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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 359

Karma Hunter | Posted 9/14/2006 7:43:50 PM | message detail
Don't forget INDESTRUCTIBLE LOPEN
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/14/2006 7:44:29 PM | message detail
INDESTRUCTIBLE LOPEN was my single favorite thing about any contest ever.

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Master Moltar | Posted 9/14/2006 7:44:35 PM | message detail
Spazer Division: Round 1 - Match 4 – (2)Kairi vs. (7)Claire Redfield

Moltar’s Analysis

Kairi
Game/Series Known From: Kingdom Hearts

Kingdom Hearts is the thing on GameFAQs right now, so no surprise to see Kairi here.

Claire
Game/Series Known From: Resident Evil
Extraploated Rank in 2002: 13th (30.11%)
Seed in 2002: 9
Lost in 2002 to Tidus in Round 1

Well, it’s an old familiar face! Looks like RE4 reminded some people to get Claire in this Contest.

Alright, this is my match! This is the upset special I’m looking forward to. Kairi or Claire, let’s rock!

First, let me begin with some predictions. I don’t think Kairi will be as strong as her seed indicates. With Sora and Riku also getting high seeds and Axel getting in on the male side, it seems like people just nominated KH characters in droves. It doesn’t mean they’ll actually vote for them over any opponent. Now, if Kairi does end up showing some decent strength, then she’ll probably win, but hey, gotta take risks when looking for an upset.

Next is my prediction on Claire, which is that while she won’t be at her 2002 value, she hasn’t fallen far enough to lose this match. In 2002, she was able to put up 45% on Tidus, which wasn’t a joke back then. However, Claire hasn’t been in a game in forever, and the only thing she really has going for her now is the RE fans votes. She’s fallen off the map. Her and Jill could boost because of RE4 even though they aren’t in it because of the series getting stronger as a whole.

Now we get to this match. Untested, over-seeded newbie who on her own has few fans and will probably get most of her strength from series votes versus someone who was strong but hasn’t had a release in years, but could potentially still have some of her strength. Tough. I won’t be surprised if Kairi wins, but I can’t see her winning with anything more than 55%.

I see the match as a gamble either way. If you’re banking on Kairi, she could flop horribly and Claire wins with ease. If you’re on the Claire bandwagon, she could end up beaten eaten alive by KH fans and her own problem with exposure these days. Some may say I’m holding on to Claire’s 2002 value too tightly, but whatever. We may see voting shifts, but I can’t see the voting audience shift enough to where Claire falls to the bottom. I see this upset having the best chance of happening in the female bracket.

It’ll also be interesting to look at the voting patterns in the match. I think Claire will start with the early lead, but it’s just a matter of how quick and how much she can build it. Kairi will begin to fight during the KH day vote, so hopefully this match is as good as it looks on paper.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Claire will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Kairi: 47% - Claire: 53%



Ulti’s Analysis

I feel like writing an analysis that makes no real sense for once.

Robotnik vs Sin from 2005 CLEARLY tells us how this here match will go!!

Sonic > Auron

Knuckles > Tidus

Shadow > Yuna

With all that in mind, Robotnik being > Sin should have been an obvious conclusion that we all should have seen coming from day one! And obviously the entire Sonic series would have whipped FFX's ass in a poll if such a thing were even possible. See where I'm going with this? No? Well screw you, then.

But because I'm nice, we'll look at an equally credible analysis of Resident Evil versus Kingdom Hearts!

Sora > Leon Kennedy

Riku > Jill Valentine

Ansem > Wesker

Kingdom Hearts > Resident Evil (you have to factor in "MGS tanks against anything with real strength" SFF in those stats)

Clearly, Kairi > Claire is the only logical conclusion that can come of this! \m/
Heroic Mario | Posted 9/14/2006 7:44:36 PM | message detail
Dante supporters were funny guys!

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Master Moltar | Posted 9/14/2006 7:44:53 PM | message detail
Though if you want something a bit more serious, I went and surfed the net a bunch during some random day of boredom. The KH fanbase cares for Kairi about as much as the RE fanbase cares for Claire. That said, close matches like this are generally about whichever fanbase is more rabid. I give a SLIGHT edge to Kingdom Hearts there, solely because my inbox hasn't been the same since I got that KH2 bestiary posted on GameFAQs. RE4 is popular as hell in its own right, but I doubt any of its in-depths scored 100k hits in ~6 months.

