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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 359

Karma Hunter | Posted 9/14/2006 9:38:57 PM | message detail
He wants to say 43%, but, uh...isn't. Or something.

And you'll always get characters that every person or so 'cares' about. Like Pac-Man. Remember how supposedly 'hardcore' Pac fanboys there were on Pac/Ocelot?

Didn't mean that anyone cared about him, and it proved it in the next round.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/14/2006 9:39:14 PM | message detail
Too bad for you.
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 9/14/2006 9:39:40 PM | message detail
Wow I thought Claire would edge Kairi. This is what I get for not playing KH.
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/14/2006 9:40:47 PM | message detail
Nooooo. You made the right choice in not playing KH. The game is terrible, and the point you lost completely justifies not having to play that junk.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 9/14/2006 9:41:04 PM | message detail
can a few people just throw some quick suggestions on what Tifa will get on Ivy? I need a quick spread.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/14/2006 9:41:14 PM | message detail
Reality called, said you were wrong on all counts but the last. Then you bracket called and said wants to reak up with you because you don't care for it enough and you don't take good care of it.

Maybe you missed the point. I just said that I believed that Claire over Kairi was a logical choice and was one of the better upsets to take, but it just didn't pan out that way. Why should I regret every wrong bracket choice I made just because they were wrong?

Oh and by the way, it's just one point. My bracket is still very well in the running, thank you very much.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 9/14/2006 9:42:02 PM | message detail
can a few people just throw some quick suggestions on what Tifa will get on Ivy? I need a quick spread.

Maybe 80% or a bit higher? I don't think it should be lower then 75% at any rate.
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Janus5000 | Posted 9/14/2006 9:42:02 PM | message detail
Ivy edges out Tifa in a squeaker.

...Or Tifa gets about 75%.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/14/2006 9:42:06 PM | message detail
Poor Claire. She's doing such a good job of stalling and making my Oracle look like crap.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/14/2006 9:42:09 PM | message detail
"Maybe you missed the point. I just said that I believed that Claire over Kairi was a logical choice"

Right. And my point was that it wasn't logical. Ever.

I didn't miss a thing.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/14/2006 9:42:41 PM | message detail
I like 81-19 for Tifa/Ivy. Make people work for it. <_<
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/14/2006 9:43:17 PM | message detail
"Oh and by the way, it's just one point. My bracket is still very well in the running, thank you very much."

I never said you were out! I tried, and clearly failed, to make a joke about your bracket being upset that you don't care about hurting it. You know, haha, funny. Laugh for godssake.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 9/14/2006 9:43:56 PM | message detail
Ok, thanks a bunch.
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 9/14/2006 9:44:13 PM | message detail
Ivy 99.99% - Tifa 0.01%.

If only. ;_;
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/14/2006 9:44:20 PM | message detail
How is picking a character that's likely going to end up decently close to the other character when all is said and done an impossible or irrational pick? Just going from this I think it's safe to say that Claire would have beaten Kairi last year, if anything.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/14/2006 9:44:39 PM | message detail
80/20 is a fairly reasonable split. Ivy seems to me to be one of those characters that could actually lose to Vyse. Possibly wouldn't, but easily could.
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Who Cares? | Posted 9/14/2006 9:44:51 PM | message detail
can a few people just throw some quick suggestions on what Tifa will get on Ivy? I need a quick spread.

X-stats have Jin Kazama scoring 27% on Tifa. So it depends whether or not you think Ivy could beat him.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/14/2006 9:47:23 PM | message detail
This is a 52-47 match here. Thinking Claire would upset by ANY means is certainly logical.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/14/2006 9:47:42 PM | message detail
It's been 45 minutes and Claire's not cut into the lead once yet. Unless the day-vote goes the complete opposite of what we expect or if Claire makes a killing later in the night (both unlikely), Kairi's got it.

Damn. Them's the breaks.
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Yesmar | Posted 9/14/2006 9:47:50 PM | message detail
Right. And my point was that it wasn't logical. Ever.

I didn't miss a thing.



Considering the fact it appears as if this match will end somewhat close, how can picking the loser be illogical?

How is thinking, "Hmm, Claire's probably less popular than Jill and Kairi's more popular than Ansem. That will probably put them around the same popularity. I'll just go with my gut and pick Claire" illogical in some way.

