF period! Mega Man is nothing but some lame guy who can only SFF characters who he shouldn't share a fanbase with!

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Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 9/30/2006 4:34:25 PM | message detail
Wow Yoshi is really disappointing here. So much for the Nintendo boost.

Also if Sonic loses to some pathetic FF7 side character I will have officially lost all faith in the Gamefaqs community. If you vote for Vincent in that match, you are not a gamer. >_>

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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/30/2006 4:34:38 PM | message detail
Well, Sonic/Vincent could be interesting...

Not when Vincent is losing in round 1!

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Draco1214 | Posted 9/30/2006 4:35:01 PM | message detail
I'll be voting for Vincent if he faces Sonic because I like him better.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/30/2006 4:35:02 PM | message detail
Then Sonic has nothing to worry about until Crono!
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/30/2006 4:35:15 PM | message detail
Wow Yoshi is really disappointing here. So much for the Nintendo boost.

People like this, for example, make me want to stab something. >>

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/30/2006 4:35:46 PM | message detail
And both Riku and Knuckles had odd matches last year where they "exposed" strong CT characters. I dunno, nothing about Frog's matches make any sense. The guy is a complete wildcard, which is why I'd like to have seen him in this bracket somewhere.

Give him Auron's place in that division, or hell, even Sub-Zero's.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/30/2006 4:35:57 PM | message detail
Then Sonic has nothing to worry about until Crono!

Not when Sonic is getting beat by Ganon!

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Kaxon | Posted 9/30/2006 4:37:03 PM | message detail
I've thought Sonic was a bit overrated all along. His match with Mega Man was the first true Icon vs. Icon match we had ever seen (nope, not counting Clinkeroth as a gaming icon).

You're using a weird definition of gaming icon if Link doesn't qualify but Mega Man does.

That right there could have been reason enough for something screwy, but I also have a feeling Mega Man will cave against other iconic or super strong competitors. That's why I feel Mario would kick the crap out of him, and it's also why I'd be too scared to take him over Samus.

We've already seen Mega Man face five other noble niners, and the only one he caved against is Link, so I'm not sure where you're getting your "will cave against other super strong competitors" idea. Maybe Mario would gain some SFF, but I have a hard time imagining Samus could.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/30/2006 4:37:09 PM | message detail
Sonic lose to Ganondorf? Pffft. It's friggin' Sonic, man!

Plus, I'm not seeing any indications of a second Nintendo boost, like some seemed to be predicting. Ganondorf has too much ground to gain!
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KingBartz | Posted 9/30/2006 4:38:05 PM | message detail
Sonic > Crono is a super sexy upset pick that I am taking to town.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/30/2006 4:38:50 PM | message detail
The guy is a complete wildcard

But how? Last year, he seemed pretty normal.
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Riku vs. Yoshi / Bracket: Yoshi / Vote: Yoshi (17/18)
Tomorrow / Bracket: Dante / Vote: Ryu
Karma Hunter | Posted 9/30/2006 4:38:51 PM | message detail
Link is just the King of SFF period! Mega Man is nothing but some lame guy who can only SFF characters who he shouldn't share a fanbase with!

LOOK OUT SAMUS !!
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/30/2006 4:39:23 PM | message detail
Match XX: (2) Dante Sparda vs. (7) Ryu Hayabusa

Contest History

Dante Sparda


Summer 2002
Defeated Q*Bert, 70.01% - 29.99%
Lost to Crono, 33.42% - 66.58%
Ranked: 18th

Summer 2003
Defeated Ryo Hazuki, 77.65% - 22.35%
Lost to Ryu, 45.99% - 54.01%
Ranked: 21st

Summer 2004
Defeated Ratchet, 80.28% - 19.72%
Defeated Tails, 57.40% - 42.60%
Lost to Sonic the Hedgehog, 37.97% - 62.03%
Ranked: 17th

Summer 2005
Defeated Terra Branford, 71.50% - 28.50%
Lost to Vincent Valentine, 46.00% - 54.00%
Ranked: 16th

Ryu Hayabusa

Summer 2004
Defeated Jill Valentine, 50.02% - 49.98%
Lost to Sora, 38.28% - 61.72%
Ranked: 28th

Summer 2005
Lost to Zero, 37.00% - 63.00%
Ranked: 34th

Analysis:

Dante is from the Devil May Cry series. Over the years Dante has performed very well for himself, but usually gets screwed over by bracket placement. Last year what was suppose to be a close match turned into a blowout and he did very well in the most argued match of round 2. Ryu Hayabusa is from the Ninja Gaiden series. In 2k4 he was the favorite of making it out of his 4-pack, but then had the second closest match ever and then lost hard to the underrated Sora. Last year he was screwed in bracket placement, but at least he did respectable against Zero.

Like last year Ryu is screwed by his placement. Dante is up into Zero’s league and Ryu barely put up a fight in that match. This will be the first time that we can test if the Devil Division was overrated last year since Terra and Kerrigan were up against each other and Squall was in a SFF match. I do believe that the Devil Division is overrated because of the AC leak and this will be one of the best matches to test it out because they are both the same seeding apart and have basically the same picture as last year so many factors would be kept at a minimum.

This match is just a stepping stone to the Dante/Yoshi match next round. Right now Yoshi is doing fine, but if Dante could match or even get over what Zero got against Ryu then Yoshi will be in a little trouble. In the end I think Dante will only be able to break 60% on him.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Dante over Ryu Hayabusa

charmander6000’s Prediction: Dante wins, 60.27% - 39.73%

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Kaxon | Posted 9/30/2006 4:39:36 PM | message detail
Who cares about Vincent/Ganon? It's only worth one point...