And yeah yeah FAQ hits are meaningless with contest matches, but it's either make a joke analysis or post something like "I think Kairi wins on gut instinct".

Prediction: Kairi with 51.24%



HM’s Analysis

We arrive at the first debatable match quite early this time around with Kairi and Claire. Both of these characters have reasons to win and reasons to lose. Claire made her first appearance in the 2002 contest and did quite well for herself, but she has been absent from every other contest since. Kairi is a newcomer who got in thanks to the surge of Kingdom Hearts fans that were brought to the site thanks to Kingdom Hearts II.

In this match, I think it matters more about who do people care about more, because both of them are going to be rather weak. In the case of Claire, she comes from a Resident Evil series that seems to be picking up more popularity thanks to Resident Evil 4 – she had no role in the game – but also hasn’t made been in with the gaming scene since about 2001. That puts her at a rather disadvantageous position against a more prominent Kairi who has been here since 2003 and, more recently, 2006 courtesy of Kingdom Hearts II.

I think that for the people who don’t care about either character, which I’m assuming will be a good deal of the site, they’re going to vote for the one who may be in their favorite game or who is at least fresh in their minds – Kairi. This match will undoubtedly be close, but I have a hard time imagining that Claire would be able to take care of someone who is coming off such a huge hit. Kairi should still be weak, no doubt, but it should be enough to squeak by a much weakened Claire.

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: Kairi

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: Kairi – 53% ; Claire Redfield – 47%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: Kairi



Yoblazer’s Analysis

Well, here it is! This has easily been the most debated female match of the bracket, and is, in actuality, probably one of the only female matches where my plebian brain can muster a long write-up. This is also the match that's occupied more of my thinking time than the rest of this bracket combined.

It's not hard to see why Kairi is the favorite going into this thing. She has the higher seed, the more recent big game, and three other Kingdom Hearts characters in the bracket, including a TOP SEEDED Sora. We all know that seeding is a pretty weak indicator of strength, so let's take a look at just why Kairi should be popular enough to defeat Claire: Kingdom Hearts II.

Needless to say, KHII has been hot stuff ever since its release in late March. It's still GameFAQs' most popular game of 2006, and it allowed the series to get past Castlevania in our last contest. Kairi is Kingdom Hearts' lead heroine in both games. Naturally, she should have enough popularity to defeat Claire Redfield, who has been missing from the gaming scene for five years. Well, if it were all that easy, this match wouldn't be so debated, would it?
Master Moltar | Posted 9/14/2006 7:45:41 PM | message detail
Delving further, one will realize that Kairi has several "flaws" that will hinder her popularity. Unlike more traditional, experienced female entrants like Samus, Zelda, and Jill Valentine, Kairi has never been playable. Unlike our contingent of Final Fantasy gals (from Tifa all the way down to Terra), Kairi has never been a party member. Not being an RPG buff, I'm not sure if "party member" can be sandwiched in the same category as "playable," so I separated them. Now, the general progression of power goes Playable > Party Member > Villain (with the last two being often interchangeable). It makes sense. Villains are usually badass and play major roles in plotlines. Unfortunately, Kairi isn't a villain, either. She's not badass (she's not even cool, and I say this as a big Kairi fan), she doesn't contribute much memorable stuff to the story, and she doesn't even have that much screen time. Armed with this knowledge, I consulted the contest archives in search of the strongest non-playable, non-party member, non-villain we had ever seen. Let me tell you, folks... the search was not an easy one. Simply put, not many of these characters have ever been in a contest. I was about to call it a day, and then I found it.

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/5549/youvegottobekiddingmelq9.jpg

Yes, HIM. HE'S the most popular non-playable, non-party member, non-villain we've ever seen. I'd like to see you argue your way out of this, Kairi! In all seriousness, I do believe this hurts Kairi. There's only so much emotional attachment you can make with a player if you're never around and never do anything memorable. There's a limit to how much the average voter can care about you. Unless Kingdom Hearts fans are just as loyal as (or more loyal than) Nintendo fans in their voting patterns, Kairi should be really weak stuff.