I bet it's real easy to sit up on your high horse after you get a match right and call other people illogical.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/14/2006 9:48:12 PM | message detail
Right, and if soemone made that pick last year I'd hear them out. Post-KH2, no friggin' way. The only logic to work off involved assuming Claire's 2k2 value was even remotely close to real (it's not) or that Kairi is as weak as pre-KH2 Ansem (which she's not). There was NOTHING else to base it on that hols any weight at all, and both of those pieces of logic are flawed to begin with.

Oh, and Claire is just going to fall away all day long and up getting 55/45'd. That's not all that close, and it really does make picking Claire unreasonable.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/14/2006 9:48:59 PM | message detail
Also, while I still think Claire > Kairi was fairly reasonable, don't kid yourself into thinking this will say "52-47" (ha! =P). The day-vote will change this match a lot.
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 9/14/2006 9:49:04 PM | message detail
Nooooo. You made the right choice in not playing KH. The game is terrible, and the point you lost completely justifies not having to play that junk.

Damn right!
Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 9/14/2006 9:49:10 PM | message detail
Yes, I meant 43%. Not sure why I said 57....

So, how does this match look for Jill/Peach?

I'd take Peach over Kairi in a heartbeat, and Jill over Claire just as easily. Thoughts?

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/14/2006 9:49:25 PM | message detail
"Damn. Them's the breaks."

You've got another 65 matches to make it up on, though. One pointers don't mean a damn in this contest, unlike the most recent.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/14/2006 9:50:32 PM | message detail
"Not sure why I said 57...."

'Cause ya prolly meant to say "Keep Rikku at 57%"
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/14/2006 9:50:39 PM | message detail
This match, like I said, basically spells my perceptions for Jill/Peach. Peach will probably take it in a ho-hum, 55-45 affair. Good for my bracket, at least.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/14/2006 9:50:49 PM | message detail
I don't see how it's illogical to assume that Claire is about as strong as Jill (maybe slightly weaker). Taking someone who very well could be as strong as Jill Valentine over Kairi seems pretty logical to me.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 9/14/2006 9:51:14 PM | message detail
I bet it's real easy to sit up on your high horse after you get a match right and call other people illogical.

Right, because if Claire was winning, we definitely wouldn't be hearing "Man, how could you take KAIRI! She's freaking bottom of the barrel FODDER!"

Don't be a sore loser because you bet on the wrong horse.

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/14/2006 9:51:59 PM | message detail
*nods*

There's another match I'd hate to have the RE character in. I was shocked when I heard people saying they had all three RE girls making round 2. Swore to god I was in Bizzarro world that day.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/14/2006 9:52:37 PM | message detail
Make no mistake, Jill would beat Kairi. Unlike Claire, Jill was and still is the unofficial face of Resident Evil. There's a reason that up until RE4, she was the only character graced with her own (mostly) stand-alone game. She's hotter, more assertive, and people connect to her more. It's not by leaps and bounds, but Jill would still take this without much of a problem.

Which means, guess what? Kairi is still likely fodder.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/14/2006 9:52:44 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, I know I'm still in contention...it's just nice to have every point you can, obviously, heh.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 9/14/2006 9:53:16 PM | message detail
Maybe I'm missing something, but when I think Resident Evil, I think Jill Valentine. I didn't know who Claire was until this contest, having only played half of RE3 and watched some of 1. Jill always seemed like the series rep to me.

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greatone10 | Posted 9/14/2006 9:53:39 PM | message detail
Don't be a sore loser because you bet on the wrong horse.

Just because we might be doing the same thing to the Kairi supporters doesn't make the people doing it right now any less of an ***-****.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 9/14/2006 9:53:45 PM | message detail
No, but there's a semblance of a valid point there. Moltar and others were saying it before; there's inevitable whining with any result, and then I extended that to the stats topic, too. More often than not, both sides present valid arguments, but one side wins, and in a match as close as this, which it is, I don't think any side is clearly, incontrovertibly more right than the other.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 9/14/2006 9:53:52 PM | message detail
And KH beats me to the punch >_<

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/14/2006 9:54:12 PM | message detail
Uh... 2 of the 3 RE girls had a bye into round 2, Chich.

Oh and you were on a roll until this: Oh, and Claire is just going to fall away all day long and up getting 55/45'd.

