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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 363

therealmnm | Posted 9/16/2006 7:46:09 PM | message detail
WTF at Strago being last. Well, he shouldn't exactly be a favorite of anybody... But I still like him!

Blue Magic (Lores) FTW! It at least separated him from being Ultima slinger #13. Plus I actually enjoyed going out and trying to learn the lores... Even though it was damn annoying to get hit by a spell and not learn it. I remember there was an enemy in Kefka's Tower called Dark Force (looked like Wrexsoul) who used nearly every single lore. I'd sit there and let the game run while he used them all...
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steve illumina | Posted 9/16/2006 7:52:52 PM | message detail
"Steve Illumina is really one of those users you just gotta enjoy reading...his columns are ingenious in their commentary on the gaming psyche." -Sushi X

Steve! Steve! Steve!

"Whereas other so called analysts fluff up their arguments with silly stats, and often imitate eachother in their words, Steve truly shines with his unique mockery based approach and creative flair." -Anonymous Respected User

Illumina! Illumina! Illumina!

The masses demanded it...and the masses' wish has been granted...give it up for Steve Illumina!

"Greetings, noobies of the world, and welcome to another spirited season of GameFAQ's greatest analysis column, that being of course, 'Steve Illumina Speaks'!"

Here we are, with another edition of the Stats thread's biggest draw...the column that tells it like it is, and does not sugarcoat the truth just to kiss up to others here!The analysis to end all analyses!!!

Now let us begin with the "Tale of the Babes!"

(4)The Boss vs (5)Celes Chere

Sage of Board 8's Pick: The first true tragic heroine in gaming...CELES!
Newbies Pick: The Boss
Fadnerds Pick: CELES PWN'S!!!
Sage's Score After This Win: 6/6
Fanboy Anger Meter: Moderately High

"Now it gets good... Now we have a match that will REALLY break the dreams of those who seek to see the Sage of Board 8 Steve Illumina's bracket fall so quickly. Too bad for all your Metal Gearians out there...cause your precious Boss is gonna be given the pinkslip thanks to Celes Chere! And now, I am going to tell you why..."

"You see, I have a secret that rivals the Shopkeeper of Nibelheim...for it is I that have been leading the Square Legions! Well, the FFVI Cult of Celes!!! Thats right kiddies, yours truly has been pushing for Celes, the heroine in white, to be given her due. Too long she has had to wait in the shadows as flower girls, tomboys, summoners and even cute little mages in pointy hats have been given their shot before her. Well tomorrow, she will show the world the power of old school RPGs and old school Square when it was still Squaresoft!!"

"The vote of the RPG masses will overwhelm the Snakester's foe and while it will be close due to rising upticks in Metal Gear fanboyism, which is merely bandwagoning if you ask me, and Celes will overcome! She will get the job done and axe The Boss. And as she does so, I will utter her words..."

'Locke...for once...let me protect you...Maybe now...now you'll believe me...'

"You all will believe me soon..."

"Thats it for today folks, now stay tuned for the next column!"

Steve Fun Fact: I nominated Celes and led the Board to do so along with me!! Take that all you Queen Zeal nominating peeps!!!

PS: The Boss...more like The Employee!

This is Steve Illumina, signing off, and remember...MK Armageddon arrives October 7th!!!
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steve illumina | Posted 9/16/2006 7:54:04 PM | message detail
Oh and my preferred FFVI party: Celes, Relm, Locke and Cyan :)
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dragoontheguy | Posted 9/16/2006 8:00:32 PM | message detail
Oh and my preferred FFVI party: Celes, Relm, Locke and Cyan :)

Respect: +20
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When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory!
dragoontheguy | Posted 9/16/2006 8:01:16 PM | message detail
Oh and your opinion is also highly valid since you have Celes winning. :)
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When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory!
longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/16/2006 8:05:05 PM | message detail
So did anything interesting happen today?
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WilhuffTarkin | Posted 9/16/2006 8:06:01 PM | message detail
Hiko, how does your bracket look besides Claire?
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Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances.
dragoontheguy | Posted 9/16/2006 8:06:56 PM | message detail
So did anything interesting happen today?

Tifa got outdone in the boob department, and failed to quad ivy (whether the two are related or not is up to you to decide >_>).
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When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory!
charmander6000 | Posted 9/16/2006 8:07:50 PM | message detail
Match VI: (4) The Boss vs. (5) Celes Chere

Contest History

The Boss


No Previous Contest Matches

Celes Chere

No Previous Contest Matches

Analysis:

Another new character vs new character match. The Boss is from Metal Gear Solid 3 and plays a huge role in that game and is one of the favorites of MGS fans. Celes is from Final Fantasy VI and even though she starts off as a side character the story shifts towards her during the second half of the game. To some people she is considered to be the main character.