Now, it's Claire's turn to face my fury. My my my, where have you been, Ms. Redfield? It's been years since I've played RE2 and Code Veronica, but that doesn't mean I've forgotten how much I like you. Much like Ada Wong, Claire has made the most of her two games, appearing on an incredible five different consoles. The games themselves are nothing to scoff at, either. Claire's two RE games are arguably #2 and #4 in the Resident Evil popularity ladder, and she had the most popular RE game of all prior to January of 2005. Unlike Kairi, however, Claire doesn't spend her in-game time as a side character. She's starred in two games, and has been a playable lead in both. That's good. Also, if contest history is your thing, Claire absolutely tore up the X-Stats in 2002. Sure, that was a long time ago, and the result is almost certainly skewed and not very useful today, but there's no way you can call that bad. At least she has something. Well, it seems that the balance of power has shifted! Whereas Kairi was the clear favorite at the start of this analysis, now, through nothing more than my infallible arguments and Herculean jaw line, Claire is the favorite?! What gives?! Two things: recency and Jill Valentine's contest history.

As stated earlier, Claire Redfield has long been missing in action. In fact, her last big console game (Code Veronica X for the PS2) was released a full year before Kairi even existed. Many Kairi supporters are hoping that all this time away from the spotlight will have hurt Claire's status and popularity among voters. It certainly is a valid point, and one we won't find the answer to until match time (if ever). Bracket makers are also trying to get a feel for Claire's strength by looking at Jill. Much like Claire, Jill was pretty damn strong in 2002. In 2003, Claire was gone, but Jill was back... and she had gotten weaker. In 2004, she got even weaker still. She was nowhere to be seen in 2005, but people look at this three year stretch of decreasing popularity and wonder if Claire would have met the same fate.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/14/2006 7:46:12 PM | message detail
Would she have? If I had to guess, I'd say absolutely. To put it bluntly, having boobs in 2002 helped. It helped a lot. Even still, there's no way Claire was ever legitimately worth 30% on Link. However, I see no reason to believe why she would be significantly weaker than Jill. Both have been playable leads in two Resident Evil games, and both have 4+ year absences from the gaming industry. This, and the fact that I would never, ever consider taking Kairi over Jill, has caused me to side with Claire in this real ***** of a match.

I hope this tank of a write-up makes up for my rather short earlier ones; now let's just hope it was worth something!

My prediction: Claire Redfield def. Kairi (55-45)



Lopen’s Analysis

Claire was first in this thing in 2002. She did pretty well against Tidus (who I'd easily take over Kairi), and she had a pretty mighty X-Stat value too, implying that might've been a stronger Tidus. Well you know what? I don't really care what happened back then… it was from years ago. Jill Valentine sure looked a lot better back then, too. Basically… I'm not trusting that Claire is what those X-Stats of yore imply, or that she even still has a close match with Tidus. (who doesn't seem nearly as fearsome these days)

And yet… even though I say Claire's not nearly as popular as 2002 implies, I still think Claire's taking this match pretty easily. Kairi may be from Kingdom Hearts, the same Kingdom Hearts that managed to get four reps in this contest, the same Kingdom Hearts that has a sequel that most of GameFAQs would call game of the year right now. But… a name can only get you so far! Kairi just doesn't strike me as having many fans out there.

Characters from popular games can be fodder. We've seen it time and time again. Terra… Kerrigan… Sin… even Ansem from the very same series. (who I'd take to beat Kairi, by the way) People are expecting Kingdom Hearts to carry Kairi to victory? After this one… I'm expecting Kingdom Hearts to have to carry Kairi… out on a stretcher! OH YEAH!

Lopen's Prediction: Claire Redfield with 63.08%



KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

Kairi

lol N/A

Hello, useless NPC romantic interest! Haven't seen you in a while, and your importance and relevance to the game is about as minimal as it can be, especially since it's a 40+ hour RPG! Yes, it's Kairi, the girl whose name I keep mistyping because DAMN YOU DYSLEXIA. Anywho, she's useless, non-apparent, and jailbait. I smell a contest powerhouse here, folks!

Claire Redfield

Summer 2002 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 13th Place [30.11%]

Every single time I remember Claire was in 2002, I'm shocked. Every single time I remember that she ended up outranking Jill, I get even more shocked. And when I realize that she came in 13th place -- OVERALL -- how in the hell did she not return to the field, X-Stats be damned???

