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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 370
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/27/2006 1:45:00 PM | message detail |
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1. Vincent > Ganon 2. Zero > Luigi 3. Subby > MC 4. Riku > Yoshi 5. PW > GF The top two are very possible, Subby/MC is certainly within reach, PW/GF has been blown way out of proportion, and Riku/Yoshi falls somewhere inbetween those last two. As for the matches that are essentially in consensus, I'd think Kratos > Ryu is the most likely upset to happen...but I'm not counting on it. --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/27/2006 1:45:40 PM | message detail |
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BTW, if Hayabusa overperforms against Dante, would this topic attribute
it to the Devil Division being overrated or Zero being underrated? Just
curious how people here would pin it... --- Vote for Soma Cruz Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness, Mega Man ZX |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/27/2006 1:45:43 PM | message detail |
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and I really don't get why people would be worried about Riku/Yoshi.. I mean, is there an upset chance? maybe a tiny one, but that's about it. Yoshi is favoured to beat Dante on the board. Dante could arguably beat Sora, let alone Riku. --- xyzzy |
| cyko | Posted 9/27/2006 1:46:08 PM | message detail |
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Oh, no, this is a multi-point match. Vincent is taking out Sonic -- just you wait and see! ^_^ --- i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest. Vincent Valentine to win the Blast Division!! |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/27/2006 1:46:27 PM | message detail |
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BTW, if Hayabusa overperforms against Dante, would this topic
attribute it to the Devil Division being overrated or Zero being
underrated? Just curious how people here would pin it... It's hard to decide which it is because there's chance of it being both, or just one of them. --- "Master using it and you can have this." http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/160/masterjg3.jpg |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/27/2006 1:46:30 PM | message detail |
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I'd feel a lot better about taking Zero to win his fourpack. --- Character Battle V Score - 15/15 points Current Prediction - Lara Croft vs. Alyx Vance |
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/27/2006 1:47:24 PM | message detail |
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Also, I'm a huge PD fan myself, and I hardly cared about
Joanna/Cortana...plus I was supporting the match to be closer than lots
of people were. It was just a bad set-up. --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/27/2006 1:48:49 PM | message detail |
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I would take it more for the Devil Division being over-rated than Zero
being under-rated, but you can't really rule out either...plus, Dante
should be stronger this year than whatever his legitimate value was
last year, so that makes it even more difficult to gauge. --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/27/2006 1:49:12 PM | message detail |
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I wouldn't really chalk it up to anything. unless Dante completely
bombs vs. Hayabusa, I'm not going to worry too much if he underperforms
by 3% or something. to me, that fourpack is more about Yoshi than it is
Dante. we've never had anything close to a good read on Yoshi. --- xyzzy |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/27/2006 1:49:48 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I said before that Yoshi/Sora would
have been the debated match. I don't see where the Riku stuff is coming
from. Even if you take the stats value creativename used for Yoshi
(based on Laharl, which I don't buy), Yoshi is a good step above Riku.
