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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 364

TheCruelAngel | Posted 9/17/2006 4:04:11 PM | message detail
Terribly so. ;_;
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Kratos_42 | Posted 9/17/2006 4:22:40 PM | message detail
So where's the STEVE STEVE STEVE now, Steve?

Mebe it should be KRATOS KRATOS KRATOS, eh?

Tarnishing Sushi-Xs good name, you *******.
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Dark115 | Posted 9/17/2006 4:34:44 PM | message detail
seeing how well the Boss is doing, I'd have to wonder how well Meryl would do. She had a pretty big role in MGS1 and I'm pretty sure MGS fans actually care about her. So yeah
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/17/2006 4:35:10 PM | message detail
The best thing about today's match is Steve falling early.

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Philadelphia's Path to Cheer Up Emo Kids (1-0) - Next week vs. New York Giants.
TheCruelAngel | Posted 9/17/2006 4:36:08 PM | message detail
Steve fell today? XD

*Hipthrusts*
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Squall: ...Flower.
Heroic Mario | Posted 9/17/2006 5:15:04 PM | message detail
There is no worry about Link losing! Hype alone will push him over the edge, clearly!

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/17/2006 5:16:07 PM | message detail
The hype will also be pushing ganon to male champion status.... m i rite?

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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/17/2006 5:18:59 PM | message detail
We can hope. ;_;

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/17/2006 5:19:47 PM | message detail
I still think he has an oustide shot at SNOIC without TP... even if Sonic is the favorite.

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Philadelphia's Path to Cheer Up Emo Kids (1-1) - Next week @ SanFran 49ers.
TheCruelAngel | Posted 9/17/2006 5:20:14 PM | message detail
I just realized I've got Ganon losing to Crono. >_<
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Squall: ...Flower.
Heroic Mario | Posted 9/17/2006 5:20:40 PM | message detail
I think it's still possible, too. Of course, my confidence in it happening is very low, but I'm still holding out hope that he's able to pull it off.

Hey, Nintendo, give us some Ganon TP artwork before the match! >>

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Lopen | Posted 9/17/2006 5:21:29 PM | message detail
Wait wait wait... TP was delayed not only past Vincent/Sonic, but also beyond the Battle Royale? Damn, I wish I'd known this, I'd have taken Link to get second.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/17/2006 5:22:39 PM | message detail
Twilight Princess comes out November 19th and the Link v. Cloud match is scheduled to take place on November 18th. If there's even one day delay, then the match would take place on the day Twilight Princess comes out. Link would be in a very advantageous position then.

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TheCruelAngel | Posted 9/17/2006 5:23:22 PM | message detail
Ceejay, shut the site down for a day!
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Squall: ...Flower.
Tai | Posted 9/17/2006 5:24:08 PM | message detail
You know, I picked Celes, and I honestly thought I had The Boss. Maybe I need to check my bracket more closely next time... :(


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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/17/2006 5:25:52 PM | message detail
Heh, several tournaments actually have had one day delays. Sometimes just for fun, sometimes because of matches with errors. It's likely enough that we'll see another this year.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 9/17/2006 5:33:52 PM | message detail
Right, but we're operating under the false notion that Link needs Twilight Princess to beat Cloud. Zelda did just win the series contest, after all; it isn't as if we're Squarefaqs again.


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Lopen | Posted 9/17/2006 5:35:11 PM | message detail
Well, I call Link the favorite either way, but I'd have gambled on Advent Children helping Cloud enough to pull out a win had I not been bullied by Twilight Princess.
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LinkLegend27 | Posted 9/17/2006 5:36:09 PM | message detail
Wasn't there a delay in the sc2k4 contest after the first round, entering the second round?
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/17/2006 5:36:30 PM | message detail
Except you can't exactly say its a false notion, silly.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/17/2006 5:38:59 PM | message detail
Right, but we're operating under the false notion that Link needs Twilight Princess to beat Cloud. Zelda did just win the series contest, after all; it isn't as if we're Squarefaqs again.

It's not for certain that Link would need it, but Cloud certainly does have a lot going into his favor to make this match 50/50 without it.

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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/17/2006 5:41:03 PM | message detail
KH2 + American AC release + FFXII (I don't care if he isn't in it) + PS3 releasing a day or so before the match + TP releasing a day *after* the match = CLOUD WINS!