Well, there is the whole thing about 'nominations'. And Claire isn't *that* strong, Tidus is likely a bit overrated from his Sonic match, there's all that 'WDF' or 'Link/Mario SFF' or whatever you want to call it going on, and she likely benefitted from being in an early match against Tidus -- who, now that I've played FFX, understand why he got so much hate (though I like Tidus, he's cool). But still, a little below Jill is damn impressive, and Kairi simply can't compete with that. However, that was 2002. Welcome to 2006, Claire Redfield. The world has changed...
therealmnm | Posted 9/14/2006 7:46:29 PM | message detail
Excuse me for not buying Zero getting 44% on Mega Man to him getting beat 59/41...
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/14/2006 7:46:35 PM | message detail
Oh yeah HM? Well your face is funny !!

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Draco1214 | Posted 9/14/2006 7:46:35 PM | message detail
Nobody remembers me arguing for Dante?

I feel so left out...;_;
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/14/2006 7:46:54 PM | message detail
So Zero went from 33.96% to 32.09% on BL, and Hayabusa and Lloyd both point to Zero underperforming just a little bit. Zero-2k5 beats Vercetti-2k5 worse than how their match went in 2k4, too, so that says a little something as well...

...where's the problem at?


Hayabusa just boosted from the Ninja pic, plain and simple. Even without an adjustment, he's significantly stronger from 2k4.

Lloyd doesn't point to jack, WESKER points to this supposed 'underperformance', and Wesker's VC ranking is stupid and wrong and he should feel bad.

As for Vercetti 2k5, check his comparison to Vercetti 2k4. He weakened significantly. And no calling this one on 20XX factor, he and Kefka were in the same division. And Kefka should not have approached him like he did. Vercetti weakened, that's all there is to it.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/14/2006 7:47:11 PM | message detail
Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

Kairi: Kingdom Hearts (PS2), Kingdom Hearts 2 (PS2)
Claire Redfield: N/A

Upcoming Releases

Kairi: N/A
Claire Redfield: Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles (WII)

The first debatable match of the round by absolute necessity, and it has all the ingredients of the perfect X-Stats upset. Claire was pretty much what a near-elite looked like in 2002. Kairi *will* be fodder. Kairi is overseeded thanks to KH2, Claire is underseeded due to splitting noms with Jill and Ada. Kairi is a useless NPC, Claire is a main character of two popular REs. Everything is in place...except I've got a horrible feeling about this match.

When's the last time an X-Stats upset panned out? Bowser > Snake was about as close as we got, *maybe* Kirby > Tidus if you want to count it. As someone said last night, this feels like Mega Man/Mario Kart all over again, and while it's not assured to be the same at all, I couldn't side with Claire here, much as I wanted to.

Kairi is from KH2 -- that game is absolutely huge, and is STILL huge right now. Recency alone will give her an edge. I don't think people will bother to remember Claire, because unlike Crono her games are not incredibly impactful to the audience here. Even Leon Kennedy of RE4 won't be remembered in a few years if he doesn't keep up his game quota.

Little X-Stat reasoning here, but all my logic and initial feelings tell me Kairi should take it. Let's use those weird thingies.

Karma Hunter's Vote: Claire. I've got to go with the strong woman that carried me through the best and third best RE games out there.

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Kairi with 58.9%.

Going high here again. Since Kairi winning depends on Claire falling off the map, and all...

Upset Potential: 40%

UPSET ALERT UPSET ALERT UPSET ALERT


Whenever we go into 15%+ territory, we get an upset alert, where the upset gets its case spelled out in dramatic fashion. This is good, as you'll sometimes see me back what I consider to be the 'upset pick' in my bracket. It's called a calculated risk, dammit!

Today is just a warm up, because we've gone through it before. If Claire has even a fraction of that original strength left, she wins. Wow, that actually sounds really bad for Kairi. Let's give Claire a higher upset pick; it's not like it counts for the Crew. =)

Upset Prediction: Claire with 61.2%



Guest’s Analysis - Inviso

Kairi is from a series that has been a big hit in the past few years and has a new game out from March. Claire is from a series that is also pretty big, what with RE4 being such a huge hit. There is a difference however. Claire is not even in RE4 and hasn't been in a game in quite some time, plus, while Jill and Leon are popular for their games, Claire is far more obscure. Ada's showing on Jade is nothing as BG&E is obscure and Ada gets some GCN SFF. The point is, while Kairi isn't a playable character like Claire, this is GameFAQS where RPGs rule when Nintendo's not around, especially SquarePGs. Kingdom Hearts>Resident Evil in this instance and Kairi will win.

