GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 372
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/29/2006 8:51:52 AM | message detail |
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Heh, go Squall. This is ****ing crazy o_O Instead she gets all those votes from being up against some of the most anti-voted fodder around... ...Yeah. >_> --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Z1m Zum, Z1m Zum...our guru champ. |
| KingBartz | Posted 9/29/2006 8:53:17 AM | message detail |
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It's true. --- The end of the world is nigh! Earth Life Remaining: 4 days SC2K6: 16/17 Today's pick: Squall Leonhart |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/29/2006 8:55:04 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, I also think it's Bomberman's fault (his pictures, really). He
looked...pink and shiny against Alucard, but he was ready to toss a
bomb at Squall. --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/29/2006 9:00:28 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, I also think it's Bomberman's fault (his pictures, really). He
looked...pink and shiny against Alucard, but he was ready to toss a
bomb at Squall. Well, I'm not exactly talking about the 3% or whatever. Just that Kirby probably wasn't "underrated" at all in 2k4. My initial post was in response to Haste saying that Kirby might have been at 32% BL in 2k4. That would give Bomberman a ridiculous boost. --- Vote for Soma Cruz Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness, Mega Man ZX |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 9/29/2006 9:01:47 AM | message detail |
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Strongest non-FFVII Final Fantasy character, am I right!! No, I believe I worded it correctly the first time!! You shall see! --- Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship: Round 1: Tidus |
| creativename | Posted 9/29/2006 9:04:01 AM | message detail |
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Haste 2: Dante is expected to get 52.15% on Luigi last year. Yoshi beat Luigi with 54.48% the previous year. That alone gives Yoshi a shot. ... we still can't make a conclusion. Certainly Yoshi has a shot and Kirby/Dante is inconclusive. However Yoshi and Kirby being the favorites just didn't make much sense to me. Dante and Zero have had the more impressive careers, and just look like they deserve to be favorites. One or both could lose, but having much faith in Yoshi and Kirby seems like it's bound for disappointment to me. Depends on how much...60% wouldn't indicate weakness, but 55% would. True. Just saying that I expect Hayabusa to overperform, giving not only his uber picture, but he's also had a game (Ninja Gaiden Black) since last contest. I expect people to start being more concerned about Dante's chances against Yoshi if that happens, but I don't think it would be warranted. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/29/2006 9:06:15 AM | message detail |
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No, I believe I worded it correctly the first time!! You shall see! Haw! Ganon > Squall. Fact o' life!! --- "Master using it and you can have this." http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/160/masterjg3.jpg |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/29/2006 9:13:27 AM | message detail |
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It's true. What baffles me is that people make arguments for Raiden hate and Squall hate dying down, yet Lara still, apparently, gets antivotes. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Z1m Zum, Z1m Zum...our guru champ. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/29/2006 9:15:34 AM | message detail |
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Because most people here still care for at least one MGS or FF game. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/29/2006 9:17:29 AM | message detail |
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Dante hasn't been that impressive...
Beating up on Ryo Hazuki, Ratchet, Terra, and Q*Bert says nothing. He
let Tails get almost 43% on him. In his losses, he got doubled up by
Crono, got beat soundly by Ryu, lost Viewtifully to Sonic, and got 46%
on Vincent. And that 46% on Vincent was with heavy bracket support as a
1-seed. Yoshi hasn't had the chance to shine in a contest, being behind SFF or something all the time. Really, I would expect Yoshi to be the Tails of the Mario universe, yet he went and beat Luigi soundly (I only picked him since people in the stats topic said it was obvious) and outperforms him against Pac-Man. He also somehow wins Mario favorites polls, which is also baffling. The jury is still out on him, but I see no reason to doubt him being able to beat Dante. --- Vote for Soma Cruz Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness, Mega Man ZX |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/29/2006 9:18:20 AM | message detail |
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...Either I'm tired, or that made no sense at all. People liking the games means the hate went down? But people liked MGS2 and FF8 in SPITE of these characters. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Z1m Zum, Z1m Zum...our guru champ. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/29/2006 9:33:08 AM | message detail |
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My initial post was in response to Haste saying that Kirby might
have been at 32% BL in 2k4. That would give Bomberman a ridiculous
boost. So, basically you believe Squall increased significantly between 2K4 and 2K5, right? Could be true, could be not true. But, what's so wrong about Bomberman being closer to his 2K2 value, or perhaps exceeding it a little bit? He might've underperformed on Alucard, and more than because of picture reasons. --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/29/2006 9:41:10 AM | message detail |
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So, basically you believe Squall increased significantly between 2K4 and 2K5, right? Nope! :P --- Vote for Soma Cruz Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness, Mega Man ZX |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/29/2006 9:43:59 AM | message detail |
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Oh, wait, you believe in the Devil Division = overrated thing, then.
