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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 359
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/14/2006 4:17:42 PM | message detail |
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I do think that, even if Kairi wins tomorrow, most of us can agree that
Claire's potential for blowing out Kairi is bigger than Kairi's chance
of blowing Claire out. I cannot see Kairi win big, though her winning
isn't out of the question...while not only do I think Calire will win,
but she has potential to win big if 2k2 still means anything. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/14/2006 4:19:01 PM | message detail |
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In my opinion, a major factor in close matches is who you think could
win more easily. Despite the fact that most on the board seem to think
Kairi will win, you can't make an argument she'll win easily (other
than KHII rocks your socks!). Claire can win easily. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/14/2006 4:24:26 PM | message detail |
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Yay predictible board actions! You forgot to add the people who are on the fence or are uncertain about their selections then, if they get it right, proclaiming that it was obvious from the very beginning. Certain people are notorious for that... --- Vote for Carmen Sandiego in SC2k6 Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/14/2006 4:30:14 PM | message detail |
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Potential suicides, too! --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/14/2006 5:18:20 PM | message detail |
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The tripling has been achieved again. Ouch. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Lopen | Posted 9/14/2006 5:27:23 PM | message detail |
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Just keep it above 74.69%, Rikku! This match kinda disturbs me though... I don't think Lenneth would beat Jade very easily... but I do think Rikku would beat Ada pretty easily. Eh, whatever... I chalk it up to fodder inconsistencies. --- Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather." - Slow Beef |
| AmazingKirby | Posted 9/14/2006 5:28:32 PM | message detail |
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I don't think Jade would come close to beating Lenneth. --- caps |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/14/2006 5:29:32 PM | message detail |
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I can personally see both Rikku/Ada and Lenneth/Jade being 60/40... --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/14/2006 5:31:06 PM | message detail |
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I'd take Lenneth over Jade and not think twice about it. Where she ends
up in the stats based on this makes sense to me. She's weaker than
everyone but the bottom two last year. Jade is from an even more
obscure game than Lenneth is, who at least has the advantage of being
from an RPG and have the game named for her. Plus, Lenneth kinda looks like Chun-Li in that match picture. Confusion votes! --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Lopen | Posted 9/14/2006 5:31:07 PM | message detail |
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Well, I guess I could see that... but I'd only figure Lenneth/Jade to be 60-40 by the Vyse/Laharl effect. --- Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather." - Slow Beef |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 9/14/2006 5:33:20 PM | message detail |
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Despite the fact that most on the board seem to think Kairi will
win, you can't make an argument she'll win easily (other than KHII
rocks your socks!). You can make an argument for anything. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| KingBartz | Posted 9/14/2006 5:34:56 PM | message detail |
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Argh before I went to sleep, Lenneth was gaining %s... Now I just woke up... damn kids. --- This life lesson was brought to you by the one and only KingBartz. SC2K6: 2/2 Today's pick: Rikku |
| KingBartz | Posted 9/14/2006 5:35:25 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and the new pic... My bracket is so screwed. --- This life lesson was brought to you by the one and only KingBartz. SC2K6: 2/2 Today's pick: Rikku |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/14/2006 5:37:41 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, Rikku > Ada and thus Lenneth > Jade. Not too worried about either result. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Lopen | Posted 9/14/2006 5:40:04 PM | message detail |
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It's more the case that I didn't expect Ada to be so close to Rikku.
I'd expect Ada to lose 65-35 to Rikku myself. But eh, whatever... I
really just wanted to say something that wasn't Analysis Crew related.
Fill out my post a bit! --- Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather." - Slow Beef |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/14/2006 5:57:08 PM | message detail |
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It's more the case that I didn't expect Ada to be so close to Rikku.
I'd expect Ada to lose 65-35 to Rikku myself. But eh, whatever... I
really just wanted to say something that wasn't Analysis Crew related.