KH2 would have to give Yoshi a significant boost for Riku to even be a
match against Yoshi at that strength. Yoshi is very likely a good deal
stronger. I don't see where the Riku talk is coming from. --- Vote for Soma Cruz Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness, Mega Man ZX |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/27/2006 1:51:09 PM | message detail |
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if Riku jumps from midcarder status to 30% thanks to KH2, I'd hate to
see what Sora could do. that would put him up in the near-elite class
with Vincent and Ganondorf and all them.. after he got doubled up by
Snake. --- xyzzy |
| cyko | Posted 9/27/2006 1:51:11 PM | message detail |
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and I really don't get why people would be worried about
Riku/Yoshi.. I mean, is there an upset chance? maybe a tiny one, but
that's about it. Yoshi is favoured to beat Dante on the board. Dante
could arguably beat Sora, let alone Riku. eh, i'm still banking on Yoshi to win, but all of this recent Kingdom Hearts 2 popularity is makes me a bit nervous. Riku was already even with Frog before Kingdom Hearts 2. i know Yoshi would be able to dispatch of Frog, but Riku is certainly more popular than last year. plus, Yoshi has been involved in so many potential-SFF matches that it's still tough to figure out exactly how strong he is. --- i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest. Vincent Valentine to win the Blast Division!! |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/27/2006 1:51:28 PM | message detail |
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You people want to believe this Devil Division overratedness so much, and yet you'll be so disappointed! --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/27/2006 1:52:44 PM | message detail |
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Eh, I think Yoshi is really around 29-30% and I think Sora would beat him in a struggle. Though, I wouldn't put Riku that close to Sora. --- Lara Croft vs. Alyx Vance / Bracket: Lara Croft / Vote: Abstain (14/15) Tomorrow / Bracket: Solid Snake / Vote: Solid Snake |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/27/2006 1:53:45 PM | message detail |
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I've said it before. Sora will be a force to be reckoned with after KH2. I'd take him over Yoshi. --- Character Battle V Score - 15/15 points Current Prediction - Lara Croft vs. Alyx Vance |
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/27/2006 1:56:02 PM | message detail |
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Hey now, I've questioned myself how much the Devil Division really was
over-rated alot, and I'm one of its biggest supporters. I don't think
it was a whole lot, seeing as how I have Vincent > Ganon and now
knowing how Marle performed against Aeris (though we never had an idea
where Marle was before, granted)...but I'm still rather convinced it
was just enough to do something. Just nothing too big. --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/27/2006 1:56:34 PM | message detail |
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Sora > Yoshi > Riku --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/27/2006 1:56:42 PM | message detail |
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You people want to believe this Devil Division overratedness so much, and yet you'll be so disappointed! You didn't even need to comment on this matter!!! --- Vote for Soma Cruz Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness, Mega Man ZX |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/27/2006 1:57:01 PM | message detail |
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I would hope no one would think it would be massively overrated. It's around like 2% if it is. --- "Master using it and you can have this." http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/160/masterjg3.jpg |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/27/2006 1:57:19 PM | message detail |
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But the point is no one cared about Cortana/Joanna with the exception of Moltar cause hes a big Perfect Dark fan. To set the record straight, though I am a fan of PD, I could give two craps about that match. The only Round 1 match in the female half that I even remotely cared for was Kairi/Claire, and not because I am a fan of either. --- Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded. Lara vs. Alyx - Bracket: Lara - Vote: Lara (14/15) |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/27/2006 1:57:45 PM | message detail |
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I believe in the Devil Division overrated. But I still took Vincent. It's one of those things where I don't want it to be the case, but my pessimism will not allow me to think otherwise. --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/27/2006 1:58:04 PM | message detail |
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I was a big fan of Zelda/Carmen, I have to say. 100,000 individual votes!! --- "Master using it and you can have this." http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/160/masterjg3.jpg |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/27/2006 2:01:37 PM | message detail |
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Though, I do think Vincent will boost no matter how you look at it. I
mean, Yuna boosted from FFX-2 pretty good and Dante boosted from DMC2
as well. --- Lara Croft vs. Alyx Vance / Bracket: Lara Croft / Vote: Abstain (14/15) Tomorrow / Bracket: Solid Snake / Vote: Solid Snake |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/27/2006 2:05:03 PM | message detail |
