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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 367
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/21/2006 1:02:18 PM | message detail |
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So you're calling Raiden a leach now? Naked would be far less of a
leach than Ganon is. If Solid put up 88% on Naked, well there's no need
to say what I'd do as it would never happen. So if everyone is so
opposed to leaches being in contests, we may as well stop nominating
Ganon. --- Explicit Content Philadelphia's Path to Cheer Up Emo Kids (1-1) - Next week @ SanFran 49ers. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/21/2006 1:04:45 PM | message detail |
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Ganon may be a leech, but he's not a clone. Raiden may be a leech, but he's not a clone. Naked Snake is a clone, and that's all you need concern yourself with. Clones just don't get in these things. And stop spelling it 'leach'. =/ --- Commit it to memory. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/21/2006 1:05:00 PM | message detail |
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I'm not saying he wouldn't win, I KNOW Solid would win, but I'll be
damned if he comes anywhere close to that. Anyone who hadn't played MGS
would probably go with Solid, but for those who did, they'd choose who
they like more. --- Explicit Content Philadelphia's Path to Cheer Up Emo Kids (1-1) - Next week @ SanFran 49ers. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/21/2006 1:06:46 PM | message detail |
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Hey KARMA HUNTER LEACH LEACH LEACH LEACH LEACH. >_> And I still don't believe that he's a Solid clone, looks = character. But meh, whatever. --- Explicit Content Philadelphia's Path to Cheer Up Emo Kids (1-1) - Next week @ SanFran 49ers. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/21/2006 1:07:53 PM | message detail |
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we may as well stop nominating Ganon. HAY GUYS HOW ABOUT NO. >> --- "Master using it and you can have this." http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/160/masterjg3.jpg |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/21/2006 1:08:31 PM | message detail |
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Ganon sucks, get over it HM !! --- Explicit Content Philadelphia's Path to Cheer Up Emo Kids (1-1) - Next week @ SanFran 49ers. |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/21/2006 1:23:07 PM | message detail |
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I hate reading MGS stuff... I know I'm getting spoiled on the game and even though I'll likely never play it, well, grrrr. looks like the afterschool vote goes to Kerrigan! Terra may fall under 60% soon. --- xyzzy |
| consolefreak | Posted 9/21/2006 1:44:05 PM | message detail |
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Incorrect -- this didn't come up until MGS. The two original Metal
Gear games actually contradict stated facts in MGS, hence why it needed
to be retconned. Say what now? What is retconned exactly then? Which would mean he has more to him than just being a Solid Snake leach, this is my entire point. People like him for something other than looking like Solid, which should warrant him a spot in this contest. I'm arguing against the assertion that he's a Solid leach. Of course he would get some votes on his own. It's just that he would get a whole lot of them, if not a majority, for looking like Snake. If you want a fair reading of Naked Snake's own strength, look at Big Boss. This is of course not exact, since Big Boss looked nothing like his MGS3 counterpart. Sadly, a Naked Snake picture would cause the opposite. I love all MGSes, and I love Naked Snake. But you just can't argue that Naked Snake would be fair game. --- CB: 9/9. Today: Terra vs. Kerrigan Tomorrow: KOS-MOS vs. Amy Rose |
| consolefreak | Posted 9/21/2006 1:47:48 PM | message detail |
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In fact, Solid Snake's rather large boost from MGS3 indicates just how connected the two are. Hell, when I vote Snake I just factor in MGS3. I don't actively do it, but I still do it. It's subconsciously. Or something. --- CB: 9/9. Today: Terra vs. Kerrigan Tomorrow: KOS-MOS vs. Amy Rose |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/21/2006 1:48:53 PM | message detail |
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Nothing that you've read is exactly a spoiler, tranny. NOT THAT YOU'LL EVER KNOW LOLZ Say what now? What is retconned exactly then? *NOW I NEED A MGS SPOILER WARNING LOL* The original Metal Gear games make no reference to Big Boss being Solid Snake's father, but in MGS Snake says that Big Boss told him that he was his father (which Campbell is also aware of). Big Boss being Snake's father is a retcon, hence Snake being a clone of him is also a retcon. LOL NO MORE SPOILERS --- Commit it to memory. |
| GrapefruitKing | Posted 9/21/2006 1:59:08 PM | message detail |
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Yes, Terra is getting killed by the afterschool vote. My oracle
prediction likes this. Let's just hope Terra doesn't get the second
night vote and go back up. --- CB5 Oracle Challenge - Today's prediction: Terra with 54.79% |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/21/2006 1:59:08 PM | message detail |
