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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 368

__Smurf__ | Posted 9/24/2006 2:05:37 PM | message detail
Sub Zero? Wha?

Scorpion has fallen a long way, to the point where he's borderline fodder. I'd expect more of the same from Sub Zero.

I'd call a doubling.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/24/2006 2:06:02 PM | message detail
Even if we have a good value on Ganon this year, we won't have a good value of Yoshi, because after Riku beats Yoshi and Dante, Snake will SFF him into oblivion and make Yoshi look like crap again. >_>
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/24/2006 2:06:08 PM | message detail
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/24/2006 2:06:29 PM | message detail
Zelda > Samus, obviously!


Please tell me that you don't honestly believe that Zelda will be the one to end the noble 9?
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/24/2006 2:06:31 PM | message detail
Too bad the same can't be said for Tidus.

I don't recall there being anything suspect with Tidus last year. He may a bit overrated, but that's the area he's going to be around.

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Draco1214 | Posted 9/24/2006 2:07:27 PM | message detail
Also, if Dante beats Yoshi, then we might just have the worst sprite picture of all time.

Solid **** vs. Viewtiful Dante!
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/24/2006 2:07:39 PM | message detail
Please tell me that you don't honestly believe that Zelda will be the one to end the noble 9?

Notice the "(<<)" afterward? I was trying to convey my disbelief of such a thing through emotion!

But, uh, Ganon would break the Noble Nine before that match ever occurred!

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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/24/2006 2:08:16 PM | message detail
I thought sprite round was changed to round 2! Or am I imagining that?
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Draco1214 | Posted 9/24/2006 2:08:52 PM | message detail
Not for a 64-entry contest.
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ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/24/2006 2:09:09 PM | message detail
Please tell me that you don't honestly believe that Zelda will be the one to end the noble 9?

Zelda can't be the one to end it when Sonic breaks it far sooner.

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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/24/2006 2:09:16 PM | message detail
I don't recall there being anything suspect with Tidus last year. He may a bit overrated, but that's the area he's going to be around.

Explain how somebody can go from being on the brink of the noble 9 in 2002 and 2003. Living up to that reputation aganist Shadow, and choking horribly aganist MM. Then being handed a serving from Kirby, when it should have been him giving out the serving.

You don't go from a near noble to midcarder, especially when the characters from your game have remained consistent.

I mean, if Tidus's 2005 performance is legit. Then Yuna, Auron and Rikku > Tidus. wtf?
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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/24/2006 2:09:51 PM | message detail
Zelda can't be the one to end it when Sonic breaks it far sooner.

Yes, I agree. Sonic will choke aganist CATS.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/24/2006 2:10:11 PM | message detail
It's not like Ceej announces when the sprite round is. If he had for 2k5 you can bet Bowser would have had more support from this board against Snake on paranoia alone.

Villains - 2nd round (32 field)
2005 - Elite Eight (darn you cjay)
Series - 2nd round (32 field)
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/24/2006 2:11:51 PM | message detail
I mean, if Tidus's 2005 performance is legit. Then Yuna, Auron and Rikku > Tidus.

Actually, all those characters are below him in the 2005 stats. Though Auron needs to be higher.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/24/2006 2:12:41 PM | message detail
Ah, yes, Bowser over Snake. It was one of two matches that kept me from winning something in 2005. ;_;

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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/24/2006 2:13:15 PM | message detail
Oh, right. So round 2 is face pics,then.

http://animerpg30.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/rikku.gif

That would be so awesomel if Rikku got that picture!
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Draco1214 | Posted 9/24/2006 2:13:24 PM | message detail
2003 - Sprite Round was the Sweet Sixteen
2004 - Sprite Round was the Sweet Sixteen
2005 - Sprite Round was the Elite Eight

It's always in the later rounds for a 64 entry bracket.

The trend is usually, full body pics followed by face shots and then the sprite round.

...and if Ceej uses the Sprite Round in the Elite Eight like last year...Snake gets it against Mega Man. Oh dear.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/24/2006 2:15:00 PM | message detail
I wonder what Zelda's sprite will look like. o_O
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/24/2006 2:15:21 PM | message detail
Explain how somebody can go from being on the brink of the noble 9 in 2002 and 2003. Living up to that reputation aganist Shadow, and choking horribly aganist MM. Then being handed a serving from Kirby, when it should have been him giving out the serving.