You forgot DoC.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 9/17/2006 5:42:16 PM | message detail
Well, I think I just did.

Cloud's lost two straight matches to Link now, and by a greater margin the second time around. I'm not against saying he has a chance, because most people are always willing to admit that he always has a chance. But, to claim that Cloud is the favorite simply because Twilight Princess won't be out, is indeed, a false notion.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/17/2006 5:44:20 PM | message detail

Cloud's lost two straight matches to Link now, and by a greater margin the second time around. I'm not against saying he has a chance, because most people are always willing to admit that he always has a chance. But, to claim that Cloud is the favorite simply because Twilight Princess won't be out, is indeed, a false notion.


Except Cloud isn't the favorite because TP won't be out, he is the favorite because he has 5 ****ing things going for him since the last contest.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 9/17/2006 5:45:55 PM | message detail
Cloud himself has his recurring cameo role in Kingdom Hearts and Advent Children, which isn't exactly new anymore, either. Even if at one point, say a few days after its illegal release on the internet, you could believe such a thing to have an effect against another popular square character...that's over now. Final Fantasy XII doesn't feature Cloud, so the amount of help it can do him can't be too much more than minimal.

Then again, on the other hand, there's the valid argument that even minimal differences are enough to bridge the gap between the two superstars of the contests. With that theory in mind though, you can't invalidate the effect of Twilight Princess even if it is a day away. If you're looking to buy THE game you've been waiting for a long time, you can expect people have it in the back of their minds at least one day before they buy it.
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Big Bob | Posted 9/17/2006 5:48:11 PM | message detail
I just noticed something about the BSE contest.

Even though it was the most debated division, the Snake Division was the only one where the matches went exactly according to seeding.
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/17/2006 6:12:11 PM | message detail
Match VII: (3) Jill Valentine vs. (6) Sheena Fujibayashi

Contest History

Jill Valentine


Summer 2002
Defeated Kirby, 53.34% - 46.66%
Defeated Bomberman, 57.97% - 42.03%
Lost to Link, 27.37% - 72.63%
Ranked: 16th

Summer 2003
Lost to Squall Leonhart, 40.01% - 59.99%
Ranked: 28th

Summer 2004
Lost to Ryu Hayabusa, 49.98% - 50.02%
Ranked: 29th

Sheena Fujibayashi

No Previous Contest Matches

Analysis:

I thought 2k5 would be the last time we would be seeing a ToS character. Jill is from the Resident Evil series. She is one of the seven females that have appeared in more than one contest before though since 2k2 she’s been on a steady decline. Sheena is from Tales of Symphonia and even though she hasn’t made it before the characters that have had all ended up being fodder.

Another easy match Lloyd had trouble defeating Wesker, depending on who you ask Sheena is either stronger or weaker than Lloyd, but there is almost no one that thinks Jill would lose to Wesker and many of them think she would crush them. For Lloyd vs. Sheena I would take Lloyd as the winner. She doesn’t have as big of a role as the other characters do and even though you see her early in the game she doesn’t actually join until much later. Also ToS characters as a whole have probably gone down in strength. ToS is a cult game and the biggest drop in strength for cult games is usually after the first couple of years the game is released and then the true fans of the game will keep it alive.

This will become Jill’s first win since all the way back in 2k2 and this will probably be Jill’s biggest win ever. I can see her doubling Sheena, but 70% will probably be out of reach.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Jill Valentine over Sheena Fujibayashi

charmander6000’s Prediction: Jill wins, 64.83% - 35.17%

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2006 6:29:36 PM | message detail
I don't think I've ever seen the stats topic this dead. Hell, even the off-season seems to have been busier.

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RockMFR 5 | Posted 9/17/2006 6:44:03 PM | message detail
This is going to be a blowout. I'm a little worried about Jill's past performances (and my spread pick), but this is her first real match against fodder. There is no reason why she shouldn't double in this one.

ToS's strength will be massively decreased this year, and RE should stay steady. Remember, Claire Redfield is pretty much the same strength as Kairi. Jill is stronger than Claire, and Kairi/KH2 is massively stronger than anything from ToS.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2006 6:45:43 PM | message detail
I don't think (reasonable) people are saying Link isn't the favorite...I never thought Cloud was the favorite when I filled out my bracket, that's kind of the point of an 'upset' pick.

