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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 372

transience | Posted 9/29/2006 3:21:52 AM | message detail
he's the king of getting crap like Serious Sam. that's the key to blowing people out!

give Serious Sam to Link and I'm sure the result is similar.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/29/2006 3:23:32 AM | message detail
Well, yeah, he got a fourpack that CATS could have won, but still...all I'm saying is, MM's got the rep. Link could have that reputation, but all he's got so far is Aiai. I still can't believe how well Little Mac did on him BTW. <_<
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greatone10 | Posted 9/29/2006 3:24:52 AM | message detail
That, and Tanner complimented Snake perfectly. Being a PS1 era action character meant that just about anyone on this site who played anything in the Driver series also was a Metal Gear Solid fan. If Mega Man or Crono drew Tanner, he probably would have been on the level of Serious Sam or Mr. Driller.
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transience | Posted 9/29/2006 3:25:00 AM | message detail
if I made a favourites bracket in 2k2, Little Mac vs. Dirk the Daring would be my final! (assuming they're on opposite sides!)
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transience | Posted 9/29/2006 3:25:20 AM | message detail
Snake/Tanner SFF? oh lord now we've done seen it all
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/29/2006 3:26:01 AM | message detail
It's not like the idea is new!

Besides, Snake can SFF anything now!!!
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greatone10 | Posted 9/29/2006 3:27:46 AM | message detail
Don't get me wrong, Tanner is a complete joke, but I knew who he was before 2K4, and I can't say that about a lot of the cult fodder that finds its way into this contest somehow.
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transience | Posted 9/29/2006 3:27:53 AM | message detail
not Crono!!!!!!

or uh Master Chief
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transience | Posted 9/29/2006 3:28:33 AM | message detail
I've never heard of Tanner in my life. most of the 'cult fodder' I hear of, but not "casual" games like driver.

...but I voted for him!!! darn you tranny
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/29/2006 3:29:12 AM | message detail
And people have a hard time believing that Tanner is just that weak. Going back to that whole "100% updates" thing, Snake didn't pull off any, but he came damn close.

Tanner is in his entire own league of pitifulness, and I'm not sure if it could ever be equaled. That's why people have such a hard time taking it seriously. I mean, a character that Gordon Freeman could score 92% on?????
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jonthomson | Posted 9/29/2006 3:30:29 AM | message detail
Squall taking Tidus to pwntown like this is really quite amusing. Except for that my oracle pick will be lame.
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transience | Posted 9/29/2006 3:30:29 AM | message detail
I'm fairly certain that match was simply a fluke. hold it the next day and he probably gets 10% or something. I refuse to believe you can suck that much in a poll.

that's part of the reason Jay Solano was so appealing - the bar was so low already!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/29/2006 3:31:07 AM | message detail
I'd e-strangle you where you stand tranny, but it's long been known that the only time I've ever pity-voted against Snake was for Tanner (I'm actually a decent Driver mark).

...I still regret it, by the way.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/29/2006 3:31:16 AM | message detail
Hey, say what you will about Tanner, but he got NOMINATED into the contest (even if the only reason he did was because Driv3r got released during the nomination period) and got a higher seed than Duke Nukem and Earthworm Jim.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/29/2006 3:32:29 AM | message detail
Oh, and you heard me. Snake/Tanner was rSFF for Tanner.
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transience | Posted 9/29/2006 3:33:08 AM | message detail
I voted for Adventure, too. I don't think there's a single game I could vote for over Adventure!

I can't tell if my indie cred is soaring or if I just like pain
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transience | Posted 9/29/2006 3:33:27 AM | message detail
also, Shadow Hearts and Yuri.. yeah
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greatone10 | Posted 9/29/2006 3:35:27 AM | message detail
I voted for Tanner due his unflattering cameo in GTA3.

And I was thinking about the infamous blowout when the security guard yelled "You suck Tanner!" to the television screen in San Andreas.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/29/2006 3:35:59 AM | message detail
This is a good time to bring up the fact that Samus/Yuri was also a huge fluke! Yuri is far weaker than what that match implies...actually, if the Snake/Tanner SFF theory is true, we need to see Snake/Yuri. Competition for Tanner?! =O
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transience | Posted 9/29/2006 3:37:07 AM | message detail
Yuri would get 12% on Tanner! this is just how he rolls!
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greatone10 | Posted 9/29/2006 3:38:23 AM | message detail
Nah, the Resident Evil match showed that roughly 12% of the voters on GameFAQs would vote Yuri over the cure for cancer and the other 88% have never heard of him.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/29/2006 3:41:57 AM | message detail
Heh, I just thought of something. What if Tanner made it back in and showed that he was merely Ms. Pac Man-ish strength but did get Playstation SFF. Then Tanner could be extrapolated to get 70% on himself. He'd be more underrated than Ganon!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/29/2006 3:43:03 AM | message detail
Speaking of Ms. Pac-Man, I'm still upset she didn't make it in this contest. I'd have taken her over a good third of the female field. Biggest. X-Stat Upsets. EVER
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greatone10 | Posted 9/29/2006 3:49:31 AM | message detail
Well, people do talk about how Pac Man tends to underperform against well-known characters and overperforms on characters that lack casual knowledge. As a weaker Pac-Man clone, maybe she could upset someone like Kerrigan or Carmen Sandiego!
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transience | Posted 9/29/2006 3:50:24 AM | message detail
I nominated Ms. Pac Man. mostly because of that sexy picture I found a couple months ago.