It is the sound of being overrated in 2003! Magus made Ganon and Tidus both seem like they were stronger than they actually were. What happened in subsequent years is that Ganon increased while the other two remained overrated -- but due to 2004, they were given their 2003 values.

I mean, if Tidus's 2005 performance is legit. Then Yuna, Auron and Rikku > Tidus. wtf?

Auron should be higher, much higher. Tidus is above all the others in 2005, even Yuna adjusted for being underrated would very likely still end up beneath Tidus.

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ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/24/2006 2:15:38 PM | message detail
Explain how somebody can go from being on the brink of the noble 9 in 2002 and 2003. Living up to that reputation aganist Shadow, and choking horribly aganist MM. Then being handed a serving from Kirby, when it should have been him giving out the serving.

You don't go from a near noble to midcarder, especially when the characters from your game have remained consistent.

I mean, if Tidus's 2005 performance is legit. Then Yuna, Auron and Rikku > Tidus. wtf?


Does it hurt always being horrifically and amazingly wrong?

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Draco1214 | Posted 9/24/2006 2:16:22 PM | message detail
Zelda would get her LTTP sprite, I'm assuming.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/24/2006 2:17:48 PM | message detail
In all likelihood, Zelda would get her sprite from ALttP -- http://www.vgws.com/images/sprite/snes/zelda.gif

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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/24/2006 2:18:03 PM | message detail
That explains 2003. But what about 2002? You don't break 40% on a character more popular than Cloud if you aren't worth anything.

And in 2004, Tidus performed according to his x-stat against Shadow. It's insane to say that they were proportionately overrated. >_<
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/24/2006 2:18:05 PM | message detail
WHOA, just noticed something from the 2k5 stats that I should have caught long ago:

Bowser (2005c) VS Tidus (2005c)

Bowser has a strength of 36.54.
Tidus has a strength of 29.63.

Bowser wins with 59.46% of the vote!
A win of 16,941 with 89,586 total votes cast.

Ganondorf (2005c) VS Yuna (2005c)

Ganondorf has a strength of 33.64.
Yuna has a strength of 26.10.

Ganondorf wins with 61.21% of the vote!
A win of 22,033 with 98,301 total votes cast.


...I'm liking Bowser > Ganon much more looking at that.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/24/2006 2:18:33 PM | message detail
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/24/2006 2:20:17 PM | message detail
Yuna shouldn't be that far off from Tidus, really.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/24/2006 2:21:50 PM | message detail
Not *too* far off, sure...but that close? And note that if Kirby is overrated AT ALL, Bowser gets that much closer to G-dorf's percentage on Yuna? Heck, Snake/Bowser doesn't even factor into the equation here.

...I would have probably taken Bowser over Vince, though. Bah!
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/24/2006 2:24:09 PM | message detail
For a bit more reasoning to that, Yuna is featured prominently in two games, one of which she is the main character. It helps that she is both likable and really good in battle, too. Tidus gets the nod between the two, definitely, but Yuna after FFX-2 should be near Tidus, I think. The two aren't going to be in two separate strength tiers at least.

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__Smurf__ | Posted 9/24/2006 2:26:47 PM | message detail
1 Snake
8 Zero

4 Tifa Lockhart
5 Knuckles

3 Ganondorf
6 Vincent

2 Squall Leonhart
7 Bowser

A Winner is _________

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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/24/2006 2:35:12 PM | message detail
Snake easily wins that division.
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lolilikeff8 | Posted 9/24/2006 2:36:57 PM | message detail
Ganondorf, baby!
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Draco1214 | Posted 9/24/2006 2:38:07 PM | message detail
Snake > Zero
Tifa > Knuckles
Vincent > Ganon
Squall > Bowser

Snake > Tifa
Vincent > Squall

Snake > Vincent
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/24/2006 2:39:23 PM | message detail
1 Snake
4 Tifa Lockhart


3 Ganondorf
7 Bowser


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transience | Posted 9/24/2006 2:40:49 PM | message detail
Aeris vs. Zelda with sprite pictures?

oh man, that would be beautiful.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/24/2006 3:20:55 PM | message detail
KH, to me that makes Bowser and Ganon look dead-even, and not so much at favoring Bowser...