But Cloud's gone from "no shot" to "having a shot". That's enough to get excited about in my eyes. I was kinda banking on TP being released not *so* close to the Battle Royale, but the fact that Cloud dodged the bullet in the first place for now makes me optimistic.

FFXII releasing right as Zelda/Aeris happens ain't exactly bad for my Aeris in the Final Four prediction, either!
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LordOfDabu | Posted 9/17/2006 6:47:24 PM | message detail
Usually when it's moving fast it's either because everyone's posting vote updates or because it's turned into a social topic unrelated to the contest, so it's not necessarily a bad thing. Slow moving topics are a lot easier to follow, anyway. :)
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2006 6:49:27 PM | message detail
So basically, we aren't going to see much action until Gordon/Phoenix?

Riku/Yoshi at the earliest?

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2006 6:51:50 PM | message detail
Honestly, I give Kerrigan a much better shot at upsetting Terra than I do Riku of beating Yoshi. I mean, going from losing to Frog to beating Yoshi...the Nintendo boost would have to, frankly, "disappear" for that to happen.

Dante beating Yoshi would surprise me, but at least it's plausible. Riku?

Also, I really don't think Gordon/Phoenix will be close. I'd be stunned if Gordon dropped below 55%.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/17/2006 7:00:42 PM | message detail
Speaking of PW/GF...

...Harmonia, if you see this, tell me if we're still on for the two-week sig bet.
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 9/17/2006 7:04:53 PM | message detail
Am I right in thinking that Terra/Kerrigan is going to be a huge bracket buster for casuals? Terra has the better seed, but I can see a lot of people picking Kerrigan in their brackets (possibly far more than 50%).
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/17/2006 7:05:40 PM | message detail
It's really, really hard for me to accept The Boss as stronger than Ocelot...maybe if Ocelot hadn't been in MGS3, but to think that The Boss is the most popular character in that game not named Snake, it makes me wonder.

If pictures really do matter with MGS, that would be truly something -- and it means Young Ocelot would have beaten Pac-Man! Yeah um something.


While Revolver does have a more enjoyable role in MGS3 than before, I never understood why he had so much praise nor why people liked him the best out of the MGS3 crew -- give me The Boss or Volgin over him, personally. I know Volgin > Revolver wouldn't happen, but The Boss is someone I could see; it seems like with her that people like her for much more than HANS GESTURRD AT j00.

As for pics, it'd be hard to say that works just for MGS and not for other characters who ever looked different before.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/17/2006 7:10:21 PM | message detail
Terra had, what, about 12% in brackets as an 8-seed against Dante? Kerrigan had around 24% in brackets as a 4-seed against Vincent.

Boosting Terra four seeds and dropping Kerrigan one, not to mention Terra having all the intangibles except potential rallying and maybe picture, plus knowing Kefka is usually a bracket-thief...I'd say Terra should rightfully have more bracket-support, but I wanna see Celes's support first before I say for sure.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/17/2006 7:14:53 PM | message detail
Kasumi/Chun-Li has potential to be interesting..
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2006 7:18:29 PM | message detail
Limit Division: Round 1 - Match 7 – (3)Jill Valentine vs. (6)Sheena Fujibayashi

Moltar’s Analysis

Jill
Game/Series Known From: Resident Evil
Extrapolated Rank in 2002: 16th (27.37%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: 28th (25.38%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: 29th (20.64%)
Seed in 2002: 3
Seed in 2003: 11
Seed in 2004: 14
Lost in 2002 to Link in Round 3
Lost in 2003 to Squall in Round 1
Lost in 2004 to Ryu H. in Round 1

Seems Jill has been getting weaker as time passes. She was a threat in ‘02, but not so much in ’04.

Sheena
Game/Series Known From: Tales of Symphonia

Another ToS character. My favorite female, Sheena, enters the fray.

Oh man, this match blows. Instead of Sheena getting an easy opponent like Amy Rose, she gets Jill Valentine. Jill has been a character on the decline since 2002. Back then, she was able to beat Kirby. Now she goes toe-to-toe with low-midcarders like Ryu Hayabusa.