Fill out my post a bit! Conker would get 35% on Rikku, assuming that Bowser didn't overperform on Snake. Would you really take Conker over Ada? --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/14/2006 5:59:23 PM | message detail |
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C'mon, Lenneth, get back over 25%! Moral victory and all that. --- It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti! ~ Lenneth Valkyrie |
| Lopen | Posted 9/14/2006 6:01:06 PM | message detail |
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Pssh. I doubt Conker would get 35% on Rikku... regardless of what the
X-Stats give him. But I don't doubt other characters in his range could
give Ada a fight. All I know is: Wesker got 30% on Kefka Rikku > Kefka Ada > Wesker by what I think would be around the same amount. --- Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather." - Slow Beef |
| Axem Turtle | Posted 9/14/2006 6:06:35 PM | message detail |
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My reasoning for Zero's fourpack is pretty sound IMO. Kirby is expected to get 55% on Luigi, Zero is expected to get 51%. I think it's pretty obvious that Zero was SFFd to some degree against Mario, so I'd put him at about 55% on Luigi. I also think it's obvious that something fishy happened with Kirby/Bowser, perhaps making him a little overrated giving Zero the win. TuRtLe ~~~ Turtle on his laptop |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/14/2006 6:09:01 PM | message detail |
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If Zero is still near-elite, he wins the fourpack easily. --- Character Battle V Score - 3/3 points Current Prediction - Kairi vs. Claire Redfield |
| Axem Turtle | Posted 9/14/2006 6:10:03 PM | message detail |
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Not to mention comparing Zero's value against Sonic to Luigi's value on
Tifa and Tifa's value on Sonic seems to jive with my thoughts. TuRtLe ~~~ Turtle on his laptop |
| Axem Turtle | Posted 9/14/2006 6:10:52 PM | message detail |
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If Zero loses to Luigi I'll be shocked. If Zero loses to Kirby, I'll be slightly surprised. TuRtLe ~~~ Turtle on his laptop |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/14/2006 6:12:52 PM | message detail |
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Kirby > Luigi > Zero, bay-bee. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/14/2006 6:13:17 PM | message detail |
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I'd rather use Zero's performance against Ryu Hayabusa, personally. --- Rikku vs. Lenneth / Bracket: Rikku / Vote: Lenneth (2/2) Tomorrow / Bracket: Claire / Vote: Claire |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/14/2006 6:14:23 PM | message detail |
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Zero got that percentage on Sonic in his weakest year, too. I have Zero
winning that fourpack, but that percentage against Sonic isn't worth
considering. --- ...a lone figure shining in the toxic shadows. She comes dressed for war, and her wrath is terrible. |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/14/2006 6:16:20 PM | message detail |
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If Zero reaches Sonic, he won't get more than 45% there. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/14/2006 6:20:32 PM | message detail |
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Match IV: (2) Kairi vs. (7) Claire Redfield Contest History Kairi No Previous Contest Matches Claire Redfield Summer 2002 Lost to Tidus, 44.54% - 55.46% Ranked: 13th Analysis: This is one of the most debatable matches of the round and the only one in this division. On one side we have Kairi a character from the Kingdom Hearts series who is trying to follow in the footsteps of Sora and Riku. On the other side we have Claire from the Resident Evil series who made an appearance and did well against Tidus, but that was back in the first contest. When asked where would you place Kairi in the KH pecking order most people said somewhere between Riku and Ansem with few saying below Ansem Claire on the other hand can be anywhere on the map. One of the biggest reasons why people took Claire was because of her performance in 2k2, they know that she is weaker today, but if she never appeared before I don’t think this match would be as debated as it is now. So where does she stand now? Over the many contests we’ve had five more characters from Resident Evil. In the villains contest we saw Wesker and Nemesis. Wesker is a weakling while Nemesis did better than what we expected, but I think Claire would be stronger than him since she was from a more popular Resident Evil (and Code Veronica) though Nemesis does have the whole my name is in the title thing. From this contest we have Ada Wong. She did do very well against Jade, but we don’t know how weak Jade is. For all we know she could have the same strength as Tanner. Leon did co-star with her in Resident Evil 2 and before RE4 that would be who I think she would be closest to, but Leon’s first contest was after the release of Resident Evil 4 and he is easily stronger than she is. The closest RE character Claire is to Jill. If you were to adjusted the WDF she would appear right under her likewise if you put what she got against Tidus 2k5 and drop her by as much as Jill fell from 2k2-2k4. If anyone is wondering I have Claire getting about 47.70% against 2k4 Jill. Another one of the biggest factors of this match is Kingdom Hearts 2. Before KH2 Claire