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- Camera angles - Big the cat - Some of the voices. Especially Cream. - No story - Can't save - Repetitive Well-done, Smurf. As for the on-going discussion...I'd love to see Naked Snake in and there's no doubt in my mind that he'd outdo Raiden against Solid Snake. However, IGN's projection would be way off too. I dunno how I feel about his eligibility -- I certainly wouldn't mind, but the MMX issue seems like a big contradiction to it as well. For those saying he looks exactly the same as Solid though and that's their main reason...give him his camo and an eye-patch shot, then some woodland or striker face-paint, and voila! Still similar, yeah, but no worse than Sonic/Shadow in that aspect. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/21/2006 2:08:30 PM | message detail |
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Solid Snake: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Solid_Snake_%28MGS2%29.jpg Naked Snake: http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1093/metalgearsolid3subsistence0jv.jpg These would probably be the two pictures used in such a match. --- Commit it to memory. |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/21/2006 2:19:34 PM | message detail |
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XD, if those two were the match pic it would be fantastic. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Z1m Zum, Z1m Zum...our guru champ. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/21/2006 2:39:34 PM | message detail |
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I just realized Kerrigan won an update at 17:30:01 (she shaved seven votes). --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/21/2006 2:43:28 PM | message detail |
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This afterschool vote seems simply brutal this year. I'm fairly sure
Master Chief would win a 15 minute update against Crono if the match
were held again. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/21/2006 2:43:42 PM | message detail |
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Well...this match is pretty boring. At least tommorrow I'll be able to laugh at how weak Amy is! --- Moltar Status: Feeling good and hot-blooded. Terra vs. Kerrigan - Bracket: Terra - Vote: Terra (8/9) |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/21/2006 2:46:05 PM | message detail |
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wow, Kerrigan almost won an update there. looks like Terra will bleed percentage throughout the night. --- xyzzy |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/21/2006 2:47:06 PM | message detail |
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This makes me wonder how the Chief will do against Sub-Zero and Auron (if he makes it past round 1). --- Character Battle V Score - 9/9 points Current Prediction - Terra Branford vs. Sarah Kerrigan |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/21/2006 2:48:14 PM | message detail |
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You guys are acting like we haven't already SEEN Naked Snake in this
contest, Ceej allowed him to be in, he just gave him the name of Big
Boss, which is why he needs to be nominated as Naked Snake. I've believed since the beginning that he did get more nominations than not as Naked Snake. Ceej just gave us Big Boss instead. No matter how many times we nominated him as Naked Snake, I think Ceej would put him down as Big Boss. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/21/2006 2:48:20 PM | message detail |
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| THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/21/2006 2:49:03 PM | message detail |
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wow, Kerrigan almost won an update there. She won one 15 minutes ago. Is Kerrigan getting rallying or something? --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/21/2006 2:49:51 PM | message detail |
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She can keep bleeding percentage until around 58%, then Terra needs to stabilize! (Get me my Crew point!!) --- "Master using it and you can have this." http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/160/masterjg3.jpg |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/21/2006 2:50:22 PM | message detail |
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So I just saw the first post. Tron Bonne > all. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/21/2006 2:50:25 PM | message detail |
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Kerrigan down to 55% plz! --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Z1m Zum, Z1m Zum...our guru champ. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/21/2006 2:51:03 PM | message detail |
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Oh man how awesome would it be to see Subby get a 1500 vote lead, then
the after school vote hits and he wins by 2000? I'd say very! --- Explicit Content Philadelphia's Path to Cheer Up Emo Kids (1-1) - Next week @ SanFran 49ers. |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/21/2006 2:52:14 PM | message detail |
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At the 17:50 mark, this match has 74448 votes. To compare with other matches at the same time: Samus/Nidoran F - 85940 Ada/Jade - 73464 Kairi/Claire - 81573 The Boss/Celes - 88399 ...What in the world is up with these sucky vote totals? It's FFVI and StarCraft. They should not be outdoing Ada/Jade by 1000 votes. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/21/2006 2:53:13 PM | message detail |