I've always believe that, but today's kind of a blow to that
theory...sort of. But, the idea of Squall increasing between 2K4 and
2K5 was always something I meant to bring up. Of course, guys like
Leonhart will claim Squall was at 35% on BL since 2K3. --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 9/29/2006 9:59:40 AM | message detail |
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Of course, guys like Leonhart will claim Squall was at 35% on BL since 2K3. Yeah, because Metroid Prime did nothing for Samus in 2003 (we had to wait 'til 2004 for that!), and Link just couldn't SFF her. The idea makes no sense, but yet people refuse to think differently because....well, that's how we always thought of it and people have no intention of changing their minds, apparently. You may accuse me of fanboyism on arguing on behalf of Squall ("Ha! There's no way Magus is overrated! You're just being a delusional fanboy, even though every match except one indicates his overratedness!"), but it's not like I'm pulling this out of nowhere. --- Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship: Round 1: Tidus |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/29/2006 10:05:36 AM | message detail |
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Stop taking things to extremes. Squall may have been underrated in the
2k3 stats, but I'm not buying him being at 35% that year. --- Vote for Soma Cruz Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness, Mega Man ZX |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 9/29/2006 10:07:21 AM | message detail |
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I never said he was at 35% that year. It's certainly possible, but I
can't say for sure where he is. Samus might have had a second increase
in 2004, for what it's worth. --- Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship: Round 1: Tidus |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 9/29/2006 10:09:31 AM | message detail |
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But I'll just say that I believe that Samus was at least worth 40% on
Link in 2003, which would put Squall at 33.44% on him. That puts him in
the general area of Zero and above Aeris (which I would expect). --- Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship: Round 1: Tidus |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/29/2006 10:13:05 AM | message detail |
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Well, you looked kinda defensive in that response to Haste over the
35%. Personally, I think Samus was probably a little underrated in 2k3
in retrospect. I still think the SFF wasn't THAT much due to the whole
WW Link stigma. Link should have beaten her by much more based on
Mario/Samus. Plus I believe that the site began to shift towards
Nintendo in 2k4. There was just so much SFF that year that we didn't
have accurate reads on many of the Ninty characters. I definitely don't think Squall loses to Aeris indirectly in 2k3, but I wouldn't put him too much higher than her. --- Vote for Soma Cruz Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness, Mega Man ZX |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/29/2006 10:21:54 AM | message detail |
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Wait...so Squall could neither be weaker than Aeris then, nor as high
as 35%? Seems like way too narrow of a window... I could certainly buy
the former, since Aeris did 9% better on Snake the previous year. Of
course, not that I have to exclude the latter, either. --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| BDawg | Posted 9/29/2006 10:23:33 AM | message detail |
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It would be pretty funny if Squall beat Snake, not that I'm buying it.
Because once MGS4 and Brawl hit I can't see Snake losing to anybody
besides the big four. And for all I know he could draw a bead of sweat
from Mario depending on how Galaxy is received. --- Should I start running now? |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/29/2006 10:35:23 AM | message detail |
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I could certainly buy the former, since Aeris did 9% better on Snake the previous year. Oh snap! I just realized that... --- Vote for Soma Cruz Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness, Mega Man ZX |
| Kyle Bowen | Posted 9/29/2006 11:00:00 AM | message detail |
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("Ha! There's no way Magus is overrated! You're just being a
delusional fanboy, even though every match except one indicates his
overratedness!") XD I still have that Ulti quote!!! I know what you mean... I am by no means an expert on these contests... but I am an expert on Squall (and Yuri). I will study Squalls matches and those I feel are around him. I have said for the past few years that Squall was in the league of Gannon and Bowser... I even made a statement in February saying Squall would be on the top 9 strongest characters in normal bracket of this contest and if he pulls >47% on Snake... I dont think I will stupid for saying so. Eh... maybe I am delusional... but nothing I have done or said so far is that insane.... at least I dont think so. KB |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/29/2006 11:00:35 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, because Metroid Prime did nothing for Samus in 2003 I'm not saying she wasn't SFFed but if you account for WDF, Samus does increase between 2002 and 2003 by a noticeable amount, depending on how you adjust it. I still don't think anything that fishy happened in Snake/Squall. Squall just got a huge increase due to the voter shift. Sephiroth went from getting 43% on Link to being almost equal, so it's not like Squall getting a huge increase is impossible or anything. It's not like Aeris showed any signs of being SFF'd either. With Tidus sucking this badly it makes me wonder. Why is Magus so far removed than Crono when we have tons of examples of mains doing worse than fan favorites? Is it because Crono's (kinda) named after the game? --- Z1mZum totally owned me in the July 2006 Guru Contest The Funky Chickens in Trivia XVIII |
| Kyle Bowen | Posted 9/29/2006 11:03:31 AM | message detail |
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Lets see if Squall can get the after school, KH vote. KB |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/29/2006 11:11:56 AM | message detail |
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Squall will not be in the top 10, because he will be weaker than Vincent. --- Character Battle V Score - 17/17 points Current Prediction - Squall Leonhart vs. Tidus |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/29/2006 11:28:11 AM | message detail |
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With Tidus sucking this badly it makes me wonder. Why is Magus so
far removed than Crono when we have tons of examples of mains doing
worse than fan favorites? Is it because Crono's (kinda) named after the
game? Because Tidus is a very dislikable person. People say he's more "real" than Cloud or Squall, I say he's a freaking loser that can't stop whining and being an emo kid. I know other people share this opinion that Tidus' lack of any redeeming qualities hurts him. People like Squall, Cloud, Magus and Auron are badasses that you can't help but respect. Call them "typical overblown heroes" if you will, but trends have shown that they are far more preferred outside of Board 8 than panzy-ass losers like Zidane or Teedus. TuRtLe ~~~ I used my brain and statistics to make my bracket. Karma Hunter used MGS fanboyism. KH won. Commit it to memory. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/29/2006 11:29:52 AM | message detail |
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Also, take a look at this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2085 Squall is doing almost as good on Tidus as Crono did on Zidane. Teedus = weaksauce TuRtLe ~~~ I used my brain and statistics to make my bracket. Karma Hunter used MGS fanboyism. KH won. Commit it to memory. |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/29/2006 11:34:21 AM | message detail |
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RIP Ganon falling out of the Top 15 after this contest :( --- Scooped in a coupe, Snoop we got news/Your girl was trickin' while you was draped in your county blues I ain't been out a second/And already gotta do some mutha****in chin checkin |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/29/2006 11:36:23 AM | message detail |
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People like Squall, Cloud, Magus and Auron are badasses that you
can't help but respect. Call them "typical overblown heroes" if you
will, but trends have shown that they are far more preferred outside of
Board 8 than panzy-ass losers like Zidane or Teedus. You just had to throw in your overly biased hate of FFIX. Zidane may not be a badass carrying a huge sword, but nobody expects Zidane to be as popular as his FF counterparts. Zidane isn't disliked by large amounts of people like you would have people believe. I don't see people anywhere going "Zidane sucks! He flirts with girls! And he doesn't have a multi-hitting limit break!" Zidane really has nothing to do with today's match, but then again I guess you're just being TuRtLe. --- Vote for Soma Cruz Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness, Mega Man ZX |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/29/2006 11:38:04 AM | message detail |
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RIP Ganon falling out of the Top 15 after this contest That cannot happen when he's going to be in the Top 9! --- "Master using it and you can have this." http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/160/masterjg3.jpg |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/29/2006 11:39:18 AM | message detail |
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Squall is doing almost as good on Tidus as Crono did on Zidane. Teedus = weaksauce It's actually that magical thing we call SFF! --- "Master using it and you can have this." http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/160/masterjg3.jpg |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/29/2006 11:40:33 AM | message detail |
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People like Squall, Cloud, Magus and Auron are badasses that you can't help but respect. But Magus isn't close to Crono in popularity. That's what I was trying to say. --- Z1mZum totally owned me in the July 2006 Guru Contest The Funky Chickens in Trivia XVIII |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/29/2006 11:43:22 AM | message detail |
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It's actually that magical thing we call SFF! Exactly, and Squall seems to be getting much more of it than Crono did! TuRtLe ~~~ I used my brain and statistics to make my bracket. Karma Hunter used MGS fanboyism. KH won. Commit it to memory. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/29/2006 11:44:20 AM | message detail |
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And that's because there's no reason to not like Crono. He represents his game and leads his party to save the world. Tidus just tags along and cries for 3/4 of the game. TuRtLe ~~~ I used my brain and statistics to make my bracket. Karma Hunter used MGS fanboyism. KH won. Commit it to memory. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/29/2006 12:02:12 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, because Metroid Prime did nothing for Samus in 2003 (we had to wait 'til 2004 for that!), Arguably, you could say the same about Wind Waker and Link. And people referring to the Top 10 seem to be forgetting that the Top 4 aren't going to be in there, thanks to the Battle Royale. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 9/29/2006 12:12:55 PM | message detail |