In the contest that matters, every match is worth 50 points.

>_>
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KingBartz | Posted 9/30/2006 4:41:26 PM | message detail
^^^

AGREE'D
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therealmnm | Posted 9/30/2006 4:42:40 PM | message detail
Give him Auron's place in that division, or hell, even Sub-Zero's.

Master Chief would definitely be setting up for revenge in that match. I'm sure the entire Halo world would be alerted for that match. <_<;
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MarkSmith | Posted 9/30/2006 4:44:32 PM | message detail
Couple of thoughts:

1.) Dante's gonna beat Yoshi, no question

2.) Squall's gonna get damn close to Snake if not beat him outright
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/30/2006 4:45:23 PM | message detail
I dunno, if last year was Frog's true form (lol), then Riku's boost is either too much, or Yoshi/Luigi is a terrible match to judge by.

Frog being funny could help reduce the other two factors.

TuRtLe
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/30/2006 4:45:59 PM | message detail
We don't really have an exact value on Yoshi either way, but it could be more Yoshi/Luigi.
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Riku vs. Yoshi / Bracket: Yoshi / Vote: Yoshi (17/18)
Tomorrow / Bracket: Dante / Vote: Ryu
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/30/2006 4:47:16 PM | message detail
I suppose all will be revealed in the second round.

From a statistical standpoint, Yoshi/Dante and Zero/Kirby are going to give us a LOT of information about last year's stats.

TuRtLe
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/30/2006 4:47:53 PM | message detail
And Sonic/Ganon/Vincent

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/30/2006 4:49:00 PM | message detail
I wouldn't trust the former at all, especially if Dante wins. Snake/Dante may be quite brutal, believe me.
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Draco1214 | Posted 9/30/2006 4:49:42 PM | message detail
If Round 3 is the sprite round, Snake/Dante may just be one of the worst pics of all time.
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Current Prediction - Riku vs. Yoshi
YoboD | Posted 9/30/2006 4:50:03 PM | message detail
So, how does everyone expect Dante to do in his match with Ryu? I'd say a win with 58%.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/30/2006 4:51:03 PM | message detail
You should look out for my wonderful Crew Analysis (tm) to see my thoughts on that!!!
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/30/2006 4:51:16 PM | message detail
Dante with 63%.

That's right!
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MarkSmith | Posted 9/30/2006 4:52:00 PM | message detail
58% sound about right. DMC3 going GH and DMC 3:DA releasing should provide a nice boost.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/30/2006 4:52:54 PM | message detail
If you want Dante to beat Yoshi, he's gonna need a little more than 58% on Hayabusa...
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Tediz247 | Posted 9/30/2006 4:53:04 PM | message detail
I'll say Dante with 60.5%. I don't think Dante's as strong as Zero, so he shouldn't match Zero's performance.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/30/2006 4:53:48 PM | message detail
But he's closer to Zero than that, especially with the way DMC3 has sold since then.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/30/2006 4:53:56 PM | message detail
Sonic lose to Ganondorf? Pffft. It's friggin' Sonic, man!

All the more reason for him to lose!

Plus, I'm not seeing any indications of a second Nintendo boost, like some seemed to be predicting. Ganondorf has too much ground to gain!

There has been something to show there's not another Nintendo boost? Today's match wouldn't really be indicative of that considering Riku has all the reason to see a bigger increase himself. Of course, I don't think we were going to see another widescale boost, but certain Nintendo characters boosting seems possible enough to me. I for one think that Zelda is going to be stronger this year than last. And that goes for Ganon, too!

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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/30/2006 4:54:26 PM | message detail
I think Dante gets around 59% or so against Hayabusa.

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/30/2006 4:56:18 PM | message detail
Unless Hayabusa overperforms or has noticeably increased since last year, I don't see Dante failing to break 60% here.

...And don't bring up Tails either.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/30/2006 4:57:14 PM | message detail
Not if something something is overrated!

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/30/2006 4:57:51 PM | message detail
*slaps HM*

Besides, DMC3 has been selling like hotcakes, man!
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Draco1214 | Posted 9/30/2006 4:58:09 PM | message detail
I agree with HM, but mostly because I think Zero is still the beast he's always been.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/30/2006 5:00:13 PM | message detail
That clearly means nothing! Sales don't matter, remember? He could get a measly .5% boost!

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/30/2006 5:00:37 PM | message detail
With the boost he got last year? HA!
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/30/2006 5:01:11 PM | message detail
He got the bulk of his boost last year! It was only 3% then and it'll be lesser now!

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/30/2006 5:01:59 PM | message detail
Lesser like 2%?

Still enough to get 63% on Hayabusa!
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therealmnm | Posted 9/30/2006 5:02:51 PM | message detail
lol Dante/Tails
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/30/2006 5:03:10 PM | message detail
Assuming Hayabusa didn't increase himself!

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/30/2006 5:03:40 PM | message detail
From THEJackSparrow Posted 9/30/2006 7:57:51 PM
*slaps HM*

Besides, DMC3 has been selling like hotcakes, man!


So has Tomb Raider Legends.

TuRtLe
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/30/2006 5:04:10 PM | message detail
So has Tomb Raider Legends.

No, it hasn't.
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