For a match that looks to be close there isn’t a whole lot of discussion going around. The closest characters of the two are Big Boss and Terra and even then both of them are expected to have a close match. It is also expected that both characters are weaker than Big Boss and Terra. Why you ask, well Big Boss is from a more popular MGS game and he was even in 3 though his name doesn’t get mentioned until the end of the game and even though Celes takes the spotlight during the second half of the game Terra is still remembered by most people as being the lead role in FFVI.

This is going to be a match between two new weak characters in which any of them could take it. The track records between the characters that have appeared from the same game/series (with the exception of Solid Snake) also haven’t been that great. I’m going with The Boss because I feel that MGS fans will pull through in giving her the win and being the first option doesn’t hurt her either.

charmander6000’s Bracket: The Boss over Celes Chere

charmander6000’s Prediction: The Boss wins, 54.11% - 45.89%

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longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/16/2006 8:08:04 PM | message detail
Hiko, how does your bracket look besides Claire?

Other than that fourpack it looks pretty good. I still think Jill > Peach is possible, plus if Zero won his fourpack that'd help me out a lot too.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/16/2006 8:09:14 PM | message detail
Tifa got outdone in the boob department, and failed to quad ivy (whether the two are related or not is up to you to decide >_>).

Thank the lawd for that. Soul Calibur needs some matches it can actually win one ah these years!
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/16/2006 8:40:26 PM | message detail
The time draws near...91.17% of the brackets for Tifa.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/16/2006 8:40:37 PM | message detail
Hmmm...MGS and FF6 aren't known for a great day vote...I wonder how this one will play out...
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/16/2006 8:41:45 PM | message detail
If it starts close, it certainly has the chance to go wire to wire.

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Kratos_42 | Posted 9/16/2006 8:45:45 PM | message detail
I go with 88.50% of the brackets with Tifa.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/16/2006 8:46:06 PM | message detail
Looks like Tifa is going to surpass Samus's individual vote total by a slim margin.

Watch out, Samus! She's coming!
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/16/2006 8:47:11 PM | message detail
Nidoran F > Ivy !!

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Axem Turtle | Posted 9/16/2006 8:48:25 PM | message detail
Well, my analysis is written up, and I realized how little information we have for this match. Everything is based on where you think Boss is in relation to Ocelot and Big Boss. This one will be a total surprise.

TuRtLe
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Draco1214 | Posted 9/16/2006 8:49:23 PM | message detail
I find it hilarious that Nidoran F will wind up ranking higher than half of the female side.

And Tifa with 90% of the brackets.
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Current Prediction - The Boss vs. Celes Chere
FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/16/2006 8:49:28 PM | message detail
I can't see any possible way of The Boss being stronger than Ocelot.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/16/2006 8:49:56 PM | message detail
I like these vote totals. It means the recent influx of site traffic is here to stay (and only suffers from school during the week), and it will only go up once the next generation of gaming hits. We may be in for a paradigm shift next year.

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Master Moltar | Posted 9/16/2006 8:49:56 PM | message detail
Bleh, I don't feel like posting the analyses here.

Just check the main topic. Sorry for the laziness today.
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Tifa vs. Ivy - Bracket: Tifa - Vote: Ivy (3/4)
Axem Turtle | Posted 9/16/2006 8:50:01 PM | message detail
And, since we're talking about FF6:

Battle usefullness:

Edgar > Sabin > Gau > Mog > Terra > Relm > Celes > Shadow > Gogo > Locke > Cyan > Setzer > Umaro

TuRtLe
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/16/2006 8:50:07 PM | message detail
I find it hilarious that Nidoran F will wind up ranking higher than half of the female side.

Uhh...No, she won't.
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Axem Turtle | Posted 9/16/2006 8:50:20 PM | message detail
Gah, throw Strago in after Gogo

TuRtLe
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Turtle on his laptop | Contest analysis:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383
Heroic Mario | Posted 9/16/2006 8:50:44 PM | message detail
Aw, Tifa surpassed Samus's individual vote total.

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XxSoulxX | Posted 9/16/2006 8:50:49 PM | message detail
I love how all the Celes people are worried that The Boss might win, and all the Boss people are worried that Celes might win.

Go Boss!
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Axem Turtle | Posted 9/16/2006 8:51:22 PM | message detail
From FlamboyantSpy Posted 9/16/2006 11:49:28 PM
I can't see any possible way of The Boss being stronger than Ocelot.

That's common consensus, that The Boss is somewhere between Ocelot and Big Boss.

