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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 371

THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/28/2006 7:05:20 AM | message detail
And as far as the whole Knuckles thing, in my opinion, he has a good chance of being overrated, but there's very little doubt in my mind that he increased noticeably. If that Knuckles had faced 2004 Snake, he'd have gotten close to 45%.
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yoshifan823 | Posted 9/28/2006 7:08:10 AM | message detail
Yesh. And anyone else say BOWSAH > CRANO?!
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/28/2006 7:09:28 AM | message detail
Bowser will get his 47% on Crono, but he'll still lose.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/28/2006 7:09:40 AM | message detail
Bowser > Crono is much sexier than Ganondorf/Vincent > Sonic or Squall > Solid Snake.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/28/2006 7:14:39 AM | message detail
As I said before, Bowser only got 4% less than Mario on Sephiroth IN THE SAME YEAR! Mario beat Crono by about 4%... Bowser is taking it to Crono.

Oh yes!
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/28/2006 7:16:06 AM | message detail
As I said before, Bowser only got 4% less than Mario on Sephiroth IN THE SAME YEAR!

...Did HM just hijack your account?
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/28/2006 7:17:33 AM | message detail
XD using Heroic Mario logic.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/28/2006 7:18:19 AM | message detail
I'm insulted! I am the head Bowser authority around these parts. HM is on that loser Ganon's tip!
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/28/2006 7:19:11 AM | message detail
This is weird. MGS's day vote seems somewhat improved...Of course, The Boss faced Celes (but Terra won the morning vote over Kerrigan) and Snake is facing a Castlevania character, but still.

Not following trends is awesome!
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/28/2006 7:19:44 AM | message detail
Squall > Bowser! Take that to the bank!
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therealmnm | Posted 9/28/2006 7:23:03 AM | message detail
Yeah right. I wouldn't even take that crap to Western Union!
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/28/2006 7:23:25 AM | message detail
Squall vs. Bowser is a match that I've wanted to see since 2k3.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/28/2006 7:23:48 AM | message detail
That's fine. I'll be the one laughing all the way to the bank!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/28/2006 7:44:03 AM | message detail
I honestly can't wait until Zero takes his fourpack. It will be a great moment indeed.


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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/28/2006 7:45:12 AM | message detail
I just wish that Zero didn't look like he was wearing underwear.
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 9/28/2006 7:46:33 AM | message detail
If Squall beats Snake, I will orgasmically exlode with hapiness.

This performance by Snake is destroying any little glimmer of hope I ever had, though. >_<
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 9/28/2006 7:47:54 AM | message detail
HAPINESS = HAPPINESS OBVIOUSLY
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/28/2006 7:48:08 AM | message detail
Meh, don't make judgment off of unproven characters. Soma has shown himself to be fodder, and that's what I expected from him. Solid Snake being stronger this year would not surprise me, however. Either I want Squall to upset him, or I want Snake to be strong enough to take the Male Bracket.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/28/2006 8:29:26 AM | message detail
While we're in a bit of a lull, I suppose I'll make my comments on the new batch of pictures.

Solid Snake/Soma Cruz - MGS1 Snake! First time we've seen him outside of a user made picture against Mario last year. Soma looks like he belongs in Japanese anime.

Squall/Tidus - Nice picture of Squall, though it's not my favorite. I hate that picture of Tidus though. It's like the worst one he has.

Riku/Yoshi - Not the best picture Riku could've had, but it's better than staring at Yoshi's butt (I expect EC to make some witty remark!).

Dante/Hayabusa - Holy crap, that picture of Hayabusa is one of the most awesome things I have ever seen. Nice picture of Dante, too, but it's overshadowed.

Sora/Tingle - Typical KHII Sora picture, and...well, it's Tingle.

Phoenix/Gordon - Phoenix just standing there, and Freeman in his loser pose with the Half-Life symbol visible. Decent, but not great.

Kratos/Ryu - I like that picture of Ryu a lot, and the one of Kratos ain't bad either.

Mega Man/Axel - Not too fond of that Mega Man picture, but Axel looks cool.

Sonic/CATS - An expected picture of Sonic, but CATS looks very extravagant.

Ganondorf/Vincent - Standard pictures for both. Balanced, but bland.

Kirby/Prince - Funny how Kirby's whole body fits into an upper body round. Nice picture of the Prince, too.

Luigi/Zero - Gold-digger vs. Zero in his underwear? This picture should've been better than this.

Crono/Falcon - Nothing new for Crono, but I like Captain Falcon's picture. Very blue.

Bowser/Leon - Bowser looks like crap in Mario RPG, plain and simple. Decent picture of Leon though.

Auron/Alucard - Standard cool-looking Auron pose, and that's about the best Alucard could've asked for.

Master Chief/Sub-Zero - The resolution for both is a bit blurry. MC looks the same as always, and Sub-Zero is very recognizable, heh. Glad he didn't get his Shredder look.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/28/2006 8:38:21 AM | message detail
He used Warrior Within Prince.

...He used Warrior Within Prince.

HE ****ING USED WARRIOR WITHIN PRINCE.

WTF ARE YOU DOING, CJAY? SERIOUSLY? DO YOU JUST HATE PRINCE, OR SOMETHING? WELL LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, POP: T2T IS BETTER THAN YOUR FAVOURITE GAME WILL EVER BE! ARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ****ING WARRIOR WITHIN PRINCE ARRRGH BANE OF MY LIFE URGH *kill murder slash destroy*

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In other news, I like the Dante/Ryu and pic Ryu/Kratos pics. They look like the latter look like they're going to have a proper fight to the death. Squall looks awesome, as well. I like the black background, it matches Squall's appearance well.

Yay for Snake murdering Soma today!
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Haste_2 | Posted 9/28/2006 8:52:53 AM | message detail
Squall...65% on Tidus, no SFF? Now Tidus is now Bomberman's level?! You could say Squall increased by KH2 while Tidus continued to fall off the map...

Kefka was accurately measured through Knuckles/Snake, which is why I don't think Knuckles ever underperformed against Snake.

Snake is gonna get close to 83% with the after-school vote, probably. :[

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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/28/2006 9:03:06 AM | message detail
By the way, were the nominations only posted on the board this year?

Because if they were, Lara getting a 2 is damn impressive. Solid proof that antivotes have died down...and solid proof that she has a chance against Chun-Li
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Kid Radd | Posted 9/28/2006 9:03:25 AM | message detail
Why is everyone acting like this match result is SO unexpected and crazy? Two people on the analysis crew predicted the match with 80%+, he's 2% higher than that, it's not like it's some crazy insane proof that Snake is suddenly going to take the male bracket. I hope he does, just because he's my favorite character in the contest, but that doesn't mean he's going to. We've seen Solid Snake before, he has the ability to blow out people to extremes. Oh, and there's NO POSSIBLE WAY a character who only appears on handhelds is this weak, that's just INSANE. Yeah, okay. I don't think Soma's between Manny and Kerrigan in strength, but I wouldn't be shocked if he really were.

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KingBartz | Posted 9/28/2006 9:03:37 AM | message detail
I figured the kiddies would favor nintendo in this match...

Snake should stay constant to the end of the match, 81-83%
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Kid Radd | Posted 9/28/2006 9:05:40 AM | message detail
Riku/Yoshi - Not the best picture Riku could've had, but it's better than staring at Yoshi's butt (I expect EC to make some witty remark!).

Yeah, well at least we're not looking at your face! Oh god I'm losing it.

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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/28/2006 9:05:46 AM | message detail
(Lara > GoW Kratos)
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/28/2006 9:07:59 AM | message detail
Why is everyone acting like this match result is SO unexpected and crazy? Two people on the analysis crew predicted the match with 80%+

I made that prediction fully expecting to overshoot by about 5% or so. This is what I'd expect out of Mega Man.

Not that my expectations mean jack, thank you very much!
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/28/2006 9:08:13 AM | message detail
*Copys THEJackSparrow's idea*

Solid Snake VS Soma: 5/10. Standard picture, nothing bad, nothing great

Squall VS Tidus: 6/10. Tidus looks ok, Squall has a sexy pose, but not that sexy.