Winner: Kairi with 53.27%




Summary: Crew favors Kairi 4-3. You know what that means...
longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/14/2006 7:49:04 PM | message detail
Claire?! Obscure? LOLOL!
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/14/2006 7:49:40 PM | message detail
Kairi, 4-3. What does that mean?

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Haste_2 | Posted 9/14/2006 7:50:18 PM | message detail
I say the simplest comparison is likely the best comparison. Once you start going through multiple characters across different years, you already start to lose credibility in the argument.

Okay, yeah, the first argument using comparing Ryu, Zero, and Sonic together was terrible. :p Anyway, Ryu stayed rather constant between 2K2 and 2K4, so comparing different years with Ryu doesn't hurt. Okay, yes, I went to far comparing Ryu, Zero, and Sonic all in different years. But, Kirby outdid Ryu by SEVEN percent on Bowser. That's major, considering Ryu got 43%/44% on Sonic. That right there implies near-elite without question, but it's all up to you to decide if there was rSFF or if Ryu completely dropped off.

Personally, I think Ryu and Tidus have always been close to each other in popularity as evidence of the x-stats 2K2, 2K3 (adjusting Magus/GDorf/Tidus down around Ryu makes sense), and the raw x-stats of 2K5. That leaves 2K4...I find Tidus being underrated by a couple points there plausible. Of course, one might argue that measuring Kirby from the Tidus 2K4 (his lowest value) is Kirby's sign of weakness, but I'll take a pure result from 2K5 rather than extrapolating from Tidus of a different year. Auron hasn't had signs of dropping...why would Tidus drop so much? Hence, the reason why I think Tidus and Ryu are actually still very close together in popularity. (and that implies Kirby 2K5 being legit)

But, man, it's impossible to argue Kirby/Zero without getting into tiny details and even 1% could make a difference. But, obviously all matches have error and we have a new year, so it's practically pointless to argue about ANYTHING close x stat-wise, since we all know the match is gonna be close. (same thing for any close match in which we have past data for both characters) I just enjoy discussing x-stats and pretending like things are accurate with the appropriate interpretations, though obviously it won't work incredibly well. I guess you could argue about intangibles pretty well, though.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/14/2006 7:50:33 PM | message detail
It means Claire is going to be TAI'D AND HANG'D.

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charmander6000 | Posted 9/14/2006 7:52:19 PM | message detail
It means Claire is going to be TAI'D AND HANG'D.

More like Kairi is going to lose because the crew favors her.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/14/2006 7:52:48 PM | message detail
You're no fun.

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dragoontheguy | Posted 9/14/2006 7:53:32 PM | message detail
Most people on the board seem to be just going with their favourite for this match. Oddly, I'm a huge fan of RE and have never even played a KH game, but have kairi in my bracket. My bracket usually gets shot in the first round and recovers it's dignity later though, so I'm guessing claire wins. >_>

Seriously though, the match is just up in the air.
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Draco1214 | Posted 9/14/2006 7:54:27 PM | message detail
KH is my good luck charm in these contests, so I hope Kairi pulls out a win.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/14/2006 7:54:30 PM | message detail
Then it should also be kept in mind that Mega Man was adjusted in 2k4, so it was practically been two years since we saw Zero get a more exact value (and we haven't seen another exact value since from your P.O.V., which is fair enough though I disagree). Also, wasn't there big talk that Zero might have gotten a bit of rSFF on Mega Man in 2k4? Both of those might explain it as well.
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/14/2006 7:55:42 PM | message detail
I think the board vote will go to Kairi.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 9/14/2006 7:57:41 PM | message detail
This match will probably look a lot like castlevania vs. KH in terms of voting patterns.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/14/2006 7:57:41 PM | message detail
I'd venture to guess that Kairi has the most brackets, and thus will win the board vote, at least initially. Recall that the only time Halo ever led Castlevania was in the opening moments; that's how much the board bracket votes in the early portions of the contest.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/14/2006 7:58:14 PM | message detail
Mega Man was adjusted, true. And Zero might have -- and actually, in all probability *did* -- scored a hint of rSFF on Mega Man. However, just because that MM is adjusted doesn't mean he's right. He could be too high...or, like I think, he's too LOW. MM looked *great* in all his other matches leading up to the Link one. Over 57% on Snake, an obliteration of Tidus that significantly underrates him compared to 2k4 (and it's either that or perhaps Kirby/Bowser overrating Tidus in 2k5, hmm?). I'm willing to bet 2k4 was MM's strongest year thanks to MMAC. We just never got to see it.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/14/2006 7:58:29 PM | message detail
Kairi gets the 24 hour vote here!