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whoa, I didn't even notice that one. dunno how I missed it! --- xyzzy |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/21/2006 2:54:23 PM | message detail |
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as for rallying, I'd think there would be more votes than this if there
were. these two characters are just weak as hell and no one cares to
vote for them. --- xyzzy |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/21/2006 3:14:40 PM | message detail |
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Since this match is so boring, on the subject of Ganon/Vincent, I'm
starting to buy into the Ganon is overrated theory. Look at his contest
history. In hindsight, he's never really been all that impressive. He
lost to Magus, who's been exposed as a fraud since and he did a
whopping 2% better on Alucard than Sora did. Sure, you can attribute
that to an Alucard drop in 2005, but how much do you really think he
dropped? As far as the Nintendo boost goes, I don't think the Zelda crew got as much of it as, say, the Mario characters. Zelda only increased by 3% between 2003 and 2005, not to mention Link only did 1% better on Cloud in 2005. I don't know how to do the calculations, but I'm pretty sure that through Alucard 2003, he's at about 30% on BL before the Nintendo boost. If he gained 3% like Zelda did, he's at 33%, which is pretty much exactly where 2005 stats have him without taking into account Samus/Ganondorf SFF. Basically, this is telling me Samus really didn't SFF him. Vincent's above this by a pretty good amount, and he's had a new game out since then. I think Vincent might surprise us all in a few days. --- Character Battle V Score - 9/9 points Current Prediction - Terra Branford vs. Sarah Kerrigan |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/21/2006 3:21:11 PM | message detail |
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I don't know if Ganon being overrated is really a theory; it's a
question of whether or not Vincent is overrated along with him,
methinks. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), FE8, Castlevania: LoI |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/21/2006 3:24:19 PM | message detail |
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eh, if Ganon is overrated, so is Bowser. and Bowser almost beat Snake, picture or not. --- xyzzy |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/21/2006 3:25:55 PM | message detail |
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Even if Vincent did overperform on Crono, I'd attribute that more to
the AC leak than anything, personally, meaning Vincent's right where
he's supposed to be. If Bowser was overrated thanks to the Snake
sprite, Vincent has a good shot at ranking #10 at the end of this
contest. --- Character Battle V Score - 9/9 points Current Prediction - Terra Branford vs. Sarah Kerrigan |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/21/2006 3:28:39 PM | message detail |
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I still say that Ganon's victory against Auron is the most impressive thing he's done in these contests. --- Vote for Carmen Sandiego in SC2k6 Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/21/2006 3:32:33 PM | message detail |
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lol @ "leach" --- Scooped in a coupe, Snoop we got news/Your girl was trickin' while you was draped in your county blues I ain't been out a second/And already gotta do some mutha****in chin checkin |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/21/2006 3:34:40 PM | message detail |
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yeah, more impressive than Vincent's over Dante, that's for sure. old
numbers don't even matter to me, it's just a matter of if DOC/AC is
enough to boost him above what Ganon put on Auron. --- xyzzy |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/21/2006 3:35:48 PM | message detail |
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Honestly, just looking at Magus makes me say that Ganondorf is right around where he should be in the stats. --- Terra vs. Sarah Kerrigan / Bracket: Terra / Vote: Terra (8/9) Tomorrow / Bracket: KOS-MOS / Vote: Amy Rose |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/21/2006 3:36:23 PM | message detail |
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54% on Auron isn't as big a deal as you make it seem. --- Scooped in a coupe, Snoop we got news/Your girl was trickin' while you was draped in your county blues I ain't been out a second/And already gotta do some mutha****in chin checkin |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/21/2006 3:37:14 PM | message detail |
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The only thing that you could conclude that Vincent is overrated is if
he got nothing but rSFF and SFF against Squall and Crono, meaning you
doubt his strength against regular Nintendo characters. But theres no
real proof to either characters' overrated theory. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/21/2006 3:39:42 PM | message detail |
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Both Bowser and Ganondorf are overrated in the VC, methinks. The
problem comes from people thinking that they're overrated