I personally think she's closer to BB, close enough that Terra would beat her, and Celes = Terra

TuRtLe
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Turtle on his laptop | Contest analysis:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383
Master Moltar | Posted 9/16/2006 8:51:34 PM | message detail
Ultra summarzied Crew write-ups: Me, Ulti, HM and Yo have The Boss with 54%, Lopen and KH have her with 52%, and the Guest has Celes winning with 55%.
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Tifa vs. Ivy - Bracket: Tifa - Vote: Ivy (3/4)
Axem Turtle | Posted 9/16/2006 8:51:55 PM | message detail
From XxSoulxX Posted 9/16/2006 11:50:49 PM
I love how all the Celes people are worried that The Boss might win, and all the Boss people are worried that Celes might win.

Go Boss!


That's a sign that noone has a clue what's going to happen at midnight.

TuRtLe
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Turtle on his laptop | Contest analysis:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383
AmazingKirby | Posted 9/16/2006 8:53:17 PM | message detail
The Boss sweeps in the analysis crew?

Celes wins!

Seriously, Celes is going to win.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/16/2006 8:53:42 PM | message detail
In the closing minutes of this poll, I have something important to note: **** Florida.

Florida and the rock I cut my toe on while walking out of the stadium.
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It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
Draco1214 | Posted 9/16/2006 8:53:53 PM | message detail
Kairi was also the crew favorite...so I guess the Analysis Crew curse has been lifted.
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Character Battle V Score - 5/5 points
Current Prediction - The Boss vs. Celes Chere
THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/16/2006 8:54:39 PM | message detail
The Crew hasn't lifted its unanimous pick curse!
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FFDragon | Posted 9/16/2006 8:54:57 PM | message detail
It's about to get fun, guys !!
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therealmnm | Posted 9/16/2006 8:54:59 PM | message detail
And I still say that a good deal of Big Boss's votes were from knowledgable MGS3 fans. The Boss would definitely be stronger than Big Boss sans MGS3... But with the way Auron beat down Big Boss even WITH some MGS3 support, I just don't see The Boss being too much stronger, if she's even stronger at all.

Celes is pretty much going to be high fodder. Pathetic in a normal contest, but seeing how weak the women's side is, she actually can look to be pretty decent. I'm wondering how popular FFVI is on this site now as compared to 2k4 or earlier. FFVI Advance might renew some of that, but right now I'm not so sure how it stands.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/16/2006 8:56:25 PM | message detail
I helped to lift the Crew favorite curse. Here's hoping the unanimous pick curse gets lifted as well! =D
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/16/2006 8:56:53 PM | message detail
To me this is going to be a win-win match. I like Celes better and have The Boss in my bracket.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/16/2006 8:57:25 PM | message detail
I'm nervous that Celes will blow out with like 60%.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/16/2006 8:57:54 PM | message detail
To me this is going to be a win-win match. I like Celes better and have The Boss in my bracket.

Exact opposite for me.

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/16/2006 8:58:00 PM | message detail
Man, I hate when people get a match off to a sour note with being obnoxious for no reason at all.
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Who Cares? | Posted 9/16/2006 8:58:03 PM | message detail
So it looks like through the adjusted 2k5 stats, Ivy's going to finish right inbetween King of All Cosmos & Wesker. She'll no doubt be a bit higher with Tifa's expected increase
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/16/2006 8:59:12 PM | message detail
Win-Meh here. Have Boss in my bracket, won't really care about either of these characters.

Although actually, The Boss doing poorly might imply that Big Boss didn't need to be adjusted much, if at all (though I still think he could be stronger). And Celes doing well would imply that the Devil Division perhaps doesn't need to be adjusted downward. If that happens, Vincent's looking much better for his match against Ganondorf!

These are both one-point matches, though. I wonder why I care more about the other -- OH YEAH I FORGOT THE OTHER ONE ISN'T FODDER DAMN FEMALE BRACKET.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/16/2006 8:59:29 PM | message detail
Also, it's pretty apparent that weekend = higher votals, who do you think that would benefit in this match, if either?

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HaRRicH | Posted 9/16/2006 9:00:12 PM | message detail
They both got boobs...so, I dunno.
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It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/16/2006 9:00:15 PM | message detail
The Boss 50% 13
Celes Chere 50% 13
TOTAL VOTES 26

lawl

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Master Moltar | Posted 9/16/2006 9:00:16 PM | message detail
The Boss 55.56% 35
Celes Chere 44.44% 28
TOTAL VOTES 63

Yay!
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The Boss vs. Celes - Bracket: The Boss - Vote: The Boss (4/5)
dragoontheguy | Posted 9/16/2006 9:00:26 PM | message detail
The Boss 56.07% 60
Celes Chere 43.93% 47
TOTAL VOTES 107
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When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory!
Axem Turtle | Posted 9/16/2006 9:00:28 PM | message detail
lol board vote

TuRtLe
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Turtle on his laptop | Contest analysis:
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/16/2006 9:00:41 PM | message detail
The Boss 55.81% 24
Celes Chere 44.19% 19
TOTAL VOTES 43

Let's go Boss! Expected a little more board support though... =(
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