Jill should be safe in this match though. Sheena shouldn’t be any stronger than Kratos (ToS). Kratos isn’t even as strong as Jill is, so there’s no way Sheena can be stronger using that logic. Still, I hope Sheena does well, if only for my bias alone.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Jill will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Jill: 63% - Sheena: 37%



Ulti’s Analysis

DAMN! Poor Sheena gets put into a 100% unwinnable match in what will likely be TOS's last entrant into a contest :(

As for how badly, who knows. But given TOS's history of performing like crap, this may actually get pretty ugly. The Jill > Peach upset bandwagon will begin after this match, assuming that match is even an upset at all.

Prediction: Jill with 65.34%



HM’s Analysis

Another Resident Evil character – a good one this time! – graces us with her presence in another match. Fortunately, this match isn’t that debatable unless your name is Lopen. Jill Valentine has had a pretty impressive track record in the past – beating Kirby, going even with Ryu Hayabusa, doing better against Squall than Luigi, etc. Sheena, however, has not had any previous contest experience and the others from her game do not invoke much confidence in her.

This match should really be a no-brainer to anyone who has been around these contests for a while. Jill Valentine may not be as strong as she once was, but she’s clearly capable of holding her own against pretty strong opponents. There is one thing to consider in this match – would Jill beat Kratos Aurion, the strongest representative from Tales of Symphonia? The answer to that, of course, is yes. He is far and away the strongest from that game with Sheena in a nice second. There’s not much hope for Sheena here other than to put up a respectable performance and take the loss.

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: Jill Valentine

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: Jill Valentine – 58% ; Sheena Fujibayashi – 42%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: Sheena Fujibayashi



Yoblazer’s Analysis

This will be a boring match. If Lloyd Irving, the Tales of Symphonia lead, can't score 55% against Resident Evil's weakass (but badass) Albert Wesker, there's no way a ToS side character can hope to take down RE's main gal. Sheena may get a few votes because of her breasts, but it won't keep this from being ugly in the end. Jill will easily move on to face Peach in one of the more debated Round 2 matches.

My prediction: Jill Valentine def. Sheena Fujibayahi (70-30)
Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2006 7:18:48 PM | message detail
Lopen’s Analysis

Jill Valentine… in 2002 she was a mighty force to be reckoned with, taking down Kirby in a shocker and then Bomberman before losing respectably to Link. In 2003 she lost to Squall in a not so close match. In 2004, she lost to Ryu Hayabusa who got beat down by Sora. What's the history lesson for? It's to show that she's been decaying every year, of course! Jill Valentine has been dropping dropping dropping, looking crappier with each contest. Will the trend continue? I think it very well could… in fact, I'm counting on it.

Some might say it would be silly to call Jill to drop after Resident Evil 4. But the thing is, Jill isn't in Resident Evil 4. And no, I don't think that RE4 is necessarily going to make people play and enjoy the others. A couple of reasons: 1. They're on systems from different generations… meaning RE1 & RE3 aren't immediately accessible… especially for GC RE4 players. 2. RE4 is what I'd call radically different from the RE 1-3. I personally despise RE2 and RE3, yet I love RE4. And I know I'm not alone on this matter.

Some might say it's silly to give Jill a chance to lose this when Ryu Hayabusa did a good 9-10% better than Lloyd Irving did against Zero last year. I say that Jill could've dropped again last year/this year, and also that Ryu Hayabusa 2k5 is much more fearsome a foe than the feeble Arabusa we saw in 2k4. (match pictures, check em out here if you don't know what I'm talking about: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php) I really do think Ryu Hayabusa draws a lot from his image… and heck, I think a lot of Hayabusa's fans don't know his name. All I have is anecdotal evidence to support that, but it's enough for me. I honestly wouldn't be that surprised if Zero got 72% on Arabusa. ("lol X-Stats" for 2004 expects him to get 67.4%, just so you know)

And since those "some" brought up Lloyd Irving, like I knew they would, I want to point out who he beat. Let's give some props to… Resident Evil's own Albert Wesker! Yeah, whoo! Hoorah! Now, remember before that guy entered the contest? Remember when people were saying "Wesker could as strong or stronger than Jill Valentine!". And it makes some sort of sense, he's in RE4... Jill's not. People don't believe it for a second now, because apparently Jill getting only 60% on Luca Blight is utter nonsense. Well, maybe back when she was really popular, but now? It's been so long, I'm not so sure. Logic that hasn't been tainted by match results tells me that Wesker and Jill could be close. And logic that has tells me Jill could have dropped to around that point.