would probably be the favorite going into the match and if Kairi were to win tomorrow it would be for that reason. From what I could get in Kingdom Hearts 2 Kairi’s appearance has changed and depending on who you ask her personality has become better or worse. I don’t think the characters from Kingdom Hearts will boost leaps and bounds, but the characters will be getting some kind of a boost. If Claire is to win tomorrow she better take a lead in the night when Resident Evil is at its strongest because Kingdom Hearts is one of the stronger day vote getters. I’ve been taking Claire since day 1, but this match could easily end up going the other way. charmander6000’s Bracket: Claire Redfield over Kairi charmander6000’s Prediction: Claire wins, 52.35% - 47.65% --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/14/2006 6:29:37 PM | message detail |
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Here's some Kirby vs. Zero analysis, noting advantages for both sides: Well, Sonic was about the same in 2K3 and 2K4, and Zero did 3% than Ryu against Sonic. If you think Sonic was stronger in 2K4, then you could maybe say 2% better, hrhr. However, Kirby did 7% better than Ryu against Bowser in the same year. Even with a Ryu drop, that seems too like large of a difference. It all comes down to Kirby/Bowser rSFF, and I'll...not bank on that. Kirby fell inbetween Yoshi and Bowser just as he was supposed to. Kirby got 45% on Squall on 2K4, 5% better than Luigi managed, and that's pre-Nintendo boost. Also, Kirby outscored Ganondorf by 7% against a common opponent, even if they were two years apart. Then, there's the fact that Kirby has seemingly been increasing every year...will he continue? Probably not. Of course, if Zero's still on par with 2K3/2K4, he'll make a close match with the non-overrated Kirby, and would somewhat easy victory otherwise. Zero certainly did have the advantage of doing better on Mega Man than Snake, and Snake > Bowser > Kirby. Of course, you could counterargue that a bit, as well. Then there's the fact that Mega Man didn't drop, and Zero/Mario SFF makes sense, so why would Zero fall? I'm sure there's many, many more ways you can analyze this by using past matches/comparisons... --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Axem Turtle | Posted 9/14/2006 6:34:05 PM | message detail |
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I say the simplest comparison is likely the best comparison. Once you
start going through multiple characters across different years, you
already start to lose credibility in the argument. Granted, my approach does the same thing, and throws in a bit of guesswork, but it's what my gut said, so I'm sticking with it. TuRtLe ~~~ Turtle on his laptop |
| shadow8021 | Posted 9/14/2006 6:36:50 PM | message detail |
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People are forgetting how much that the Kirby series BOMBED against the Metroid series. --- Character Battle Score: 2/2 Today's Pick: Rikku |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/14/2006 6:38:04 PM | message detail |
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Kirby as a character is a whole new thing. --- Rikku vs. Lenneth / Bracket: Rikku / Vote: Lenneth (2/2) Tomorrow / Bracket: Claire / Vote: Claire |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/14/2006 6:40:11 PM | message detail |
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Same for Zero/Mega Man X differentials --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/14/2006 6:50:33 PM | message detail |
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In my opinion, a major factor in close matches is who you think
could win more easily. Despite the fact that most on the board seem to
think Kairi will win, you can't make an argument she'll win easily
(other than KHII rocks your socks!). Claire can win easily. Exactly how I feel, when I'm undecided on matches, I think to myself "Who could blow the other one out more?" and that's who I usually side with, this contest I went against that for Luigi/Zero, and took Luigi, despite thinking Zero could win bigger than Luigi ever could, which was pure bias, and looking back on it I think Zero will win, not like it matters. lol ganon --- Explicit Content Philadelphia's Path to Cheer Up Emo Kids (1-0) - Next week vs. New York Giants. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/14/2006 6:53:57 PM | message detail |
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Oh and Kirby is totally owning whatever lamer walks out of Luigi/Zero. --- Explicit Content Philadelphia's Path to Cheer Up Emo Kids (1-0) - Next week vs. New York Giants. |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/14/2006 6:55:14 PM | message detail |
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I love all four of those characters in that fourpack, but we all know Zero would slice n dice all of em. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/14/2006 6:56:07 PM | message detail |
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So, how did Kirby become a top-tier character all of a sudden? I'm not buying it. Zero will beat Kirby without much trouble. --- Remember, remember. The 7th of October - the day Ganondorf was beat. By the Valentine, who N fans despise - another win, another great feat. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/14/2006 6:56:19 PM | message detail |
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EC, you *are* aware you're just going fall into another HM blunder like this next year, right? --- Commit it to memory. |