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I would hope no one would think it would be massively overrated. It's around like 2% if it is. I've noticed that this topic is notorious for using "2%" to describe every factor. I guess it's so more people would be willing to accept arguments, or to begrudgingly accept the argument yourself if you're really against it. No more! It's time to grow some balls! The Devil Division is overrated! <_<; --- Vote for Soma Cruz Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness, Mega Man ZX |
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/27/2006 2:05:24 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, Vincent is boosting without a doubt, but how much and from what
value is the big question, not to mention where Ganon really should be
and if Wii/LoZ:TP hype will help him out any are important questions
too. --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/27/2006 2:06:37 PM | message detail |
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vincents ohoudl be around undadjjsted frog its so ovraraterd! --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/27/2006 2:08:18 PM | message detail |
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I've noticed that this topic is notorious for using "2%" to describe
every factor. I guess it's so more people would be willing to accept
arguments, or to begrudgingly accept the argument yourself if you're
really against it. No more! It's time to grow some balls! The Devil
Division is overrated! I use 2% frequently because it tends to be in the middle of two extremes. I do think the Devil Division is overrated, but it's really not by that much. If you drop everyone by 2%, then you don't really find anything out of the ordinary like you do now. Dante's boost from DMC3 is a much more reasonable 3%, Terra's under Big Boss before any adjustment to Ganon is made, Vincent is dead even with Ganon before an adjustment (he's underrated), and Squall isn't knocking on Bowser's door anymore (I know I wouldn't have taken Squall over Bowser or even have that being all that close). 2% just works, yo!! --- "Master using it and you can have this." http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/160/masterjg3.jpg |
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/27/2006 2:11:41 PM | message detail |
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I know last year my adjustment for the division was like 3%, give or
take (I think I took the average of several characters; values from the
year before and just went with that on Vincent, I don't remember), but
I do think it was too big of an adjustment now -- not to mention a
rather innaccurate way to do that, heh. I would say a percent or two
would be best said about the division now if it's over-rated at all,
and though I maintain it's over-rated the chance that it's not looks
better now that Aeris/Marle has occured. --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/27/2006 2:11:51 PM | message detail |
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And pics do matter! Sometimes by even more than 2%! There. I said it. And what? Yeah, I'm on travel and getting ready to hit the bar! I'm in a carefree mood! --- Vote for Soma Cruz Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness, Mega Man ZX |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/27/2006 2:13:13 PM | message detail |
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So what are you lot expecting Lara to get on Chun-Li, considering today's performance? (BTW, 2K6 Lara is likely stronger than 2004 Lara) --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Z1m Zum, Z1m Zum...our guru champ. |
| Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 9/27/2006 2:15:10 PM | message detail |
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I don't know, I see a 64-65% win for Chun Li. I think Lara is better than 2004. --- Let the snow fall deep, the rain drive down, and the wind buffet my cloak. I care not for I've a road worth walking ~ Drizzt Do'Urden |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/27/2006 2:16:33 PM | message detail |
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I see Lara hitting the 40% range. Like between 38-42. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Z1m Zum, Z1m Zum...our guru champ. |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/27/2006 2:17:10 PM | message detail |
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I think Chun Li takes it with 64%, which would make her stronger than 2k3 Zelda. Yes I do want to overrate my little fighter girl >_> --- Supporter of Alucard. |
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/27/2006 2:17:44 PM | message detail |
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Gut tells me Lara's gonna get around 40%, but I wanna look at the stats more before I really predict on that. --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/27/2006 2:19:32 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I see Chun-Li getting between 58-62%. Zelda herself only getting
62% in 2k3 does caution me against expecting Chun-Li from beating Lara
Croft too much. --- Vote for Soma Cruz Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness, Mega Man ZX |
| voltch | Posted 9/27/2006 2:21:48 PM | message detail |
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is alyx the weakest thing in a contest setting? --- Z1mZum humiliated me to hell and back in the Best.Series.Ever contest. |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/27/2006 2:22:39 PM | message detail |