All this talk about Jill… none for poor Sheena. Well, it's because Jill's where the real debate in this match comes from. We know Sheena's probably somewhere between "just under Lloyd Irving" and "a bit below Kratos Aurion". And we also know that Jill is projected to beat ol Kratos based on the last time we've seen her. So basically, Jill has to have dropped in popularity just a bit more for the superior hunny to win this match… and I think she has.

Lopen's Prediction: Sheena Fujibayashi with 51.08%



KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

Jill Valentine

Summer 2002 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 16th Place [27.37%]

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 28th Place [24.56%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 37th Place [20.64%]
Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2006 7:20:18 PM | message detail
Jill Valentine. For a long time considered to be the face of the Resident Evil series -- and honestly, she still may be, even with Leon Kennedy's main character appearance in RE4. She might as well have been THE only main character of the original RE, with her far better storyline, ability to pick locks and not have to search for irritating keys, and superior weaponry. She was such a popular character that she got her own game in Resident Evil 3, where she acted as THE main character. Alas, aside from the REmake and a few cameos here and there, Jill hasn't really been seen on the scene lately in the RE scene.

This doesn't mean she has been forgotten by her fans, however, and Capcom knows this. After all, in the upcoming Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles for the Wii, only two characters will be playable in more than one chapter -- Leon Kennedy, and, yes, Jill Valentine.

Sheena Fujibayashi

lol N/A

One of the better females from one of the better RPGs, if I do humbly say so myself. Sheena is strong-willed yet feminine, fast and fun to play as, has cool summons, and has perhaps one of the most likable characters in the game (and having Jennifer Hale as your voice actress never hurts). It's no wonder she's one of the big fan-favorites from Tales of Symphonia.

Her problem in this match? She's from Tales of Symphonia.

Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

Jill Valentine: N/A
Sheena Fujibayashi: Tales of Symphonia (GCN)

Upcoming Releases

Jill Valentine: Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles (WII)
Sheena Fujibayashi: N/A

*yawn* In all probability, this is a boring match, though I love both of the characters in it. Unfortunately, Sheena doesn't have a chance. Even if she's stronger than Lloyd (which I doubt), she won't be as strong as Kratos, and even the weakest Jill that we've seen yet wouldn't lose to him. More importantly, common sense takes precedence here -- I don't think half of GameFAQs has heard of 'Sheena Fujibayashi'. I do think half have heard of 'Jill Valentine'. So unless Jill is going to get massively anti-voted by the people that know her, she virtually *can't* lost this match. And sorry, Sheena, but Lara Croft is on the other side of the bracket. Jill won't have mercy here.

The thing to watch for here is to if Jill will have a chance at Peach next round. Under 60%, she's basically screwed. Over 70%, and Peach may need to sweat. Of course, that's all guessing since we've never seen Sheena before. And at any rate, I think it'll be in the middle.

Karma Hunter's Vote: Jill Valentine. Sheena's great and all, but Jill, like Claire, has carried the torch of strong females long before Ms. Fujibayashi ever hit the scene.

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Jill Valentine with 64.23%.

A little under the official spread, for safety's sake (I've been overestimating percentages too much in this thing).

Upset Potential: 2%

If Sheena is near Kratos' level, Jill has taken *that* much of a dive since even her 2004 level, and TJF works its magic for the first time since 2002, we could see Sheena barely, barely squeak by. But it won't happen. =P

Upset Prediction: Sheena Fujibayashi with 50.5%.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2006 7:20:31 PM | message detail
Guest’s Analysis - WiggumFan

Jill Valentine, destroyer of zombies, badass chick with a gun, sharer of last names (including Skeeter, Nyehonk Nyehonk!) . Almost like a more popular version of Boobsra Croft, isn’t she? Well, what the X-stats will tell you is that she’s been going downhill, but you know how a lot of people feel about X-stats…. And maybe they’re right…. You can’t use 2002 for anything sane anymore. 2003 is sketchy, but it’s okay. And Jill had a stupid run in ’03. Kirby was not all that strong then, and who the hell knows about Bomberman (Nowadays, I’d take Kirby over Jill easily)? Now, I don’t know much about Jilly, but I’d call her the most prominent of all the Resi good guys. (I’m not sure if I can call her more recognizable than Kennedy because of RE4, or Wesker, as far as the entire Resi staff goes since, well… Wesker always seems to be hanging around…)