Riku VS Yoshi: 3/10. Horrible Riku picture, while Yoshi looks ok.

Dante VS Ryu Hayabusa: 8/10. Both character picture's makes me want to vote for them. And thank god for no more Dead Or Alive pictures on Hayabusa.

Sora VS Tingle: 5/10. The standard Sora and Tingle picture...

Gordon Freeman VS Phoenix Wright. 8/10. Phoenix should havwe his point picture, but this picture is still pure sex.

Kratos VS Ryu. 5/10 Ryu looks somewhat cool, however Kratos looks really lame.

Megaman VS Axel. 7/10 A cool picture.

Sonic VS Cats. 9/10. There's no such thing as a not good looking Sonic picture, and Cats has a cool picture too!

Ganondorf VS Vincent. 5/10 Meh nothing special, but at least this picture doesn't tell us which character CjayC wants to win.

Kirby VS The Prince. 7/10. Unlike Kratos, the Prince looks really cool and Kirby looks ok.

Luigi VS Zero 5/10. The same lame Luigi picture again, but Zero looks somewhat cool.

Crono VS Captain Falcon. 4/10. Can't CjayC find another Crono picture? Captain Falcon looks ok.

Bowser VS Leon. 7/10. I got no problem with a SMRPG picture for Bowser and Leon has a picture from RE4.

Auron VS Alucard. 1/10. Auron looks as lame as always (anti fanboysism) and CjayC keeps using worthless pictures of Alucard. This is even worse than Cortana...

Masterchief VS Sub-Zero. 8/10. CjayC did as good as he could in this match picture.



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Who Cares? | Posted 9/28/2006 9:15:22 AM | message detail
By the way, were the nominations only posted on the board this year?

No. They were posted during the Zelda/FF final & put up in the front page for like 4 days. If it was Board 8 by itself, Lyndis would have a #1 seed, and lara no where to be found.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/28/2006 9:22:02 AM | message detail
Meh. Still, being one of the top 8 females and top 16 overall in terms of seeding is pretty good.

I can wager she got more than Kairi, as well. *shrug*

I can't wait for the now-inevitible Lara > Chunners upset !!
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KingBartz | Posted 9/28/2006 9:25:37 AM | message detail
Won't happen, XIII.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/28/2006 9:26:29 AM | message detail
Lara getting a 2 seed is a result of people not being able to think of many females...nothing more to me. I mean, she'd probably lose to half of the female field.

After 3 years of constant disappointments, Lara is going to have to prove it to me this time around. Even putting up 35% on Chun-Li would be a start.
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Bergqvist | Posted 9/28/2006 9:26:32 AM | message detail
Watch out! I had both Chun Li and Lara in my bracket. 4 points in total now.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/28/2006 9:38:44 AM | message detail
After 3 years of constant disappointments, Lara is going to have to prove it to me this time around. Even putting up 35% on Chun-Li would be a start.

10% higher and we've got a deal!
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/28/2006 9:39:25 AM | message detail
Lara will take the Aeon division. Book it.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/28/2006 9:46:32 AM | message detail
XD at this Lara support.

People seems to forget that not only did she face über fodder, but Chun Li also did better on Kasumi then what a freaking FFVII character did.

Chun Li will wiiiiiiiiiiiiiin!</fanboyism>
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/28/2006 9:52:50 AM | message detail
I don't think there's any Lara hype, outside of XIII and maybe Kyle Bowen.

...I'm sorry, I couldn't stop myself from chuckling.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/28/2006 9:58:35 AM | message detail
Squall...65% on Tidus, no SFF? Now Tidus is now Bomberman's level?!

No, Squall is stronger, silly!