I think Kairi's ceiling is ~53%. 55% means that Kairi has to catch some of Sora's fire, if you know what I mean <_<

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/14/2006 9:54:46 PM | message detail
"I don't see how it's illogical to assume that Claire is about as strong as Jill "

There was no hoopla about the rerelease of RE2 like there was for REmake. therefore, in essence, it's been longer since Claire was in a "new" game than it's been for Jill.

"taking someone who very well could be as strong as Jill Valentine over Kairi seems pretty logical to me."

Jill, statistically, would struggle with pre-KH2 Ansem. I think your idea of logic is defined in the English language by some other word, yo.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/14/2006 9:55:16 PM | message detail
Aw, geez, we're going to argue over this match all day now?

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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 9/14/2006 9:55:20 PM | message detail
Sora has herpes?

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/14/2006 9:55:58 PM | message detail
"Make no mistake, Jill would beat Kairi."

I'd bet my sig against you on that, if not for the potential SFF Kairi is facing.
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Lopen | Posted 9/14/2006 9:56:13 PM | message detail
and in a match as close as this, which it is, I don't think any side is clearly, incontrovertibly more right than the other.

Thank you. I reserve my "fools, how could you be so wrong?"s (if I were to lower myself to such foolery, that is!) for matches that are at least decided by 10% or more. 52.xx% is hardly an "illogical pick" for either side.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 9/14/2006 9:56:27 PM | message detail
I'd hope notHM. We still have a very good celes/the boss match coming up soon.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/14/2006 9:56:42 PM | message detail
I think we should all just agree that I'm the most professional son of a gun here. When you read my posts, imagine they were written by a guy wearing a nice suit.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/14/2006 9:57:44 PM | message detail
"Uh... 2 of the 3 RE girls had a bye into round 2, Chich."

Yeah, but Claire never had a shot tonight. :)
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/14/2006 9:58:08 PM | message detail
From YoAriel33 Posted 9/15/2006 12:56:42 AM #494
I think we should all just agree that I'm the most professional son of a gun here. When you read my posts, imagine they were written by a guy wearing a nice suit.

I picture an Indian realtor when I think of you.

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Janus5000 | Posted 9/14/2006 9:58:14 PM | message detail
What's to say the day vote doesn't turn this into a 55/45 affair?
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/14/2006 9:58:28 PM | message detail
It's not even necessarily the match; it's about how good of a pick Claire was...that's so pointless. It's over, done. We move on -- all aboard the Tifa/Ivy Hype Train! >>

I think we should all just agree that I'm the most professional son of a gun here. When you read my posts, imagine they were written by a guy wearing a nice suit.

I imagine a guy desiring to be a merman.

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Big Bob | Posted 9/14/2006 9:58:37 PM | message detail
Kairi > Claire

I CALLED IT! *balloons rain down*
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/14/2006 9:58:39 PM | message detail
Wolf And Raven

Grant me a wish, my master
Take heed of me
I have been loyal servant
Heartfelt, humble

Gave up - what belongs to me
Gave up my greed
My self-examination
Made me see, to be me

I am now like Judas, done
Ashamed of what I've become
Fear for life I wear as a ring
To bask in your favor, I will kill the king

You say I am invencible
I cannot die,
I know, but anyway
The words, they maim me

Grant me a wish, my master
Compassion, please
I'd like be a human
...maybe one day

I am now like Judas, done
Ashamed of what I've become
Fear of life I wear as a ring
To bask in your favor, I will kill the king

[Entreaty:] let me go
Master, I hate you so
How can I sleep my nights
When my whole being cries

I tried to be like everyone
Open my soul
But what I had to give
Resulted loathing

Enchanted by the power
Licked by the grace
One beautiful black flower
The end of the human race

I will
with pride now face my faith
King and Queen now lie in state
This fear of life I wear as a ring
I bask in your favor, I have killed the king

[Entreaty:] let me go
Master, I hate you so
How can I sleep my nights
When my whole being cries

I had a nightmare
The Wolf eating The Raven

Entrails of life on my plate
And I ate 'em..

Interested in what I see
Try that Rorcharch test on me
Have you seen the beauty of the
Enticing beast

2x [Entreaty:] let me go
Master, I hate you so
I cannot sleep my nights
When my whole being cries

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