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dragoontheguy | Posted 9/14/2006 7:59:59 PM | message detail
I'd venture to guess that Kairi has the most brackets, and thus will win the board vote, at least initially. Recall that the only time Halo ever led Castlevania was in the opening moments; that's how much the board bracket votes in the early portions of the contest.

I still find it funny that the board ended up voting for halo, a series most people here absolutely despise over castlevania just for the sake of bracket voting.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/14/2006 8:00:02 PM | message detail
(and it's either that or perhaps Kirby/Bowser overrating Tidus in 2k5, hmm?).

More like Bowser/Snake.

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Master Moltar | Posted 9/14/2006 8:00:17 PM | message detail
Kairi might win the board vote, but if Claire can't make gains overnight, then color me unimpressed.

Once the day hits (and especially after-school), the KH vote train is coming. Claire may be able to hold on to the evening/night vote depending on where she's at.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/14/2006 8:00:37 PM | message detail
I was talking about the characters, not the match.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/14/2006 8:01:31 PM | message detail
I was talking about how cute you are.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/14/2006 8:02:40 PM | message detail
Aw, EC. That makes me feel so...asleep.
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/14/2006 8:02:45 PM | message detail
Whoa, whoa, whoa... hold up! Unimpressed is a color, since when?

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longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/14/2006 8:03:12 PM | message detail
Claire is gonna have to haul some ass in the dead of both night votes in order to get a good lead goin if ya ask me.
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/14/2006 8:03:56 PM | message detail
Whoa, whoa, whoa... hold up! Unimpressed is a color, since when?

Ask Crayola.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/14/2006 8:04:25 PM | message detail
Somebody should PhotoShop an unimpressed-colored crayon.

I would write on myself every day if I had one.....
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/14/2006 8:06:15 PM | message detail
Does anybody think we won't see both characters with the lead at some point? We'll say starting at the first five-minute update.....
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Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest.
It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/14/2006 8:10:59 PM | message detail
Kairi WILL be leading when the match first kicks off, and then it's off to the races for Claire.

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trannyscience | Posted 9/14/2006 8:11:23 PM | message detail
I personally think that while this match is debatable, it won't be close. one side will beat the other down and it'll be anticlimactic.
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Haste_2 | Posted 9/14/2006 8:12:56 PM | message detail
The first few minutes are gonna be painful for me... seeing if Claire will be able to negate the early board vote...

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therealmnm | Posted 9/14/2006 8:13:01 PM | message detail
I cannot see Kairi "beating down" Claire Redfield. I'm sorry. Kairi having strength will be signs that I need to spend less time on this site!
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trannyscience | Posted 9/14/2006 8:13:49 PM | message detail
well by "beat down", I'm talking Ulti-style blowout. which would be anticlimactic for people expecting a neck-and-neck match.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/14/2006 8:13:58 PM | message detail
Kairi couldn't beat down Tingle.

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Axem Turtle | Posted 9/14/2006 8:14:43 PM | message detail
My analysis for tomorrow's match is complete.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383

I took Kairi with the same percentage Mega Man got on Mario Kart, just to be cute =P

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dragoontheguy | Posted 9/14/2006 8:15:09 PM | message detail
Claire couldn't beat down frog... that's right I totally went there. What now EC, what now?
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When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory!
FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/14/2006 8:15:58 PM | message detail
Well considering that Frog would wipe the floor with Kairi, not much!

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dragoontheguy | Posted 9/14/2006 8:16:50 PM | message detail
Whoah there, we are talking about the same frog that couldn't break 55% on liquid snake, right? >_>
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When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory!
Haste_2 | Posted 9/14/2006 8:17:07 PM | message detail
You know, for a match that's supposed to be a toss-up, I've never seen so many people think that the match won't be close with BOTH sides... find me a comparable example if I'm wrong.

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greatone10 | Posted 9/14/2006 8:17:23 PM | message detail
This match is SO much more Ridley vs. Diablo than Mega Man vs. Mario Kart.

Hell, it's the exact same seeding upset!
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Z1mZum made me look like Shadow Hearts in the Guru contest.
FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/14/2006 8:17:38 PM | message detail
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