also, I was serious - I'd take Tanner over Yuri!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/29/2006 3:52:56 AM | message detail
Mega Man/Ms. Pac-Man is one of those matches where I'm 99.9% sure it's SFF and 100% sure it doesn't matter at all. Her power is being known, but that's enough to clear out fodder. No way I take her to lose to scrubs like Jade, Lenneth, and Alyx when half of GameFAQs don't even know who they are.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/29/2006 3:55:52 AM | message detail
Well, with Alyx, if Lara tanks this year, you may not even need any SFF adjustments for Ms. Pac Man > Alyx Vance.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/29/2006 3:58:21 AM | message detail
Yeah, Alyx is just that damn bad...and it's a shame she got stuck facing Croft, because I'd like to have seen what kind of blowout Samus could have put up on her. Instead she gets all those votes from being up against some of the most anti-voted fodder around...
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greatone10 | Posted 9/29/2006 4:00:22 AM | message detail
But on the bright side, I think we couldn't have found any better opponent for HI I'M DAISY than what we got. Now I want to see Peach flop just to see what happens there.
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 9/29/2006 4:01:15 AM | message detail
Oh crap, I've found a fatal flaw in my bracket.

I've got Kairi beating Rikku. Must've not been paying attention.

****.
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transience | Posted 9/29/2006 4:06:46 AM | message detail
the idea of Lara being antivoted comes from 2k2 though. if you looked at it, a whole bunch of characters seem to have gotten antivoted. Aeris, the aforementioned Tidus, Mario.. you wouldn't expect those characters to score nearly what they did. take away 2k2 and Lara hasn't really had the chance to be antivoted. her only really bad match was the one with Samus.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/29/2006 4:13:20 AM | message detail
*Wakes up*

*Sees Squall basically tripling Tidus*

.....Dayum. I expected it to be way closer than that. Solid Snake is so screwed
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LeonhartForever | Posted 9/29/2006 5:31:40 AM | message detail
Talk about an awesome match, and this is from a person with Tidus as his second favorite character.

Watch out, Snake! Squall is coming! That would be one of the best days ever.
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Tediz247 | Posted 9/29/2006 5:46:46 AM | message detail
If Snake goes down before the final, I hope it's Squall to take him out.

By the way, this match points to what some of us have been saying for a long time: The Devil Division is perfectly fine, and the Dream Division is a fraud. I know it's SFF and shouldn't be taken seriously, but still, there can't be all that much SFF in a match involving FF mains not named Cloud.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/29/2006 6:11:03 AM | message detail
And why is that? It's not like we've seen FF leads in action against each other all the time. I don't see what's so hard to believe about this match being riddled with SFF. Two FF leads who have games merely two years apart. Squall holds nearly every intangible against Tidus except recency and being on the PS2. And Squall has KH to counter that. This says nothing about the Devil Division or the Dream Division yet.
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MegaReincarnate | Posted 9/29/2006 6:28:01 AM | message detail
lol

I actually have Squall > Snake. Yeah, I've got balls, baby.
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Phediuk | Posted 9/29/2006 6:28:41 AM | message detail
Whoa, this is quite the ass-kicking. Guess people don't like Tidus much after all.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/29/2006 6:30:49 AM | message detail
Too bad Snake has had some more things up his sleeve since last contest. I wouldn't mind Squall beating Snake at all!
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The Real Truth | Posted 9/29/2006 6:31:28 AM | message detail
That doesn't mean people don't like Tidus at all. I'd vote for Tidus over just about any other character.
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Contest score= 14/16, Next= Snake, Squall, Yoshi, Dante
Heroic Mario | Posted 9/29/2006 6:41:32 AM | message detail
Oh, man, hearing some people try to do away with the Devil Division being overrated or this being a clear sign toward a KH2 boost or whatever is just funny. This is nothing more than the result of Tidus getting weaker (SHOCK), Squall boosting a bit from KH2 (2005 levels here we come!), and SFF.

Silly people.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/29/2006 6:42:25 AM | message detail
This says nothing about the Devil Division or the Dream Division yet.

Indeed. Good man right here!

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The Real Truth | Posted 9/29/2006 6:42:31 AM | message detail
Silly people taking Ganon over Sonic

lolol
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Haste_2 | Posted 9/29/2006 8:08:02 AM | message detail
Regarding Zero/Kirby, the two things that never made sense to me were Kirby being favored over Zero and Yoshi being favored over Dante.

Dante is expected to get 52.15% on Luigi last year. Yoshi beat Luigi with 54.48% the previous year. That alone gives Yoshi a shot.

Glad to see that people are coming to their senses on Zero/Kirby. Kirby has a good shot to win, but Zero deserves to be the favorite.