Okay, maybe 65% was stretching it to say there'd be no SFF (but that's why it's BOLD, but Squall can push 60% before any SFF hits. He's already projected to get around 58% as is.
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H__RR____H | Posted 9/28/2006 10:16:09 AM | message detail
Because if they were, Lara getting a 2 is damn impressive. Solid proof that antivotes have died down...and solid proof that she has a chance against Chun-Li

Nominations cannot test anti-votes...at all. Nominations do not always mean contest strength. I don't know how long nominations were off the board, but I know there was a link directly to it on the day of LoZ/FF, so at least one (rather big) day. Even if it was just on the board, given that Lara is one of the few females icons, she is easily one of the few women people will think of when they think of gaming females, whether they actually like her or not. Chun-Li 2k5 beats any value we've seen Lara have to date with 54+%, and if Kasumi somehow stayed constant from 2k2 to 2k5 (she has more reason than most characters only from 2k2 to stay constant, to boot), Chun-Li is suddenly able to get 64.15% on Lara's best value to date (her 2k3 value). TRL may be big for her, but we don't know how big due to not seeing Lara without controversy in a long time and GameFAQs not giving a damn for her in a long time.

No solid proof has been presented.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/28/2006 10:38:02 AM | message detail
I don't think there's any Lara hype, outside of XIII and maybe Kyle Bowen.

...I'm sorry, I couldn't stop myself from chuckling.


Look, don't associate me with Kyle. Please. IIRC the only other TR fan here is Lina/Not_1.

Nominations cannot test anti-votes...at all. Nominations do not always mean contest strength. I don't know how long nominations were off the board, but I know there was a link directly to it on the day of LoZ/FF, so at least one (rather big) day.

And that's people who will return to vote for her.

Even if it was just on the board, given that Lara is one of the few females icons, she is easily one of the few women people will think of when they think of gaming females, whether they actually like her or not.

...Right. The majority of nominees were from this board, and I can think of maybe 5 regular users who would cast-iron nominate Lara. She must have some sort of support.

Chun-Li 2k5 beats any value we've seen Lara have to date with 54+%

TRL and antivotes dying down would give her the 4.

and if Kasumi somehow stayed constant from 2k2 to 2k5 (she has more reason than most characters only from 2k2 to stay constant, to boot)

Heh

Chun-Li is suddenly able to get 64.15% on Lara's best value to date (her 2k3 value).

And Lara is well above that now.

TRL may be big for her, but we don't know how big due to not seeing Lara without controversy in a long time and GameFAQs not giving a damn for her in a long time.

TR:L was MASSIVE for her, and plenty give a damn about her now. Specifically, 75,464 people.

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To clarify, I still think Lara underperformed slightly yesterday. Give her a Legend pic against Chunners and 45% is in the bag.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/28/2006 10:40:51 AM | message detail
I'm not trying to associate you with KB, I just found it funny, mostly because I distinctly remember him hyping Lara to take the division during the match.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/28/2006 10:43:14 AM | message detail
...Did HM just hijack your account?

I have never used such logic seriously. >>

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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/28/2006 10:44:24 AM | message detail
I'm insulted! I am the head Bowser authority around these parts. HM is on that loser Ganon's tip!

GANON > BOWSER 4 LIFE!

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Haste_2 | Posted 9/28/2006 10:47:08 AM | message detail
Soma Cruz's went below expectations and his games are handheld...yet Phoenix Wright's only game is handheld. Bad sign for Phoenix? Also, this is -twice- MGS has exceeded our expectations...good sign for Snake?!

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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/28/2006 10:48:27 AM | message detail
(Lara > GoW Kratos)

Not today, tomorrow, or even after five hundred new Tomb Raider games. Kratos is going to be a beast after God of War II while we're at it.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/28/2006 10:51:24 AM | message detail
I want to see how the afterschool vote holds before making any conclusions about this match for Snake...this is actually more about trends for me since we can't establish any conclusions on strength. It's MGS against a character that's exclusive to Nintendo handhelds...sure, it's Castlevania, but there's a reason why CV's day vote isn't anywhere near as sucky as Alucard's.
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ps2rulezzz | Posted 9/28/2006 11:02:13 AM | message detail
Who would win between squall and ganondorf? Cause I think stats would say squall but I would say ganon.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/28/2006 11:02:46 AM | message detail
Ganon would take him without a problem!

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Kaxon | Posted 9/28/2006 11:03:15 AM | message detail
I'd take Squall in a close one.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/28/2006 11:03:34 AM | message detail
Just like Vincent, Squall would dispose of Ganny with minimal effort!!!
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