So, in 2003, she took on a force named Squall. She got 40%, which is pretty good, considering Square did great that year (Squall went on to crush Luigi, only to do decently on Samus, for recollection’s sake). It’s not great…. But it’s pretty good. Now, recall 2004, in which we have arguably the most controversial match of the contest. Redone because of a voting glitch, the 2nd time Jill took on her opponent, Ryu Hayabusa, it was a much closer affair, a 27-vote difference in a match of over 95,000 votes. So, in 2004, we can say, SFF aside, that Ryu = Jill. 2004 Ryu was so-so, so that’s just okay.Jill disappeared for a year, probably because of Resident Evil 4, and the excitement around Leon. But now, she’s back.

As for Sheena Foojee-boojee, we have a newbie. While she’ll benefit more from NintendoFAQs than Jill will, it won’t be nearly enough to help her. We’ve only seen 2 other ToS reps; Lloyd and Kratos Aurion. ToS came out right around contest time in 2004, I think. They both made it in 2005. Lloyd, while he was able to defeat a weakening Wesker, was a zero compared to the hands of…. Well…. Kratos, meanwhile, put up some nice numbers on a Diablo, who performed okay in 2005. But also, Kratos and Lloyd are clearly the 2 most popular characters from ToS. Sheena has never made it before, and with good reason, making it only under the fact that female ranges have been broadened. Jill may or may not have made it without this handicap, but I doubt it.

Expect this match to give you a decent idea of how Jill will do versus Peach. Odd, how Jill has made this contest 3 times, before Peach did once (maybe Mario and the rest of the crew who has made it before were taking her noms). Peach vs. Jill is by no means a pick-in-a-second match…. It’s a pick-in-a-minute match.

This match though, Jill will win, most definitely, but she will struggle a bit, with an only moderately popular RPG series, that someone from Resi should normally at least double. But, Jill is weakening, which may explain her absence in 05.

Prediction: Jilly V. with 62%
Aprosenf | Posted 9/17/2006 7:28:21 PM | message detail
lol Lopen
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2006 7:30:04 PM | message detail
In a perfect world, Lopen would be right (in this match)!
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Who Cares? | Posted 9/17/2006 7:53:03 PM | message detail
Kasumi/Chun-Li has potential to be interesting..

Meh, I think Kasumi is going to look a bit worse then what she could be thanks to some genre SFF. (Fighting would be the one genre where this could actually happen since SF > all other traditional fighters) Don't think she'll be too bad though.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/17/2006 7:55:24 PM | message detail
I would love it to see Sheena win this!
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cyko | Posted 9/17/2006 7:57:24 PM | message detail
since people brought up one of my favorite topics of which FF6 characters would do the best, i repeat my previous thoughts. i have always thought that Shadow and Mog have the best shots at doing better than Kefka. they are the two that seem to stand out beyond the crowd. i nominated both of them this year and will continue to nominate Shadow, Mog, AND Bahanut until these contests end.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2006 8:01:08 PM | message detail
Why do we care, though? Aren't there a bunch of characters out there that will be stronger than anything FF6 dishes out? I mean, I know I'd never take Sub-Zero to lose to Shadow, Mog, or Kefka...is it just because we have to have something from FF6?
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Dark115 | Posted 9/17/2006 8:03:07 PM | message detail
I'd bet on Mog doing the best only because there are Mogs in just about every other Final Fantasy
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cyko | Posted 9/17/2006 8:08:12 PM | message detail
it would be nice to be certain that one of the Top 10 games on the site just doesn't have a strong character. i don't think there's a need to test every single character from the game, but i really do think that Shadow and Mog both have some contest potential. (i also think that Sabin, Edgar, Locke, and Setzer could do a bit better than Terra, but not much....) and in all honesty, i would most likely take Shadow, Mog, AND Bahamut over Sub-Zero.

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