proportionally, which is really kinda out there. But yeah, in 2005 I take Ganondorf over Vincent, no question. 54% on Auron > 54% on Dante, and I'd take Big Boss over Terra...it's what Vinnie has had since them that gave him the nod in my bracket. Though for argument's sake, if you put a gun to my head I'd predict Ganondork to win comfortably. This is an upset pick. --- Commit it to memory. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/21/2006 3:39:54 PM | message detail |
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54% on pre-KH2 Auron sounds good and all but we've never really had an 'accurate' reading on him. --- Terra vs. Sarah Kerrigan / Bracket: Terra / Vote: Terra (8/9) Tomorrow / Bracket: KOS-MOS / Vote: Amy Rose |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/21/2006 3:41:17 PM | message detail |
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You kiddin me? I'd take Dante over pre-KH2 Auron in a heartbeat. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/21/2006 3:41:25 PM | message detail |
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so you're telling me you'd have taken Dante over him? --- xyzzy |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/21/2006 3:41:47 PM | message detail |
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heh, interesting. only Lopen and EC would go there. --- xyzzy |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/21/2006 3:42:13 PM | message detail |
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I'd take Auron over Dante for sure. --- Terra vs. Sarah Kerrigan / Bracket: Terra / Vote: Terra (8/9) Tomorrow / Bracket: KOS-MOS / Vote: Amy Rose |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/21/2006 3:42:52 PM | message detail |
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Ryu (SF) vs Auron --- Scooped in a coupe, Snoop we got news/Your girl was trickin' while you was draped in your county blues I ain't been out a second/And already gotta do some mutha****in chin checkin |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/21/2006 3:43:29 PM | message detail |
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Since this match is so boring, on the subject of Ganon/Vincent, I'm
starting to buy into the Ganon is overrated theory. Look at his contest
history. In hindsight, he's never really been all that impressive. Ganon beat down Alucard with 57%, who was able to beat Kirby just one year before -- Kirby now ranks higher than Ganon in the stats. Ganon also beat Auron with 54% of the vote, which was certainly more impressive than Vincent's 54% victory over Dante. He also put up 65% on Diablo in the villains contest. I'm not sure how his contest history is not impressive; he most certainly has done some nice things. The problem is that everyone wants to attach Ganon to Magus. Yes, we know Magus was overrated; there were plenty of signs present that told us he was overrated. The signs for Ganon being overrated through his matches just aren't there for me. Magus being overrated has no effect on Ganon at this point. There has been a Nintendo boost, there has been the announcement of Twilight Princess, and there has been a huge improvement for Nintendo since 2003 -- the year of Square. As far as the Nintendo boost goes, I don't think the Zelda crew got as much of it as, say, the Mario characters. Zelda only increased by 3% between 2003 and 2005, not to mention Link only did 1% better on Cloud in 2005. The fact that Link gained 1% at his strength is very notable, not to mention that if the Advent Children leaked helped Cloud, then it's even more impressive. Their boosts may not have been as large as the Mario crew, but they really never needed to be for Ganon to be underrated in the stats. which is pretty much exactly where 2005 stats have him without taking into account Samus/Ganondorf SFF. Basically, this is telling me Samus really didn't SFF him. Samus not SFFing Ganon is but one reason that Ganon can be underrated. The value that was given to Samus is in no way concrete. If Samus is indirectly stronger than Mario, then Ganon is going to reap the benefits of that by increasing as well. It is hard to place Ganon in the stats, sure, but it's not because he is potentially overrated. It's because he has plenty of places he could be above his current 2005 value. --- "Master using it and you can have this." http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/160/masterjg3.jpg |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/21/2006 3:43:39 PM | message detail |
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I'd take Auron over Ryu last year and definitely this year. --- Terra vs. Sarah Kerrigan / Bracket: Terra / Vote: Terra (8/9) Tomorrow / Bracket: KOS-MOS / Vote: Amy Rose |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/21/2006 3:44:02 PM | message detail |
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And if you go by Tails, Auron's really
got the advantage on Dante...though that was in Sonic's worst year, and
I'd expect Tails to boost along with him. Not that I'd expect many to
consider pre-DMC3 Dante on Auron's level, but post-DMC3 Dante... ...not to mention I think Auron's weakened a little since his 2k3 days, much like Tidus (though we'll never know with him). --- Commit it to memory. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/21/2006 3:44:04 PM | message detail |
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I'd take Auron over Dante before KH2 without even thinking. --- "Master using it and you can have this." http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/160/masterjg3.jpg |