...but then, once I factor in Kirby...

...yeah, I agree, Bowser should have the small advantage after all, heh. It would still be a matter of whether Bowser's fanbase would be too loyal to give up the advantage to a leech like Ganon...or if LoZ's dominance everywhere else on this site (and generally elsewhere on the internet too Nintendo-wise) would give Ganon a big enough nudge to overcome that, alongside Ganon > Bowser in SSBM.


Yeesh, I've been on both sides of this arguement before, and I don't know which one's actually right...but by the next contest, Ganon > Bowser is a lock anyway. This year though, man, no telling who finishes ahead or if one finishes far enough ahead to call it a safe win or not.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/24/2006 4:08:11 PM | message detail
Excuse me if I'm late but Master Chief will not double a mid-carder known as Sub-Zero.

Sub Zero? Wha?

Scorpion has fallen a long way, to the point where he's borderline fodder. I'd expect more of the same from Sub Zero.

I'd call a doubling.



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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/24/2006 4:10:04 PM | message detail
but by the next contest, Ganon > Bowser is a lock anyway.

Bowser as a playable character in SMG might have something to say about that.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/24/2006 4:11:17 PM | message detail
Bowser as a playable character in SMG might have something to say about that.

For the love of everything, if only.
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Lopen | Posted 9/24/2006 4:51:55 PM | message detail
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30696817&page=1

I know, it's just a "board vote" thing, and I should take it with a grain of salt... but this still is making me feel pretty good about picking Cortana tomorrow. I mean, I'm just thinking... Cortana is holding tough with Joanna Dark on the Halo hating board 8... the same Halo hating board 8 where Joanna's the 2 or 3:1 bracket favorite?

I know it's only like 60 votes in the grand scheme of things, but still. You see where I'm coming from, right?
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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/24/2006 4:55:34 PM | message detail
Nope. =O
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/24/2006 4:56:43 PM | message detail
Anything that kid does on this board should be taken with far more than a single grain of salt.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/24/2006 4:56:59 PM | message detail
It's harder and harder for me to see Cortana pulling out a win. If anything, pictures matter *so* much more in a fodder/fodder match...and I can't see too many people voting for that thing on the match picture.

I mean, yeah, I'm voting for Cortana...but I'm a massive Halo mark. I have yet to vote against Master Chief, after all...
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Draco1214 | Posted 9/24/2006 4:57:23 PM | message detail
If she wasn't the Navi of the Halo universe, I'd have considered her for the upset.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/24/2006 5:00:34 PM | message detail
So, what does Cortana do? Is she super important to the game?
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Draco1214 | Posted 9/24/2006 5:02:35 PM | message detail
Imagine a less annoying version of Navi that helps out Master Chief. That's basically Cortana.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/24/2006 5:04:33 PM | message detail
Cortana is basically the voice that talks in Master Chief's head constantly throughout the game -- giving him advice, telling him where to go, making smart quips, that sort of thing. She's an AI construct, and is actually fairly important to Halo's single-player storyline...thing is, this is a game that's played mainly for the multiplayer.

I would vote Cortana over the Chief in a heartbeat, but aside from anti-voters I'm definitely in the minority on that one.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/24/2006 5:04:55 PM | message detail
Hmm...but...19% on Mario. >_>
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BeTheMan | Posted 9/24/2006 5:07:03 PM | message detail
I don't expect Cortana to be strong or anything, but I'm still surprised there hasn't been more debate over this match. I can't understand why Perfect Dark Zero is expected to turn X-Box voters against Halo. I mean, Halo is to X-Box what Zelda is to Nintendo, is it not? And sure, the original Perfect Dark was a great game in its day, but does anyone still care about it today? Joanna might win, but I can't imagine a scenario where she blows Cortana away.
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Draco1214 | Posted 9/24/2006 5:07:18 PM | message detail
I actually think Mario SFFd Joanna, due to her biggest game being on the N64. If OOT can do it to Goldeneye, then what's to stop Mario from doing it to Joanna?
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