Kirby got 45% on Squall in 2K4. Unless Squall increased significantly between 2K4 and 2K5, and Squall's 2K5 value is accurate, Kirby's ALREADY at 32% on BL in 2K4, enough to potentially beat Zero still. Then, the fact that Kirby should boosted at least a little (I doubt he's dropped), and Tidus' real strength is hidden behind SFF, we still can't make a conclusion.

Though on Dante, as I said earlier I wouldn't be surprised to see Ryu overperform on him. I don't really think that would indicate weakness on Dante's part.

Depends on how much...60% wouldn't indicate weakness, but 55% would.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 9/29/2006 8:19:21 AM | message detail
lol Squall beating Mega Man. SquareFAQs returns!

Solid Snake is just the beginning, my friends!

boosting a bit from KH2 (2005 levels here we come!)

2005 level has come and gone. Now we're talking about Noble Nine level! Squall will break it before Vincent (see what I did there!) even has a chance!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 9/29/2006 8:23:52 AM | message detail
Seriously though, this doesn't say anything about the Devil Division or the Dream Division. Squall is the strongest non-FFVII character we have, and he is more than capable of getting SFF (which is probably why people shot so low on his percentage, they thought he couldn't do it because of the hate). That's really all this match tells me.

And that his chances of beating Snake aren't 0% as well. Not that his chances are particularly good, but there's at least a chance. I'm questioning just how much of an overperformance Snake can manage because of how close of a proximity they are now as compared with 2002. We've seen characters from the same fanbase who are close together have close matches with little noticeable SFF.
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Haste_2 | Posted 9/29/2006 8:26:13 AM | message detail
Squall is the strongest non-FFVII character we have

Squall for the male bracket!

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LeonhartForever | Posted 9/29/2006 8:27:17 AM | message detail
At the 11:25 mark, this match has 50730 votes. To compare with other matches at the same time:

Samus/Nidoran F - 49552
Rikku/Lenneth - 48136
Peach/Daisy - 47659
Snake/Soma - 47475

Hmmm...These vote totals are a little too nice to be SFF...

Squall for Battle Royale Champion!
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therealmnm | Posted 9/29/2006 8:30:33 AM | message detail
One thing that still sticks out like a sore thumb when relating Kirby and Squall is Bomberman. Bomberman and Kirby were in the same fourpack for 3 straight years, so it's interesting to see how they relate to each other in each contest.

Kirby (2002c) VS Bomberman (2002c)

Kirby has a strength of 25.54.
Bomberman has a strength of 23.01.
Kirby wins with 54.95% of the vote!
A win of 8,262 with 83,401 total votes cast.

Kirby (2003c) VS Bomberman (2003c)

Kirby has a strength of 26.34.
Bomberman has a strength of 19.59.
Kirby wins with 62.81% of the vote!
A win of 21,683 with 84,611 total votes cast.

Kirby (2004c) VS Bomberman (2004c)

Kirby has a strength of 28.54.
Bomberman has a strength of 22.36.
Kirby wins with 60.83% of the vote!
A win of 18,253 with 84,294 total votes cast.


Now by all means, Kirby should have been increasing the gap between him and Bomberman each year. Yet he regressed against Bomberman in 2k4. I hardly believe that Bomberman himself boosted (more than Kirby in 2k4 at that). So I've always been reluctant to say that Kirby was probably underrated all along before 2k5. And I definitely wasn't a fan of using Kirby 2k5 and Squall 2k4 to justify Squall 2k5. Of course Squall/Bomberman could just be an anomaly, but I hardly doubt that Bomberman of all people would be one to cause anomalies.

Just another take on the matter. Not enough to draw conclusions off of, but I hardly see anybody mentioning this anymore.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 9/29/2006 8:39:31 AM | message detail
Well, either Bomberman increased, Kirby decreased, or there was an anomaly somewhere because Squall got almost exactly what Alucard got on Bomberman in 2003, but did nearly 3% better on Kirby. I'd be more prone to throw the blame on Bomberman myself because that match just sticks out when you look at the whole picture.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/29/2006 8:46:08 AM | message detail
Seriously though, this doesn't say anything about the Devil Division or the Dream Division.

Indeed.

To me, this match doesn't say anything about any type of new trend, any voter shift, any increase, how certain characters are looking or anything. It might be different if Squall was facing someone not from Square, but this is clearly a SFF match...along with a possible drop from Tidus and boost from KH2. Really hard to gather anything from this match other than Squall being stronger than Tidus by a great deal (we figured) this and being preferred by the fanbase.

Squall is the strongest non-FFVII character we have

Strongest non-FFVII Final Fantasy character, am I right!!

And that his chances of beating Snake aren't 0% as well. Not that his chances are particularly good, but there's at least a chance.

I would agree. It's understandable why Squall over Snake would be deemed unlikely before the contest -- and even now -- but his chances are definitely above 0%. I'd be pretty shocked if he did beat Snake though.

Hmmm...These vote totals are a little too nice to be SFF...

A product of the male bracket, no doubt!

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