| Axem Turtle | Posted 9/14/2006 6:59:14 PM | message detail |
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From Dilated Chemist Posted 9/14/2006 9:56:07 PM So, how did Kirby become a top-tier character all of a sudden? I'm not buying it. Zero will beat Kirby without much trouble. Kirby impressed against Bowser and Zero disappointed against Mario. Although both results I question. It seems to be typical underrating underperformers and overrating overperformers. Granted, seems to me that the match could go either way. TuRtLe ~~~ Turtle on his laptop |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/14/2006 6:59:43 PM | message detail |
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Well, considering that Kirby got 45% on Squall 2 years ago, it isn't crazy to think he's around near-elite level. --- Rikku vs. Lenneth / Bracket: Rikku / Vote: Lenneth (2/2) Tomorrow / Bracket: Claire / Vote: Claire |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/14/2006 7:01:30 PM | message detail |
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I think Kirby rSFF'd Bowser a little bit, but I don't buy Zero being SFF'd by Mario...and I'm taking Kirby to win the four-pack --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/14/2006 7:01:43 PM | message detail |
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EC, you *are* aware you're just going fall into another HM blunder like this next year, right? Yep, or he falls for one of mine, either way really! --- Explicit Content Philadelphia's Path to Cheer Up Emo Kids (1-0) - Next week vs. New York Giants. |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/14/2006 7:01:55 PM | message detail |
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I'd love to see what the board would come up with if Zero outperforms Bowser when he defeats Kirby. OMG Zre0 > Bowzzer! --- Remember, remember. The 7th of October - the day Ganondorf was beat. By the Valentine, who N fans despise - another win, another great feat. |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/14/2006 7:03:16 PM | message detail |
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I still don't see what's so hard to fathom about Mario SFF'ing Zero... --- Vote for Carmen Sandiego in SC2k6 Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/14/2006 7:03:23 PM | message detail |
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Kirby didn't rSFF Bowser, in fact I have no idea why people would think
that, in Mario/Samus there's a VERY good reason for that happening, and
hell it seems that nowadays people want to believe more in Bowser/Kirby
rSFF than Mario/Samus rSFF, which is just ludicrous to me. Bowser and
thusly Kirby are overrated thanks to sprite Snake, which has proved to
be a complete **** up to the stats for a long time. --- Explicit Content Philadelphia's Path to Cheer Up Emo Kids (1-0) - Next week vs. New York Giants. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/14/2006 7:04:06 PM | message detail |
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All of one year, even! --- Commit it to memory. |
| Axem Turtle | Posted 9/14/2006 7:07:04 PM | message detail |
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From HaRRicH Posted 9/14/2006 10:01:30 PM I think Kirby rSFF'd Bowser a little bit, but I don't buy Zero being SFF'd by Mario...and I'm taking Kirby to win the four-pack So... Link can SFF Mega Man, but Mario can't? That doesn't make much sense to me... TuRtLe ~~~ Turtle on his laptop |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/14/2006 7:08:30 PM | message detail |
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It's not impossible to fathom, no -- I'm not deeming it unable to
happen. Zero was underperforming against Hayabusa and Lloyd (based off
of Wesker) already though, and so once we knew how strong Mario was,
Zero's loss to him is much less surprising to me. Possible, but I didn't give it any credit in my pick. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Axem Turtle | Posted 9/14/2006 7:09:16 PM | message detail |
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From FlamboyantSpy Posted 9/14/2006 10:03:23 PM Kirby didn't rSFF Bowser, in fact I have no idea why people would think that, in Mario/Samus there's a VERY good reason for that happening, and hell it seems that nowadays people want to believe more in Bowser/Kirby rSFF than Mario/Samus rSFF, which is just ludicrous to me. Bowser and thusly Kirby are overrated thanks to sprite Snake, which has proved to be a complete **** up to the stats for a long time. I never said rSFF, though it's a possibility. I was thinking along the same lines as you, with Bowser coincidentally overperforming on both Sephiroth in the VC and Snake in CB4. There's just something really fishy about those matches. TuRtLe ~~~ Turtle on his laptop |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/14/2006 7:09:20 PM | message detail |
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Though Mario/Zero SFF makes a little sense, I still wonder why Mega Man can't and Mario can. --- Rikku vs. Lenneth / Bracket: Rikku / Vote: Lenneth (2/2) Tomorrow / Bracket: Claire / Vote: Claire |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/14/2006 7:09:52 PM | message detail |
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So... Link can SFF Mega Man, but Mario can't? If Link even did SFF MM is what minimal at best, and Link is a muuuuuuuuch different entity than Mario. --- Explicit Content Philadelphia's Path to Cheer Up Emo Kids (1-0) - Next week vs. New York Giants. |