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It's actually that magical thing we call SFF! Right, and what puzzles me is even more then is Vincent/Squall. FF8 is more loyal to its fanbase than FFX? How can three leading ff characters have two such dramatically different results? --- Revenge is a dish best served by Z1mZum in the 2k6 Series Guru Contest. |
| Big Bob | Posted 9/29/2006 12:14:13 PM | message detail |
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This doesn't make my Kirby > His fourpack look good. But I'm just going to blame it on SFF and call it a day. --- My bracket is so screwed. |
| transience | Posted 9/29/2006 12:14:39 PM | message detail |
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I'd blame Kingdom Hearts. FF8 isn't that much more popular than FF10, but throw in KH and it's a landslide. --- xyzzy |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 9/29/2006 12:15:52 PM | message detail |
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I could certainly buy the former, since Aeris did 9% better on Snake the previous year FFVII is not SFF-able, if you want to call this FFVII/MGS stuff that (since there's not really a better term). It just won't happen. Plus, Snake and Squall are very much alike in terms of character. Of course, if by chance there was no overperformance that year, then sure, Aeris could possibly still be above Squall in 2003. But that means he increased somewhere after that because there's no way he almost beats Vincent and still loses to Aeris. I don't think those two are quite that close together. Because Tidus is a very dislikable person. Tidus bashers are very dislikable people. People say he's more "real" than Cloud or Squall, I say he's a freaking loser that can't stop whining and being an emo kid. But...he does stop whining after a while (and, believe it or not, most of it is justified). However, most people have given up on him by that point, so they no longer care. Arguably, you could say the same about Wind Waker and Link. Of course that's where we get the idea that Link didn't SFF Mario either because the two end up at the same relative value. There were quite a few characters worth 40% on Link in 2002, and I don't think Sephiroth is to blame for the reason they weren't in 2003. I believe Link did increase in 2003. But even if he didn't, the release of Wind Waker and the release of Metroid Prime are two completely different things altogether. --- Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship: Round 1: Tidus |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 9/29/2006 12:17:52 PM | message detail |
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FF8 is more loyal to its fanbase than FFX? In my opinion, this really has nothing to do with loyalty to the game. If we were ever (please don't do this, Ceej) to have a video games vs. characters crossbreed contest, Squall is one of the few characters out there I think that could beat his own game. --- Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship: Round 1: Tidus |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 9/29/2006 12:42:58 PM | message detail |
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At the 15:40 mark, this match has 72065 votes. To compare with other matches at the same time: Samus/Nidoran F - 70678 Rikku/Lenneth - 67967 Peach/Daisy - 67418 Snake/Soma - 67561 I'm liking how this is turning out! --- Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship: Round 1: Tidus |
| WilhuffTarkin | Posted 9/29/2006 12:52:31 PM | message detail |
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I didn't expect Squall to beat Tidus this badly. This is a total blow out. I figured it would be within the 60s-30s realm. --- Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/29/2006 12:53:48 PM | message detail |
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Aeris/Marle - 82236 Squall/Tidus - 72065 Samus/Nidoran F - 70678 Peach/Daisy - 67418 Just interesting, I thought...but then again, I would take Marle or Tidus to beat both Nidoran F and Daisy simultaniously. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 9/29/2006 1:01:05 PM | message detail |
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*points HaRRicH to the day of the week that Aeris/Marle fell on* --- Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship: Round 1: Tidus |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/29/2006 1:05:15 PM | message detail |
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Ah yeah...well, ya know...uh... ...shut up! --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 9/29/2006 1:17:49 PM | message detail |
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Speaking of which, I wonder how high Riku/Yoshi will go. Yoshi isn't
exactly well-known for drawing votes. Yoshi/Conker was the 3rd worst
and Bowser/Yoshi 14th worst in 2003 in terms of drawing votes.
Yoshi/Luigi was 9th worst and Yoshi/Ryo 15th worst in 2004.
Yoshi/Pac-Man was 2nd worst in 2005. --- Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship: Round 1: Tidus |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/29/2006 1:22:10 PM | message detail |
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It will also be our first Nintendo/Square match too though, I believe. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 9/29/2006 1:23:58 PM | message detail |
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In terms of percentages, what are you guys expecting out of that match?
Even going by Yoshi's floor (his given 2005 value in the stats), he
still wins with 58.41% against Riku. Push him up to Luigi's level, and
he wins with 61.48% there, and he can go up some more from there. I
know Riku has KHII to help him out, but how high can it bring him? --- Squall Leonhart's Road to the Character Battle V Championship: Round 1: Tidus |
| The Real Truth | Posted 9/29/2006 1:26:01 PM | message detail |
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Well I have Yoshi around 55%, but I'm not sure what to expect. --- Nominate Barret Wallace for SC2k7, you know you want to Contest score= 14/16, Next= Snake, Squall, Yoshi, Dante |