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She's Serious Sam level, so not quite. --- Character Battle V Score - 15/15 points Current Prediction - Lara Croft vs. Alyx Vance |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/27/2006 2:24:01 PM | message detail |
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You didn't even need to comment on this matter!!! At least I don't bring it up every time something related to that division is discussed, unlike some people. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/27/2006 2:27:15 PM | message detail |
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******** very confident ******** Gordon over Phoenix Yoshi over Riku Master Chief over Sub-Zero...would be higher if it wasn't for the new MK game coming out right about this time. Zero over Luigi...Zero has the natural advantage, but you don't know what'll happen between contests. Vincent over Ganondorf ******** very nervous ******** The n00b avenger pretty much stated my opinion on the Devil Division = overrated stuff... well, plus that I think DoC/AC is what pushes Vincent ahead of Ganondorf regardless. Of course, I often worry I might've underestimated Ganondorf a bit in the first place. Oh, and I forgot to add...if there's any old-school Square character that does worse with a sprite than with art, it's Crono. I've noticed that this topic is notorious for using "2%" to describe every factor. I guess it's so more people would be willing to accept arguments, or to begrudgingly accept the argument yourself if you're really against it. 2% is pretty significant, though, since that could mean the difference between a 50/50 match and a 53/47 match. --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/27/2006 2:29:00 PM | message detail |
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Just to point something out, let's check out how each Lara we've seen would do against Chun-Li from last year: Lara-2k2: 43.74% Lara-2k3: 45.85% Lara-2k4: 29.92% 2k2 is probably wrong because, well, it's 2k2 -- we've seen Claire and Kasumi fail the test of time thus far, and we know Lara had only dropped in seeding each contest (and probably strength, too, if it wasn't for my next point). 2k3 probably over-rates her since her movie came out the weekend of her match, and she's above her 2k2 value while making her 2k4 value look like a DRASTIC drop. Her 2k4 value is probably an anomaly due to just the pure size of it -- she should be closer to the first two values in 2k4. In 2k5, she was snubbed, so that's not a good sign...but since then, TRL came out and sold well while receiving great reviews and such, so I wonder how much that should do for her... ...I'm gonna stick around with 42%, I believe...45%, maybe, but I'll be surprised to see her go above that. --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/27/2006 2:30:48 PM | message detail |
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The movie? Gimme a break. If anything, the cause of her being overrated would be Zelda because she faced Mega Man. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/27/2006 2:35:00 PM | message detail |
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Having given much hell to the idea of the Silent Hill movie helping its
series against Fire Emblem, I still think the movie being released that
weekend helped her out. Her movies are bigger and more mainstream than
Silent Hill, and if Lara dropped much in 2k4 than it would be able to
explain the gain between 2k2 and 2k4's drop/anomaly for seemingly no
other reason except maybe variation (which could be it, granted). --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/27/2006 2:36:33 PM | message detail |
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So, wait, I just reread that...is your last post suggesting Zelda
rSFF'd Mega Man? That would be a huge jump she made from 2k3 to 2k5
then (maybe bigger than Link's?). --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/27/2006 2:36:41 PM | message detail |
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Hrm, if Lara was continuing falling between 2K2 and 2K4, think how strong she must've been in '98 or '99! --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/27/2006 2:38:26 PM | message detail |
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NOBLE NINE BREAKER!!! --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/27/2006 2:38:48 PM | message detail |
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it would explain the nonexistent boost for Zelda between 2k3 and 2k5,
not to mention Ganondorf resisting SFF on Samus for the most part. --- xyzzy |
| H__RR____H | Posted 9/27/2006 2:39:55 PM | message detail |
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Also, as I'm leavin', I just thought of this... ...FACT OR FICTION: Tifa will SFF The Boss. --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/27/2006 2:41:41 PM | message detail |
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Lara vs. Ness, who wins? --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Z1m Zum, Z1m Zum...our guru champ. |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/27/2006 2:44:08 PM | message detail |
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...FACT OR FICTION: Tifa will SFF The Boss. If that ***** SFFs The Boss, the contest will lose all credibility. To be fair, that'd be the longest a contest has gone without losing credibility. Longer than Villains 2K5, anyway. That lost it in the first match. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Z1m Zum, Z1m Zum...our guru champ. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/27/2006 2:49:28 PM | message detail |
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Ness beats Lara. I think Ness vs. Chun Li would be the better match. --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |